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Snowden Doc Shows NSA Blamed Russia For Hack of Murdered Journalist (thehill.com)
The National Security Agency (NSA) knew that the Russian government hacked the email account of a prominent journalist the year before she was killed in Moscow, documents published by The Intercept show. The 2006 murder of longtime Kremlin critic Anna Politkovskaya -- who was gunned down in the elevator of her apartment complex -- is widely believed to have been a contract killing. Politkovskaya was a noted critic of Russian President Vladimir Putin, and it has long been suspected that the murder was carried out on his orders. From a report: The NSA compiled an internal file on Politkovskaya, which was exposed as part of the Edward Snowden leaks. Much of the document is unclassified and public, except for one top-secret segment: "Russian Federal Intelligence Services (probably FSB) are known to have targeted the webmail account of the murdered Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya," the passage reads. "On 5 December 2005, RFIS initiated an attack against the account annapolitkovskaia@US Provider1, deploying malicious software which is not available in the public domain. It is not known whether this attack is in any way associated with the death of the journalist."
Did you bother to read the first link in your own Google search? The snopes.com link that found those rumors to be false?
Or have you drunk so much of the kool-aid that you think Snopes is covering for Clinton?
Care to post any actual fact instead of spreading false rumors and lies?
I hope you're happy. You gullible morons have fucked us all.
It took 8 years to undo the damage caused by Bush. It might have taken another 8 years to undo the damage caused by Obama, if a sane conservative could have been found hiding under a rock somewhere and convinced to run for President. But now it will take 100 years to undo the damage caused by Trump... and that's without taking the half-lives of various fission products into account.
Good jorb.
You're asking SuperKendall to not post false rumors and lies? That's all he can post!
You Americans are finally getting a taste of your own medicine. I hope Trump fucks you good and hard. You deserve it, after 8 years of Clinton bombing civilians, 8 years of Bush invading countries, and 8 years of Obama droning innocent people and screwing around where you don't belong.
You think Obama is different - he's the exact same as Bush. But you're such idiots you can't see it.
Vladimir Putin is a clone of Hitler
Calling a Russian "Hitler" is probably a pretty good way to get your ass kicked.
Irony: Agile development has too much intertia to be abandoned now.
seems Obama wants to stir as much anti Russian sentiment as he can before he joins the trash heap and make it as difficult as possible for Trump. I am very much anti trump but what Obama and Co are doing at the moment is fucking appalling.
Snopes is a hardcore liberal site. If you think they're neutral I've got a bridge to sell you.
Have You Comrade?
https://theintercept.com/2016/12/29/top-secret-snowden-document-reveals-what-the-nsa-knew-about-previous-russian-hacking/
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(TS//SI//REL TO USA, AUS, CAN, GBR, NZL) Russian Federal Intelligence Services (probably FSB) are known to have targeted the webmail account of the murdered Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya. On 5 December 2005, RFIS initiated an attack against the account annapolitkovskaia@US Provider1, by deploying malicious software which is not available in the public domain. It is not known whether this attack is in any way associated with the death of the journalist. [1]
What the NSA appears to know is that the Russians targeted the journalist's email account using malware that it believed was not in the public domain.
But teh internal wiki itself is a little problematic:
Unfortunately, in the case of this wiki there’s no indication of exactly what sort of SIGINT was collected with regard to Politkovskaya, or how it incriminated Russian intelligence — all we have is the allusion to the evidence, not the evidence. The NSA declined to comment.
TheHill article is terrible because it draws from alleged and unproven information produced by private security firms like Crowdstrike, assumes that information is factual, and then merges that with a sliver of NSA information coming from a internal wiki (!) that was released with the Snowden docs. You wanna see fake news? This is it.
Millions? sigh
more bullshit good job moron, you're a stupid fucking uneducated redneck twit, willing to believe anything so long as is spreads hate
NO President has killed millions of people.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=worst%20war%20casualties%20in%20history
I really wish the closed minded, racist rednecks would fucking start learning the truth of the world. But then they wouldn't be closed minded rednecks any longer... I feel sorry for how you perceive the world. You're a sad person.
