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Czech Republic Sets Up Counter-Terrorism Unit To Counter Fake News Threat (cnn.com)

According to CNN, the Czech Republic is setting up a new counter-terrorism unit to combat the rise of fake news or "foreign disinformation campaigns." The counter-terrorism unit is called "The Center Against Terrorism and Hybrid Threats," and is due to start operating on Sunday, according to an interior ministry statement. CNN reports: The new center is intended to monitor internal security threats, including attacks on soft targets and extremism, as well as "disinformation campaigns related to internal security." Its establishment follows the publication in September of a Czech intelligence service report that identified Russian disinformation and cyber-espionage activities as a potential threat to the Czech Republic, European Union and NATO. The Czech Republic is due to hold a general election next year. According to the Czech Security Information Service (BIS) annual report, Russia in 2015 used "influence and information operations" to try to manipulate public opinion in the Czech Republic in relation to Syria and Ukraine. Russia is involved in conflicts in both these countries. Russia's hybrid warfare operations included "weakening the strength of Czech media" through "covert infiltration of Czech media and the Internet, massive production of Russian propaganda and disinformation controlled by the state," the report said. Other Russian operations included founding puppet organizations, the "covert and open support of populist or extremist subjects," and "disrupting the coherence and readiness of NATO and the EU," the report claimed. "The above-mentioned activities pose a threat to the Czech Republic, EU and NATO not only in relation to the Ukrainian and Syrian conflicts. "The infrastructure created for achieving these goals will not disappear with the end of the two conflicts. It can be used to destabilize or manipulate Czech society or political environment at any time, if Russia wishes to do so." According to the Czech interior ministry, its new unit won't be interrogating anyone, censoring online content or bringing legal proceedings, nor will it "have a button for 'switching off the internet.'" But it will monitor threats, inform the public about "serious cases of disinformation" and promote internal security expertise.

119 comments

  1. Not a Republic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    It's a pool, a czess pool

    1. Re:Not a Republic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a much nicer place than the USA.

  2. We can't have that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    We can't have citizens exposed to dangerous untruths. They might begin to form dangerous, unsanctioned beliefs.

    1. Re:We can't have that by hey! · · Score: 1

      As usual the idiots haven't even bothered to read the summary.

      According to the Czech interior ministry, its new unit won't be interrogating anyone, censoring online content or bringing legal proceedings, nor will it "have a button for 'switching off the internet.'" But it will monitor threats, inform the public about "serious cases of disinformation" and promote internal security expertise.

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    2. Re:We can't have that by knorthern+knight · · Score: 1

      > As usual the idiots haven't even bothered to read the summary.

      >> According to the Czech interior ministry, its new unit won't be interrogating anyone, censoring
      >> online content or bringing legal proceedings, nor will it "have a button for 'switching off the internet.'"

      yet... Wait till stage 2 or 3.

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  3. Have they verified the CNN report? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Has this Czech unit verified the CNN report linked to from the summary to ensure that it's not a case of fake news?

  4. Are the Russians gonna beat Hillary! there, too? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Geez, this "fake news" paranoia is off-the-rails crazy.

    Awwww, did ums poor widdle babies have your harpy lose last month?

  5. your fake news is my religion by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    my fake news is your job

  6. Re: Are the Russians gonna beat Hillary! there, to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They only know what their masters have told them their whole lives. Now they have finally caught their masters in a lie: that Clinton would win. They are going through the usual stages - denial, anger, etc. - give them time.

  7. Re:No One Cared When Clinton Used it Against Berni by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

    Your link is a plainly-labeled opinion piece, which itself points to other opinion pieces and claims they are fake news.

    Opinion pieces are not news, fake or otherwise. Try again.

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  8. I call B.S. by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

    While there was plenty of dirty pool to go around in the Democratic primary fake news was non existent. I was knee deep in politics and the 'Fake News' sited in that article didn't register with me. And I waited in line two hours to vote Bernie.

    Bernie also lost because we let a ruling elite decide our politicians (google the phrase "Sheldon Primary" sometime). That had more to do with it than just about anything. And don't forget, the Democrats have a lot of economic right wingers who are just social liberals. Bernie didn't fly well with them. Honestly I don't think Bernie would have won the primary for just that reason. Which makes all the Dirty Pool even stupider. It was completely unnecessary.

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    1. Re:I call B.S. by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      Bernie lost because he was simply not popular with the Democrat party. This is not especially surprising. Firstly he's nut exactly a Democrat, having run as independent an awful lot. I can see why the Democratic party faithful weren't that keen. Secondly, he's way to the left of what the US has ever elected as a president, for better or worse that kind of thing simply doesn't fly over there. And honestly, as an observer from afar, I had my reservations about him, he seems cut from the same cloth as Corbyn. And you can see how well that's working out here...

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  9. Propaganda by manu0601 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    [Russia tries] to manipulate public opinion in the Czech Republic in relation to Syria and Ukraine

    So basically the problem is that Russia is pushing its own war propaganda against government's own. Fake news is likely to be on both sides.

    1. Re:Propaganda by KiloByte · · Score: 5, Informative

      So basically the problem is that Russia is pushing its own war propaganda against government's own. Fake news is likely to be on both sides.

      You haven't seen the extent of Russian trolling. The so called "Olgino brigade" (well, they have multiple offices and the one at Olgino has long since moved) dominate any comment section on a story even remotely connected to Russia, Ukraine, US, Israel, Turkey, etc, on most prominent news sites. They up-mod each other, operating many many sockpuppets through proxies in the country. While they generally speak good Polish (or in this case, Czech), they are trivial to spot: for example, they love to call any opposition "fascist" -- that's a term which was massively used in Soviet propaganda but in Poland used exclusively for Mussolini's Italy even during the commie times -- where an American would say "nazi" we have "hitlerite", so use of "fascist" stands out. In the past they had to mention "Right Sector" in every sentence, nowadays they go for UPA or Bandera. Somehow they're also extremely anti-semitic (not sure what's the gain for Russia here).

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    2. Re:Propaganda by manu0601 · · Score: 1

      You haven't seen the extent of Russian trolling.

      Yes, I know they have troll factories to handle the load. But staring at the obvious foreign propaganda, make sure you are not blind to the more furtive propaganda from your own government.

