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Snowden Doc Shows NSA Blamed Russia For Hack of Murdered Journalist (thehill.com)
The National Security Agency (NSA) knew that the Russian government hacked the email account of a prominent journalist the year before she was killed in Moscow, documents published by The Intercept show. The 2006 murder of longtime Kremlin critic Anna Politkovskaya -- who was gunned down in the elevator of her apartment complex -- is widely believed to have been a contract killing. Politkovskaya was a noted critic of Russian President Vladimir Putin, and it has long been suspected that the murder was carried out on his orders. From a report: The NSA compiled an internal file on Politkovskaya, which was exposed as part of the Edward Snowden leaks. Much of the document is unclassified and public, except for one top-secret segment: "Russian Federal Intelligence Services (probably FSB) are known to have targeted the webmail account of the murdered Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya," the passage reads. "On 5 December 2005, RFIS initiated an attack against the account annapolitkovskaia@US Provider1, deploying malicious software which is not available in the public domain. It is not known whether this attack is in any way associated with the death of the journalist."
I hope you're happy. You gullible morons have fucked us all.
It took 8 years to undo the damage caused by Bush. It might have taken another 8 years to undo the damage caused by Obama, if a sane conservative could have been found hiding under a rock somewhere and convinced to run for President. But now it will take 100 years to undo the damage caused by Trump... and that's without taking the half-lives of various fission products into account.
Good jorb.
Vladimir Putin is a clone of Hitler
Calling a Russian "Hitler" is probably a pretty good way to get your ass kicked.
Irony: Agile development has too much intertia to be abandoned now.
seems Obama wants to stir as much anti Russian sentiment as he can before he joins the trash heap and make it as difficult as possible for Trump. I am very much anti trump but what Obama and Co are doing at the moment is fucking appalling.
Snopes is a hardcore liberal site. If you think they're neutral I've got a bridge to sell you.
https://theintercept.com/2016/12/29/top-secret-snowden-document-reveals-what-the-nsa-knew-about-previous-russian-hacking/
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(TS//SI//REL TO USA, AUS, CAN, GBR, NZL) Russian Federal Intelligence Services (probably FSB) are known to have targeted the webmail account of the murdered Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya. On 5 December 2005, RFIS initiated an attack against the account annapolitkovskaia@US Provider1, by deploying malicious software which is not available in the public domain. It is not known whether this attack is in any way associated with the death of the journalist. [1]
What the NSA appears to know is that the Russians targeted the journalist's email account using malware that it believed was not in the public domain.
But teh internal wiki itself is a little problematic:
Unfortunately, in the case of this wiki there’s no indication of exactly what sort of SIGINT was collected with regard to Politkovskaya, or how it incriminated Russian intelligence — all we have is the allusion to the evidence, not the evidence. The NSA declined to comment.
TheHill article is terrible because it draws from alleged and unproven information produced by private security firms like Crowdstrike, assumes that information is factual, and then merges that with a sliver of NSA information coming from a internal wiki (!) that was released with the Snowden docs. You wanna see fake news? This is it.
Seriously Obama you are starting to make Trump look sane. The last thing the world needs is a new cold war, never thought I would say it but Trump can't come soon enough before you do any more damage, I can only assume you or your party has big financial interests that are not supported by friendly relations with Russia.
It took 8 years to undo the damage caused by Bush.
This just isn't accurate. We still have the TSA, we still have prisoners held without trial at Guantanamo Bay, we still have a Patriot Act (even though it isn't called the Patriot Act any more) and carte blanche spying on US citizens, we still have massive massive debt... The damage is most certainly not undone. This is Obama's greatest failure as president - he was elected pretty much with the sole purpose of undoing what Bush had done.
He managed to reduce it in some areas - there are fewer prisoners in Guantanamo Bay, the Patriot Act is marginally less bad than it was, the Bush tax cuts are mostly not bankrupting us anymore - but one cannot simply undo eight years of terrible legislation. You're right that we will be feeling the Trump administration 100 years from now, but we will still be feeling the Obama administration, the Bush administration, etc. Every legislator makes their mark, for good or ill, and when we vote we have to do so with the recognition that the decision we make is not a reversible one.
... that now owns the White House.
We are truly living in interesting times.
Well, after being a daily user of this website for almost 15 years I have to give it up. I took a break during the heat of the election season because the comment sections had gotten over heated and partisan. ... came back today to give it another chance and see the first comment in this thread...Oh well.
Thanks for the memories slashdot. Truely.
The intelligent discussions seem to have disappeared. Best wishes.
or roman like behavior... just being human is probably more like it.
i just read history and say meh, we have done worse.
Judging from American history I'd rather call it manifest destiny. I mean, the whole nation was built on stolen land and bones of natives.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
meh we have done worse, i hope to say the same at the end of Trumplethinskin's end of term
...Hillary is pretty similar to Putin then.
Gad we dodged THAT bullet!