Seriously Obama you are starting to make Trump look sane. The last thing the world needs is a new cold war, never thought I would say it but Trump can't come soon enough before you do any more damage, I can only assume you or your party has big financial interests that are not supported by friendly relations with Russia.
You Americans are finally getting a taste of your own medicine. I hope Trump fucks you good and hard.
Trump is going to cut my taxes and pay for it by giving his nitwit followers a "small government" that is too weak to preserve their already meager standard of living and future prospects. If that he runs into any trouble, he is going to stomp on a bunch of foreigners and perhaps stampede a bunch of them into some other foreigner's country.
I would dearly love to avoid every one of these things, but I "lost".
Anyway, good luck with your schadenfreude!
He has Drunk so much Kool-Aid that he crashes though a wall every time someone says OH NO!
It took 8 years to undo the damage caused by Bush.
This just isn't accurate. We still have the TSA, we still have prisoners held without trial at Guantanamo Bay, we still have a Patriot Act (even though it isn't called the Patriot Act any more) and carte blanche spying on US citizens, we still have massive massive debt... The damage is most certainly not undone. This is Obama's greatest failure as president - he was elected pretty much with the sole purpose of undoing what Bush had done.
He managed to reduce it in some areas - there are fewer prisoners in Guantanamo Bay, the Patriot Act is marginally less bad than it was, the Bush tax cuts are mostly not bankrupting us anymore - but one cannot simply undo eight years of terrible legislation. You're right that we will be feeling the Trump administration 100 years from now, but we will still be feeling the Obama administration, the Bush administration, etc. Every legislator makes their mark, for good or ill, and when we vote we have to do so with the recognition that the decision we make is not a reversible one.
... that now owns the White House.
We are truly living in interesting times.
To be fair he got the peace prize before even really having a chance to do anything, it was sort of a "PLEASE DON'T KEEP BUSHING IT UP THANKS" and he was as confused as anyone by it.
Then he proceeded to suck.
Well, after being a daily user of this website for almost 15 years I have to give it up. I took a break during the heat of the election season because the comment sections had gotten over heated and partisan. ... came back today to give it another chance and see the first comment in this thread...Oh well.
Thanks for the memories slashdot. Truely.
The intelligent discussions seem to have disappeared. Best wishes.
Russia & the USA are the ones who stopped Hitler.
If you want to look for people who helped Nazis in positions of power, look at Soros' history. He started MoveOn.org and is an ethnic Jew whose father adopted him to a German family. He then went around helping his father in his job of robbing the Jews targeted by Nazis.
Yo Ivan (or Ivana), that word's not really an insult except to actual black people. it may be distasteful but, what it really does is make it glaringly obvious yer' red all over, not just your neck.
Seriously bitch, you ain't earning your keep. Good to know russians really are twice a stupid as the rest of the world.
And tell Pooty Poot he can gnaw the peanuts out of my shit.
What part of russia you live in bitch? Doesn't matter. None of us have any plans to visit that trash can except maybe to send our nigs there to bugger your children.
or roman like behavior... just being human is probably more like it.
i just read history and say meh, we have done worse.
What part of russia you live in bitch? Doesn't matter. None of us have any plans to visit that dungheap except maybe to send our nigs there to bugger your children.
Hmm, let me think... IRAQ, Nicaragua, and the list goes on. Of course US goals are "freedom" and "democracy" and therefore it is OK.
This is Obama's greatest failure as president - he was elected pretty much with the sole purpose of undoing what Bush had done.
That seems a bit unfair because, as you also wrote:
He managed to reduce it in some areas - there are fewer prisoners in Guantanamo Bay, the Patriot Act is marginally less bad than it was, the Bush tax cuts are mostly not bankrupting us anymore - but one cannot simply undo eight years of terrible legislation.
The American voter also gave itself the GOP-dominated congress which pretty much ran on a single-issue platform of obstructing Obama. So really, who can say WTF voters in this country want?
Whataboutery is a surefire "tell" for Putinbot activity.
You guys really should lift your game.