    3. Re:Propaganda by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That doesn't make sense. Are the people responsible for these programs that stupid that they can't even make a distinction between Syria and Czech Republic? Misdirected propaganda can be as detrimental to war efforts as that of the opposing side, targeted correctly. And all these time some "intellectuals" in Russia and elsewhere think that the EU's main purpose is to counter Russia's influence. Russian paranoia smells the same like the American paranoia, pure dog shit.

    4. Re:Propaganda by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      So that means one should ignore fake news sponsored by a foreign adversarial state (which is what Russia acts like to former Soviet republics and Warsaw Pact nations) because there might be some internal bias to the local news?

    5. Re:Propaganda by rtb61 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      No the problem is not the Russians or aliens or even terrorists, everyone knows exactly who the problem is, the people and the cause is them talking to each other, rather than just being force fed the establishments propaganda. This is nothing more but the most corrupt and self serving deceit of the 1%, globally. They are going to go attack social media and their own populations use of it and stop those pesky sheep from talking together, otherwise they will realise they are not sheep and those running the country are not special, just greedy scammers, so more especially bad, than being specially good.

      All they will do is bankrupt social media web sites and people abandon them to get away from corrupt government and corporate propaganda. Right now main stream media is crashing much like their scam the US democrats and they still refuse to accept people are no longer accepting their bullshit propaganda and ooohh look, it is happening all over the world.

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    6. Re:Propaganda by Pinky's+Brain · · Score: 1

      Guess we're not important enough.

      A quick google for pre-2012 instances of faszystowski bandera belies your assertion BTW.

    7. Re:Propaganda by butzwonker · · Score: 1

      Finally someone who knows what he's talking about. Russian trolls are also very active on German forums. It has been nothing more than a nuisance at first (who takes comments 'I like Putin because he's a strong man and a good leader' seriously), but they've become more sophisticated and are trying to undermine our elections. The best way of countering them is to close their sockpuppet accounts and very actively destroy their botnets.

    8. Re:Propaganda by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are active all over Europe.
      There have been economic ties to Russia proven for the alt-right movements in every single European country.
      The agenda isn't that hidden either. Dismantle EU, leave NATO, everyone fend for themselves and when Russia went into Ukraine it was all about "Not our problem!"
      Russia can take on every country in Europe individually as long as things calm down between every bite they take.
      The Nationalist idea with closed borders and a strong belief in their own capability plays directly into the hands of Putin.

    9. Re:Propaganda by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Re:Propaganda (Score:?)
      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 29, 2016 @05:10AM
      I am one of those commenters. I have not seen a shred of evidence for "government trolls" which Mogherini of UE was panicking about.

      It is true that anti western comments dominate the sections of the stories on Syria etc, but this is due to the incredible, vicious, and racist anti Russian western propaganda in all western mainstream media, going on for several years now.

      So for propaganda look no further than CNN, NYT, the Guardian and other government BS spreading factories.

    10. Re:Propaganda by admin7087 · · Score: 2

      What a bullshit. The above post is a typical example of how Russian propaganda works. Spreading doubt by repeating blatant bullshit. The Czech government doesn't publish fake news or propaganda. Russians and manu0601 just don't get what propaganda is and that not the whole world thinks in the same twisted way as they do. Hint: Giving a press conference is not propaganda. (BTW, there is not much propaganda from the Russian government either except in the Ukraine conflict, when the Russian government simply 'lost it' - the downing of that airliner was really a big mishap and after the first misstep was taken, there was no turning back.)

      The state sponsored Russian trolls do not spread much fake news and their goals are not to inform anyone about anything. They are not an 'alternate source of information', as they would like to spin their purpose for obvious reasons. It's all about spreading disinformation and doubts to further some extremely imperialist, outdated and fairly fascist world view that Putin and his rich oligarch friends for some bizarre reason deem appropriate.

      The big question is why they keep cultivating this outdated world view. Putin and his oligarch friends are consistently leading their country backwards and want to spread their idiocy elsewhere when there is no reason for it. The Cold War is long over, they could have opened up their country easily. Russia could be a flourishing major world power and economy by now. Instead, Putin has turned it into a fucked up oligarchic shithole that attempts to annex other countries and propagates ridiculous outdated views about 'masculinity' and 'nationalism' to the outside world that make no sense in the 21st Century. Meanwhile, everyone with a brain moves away from Russia (even the oligarchs!) or drinks himself to death. It's really quite mysterious why Putin keeps ruining his country even though he could easily change it for the better. Maybe this has something to do with his past and/or lack of sound advisors. Anyway, Russia is a really weird anachronism. The problem is that Putin may be the last one who could fix it, his successor might be like a transition from Lenin to Stalin...

    11. Re:Propaganda by guestapoo · · Score: 1

      Fake news is likely to be on both sides.

      That is, things are always NOT simple as black and white, as MSM, and some people here try to paint.
      Recently, the Poles nationalists shouted slogans against Ukrainians, and a day later Poland quickly blamed Russia for this.
      So, Yushchenko pro-Western president in 2004, granted Bandera "Hero of Ukraine", and Poroshenko pro-Western president in 2016, renamed "Moscow Avenue" to "Bandera Avenue", which more or less have raised the long, hidden conflicts between Ukraine-Poland are also Russian hybridwar?

      Note: for another perspective, the difference between Time magazine 2016 and 1996?
      1996: Yanks to the rescue. The secret story of how American advisers helped Yeltsin win

      For four months, a group of American political consultants clandestinely participated in guiding Yeltsin's campaign. Here is the inside story of how these advisers helped Yeltsin achieve the victory that will keep reform in Russia alive.

      2016: Russia Wants to Undermine Faith in the US Election Don't Fall for It

    12. Re:Propaganda by mobby_6kl · · Score: 1

      Of course, everyone is shitty to some degree. But this is exactly what the Russian trolls are using to muddy the waters. Oh so somebody in Ukraine renamed a street? Well RUSSIA INVADED AND OCCUPIED part of the country and is responsible for THOUSANDS DEAD AND MILLIONS DISPLACED. So we're totally even right?

      Like, it's not nearly remotely the same. But they'll stick in every discussion about Ukraine/Georgia/Syria and try to confuse the situation. It works so well that in real-life discussions people will claim that Ukraine is governed by literal Nazis, when the closet thing to them, the Right Sector, have exactly one seat in the parliament. Russia's LDPR, headed by this nutjob has 39 seats in Duma, for reference.

      Hey, by the way, did you know the Czechs sterilized Roma women without consent?!?