Then Anna Politkovskaya is to Seth Rich what Vladimir Putin is to Hilary Clinton
Vladimir Putin is a clone of Hitler
Calling a Russian "Hitler" is probably a pretty good way to get your ass kicked.
Actually, the closest Russia got to a Hitler was Stalin, if you include Communists, and Ivan the Terrible, if you wanna look at the Tsarists
First, why not Stalin instead of Hitler? He arguably murdered more people over the course of his life - and even engaged in his own brand of ethnic slaughter.
Second, I'm just thinking that constant hyperbole means I don't have a clue what someone means when they compare a person to Hitler these days. Trump is regularly called "Hitler" or a "Nazi" too. So is Putin a real Hitler, intent on purging million of people and taking over the world, or a George Bush / Donald Trump type Hitler where you disagree with his policies or behavior, or somewhere in-between? Calling someone Hitler these days means absolutely nothing, because it's now a term used to describe anyone the left disagrees with.
For the record, I didn't see any justification for Putin to invade Ukraine. It's hard to make a judgment on Crimea, which seemed to have populations vying both ways in a power play, while stabilizing Syria does seem to at least coincide with their actual economic interests (and they're a hell of a lot closer to that region than we are). He could very well be a very dangerous man to his enemies, though obviously we only have suspicions of killings. This makes it hard to differentiate from a conspiracy theory, especially from such a distance away. Remember, a lot of people believe there are a string of suspicious deaths tied to the Clintons as well. He's going to be very difficult for the next US administration to deal with, but it seems we could hardly do worse than what's happened over the past few years short of getting caught up into another a shooting war.
Irony: Agile development has too much intertia to be abandoned now.
I gotta say that the level of anti-Russian xenophobia is continuing hitting ever higher levels of stupid. NSA alleges that somebody hacked into some journalists account.... 11 years ago. Shocking stuff.
Uhhhm .... You know the president isn't a legislator, right?
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
No real news here: as in many countries, domestic intelligence monitors opponents, and there is nothing more, as the classified stuff says:
It is not known whether this attack is in any way associated with the death of the journalist.
This is a vague response. There are a lot of points that you could be trying to make here, none invalidate what I said above.
No, Anna Politkovskaya said things that upset Putin, and Putin hacked her emails and had her killed.
And Seth Rich was robbed and shot on his way home, and you pretend it was a big Hillary Clinton conspiracy and pretend he secretly revealed the DNC emails.
But we know how the DNC emails were obtains. The NSA details how the hack was done, it was not Seth as you wish it was, you are simply smearing a dead man for political talking point:
https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296A_GRIZZLY%20STEPPE-2016-1229.pdf
The hacked DNC emails were used as basis for propaganda, and the hacked RNC emails have been kept back for use later. And you want to defend Putin the murderer/hacker, because you view him as being Trump's boss, and you support Trump and so support Putin killing dissidents.
On this we agree, Putin is Trump's boss. Trump even quotes Putin like you'd quote your boss:
"Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump Dec 23: Vladimir Putin said today about Hillary and Dems: "In my opinion, it is humiliating. One must be able to lose with dignity." So true!"
When you defend "Trump' and attack 'Hillary' on every Putin story you are simply confirming what the opposition already knows, that Trump is a Putin puppet. And we're waiting to see how Trump tries to defend Putin's hack of the US election, I guess he has to wait for his talking points in co-ordination with the Russian propaganda planners.
You'll note *I* fairly presented all sides of the argument rather than posting a biased link - whereas YOU want us to believe one particular thing.
I merely lead people to research and decide what they think is correct.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
It's about ports. Crimea goes back to WWII and the naughty document signed by Churchill.
Ah, that makes sense. Doesn't make it necessarily right, but does make sense.
Irony: Agile development has too much intertia to be abandoned now.
The man hasn't been President for eight years now. . . . . . and folks are still blaming everything on him.
Fact of the matter is this: If Obama had really wanted to clean up the mess, he could have eradicated most of it with a stroke of his pen. The fact that he didn't bother speaks volumes.
It's hilarious how when Team Democrat has the ball and doesn't get anything done, it's all Team Republicans fault.
Yet, when Team Republican is in play and fails to deliver, it's still Team Republicans fault.
I wonder if anyone will ever realize that, while slightly different flavors, they're both the same incompetent team. :|
"deploying malicious software which is not available in the public domain"
What the heck does that mean? Does this mean the hacking tools don't have a GPL or similar license that grants free use? Or not commonly used by hackers? If these tools have been deployed to machines, I am sure someone has picked them up and modified them. It's like the "I Love You" worm. It was quickly modified by many.
But how many individuals has our government hacked, listened in on, and killed?
Oh, you weren't trying to make a point at all. Sure, okay. I thought you were going somewhere with that.
Yes, the president is not part of the legislative branch - I said that because I wanted to be inclusive of not just the president, but I should have said something like "elected official."
It depends a lot on the Russian in question. E.g. this guy is Russian, and was a prominent militia commander for Donbass separatists for a while. Note the flag he's holding on the first photo.