Judging from American history I'd rather call it manifest destiny. I mean, the whole nation was built on stolen land and bones of natives.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
would be better called American like behavior. Certainly Nazi's did it, but the US has repeatedly done it since WWII.
meh we have done worse, i hope to say the same at the end of Trumplethinskin's end of term
Calling a Russian "Hitler" is probably a pretty good way to get your ass kicked.
So would probably calling Hitler a mass murder have been when he was alive.
And his excuse for that was "Somebody else would have done it if I did not". Now that is a true psychopath.
...Hillary is pretty similar to Putin then.
Gad we dodged THAT bullet!
Then Anna Politkovskaya is to Seth Rich what Vladimir Putin is to Hilary Clinton
Vladimir Putin is a clone of Hitler
Calling a Russian "Hitler" is probably a pretty good way to get your ass kicked.
Actually, the closest Russia got to a Hitler was Stalin, if you include Communists, and Ivan the Terrible, if you wanna look at the Tsarists
I live in part of russia called washington. Will shoot you chimp on sight.
Wtf are you talking about? It's Trump that would love to kill journalists, Putin style.
First, why not Stalin instead of Hitler? He arguably murdered more people over the course of his life - and even engaged in his own brand of ethnic slaughter.
Second, I'm just thinking that constant hyperbole means I don't have a clue what someone means when they compare a person to Hitler these days. Trump is regularly called "Hitler" or a "Nazi" too. So is Putin a real Hitler, intent on purging million of people and taking over the world, or a George Bush / Donald Trump type Hitler where you disagree with his policies or behavior, or somewhere in-between? Calling someone Hitler these days means absolutely nothing, because it's now a term used to describe anyone the left disagrees with.
For the record, I didn't see any justification for Putin to invade Ukraine. It's hard to make a judgment on Crimea, which seemed to have populations vying both ways in a power play, while stabilizing Syria does seem to at least coincide with their actual economic interests (and they're a hell of a lot closer to that region than we are). He could very well be a very dangerous man to his enemies, though obviously we only have suspicions of killings. This makes it hard to differentiate from a conspiracy theory, especially from such a distance away. Remember, a lot of people believe there are a string of suspicious deaths tied to the Clintons as well. He's going to be very difficult for the next US administration to deal with, but it seems we could hardly do worse than what's happened over the past few years short of getting caught up into another a shooting war.
Irony: Agile development has too much intertia to be abandoned now.
I gotta say that the level of anti-Russian xenophobia is continuing hitting ever higher levels of stupid. NSA alleges that somebody hacked into some journalists account.... 11 years ago. Shocking stuff.
Uhhhm .... You know the president isn't a legislator, right?
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
No real news here: as in many countries, domestic intelligence monitors opponents, and there is nothing more, as the classified stuff says:
It is not known whether this attack is in any way associated with the death of the journalist.
Gravewax, you obviously want to spin this as a Trump story when it is not. You obviously are trying to promote Trump as if he would handle this better and he would not.
When Trump shares names of Russia dissidents to Putin (which Putin will pretend are terrorists) and Putin kills them, will you defend Trump?
What if those dissidents act in the interests of the US? Would you defend the speech murder then?
What if those dissidents live in America? Would you defend Trump then?
What if those dissidents ARE American living in America, will you defend Trump then?
Putin had a dissident killed for saying thing Putin didn't like. Obama recalled a diplomat, you defend Putin the murderer.
Putin invades a neighbour, kills 10,000 plus people. Obama imposes sanctions, you defend Putin the murderer.
Putin hacks your elections, puts his puppet into power. Obama releases the details of the hack. You defend Putin the murderer.
This is a vague response. There are a lot of points that you could be trying to make here, none invalidate what I said above.
No, Anna Politkovskaya said things that upset Putin, and Putin hacked her emails and had her killed.
And Seth Rich was robbed and shot on his way home, and you pretend it was a big Hillary Clinton conspiracy and pretend he secretly revealed the DNC emails.