    13. Re:Propaganda by guestapoo · · Score: 1

      Hmm, some thing not right here in your comment. Did you reply me?
      I sought an example of "blaming Russians", and "don't believe in Russian fakes/propaganda" anytime when someone did something wrong! Here is, Polish nationalist shouted "Kill all Ukrainians", "Death to Ukrainians", etc.
      It's an example of "Fake news is likely to be on the both side" as the OP.
      Oh, if you know history, you must know that Bandera's UPA massacred Polish in WWII, so my comment is reasonable here. It explained the action of Polish nationalists.
      I don't care about Czech did what to Roman women here, are you trolling?

      PS: I don't know why you mentioned Right Sector and LDPR, but by the way, Right Sector is a bandit rather than party. Also, look at another far right "MPs" do their job (this case Svoboda):
      Violent video: Ukraine TV boss beaten up, forced to resign by far-right Svoboda MPs
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
      In this video, the man who beat the TV boss was ironically, the deputy head of Ukraine’s committee on freedom of speech. And, how dare such a small "party" could do this? The general prosecutor at this time was also Svoboda member.
      Meanwhile, Vladimir Zhirinovsky is Russian version of Trump.
      Comparing either Right Sector or Svoboda to LDPR is nonsense!

    14. Re:Propaganda by guestapoo · · Score: 1

      The Czech government doesn't publish fake news or propaganda

      Refugee crisis: Czechs blame Russia, Hungary blames Soros

      Czech Defense Minister Martin Stropnický says refugees are being transported through the West Balkan corridor to Western Europe with buses paid for by the Russian government. Stropnický’s statements were published over the weekend in Czech daily Mladá fronta Dnes.
      According to him, he received this information from Hungary’s Defense Minister István Simicskó.
      Stropnický told the Czech daily he has no reason to disbelieve statements by Simicskó. The Czech said it is likely that Russia’s objective is to destabilize the European Union.

      OK, here is the bold texts, of course, Stropniky did not have any evidence just belief.
      I don't know what it is, if not fake news/propaganda.

    15. Re:Propaganda by guestapoo · · Score: 1

      Meanwhile, everyone with a brain moves away from Russia (even the oligarchs!) or drinks himself to death

      Oh, another interesting information!
      Stratfor, IMRussia (but I think imrussia is more honest) all sing songs that Russia faces another wave of brain-drain.
      Yes, they have some examples, some apps startups, some game companies, but look at the numbers they provided.
      Firstly, the number from Stratfor:
      https://translate.google.com/t...
      (honestly, I actually like some anti-Putin jokes here)
      Now, dig into those numbers (forget about the pro-Russian stand of the author below, focus on the number):
      https://translate.google.com/t...
      That is, the number of emigrants move to Western countries slightly above the 2011.

    16. Re: Propaganda by fubarrr · · Score: 1

      I know better way: kill him

  10. Real Money in Fake News by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Interesting

    lots and lots of page views. Worse, Fake News only really works with the worst sort. Either people who aren't all there (Alzheimer's, which given aging populations is a real problem) or folks who never learned critical thinking (which, despite what the right ring will tell you, is a skill that can be taught. That's what all those English Classes are for).

    The worst thing is you can't even harness Fake News for good. The sort of person who's on the ball enough to do good isn't going to fall for Fake News. Where the sort of person who is just needs a little push in the right direction to do something nasty. That's why you don't see left wing Fake News very much. The ones selling it (not good natured lefties but folks in the page views biz) admitted as much when asked in several interviews. Lefty Fake News gets debunked too fast to spread like good Fake News needs to...

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    1. Re:Real Money in Fake News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No. Critical thinking is taught in Critical Thinking and Logic classes. They can be found in the philosophy department. If you never took one, you have no formal education in critical thinking but might have picked up some skills along the way as necessary to pass other classes. Similar to having learned a little economics and a little math when taking accounting.

    2. Re:Real Money in Fake News by lgw · · Score: 1, Informative

      folks who never learned critical thinking (which, despite what the right ring will tell you, is a skill that can be taught. That's what all those English Classes are for).

      Sadly, "critical thinking" has been replaced in the curriculum with "critical of white cis-hetero men" thinking.

      The sort of person who's on the ball enough to do good isn't going to fall for Fake News

      Wow, so only smart people can do good? That's a breathtaking level of intellectual snobbery.

      . Lefty Fake News gets debunked too fast to spread like good Fake News needs to...

      Has "hands up, don't shoot" ever been well-debunked? Certainly not before several riots happened. Or are you using "Fake News" to mean "any news that doesn't fit the progressive narrative", in which case, sure the lack of left wing fake news is trivially true.

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    3. Re: Real Money in Fake News by Robotbeat · · Score: 2

      ...unless it's about Monsanto and GMOs and nuclear power. The left eats that up. ...and I'm fairly progressive.

    4. Re:Real Money in Fake News by ClickOnThis · · Score: 4, Informative

      The sort of person who's on the ball enough to do good isn't going to fall for Fake News. Where the sort of person who is just needs a little push in the right direction to do something nasty. That's why you don't see left wing Fake News very much. The ones selling it (not good natured lefties but folks in the page views biz) admitted as much when asked in several interviews. Lefty Fake News gets debunked too fast to spread like good Fake News needs to...

      This. Last month, there was story about this on NPR.

      TL/DR: Jestin Coler (the fake-news writer) claimed that he does it to show how easily hoodwinked people are by fake news, but when pressed, he admitted he could make lots of money doing this. A few interesting quotes from his interview:

      The whole idea from the start was to build a site that could infiltrate the echo chambers of the alt-right, publish blatantly false or fictional stories and then be able to publicly denounce those stories and point out the fact that they were fiction.
      [...]
      We've tried to do similar things to liberals. It just has never worked, it never takes off. You'll get debunked within the first two comments and then the whole thing just kind of fizzles out.

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    5. Re: Real Money in Fake News by rahvin112 · · Score: 1

      Your wrong, fake news is alive and well on the left, it just operates on different topics than the right. It is just as effective at is goal of segregating people into groups and demonizing the other side. The ultimate goal of these campaigns is the same as ever, divide and conquer.

    6. Re:Real Money in Fake News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Huh, i thought fake news was meant to refer to the left?

    7. Re:Real Money in Fake News by AmiMoJo · · Score: 0

      Makes sense, the alt-right's entire philosophy is that they are victims of a range of bizarre conspiracies by the rich and powerful (except Trump), the mainstream media (except Breitbart), feminists and women in general, Obama, SJWs, the tax man, and pretty much any else who disagrees with them. They thrive on conspiracies.

      The problem is that the debunking part doesn't work. They become too heavily invested in the falsehood to give it up simply because it isn't true. If you head over the Reddit people are still convinced Pizzagate is real, long after that guy searched the building and confirmed that there are no secret torture chambers or tunnels, not even a basement.

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    8. Re:Real Money in Fake News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem is that the debunking part doesn't work.

      What you're doing doesn't work either. You've been really attacking and ridiculing these fringe right groups (and even groups not really far right, like GamerGate) for years AmiMojo, but look where has that gotten you? Brexit, Trump victory.

      The thing with those fringe right wing groups are just that - they're fringe groups. They aren't why you lost. They alone don't make up the 46% of the popular vote. That 46% included moderates and actual liberals. They are normal people, and when normal people get lumped in with "deplorables" and summarily dismissed they gonna get pissed, no different than how people got turned off by Romney's "47%" comment. Actually, it's worse, since it's coming from the party that supposedly cares for nuance and knows that everybody is unique and how we shouldn't use labels like "SJW" on people. It's worse when it's coming from the party who claims to what to have an honest discussion about the real issues we have, but then proceed to dismiss any concerns or issues people have by lumping them with the "deplorables"

      Don't believe me. From the NPR article that you think makes so much sense:

      "Q: As a liberal, do you have any regrets?

      A: I don't. Again, this is something that I've been crying about for a while. But outside of that, there are many factors as to why Trump won that don't involve fake news, right? As much as I like Hillary, she was a poor candidate. She brought in a lot of baggage."

    9. Re: Real Money in Fake News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have never encountered. would you share inks to "lefty" fake news sites?

    10. Re:Real Money in Fake News by hey! · · Score: 1

      For what it's worth I think liberals can get taken in by false news too, it's just that this guy doesn't have the ear for it. It's like trying to cross over from country to jazz. This guy just doesn't know how to hit the note that triggers the fight or flight response in liberals.

      That said, it's the conservative movement's historical turn to suffer from arrogance-induced head-rot, as the liberal movement has had at times in the past. A society requires a tension between its liberal and conservative impulses, and what we're looking at is the US conservative movement losing coherency from having the upper hand for so long. Evidence: the incoming president from the conservative party isn't conservative at all. He's more like a cancer in the conservative movement.

      Now Bob Dole -- there was a real conservative; arguably the last real conservative Republican nomoinee to run as a conservative. Mitt Romney had to cater to the elements in the Republican party, but he'd likely have governed as an establishment conservative. But to lay claim to being conservative, you have to be consistent enough in your vision to have something to conserve.

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    11. Re:Real Money in Fake News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "We've tried to do similar things to liberals. It just has never worked, it never takes off. "

      Rolling Stone did a pretty good job of it. Maybe ask them for some tips?

    12. Re:Real Money in Fake News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why you don't see left wing Fake News very much.

      Sounds to me like you're part of the "folks who never learned critical thinking" group because that's a hilarious statement.

      Where the sort of person who is just needs a little push in the right direction to do something nasty.

      That's exactly what's happenening with the left: they demonize and dehumanize people they disagree with. Which in turn leads to them justifying harassment and vandalizing politicians homes/businesses/cars/etc because they live in an echo chamber where they're the good guys and everyone who disagrees is a dumb, baby-eating, racist, sexist, xenophobe subhuman.

    13. Re:Real Money in Fake News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lefty Fake News gets debunked too fast to spread like good Fake News needs to...

      By whom? Certainly not the left because they believe anything as long as it confirms their bias.

      You only need to look at the vote of OP's post, "+5, interesting". Everyone loves to be told they're the smart and noble ones and everyone else is an idiot. Why question something that says exactly what you want to hear?

    14. Re:Real Money in Fake News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe he's just bad at writing liberal fanfiction? It clearly works for the Huffington Post, Politico, Salon and others who are quite successful at it.

    15. Re:Real Money in Fake News by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 1

      The problem is that the debunking part doesn't work.

      What you're doing doesn't work either. You've been really attacking and ridiculing these fringe right groups (and even groups not really far right, like GamerGate) for years AmiMojo, but look where has that gotten you? Brexit, Trump victory.

      The thing with those fringe right wing groups are just that - they're fringe groups. They aren't why you lost. They alone don't make up the 46% of the popular vote. That 46% included moderates and actual liberals. They are normal people, and when normal people get lumped in with "deplorables" and summarily dismissed they gonna get pissed, no different than how people got turned off by Romney's "47%" comment. Actually, it's worse, since it's coming from the party that supposedly cares for nuance and knows that everybody is unique and how we shouldn't use labels like "SJW" on people. It's worse when it's coming from the party who claims to what to have an honest discussion about the real issues we have, but then proceed to dismiss any concerns or issues people have by lumping them with the "deplorables"

      Don't believe me. From the NPR article that you think makes so much sense:

      "Q: As a liberal, do you have any regrets?

      A: I don't. Again, this is something that I've been crying about for a while. But outside of that, there are many factors as to why Trump won that don't involve fake news, right? As much as I like Hillary, she was a poor candidate. She brought in a lot of baggage."

      The bulk of the left electorate knows that which you are highlighting. I honestly only know one person in real life who voted for Hillary enthusiastically. Everybody else (myself included) who voted for Hillary was on a mood best described as follows : "I guess I'm going to take a bite out of that shit sandwich because the alternative is to shove a bucket of live scorpions up my ass, and that sounds like the least appetizing option."

      OTH, it seems pretty obvious people were enthusiastic about Trump, way before Hillary announced her candidacy. There is plenty of buyer's remorse now, though, and it is funny to see people bending themselves over backwards trying to justify their choices.

    16. Re: Real Money in Fake News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      CNN, WaPo, NYT, southen powerty law center and so on?

  11. Re: Are the Russians gonna beat Hillary! there, to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Same AC here. I apologize for my previous post, which is idiotic and stupid. Clinton was clearly the better candidate and she easily won the popular vote. The antiquated electoral college and meddling by the Russians were the only reasons that Hillary didn't get elected. My previous post is stupid, and I'm sorry for being such a moron. I will try to make better posts in the future.