But we know how the DNC emails were obtains. The NSA details how the hack was done, it was not Seth as you wish it was, you are simply smearing a dead man for political talking point:
https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296A_GRIZZLY%20STEPPE-2016-1229.pdf
The hacked DNC emails were used as basis for propaganda, and the hacked RNC emails have been kept back for use later. And you want to defend Putin the murderer/hacker, because you view him as being Trump's boss, and you support Trump and so support Putin killing dissidents.
On this we agree, Putin is Trump's boss. Trump even quotes Putin like you'd quote your boss:
"Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump Dec 23: Vladimir Putin said today about Hillary and Dems: "In my opinion, it is humiliating. One must be able to lose with dignity." So true!"
When you defend "Trump' and attack 'Hillary' on every Putin story you are simply confirming what the opposition already knows, that Trump is a Putin puppet. And we're waiting to see how Trump tries to defend Putin's hack of the US election, I guess he has to wait for his talking points in co-ordination with the Russian propaganda planners.
It's about ports. Crimea goes back to WWII and the naughty document signed by Churchill.
Yes but he clearly took high school civics and referenced something he remembers from it in a snarky way, so you lose
stop trying to make "arguments" in which you present a thesis statement and support it with evidence and reasoning. so old. just call people idiots from now on ok?
But now it will take 100 years to undo the damage caused by Trump...
Ridiculous hyperbole. You're also wrong about both Bush and Obama; between the two idiots, they've managed to nearly bankrupt the US, corrupted the Executive, and have caused massive human displacement and now Western Civilization itself is in crisis.
Aside from starting a nuclear war, Trump simply cannot fuck up worse than his immediate predecessors.
You'll note *I* fairly presented all sides of the argument rather than posting a biased link - whereas YOU want us to believe one particular thing.
I merely lead people to research and decide what they think is correct.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
It's about ports. Crimea goes back to WWII and the naughty document signed by Churchill.
Ah, that makes sense. Doesn't make it necessarily right, but does make sense.
Irony: Agile development has too much intertia to be abandoned now.
You called presidents legislators, so I hate to break it to you but that IS invalid on its face as they are the leader of the *executive* branch, not the legislative branch. Just admit you made a mistake and mispoke. It isn't that hard to do. Really.
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
So? They can glorify brownshirts, they can own up to that. Backwater fucking retards.
What damage has been undone? And YOU have the gall to call anyone gullible? Obama is exactly as much as a piece of shit murderer as Bush was. You're basically arguing who of two murderers with an IQ of 30 has nicer shoes. Who gives a fuck?
The man hasn't been President for eight years now. . . . . . and folks are still blaming everything on him.
Fact of the matter is this: If Obama had really wanted to clean up the mess, he could have eradicated most of it with a stroke of his pen. The fact that he didn't bother speaks volumes.
It's hilarious how when Team Democrat has the ball and doesn't get anything done, it's all Team Republicans fault.
Yet, when Team Republican is in play and fails to deliver, it's still Team Republicans fault.
I wonder if anyone will ever realize that, while slightly different flavors, they're both the same incompetent team. :|
"deploying malicious software which is not available in the public domain"
What the heck does that mean? Does this mean the hacking tools don't have a GPL or similar license that grants free use? Or not commonly used by hackers? If these tools have been deployed to machines, I am sure someone has picked them up and modified them. It's like the "I Love You" worm. It was quickly modified by many.
But how many individuals has our government hacked, listened in on, and killed?
Oh, you weren't trying to make a point at all. Sure, okay. I thought you were going somewhere with that.
Yes, the president is not part of the legislative branch - I said that because I wanted to be inclusive of not just the president, but I should have said something like "elected official."
Well you can say we learnt our lesson.
Everything is republican now. All chain are off. Let's see what Trump can do for better or worse.
Well it is an exceedingly weak admission of your error, but at least you did finally admit it. Kudos to you! (Seriously, many people can't seem to do it)
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
Of course he was making a point, to whit you referred to presidents as legislators when they are in a completely different branch of the government.
It depends a lot on the Russian in question. E.g. this guy is Russian, and was a prominent militia commander for Donbass separatists for a while. Note the flag he's holding on the first photo.
So there's no more warrantless spying, drone killings and Guantanamo is closed?