  12. Re: R O T F L M A O - CNN? by No+Longer+an+AC · · Score: 2

    Why was my post modded down, but APK's wasn't?

    Because I'm out of mod points.

  13. Often the truth isn't even hidden. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Often the truth isn't even hidden.

    Let's look at the recent and ongoing illegal immigration disaster unfolding in Europe.

    A lot of the time the news reports include photos or video footage that contradicts what is claimed in the associated written or spoken report.

    We'll see reports that discuss how most are supposedly Syrian refugees, but the photos and footage will show large numbers of Sub-Saharan Africans.

    We'll see reports that discuss how most of them are supposedly women and children, but the photos and footage will show large numbers of young, fighting-age men, with almost no women and children to be seen.

    We'll see reports that talk about how peaceful and law-abiding these people supposedly are, but the photos and footage show them attacking lorries in Calais, or fighting with border officials in Greece, or sneaking into Europe illegally, or committing yet another violent attack against European civilians.

    Just looking at and analyzing the pictures and video footage, and ignoring what's written or said in the associated report, will give a more accurate depiction of what's actually going on.

    1. Re:Often the truth isn't even hidden. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's a simple reason why the news doesn't show more of the stuff you're talking about and that's because there's simply not much to show.

      They don't harp on about incidents of people attacking lorries to try and get on them because it only happened a handful of times in 10 years.

      They don't do ethnic breakdowns because it's hard to measure, I know it's a difficult concept for master race types who believe nations should be pure in their bloodlines but countries like Syria and Libya had large sub-saharan populations, those people were typically used to do the low end labour they end up doing in most Western countries. What you're saying is that they're less worthy of fleeing war, it sounds like you've got some kind of gradient skin shade worthiness scale going on where the further away from white you are the less worthy you are of entry or something.

      What you're really saying is that you want to give disproportionate continued coverage to one-off events involving black people because you're racist.

      Why beat about the bush? Call a spade a spade if you've got the courage to stand up for your beliefs. Otherwise stop bullshitting and defending and propagating fake news. If you can't argue your case based on the facts then it's pretty obvious you've not got a case worth arguing, stop resorting to lies to make up for that.

      You're right, often the truth isn't even hidden, the fact you're a flagrant racist and are talking bullshit to push your case rather than sticking to the facts is plainly there for all to see.

    2. Re:Often the truth isn't even hidden. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That's right. Keep telling yourself that anyone who points out inconvenient truths is just racist. That way, you can just ignore everything they say and live in your little bubble of disinformation.

    3. Re:Often the truth isn't even hidden. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you can keep being racist

    4. Re: Often the truth isn't even hidden. by fubarrr · · Score: 1

      >but the photos and footage will show large numbers of young, fighting-age men,

      PERFECT! Germany needs more soldiers to fight scum

    5. Re:Often the truth isn't even hidden. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What does "being racist" even means?
      Of cource everybody must first take care of their family and then people of the same color and nationality as them.

      That - "you are a rasict" - meme is a hot air woosh ... and you can always say to stupid people who like to brand other people "racist" - "of cource i am racist, so what?"

  14. Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think I'm less upset that the governments of the world are setting up their own Minitrue's to stop this worrying trend of the proles not voting how they're told (except in the US, where the 1st amendment forces that task to be delegated to private corporations) than I am insulted by the fact that they're using the single lamest, most transparent piece of propaganda the world (sans North Korea) has seen in our lifetimes. "Fake News" and "muh Russian hackers!" are "Freedom Fries"-tier terrible.

    The silver lining is that the incidents of "fake news" from MSM sources are infinitely more common than russian propaganda, so hopefully by the time it actually matters the whole project should wind up being a net negative on the corporate media's credibility.

  15. Re:No One Cared When Clinton Used it Against Berni by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Alright. So the next time you whine about Fox News' bias, remember that all of their programming save about 4 hours a day when everyone's at work is technically "opinion".

    So if "opinion" pieces are allowed to be totally made-up partisan bullshit, then surely Fox is in the clear.

  16. Counter-terrorism? Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm impressed how they managed to smuggle the word "terrorism" into the headline without saying anything about fighting it or even identifying it. Or is it supposed to be obvious that anyone who dares to agree with a Russian viewpoint or question the need for "coherence of NATO and EU" is a terrorist?

  17. Impersonating me? LOL, weak... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Std. "mainstream media tactics" eh? You did a SHIT JOB of trying to "impersonate me" fool! Guess what I wrote (truth) got to you eh? https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10053719&cid=53568497/

    * Grow up...

    APK

    P.S.=> Unbelievable (happened to me MANY times though, that's how LOW the 'flimsy donut dweebs' around here are vs. facts)... apk

  18. Still waiting for one single example... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ...of a "fake news" story provably fabricated and spread by Russians to try to get Trump elected that:

    (choose at least one)
    1) Got traction in the mainstream media and had a measurable influence on public opinion.
    2) Was mentioned at all in the mainstream media
    3) Was spread widely on respectable conservative websites (Breitbart, Daily Caller, etc.), leading already-committed Trump voters to be slightly more overwhelmingly likely to turn out to vote
    4) Was mentioned at all on respectable conservative websites
    5) Was mentioned at all on the less-respectable conservative websites (Infowars, Truepundit, etc.) that a few of the more conspiracy-minded still take sort-of seriously.
    6) Existed at all in any measurable form.

    And no, wikileaks doesn't count. The emails were 100%, provably real, and in any case wikileaks swears up and down its source wasn't the Russians.

    1. Re:Still waiting for one single example... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahh the one true scotsman. You obviously recognize the endless fake news and define these as not fake unless.... (lots of conditions you added). Which of course is simply admitting the fake news.

      But then you helped didn't you? You were one of the people repeating and exaggerating selected lies, suggesting she'd had an FBI agent Micheal Brown killed (which turned out to be a fake news site created to disseminate the fake news story you repeated for a non-existant FBI agent and his non-existant murder).

      So someone sets up a website, designed to look like the Denver Post site, posts a fake FBI murder suicide story, people like you are out sexing it up a bit, suggesting Hillary had him killed, and the whole thing is just a sham to deceive voters.... but it's not fake news because Breitbard

      And then there was the "HIllary had Seth Rich murdered because he leaked emails" malarky. Assange seizing on the robbery and murder of a DNC staffer, to pretend (but not claim) that maybe Seth was Wikileaks source. Except we know the hackers involved in Wikileaks source, they set up fake websites, sent spam emails from administrators asking them to change their password, created fake Google email login pages, and were Russian government hackers. And you lot repeated the lies, with more innuendo.

      Trumpsky takes power, he'll end sanctions against Russia, undermine NATO (and US security with it), hand Syria over to Russia, perhaps Ukraine and the Baltics too. Maybe Georgia, which gives him the Baku pipeline. Effectively USA becomes a minor player in the world, Russia would control Asian oil supplies and dominate the middle east. At that point, what props up the dollar? Oil? Burger Blubber? Trump hot air?

  19. Russias's fake news propaganda by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Like allegedly backing hackers who retrieved and released true e-nails from Democrats. You heard it here first, folks, the Democrats are calling inconvenient truths obtained through unsanctioned means, "fake news." The real truth is they've been doing this for years and only just came up with the newspeak "fake news" groupthink moniker.

    1. Re:Russias's fake news propaganda by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't it amazing how easily Republican propaganda people will work with Russian propaganda people to undermine their own democracy. Sometime you turn on the TV to RT News and you can't tell the difference between that and Fox News.

      Same General employed as spokepeople for RT News, Putin propaganda channel are now working for Trump in his government team.

      Same Trump supporters feeding off the same propaganda Putin fed you. And you lap it up and repeat it. Anything for power, if Putin can give you power, you'll follow Putin.

      So now you have a traitor in the Whitehouse, a General connected to Russian spies as National Security Advisor, a businessman with direct Russian oil deals as Homeland Secretary. You have Trump trying to block sanctions against Putin, you have Trump receiving money from foreign powers for legislation.

  20. With all finger pointing aside by mentholsmooth · · Score: 1

    It should be quite alarming that a state would issue such policies. I also realize that this is the agenda here in the US. Unfortunately, censoring media, including fake news, is constitutionally protected. I do realize there is an arm of MSM and the masses of Sheeple who disagree. I'll be happy to point out that while certain candidates, like Obama, have gotten a free pass initiating the groundwork for censorship, these same policies should and have already sounded the alarm when the wrong regime takes office (Trump). What is good for the goose is good for the gander right? Or perhaps we can cut the left/right hypocritical bullshit. If the policies are dangerous under any regime, they are just dangerous all together and the People should stand up and prevent these policies from being implemented.

    1. Re:With all finger pointing aside by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      It should be quite alarming that a state would issue such policies. I also realize that this is the agenda here in the US. Unfortunately, censoring media, including fake news, is constitutionally protected.

      I don't know if you realise but the Czech republic is not a US state and so the US constitution has no particular applicability. And you know what's far more alarming to the Czech than some foreign countries constitution (which is a mixture of excellent and very dated)? Russia. It's only been 25 years since they've been free of that particular yoke and life behind the iron curtain is well within the living memory of a lot of the population.

      I don't know if you've ever been to the former Eastern Bloc countries, but the memories of Russian occupation is not exactly a fond one. More like it's greeted with phrases such as "never again".

      Russian belligerance is rising. Waffling on about 'sheeple' and 'MSM' to former occupied states is laughably wide of the mark.

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  21. the following takes place between 2pm and 3pm by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    Now we are going to trun that camera and beat the truth out of you.

  22. Did this actually happened by Z80a · · Score: 1

    Or this is fake news as well?

  23. Is CNN worried about being banned? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > they are trivial to spot: for example, they love to call any opposition "fascist" -

    Wait, so the people fighting against Trump are Russian trolls?

    1. Re:Is CNN worried about being banned? by Narcocide · · Score: 1

      No, they're fighting against both sides. Their own sock puppets even fight amongst themselves. They don't have any vested interest in either party winning, just in ensuring maximum collateral damage to both parties during the struggle.

    2. Re:Is CNN worried about being banned? by Darinbob · · Score: 4, Informative

      In Russia they call anyone they dislike a fascist. Any government that disagrees with Putin is a fascist, any government that wants to align with the west is fascist, any nation that allied with Nazis over fear of USSR invasions is called fascist. It is sort of the equivalent of Americans calling people they don't like, socialists. Because Russia had such a rough time of it after the USSR breakup (despite that being a good thing on the whole) they tend to lean back on winning in WWII as a point of personal pride. We have dimwitted people in the US saying "you'd all be speaking German if it wasn't for us!" and so similarly the dimwitted people in Russia will accuse othesr who are opposed to Russian government policies as nazi or fascist.

    3. Re:Is CNN worried about being banned? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't know a thing about Russia, and so you also don't understand why Russians associate nationalism to fascism (WWII, to give you a hint, when 26 million Soviet people - russians, jews, ucrainians, lithuanians, kazachs, uzbecks, and others - died to defeat nazism; this is a tentative figure).

    4. Re:Is CNN worried about being banned? by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 1

      You don't know a thing about Russia, and so you also don't understand why Russians associate nationalism to fascism (WWII, to give you a hint, when 26 million Soviet people - russians, jews, ucrainians, lithuanians, kazachs, uzbecks, and others - died to defeat nazism; this is a tentative figure).

      Newsflash: we actually know those numbers you speak off. We just don't see the logical connective between that and calling everything as fascist or nazi (because there really isn't one.)

    5. Re:Is CNN worried about being banned? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of those 26 million, how many were killed by the Nazis, and how many by the Soviet government itself?

      Between Hitler and Stalin, Hitler was probably still the bigger monster. But Stalin ran him a close second.

    6. Re:Is CNN worried about being banned? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What?
      Compared to the Stalin, Hitler is a little boy when things comes to killed people by the government.

      Even the oh so loved official concentaration camp figures in Poland for Auschwitz-Birkenau have come down from 4 million to mere - "thousand of people suffered here" ...

  24. Let's start a conspiracy theory by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 2

    This fake news stuff is getting boring. Let's start a conspiracy theory instead: the CIA splashed a Russian military plane in retaliation for helping Wikileaks expose Clinton and the rest of the Democrats as people you wouldn't trust to walk your dog.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/28/europe/russian-military-plane-crash/index.html

    1. Re:Let's start a conspiracy theory by swb · · Score: 1

      This occurred to me. Rather than an obvious "cyberattack" where you shut off ATMs or electricity or some other completely obvious visible service, instead you demonstrate how you can hit the remote off button for avionics on specific aircraft at will.

      It works well because unlike things expected to be network connected and possibly have some kind of reachable vulnerability in a knowable failure domain, something not considered practically hackable gets disabled and there's not even good theories about how its done or what the limits of such a technique may be.

    2. Re:Let's start a conspiracy theory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or it was just faulty flaps due to insufficient maintenance ... due to insufficient funds. How about that?

    3. Re:Let's start a conspiracy theory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why, oh why CIA hates Russian military music so much that they had to drop the plane!!??!! Whyyyy!?

      Good enough?

  25. Just following the U.S' Lead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The U.S. effectively just did the same thing. I wonder if they are being funded by the new Center?

    " AUTHORITY FOR GRANTS .—The Center is authorized to provide grants or contracts of financial support to civil society groups, media content providers, nongovernmental organiza-
    tions, federally funded research and development centers, private companies, or academic institutions for the following purposes:
    (A) To support local independent media who are best placed to refute foreign disinformation and manipulation in their own communities.
    (B) To collect and store examples in print, online, and social media, disinformation, misinformation, and propaganda directed at the United States and its allies and partners. ...
    (2) FUNDING AVAILABILITY AND LIMITATIONS .—The Secretary of State shall provide that each organization that applies to receive funds under this subsection is selected in accordance with the relevant existing regulations to ensure its bona fides, capability, and experience, and its compatibility with United States interests and objectives. " - S. 2943 Sec. 1287 "Global Engagement Center"

    The bill it was passed as part of: S. 2943 "National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2017" https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/2943/text?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%222017+National+Defense+Authorization+Act.%22%5D%7D&r=1

    The original bill that section came from: S.3274 https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/3274?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22Countering+Foreign+Propaganda%22%5D%7D&r=1

  26. Re: No One Cared When Clinton Used it Against Bern by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If FoxNews wants to change their tagline, they're welcome to it.

  27. Re: Are the Russians gonna beat Hillary! there, t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm no trump fan, but we need to seriously stop notching about the EC. Its there for a reason, and trump, while different, hasn't proven himself to be a serious incompetent yet

  28. More than Propaganda by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They hack emails, sex them up and selective release as propaganda. (The CIA report says Russia hacked the Republican emails too, and is holding them for intelligence and leverage against the incoming incumbants.)

    They hacked election registration sites, and an electronic voting machine maker in California. Getting the election registration undermines the absentee ballot vote because it lets you generate large numbers of fake absentee ballots.

    In essense they rig elections, using the rivalry of the two parties against each other, to put a puppet into power, that puppet then appoints other puppet operators and seeds them through government. Who needs to win a war, or do a decapitation strike, when you can render a country useless using its own politicians.

    Czech Republic fears Russian meddling, Estonia has already seen it, the Baltics have a Russian enclave next to them, and Latvia spotted a group of Russians, identified as the same South Georgia group and the Ukrainian group, shit stirrers, used to create a false premise for Russia to attack. So they're concerned. With NATO Trumped it makes their military alliance weak.

  29. Re: No One Cared When Clinton Used it Against Ber by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Their tag line is "fair and balanced." Not "all news all the time."

  30. That works fantastic by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    for people with a higher baseline intelligence. In other worlds the sort of people who would have learned to think Critically on their own. For the less capable reading and analyzing texts in a classroom setting is how they learn. And believe me, you want those people to learn critical thinking. Otherwise they'll be lead by the nose to the slaughter house, and you'll get roped in with them.

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  31. Um.. what does any of your post mean? by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

    I mean, it's a troll, and a bad one, but you could at least try a little harder. "critical of white cis-hetero men"? I can't tell if you're attacking or supporting feminism. In either case I got none of that in my English class. I had one class built around that sorta thing and it was mostly there to give me exposure to other cultures/ideas in the hopes that any lingering racism I might have picked up from my folks I might disabuse myself of (how's that for Intellectual Snobbery, I used the phrase "disabused of". Hope I used it correctly...).

    And I litterally have no idea what you're last comment is about. Again, please try harder. If you're gonna troll me I need to understand the trolling well enough to respond. C-, see me after class.

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    1. Re:Um.. what does any of your post mean? by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      I mean, it's a troll, and a bad one, but you could at least try a little harder.

      Hate to be the one to tell you this, but university has changed in the last ~15-25 years since you or I were there last. What the GP was talking about, is pretty much the norm in quite a few universities. You see it here in Canuck universities like Brown and University of Toronto quite often. This is usually rounded out by several parts of the course material(or other courses) making statements like "the patriarchy is what's keeping us women down."

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    2. Re:Um.. what does any of your post mean? by TheCastro1689 · · Score: 1

      If you don't know what his last comment is about then you haven't followed US news for a year. BLM and other movements were saying "Hands up, don't shoot" because that was what the news reported happened when Michael Brown was killed. Except it didn't happen. There was also some rioting about the shooting during this time. The truth came out that he never said or did that and in fact attacked the officer. That fake news spread quickly and kept momentum, and it was "lefty fake news".

  32. They eat up the more or less real stores by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

    There's lots of bad to say about Monsanto. GMOs make a lot of people nervous because we don't fully understand them; and by 'we' I mean all of us. It's not like we've got a 100% perfect grasp on genetic engineering. Still most progressives when pressed will admit that it's the only solution to feed our population. Sure, we've got nutters who'll disagree, but they're our nutters and we recognize them as such.

    As a progressive (and a Democratic Socialist who waited in line 3 hours to vote Bernie) I'm nervous about Nuclear. Fukushima isn't exactly a glowing recommendation (it glowed, I suppose). The trouble with nuclear is that sooner or later some asshat "Job Creator" is going to take over the plant with promises of all the money privatization will save and cut maintenance and safety. Which is exactly what happened in Japan. Until Nuclear plants are cheaper to run and maintain safely than not or until American embraces government regulation I'll stick with Natural Gas fired plants and as much wind/solar as I can get.

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    1. Re: They eat up the more or less real stores by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, you're the fucking problem. You're just as stupid and brainwashed as any FoxNews redneck. The only difference is that you pretend that you're smarter than everyone else, where at least the hillbilly is modest and humble.

      Condescending elitist smug fucks like you lost us an election. Fuck off.

    2. Re:They eat up the more or less real stores by John.Banister · · Score: 1

      The Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant was designed by GE in the 1960s. If you look today at the safety record of cars designed in the 1960s, you might be nervous about cars, too. People putting up road blocks to building new nuclear plants to replace the old ones and then using the failure of the old ones as a reason to put up even more road blocks seems to me very much like the people who cut the funding for government agencies and then use the poor performance that results from the inadequate funding as a reason to cut the agency funding still further.

  33. Re:R O T F L M A O - CNN? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "According to CNN" it the current version of "according to Pravda" from the days of the Soviet Union.

  34. We wouldn't have needed to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If the news organisations had been willing and able to police themselves and check that news was actually true before blabbing it out. But, no, they don't. Anchorman is pretty close to a documentary, and now, because eyeballs mean reveneue, they all work that way and peddle whatever fastfood for the brain that they can hit the required demographic with and cut costs by not spending time and effort checking up themselves, never mind anyone else.

  35. So this means no ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    ... Fox News.

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    1. Re:So this means no ... by John.Banister · · Score: 1

      ... in the Czech Republic.

    2. Re:So this means no ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      Yes.

      In the US, we don't get nice things.

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  36. Wikileaks was the fake news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Except that the Wikileaks emails were DKIM validated and CNN lied about it repeatedly, both with claims it was fake or altered somehow (no examples were ever provided) and claims it was somehow illegal to look at if you're not in the media (it's not). Bonus points: the same lawyer has also been seen on CNN completely unable to do simple math when trying to divide a lottery amount among everyone in the USA.

    Then they started full on with Russian hacking BS to get people to look the other way. They have yet to present any kind of proof, either to the public or to Congress. All the "news" articles quote unnamed high level sources who give not even one single verifiable fact.

    Oh, but there was that firm the DNC hired. They said they had malware that they thought was of Russian origin, that someone used a server in the Russian IP space (err, why would the Kremlin do that again?), they also hacked some other government target (independent hackers /never/ do that!) and that they used some RATs ... which are widely available on Russian underground forums (and I don't believe they've responded to that one).

    So... yeah, we have a bunch of anonymous sources and someone claimed to geo-IP an IP address back to Russia once. Because no one has ever staged attacks from hacked servers in other countries, they've never used VPNs, and they always use their real info when hacking you. They'd *never* leave false leads when hacking. Never. It's clearly as real as the phishing email that claimed Podesta was being hacked by the Ukraine. Oh wait, any random kiddie could've sent that one.

    If you think I'm kidding, just read the Russian hack articles. They'll all reference past articles (usually on the same site), anonymous highly placed sources, the 17 agencies of ODNI (the Coast Guard & friends, where two political appointees wrote a memo saying this is totally something Russia would like to maybe do), and nothing whatsoever of actual substance. They hardly ever link to primary sources, not even the ODNI statement.

  37. Re: No One Cared When Clinton Used it Against Ber by rahvin112 · · Score: 2

    The title is also part of the tag line. Ie fox NEWS. Its not news, but they sure pretend it is, and its not anywhere near 4 hours a day, its at best 20 minutes a session with three sessions a day or 1 out of 24.

    Fox "news" is one of the most succesfull propaganda campaigns in history and the purveyours of fake news have copied the model and abandoned trying to be subtle. The fairness doctrine needs to be re-established for broadcast television and truth in advertising enforced by the FTC with severe financial penalties for fraud.

  38. Re: Are the Russians gonna beat Hillary! there, t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Umm...actually, yes, he has. Multiple times. He's also shown himself to be probably not quite as bad as many people fear.

  39. Re:Unnecessary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do not worry. There is no way those five or six refugees of whatever origin passing through could sweep away the glorious czech culture of utter racism.

  40. Here we go. by CxDoo · · Score: 1

    Finally a strategy to deal with untruth news.
    Doubleplusgood comrades!

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  41. And they're not fair or balanced. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And Fox News is called Fox NEWS. If they're just entertainment or opinion shows, it should be Fox Entertainment or Fox Opinions.

    But, still, the tagline needs to change from what it is, it doesn't need to change only if the tagline was "news all the time".

  42. I call bollcks on the claim by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You claim he was a nut. However, that's merely because you vehemently disagree with his policies. He's not a nut, and your claim is bollocks, it makes it YOUR problem Bernie didn't win, not his policies.

    As to your claim he's far left and the USA never voted fora president that far left, I point you to FDR. Heck, he's not left of several of the pre-Reagan presidents. Never mind leaders of the opposition.

    And it's the same problem with Corbyn. You just assert that he's unelectable because you have a visceral problem with his policies, therefore he's unelectable. And shouting it out every second you can merely makes it self-fulfilling. If you'd shut the fuck up for a minute, people might actually look at the policies, but you keep bleating out "They're unworkable! Communism!" and people think that because you're so vehement, you must have checked and they MUST be really bad, so why bother checking.

  43. And the first terroristic news is from the Czech p by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Our strongly pro-Russian president is the first, whose New Year's speech needs to be addressed. He claimed that this unit is going to censor the internet, although their aim is only to point out a disinformation.

  44. let me guess.. truth = fake news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how long before they start 'countering' wikileaks? despite being 100% accurate 100% of the time in their 10 year history.

  45. Re:R O T F L M A O - CNN? by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

    "According to CNN" it the current version of "according to Pravda" from the days of the Soviet Union.

    Oh, puh-leeze. I'm not sure what's worse -- that you could make a false equivalence of CNN with Pravda, or that someone modded you insightful.

    CNN is not state-run, and it is not beholden to government censors.

    And while we're on the subject, there are several healthy democracies that have state-funded media that does not hold back its criticisms of the government. The CBC in Canada and the BBC in the UK are two examples.

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  46. Re: Are the Russians gonna beat Hillary! there, t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Never trust people with tiny hands

  47. It didn't spread very far by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    I've been following news non stop. Read the Washington Post, watch the Daily Show, Sam Bee, John Oliver and Cobert Report. That's kinda my point. Lefty fake news doesn't work. Lefties just don't fall for it the way righties do. There's a quote from one of the Fake News sellers where he admitted that the stuff just gets debunked before it can go viral...

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  48. But I heard it on the internet by solarmon · · Score: 1

    Fake news? That could never happen here.

  49. Czechia, not Czech Republic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the correct name of my country in English is Czechia, not Czech Republic.

  50. Re:Propaganda & Brexit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    US elections and Czech ... why not Brexit in between?

  51. Re:R O T F L M A O - CNN? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    CNN and BBC are like pravda (truth in russian). They talk and push the rulers "liberal" talking points down to the masses.