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How Russia Recruited Elite Hackers For Its Cyberwar (nypost.com)

Lasrick quotes a report from The New York Times (Warning: source may be paywalled; alternate source): For more than three years, rather than rely on military officers working out of isolated bunkers, Russian government recruiters have scouted a wide range of programmers, placing prominent ads on social media sites, offering jobs to college students and professional coders, and even speaking openly about looking in Russia's criminal underworld for potential talent. From the New York Post: "Russia's Defense Ministry bought advertising on Vkontakta, the country's most popular social media site, to lure those who were more talented with a keyboard than an AK-47 rifle. 'If you graduated from college, if you are a technical specialist, if you are ready to use your knowledge, we give you an opportunity,' the ad promised, according to the Times. The ad went on to assure recruits that they would be part of units called science squadrons based at military installations where they would live in 'comfortable accommodation' and showed an apartment outfitted with a washing machine, the Times reported. The Defense Ministry even dangled the chance to dodge Russia's mandatory draft by allowing university students to join a science squadron instead and then questioned them about their proficiency with programming languages, the report said."

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  1. What cyberwar? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Someone managed to get access to someone else's email account? EPIC HACKZ0ring!

    1. Re:What cyberwar? by Narcocide · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's curious that the security of the WWW is not addressed by those who could do something about it.

      The problem is, the people whose job it is to do this, they decided to side with the hackers.

  2. Fake news by ArchieBunker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So is this fake news or not?

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    1. Re:Fake news by wasted · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't know if I would call it fake, but I wouldn't call it news. I have no reason not to believe that the NSA and other government agencies recruit top talent in important fields from college, and I would expect agencies from other countries to recruit top talent in important fields from their colleges.

  3. Hypocracy by Zemran · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A country that regularly invades other country to force a change in government gets its panties in a twist over a theory that someone might have taken an interest in their election. The US does this all the time.

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    1. Re:Hypocracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      A country that regularly invades other country to force a change in government gets its panties in a twist over a theory that someone might have taken an interest in their election.

      Correction. President Obama and his fellow sore losers in the Democratic Party got their collective panties in a twist because they lost to Donald Trump. As an American it doesn't surprise me at all that Russia wants to meddle in our affairs. We need a much tougher man in the White House and it's my hope that Trump will be that tougher man. Obama always struck me as too fawning and effete to be effective in a world inhabited by the likes of Vladimir Putin and Bashar Al-Assad. In my opinion, Dean Acheson, the US Secretary of State from 1949 to 1953, put it best when he said that, "The Soviet understands only one language, action, and respects only one word, force." Unfortunately, we have forgotten those hard won lessons of the first Cold War and the rule of our nation has been given over to lesser men, like President Obama. Now we need a President with some moxie, like Donald Trump, to restore America to her rightful place of power in world affairs.

    2. Re:Hypocracy by Noishkel · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I for one never imaged I'd live to see another red scare come out of a bunch of bhutt hurt liberal media shills. But then again I never thought I'd see the DNC get so low that they'd allow the most corrupt politician in American history be their front runner either.

      Honestly I don't know how you liberals sleep with yourselves at night. Just forget about Trump for a moment. Look at how bad the DNC has come apart thanks to this election. How many times they they have to complete restaff the committee because of internal corruption. And yeah. Some Russian person, either as a state operative or some fake porn site script kiddie, got into your system. We can all agree on that. But they did was released just how absolutely full to the brim with internal corruption the DNC is! Why is that more important than how you all found out about it? You can be mad at BOTH the Russian as the DNC itself. Why is that just your focus?

    3. Re:Hypocracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Oh yeah, wikipedia, certainly they have maintained a chain of evidence. Oh I get it "everybody knows".

    4. Re:Hypocracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A country that regularly invades other country to force a change in government gets its panties in a twist over a theory that someone might have taken an interest in their election.

      Correction. President Obama and his fellow sore losers in the Democratic Party got their collective panties in a twist because they lost to Donald Trump. As an American it doesn't surprise me at all that Russia wants to meddle in our affairs. We need a much tougher man in the White House and it's my hope that Trump will be that tougher man. Obama always struck me as too fawning and effete to be effective in a world inhabited by the likes of Vladimir Putin

      Okay, let me get this straight. Your completely ignoring the fact that the result of a national election was dictated by a foreign country in favor of a cheap shot against democrats? Seriously? Is this what passes for patriotism? The election was close. Months of stolen emails did hurt them considerably, and no there was nothing there that might not have been worse from the other side.

      Also, you want a tough guy, you know like Trump who appears to be all but ready to molest Putin with how much praise he heaps on him? That is your tough guy? Seriously?

      Obama stands up to the guy who attacked us and does what he can. Trump says, thank you, your such a wonderful awesome special and misunderstood man. We are talking about the guy who has a record of lead filled enemies and who has invaded at least the one country, not to mention has helped Assad murder his own people. Link That Putin?

      I don't know, maybe Trump is afraid Putin will put some polonium in his Cheerios. That or call his bank loan due.

      The only evidence I see about Obama maybe being weak on this was he didn't hit Putin harder before during the election because Mitch McConnell threated to cry about it. That may have been a little weak, and in hindsight stupid, but that is a tempest in a teacup to how spineless Trump has been. I seriously begin to wonder if he really is Donald J Puppet.

  4. Interesting, but entry-level programmers, not elit by raymorris · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's mildly interesting. As is normally the case, the article points out that the headline is bullshit. College students? That's where you find entry-level programmers, not "elite hackers". Nothing wrong with that, of course, you can train an entry-level programmer to damage computing systems just as readily as you can train them to build secure systems.

    There are a few elite hackers, people who really understand the low-leveling functioning of the system, who write the payloads in assembler. Those elite ones, who write assembler, tend to be older more often than they are college kids. College kids tend to *use* the tools written by the older, more experienced and "elite" hackers.

  5. Hypocrisy at its finest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    because don't pretend the U.S. has not done this for a decade or more. Russia (and China) has got _nothing_ on the U.S. when it comes to staging a cyberwar on the world, as the NSA revelations have proven. This NYT article is a case of the Fake News you've been hearing about.

  6. Re:Obama's still crying after his embarrassing los by lucm · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Obama, what an asshole. He gladly breaks the tradition of lame ducks not rocking the boat. He antagonizes Israel at the UN and now tries to declare war on Russia. What's next? Invade Ireland to seize Apple's cash, then nuke North Korea?

    What an awful president. Good riddance.

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  7. A washing machine? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The ad went on to assure recruits that they would be part of units called science squadrons based at military installations where they would live in 'comfortable accommodation' and showed an apartment outfitted with a washing machine, the Times reported.

    Wait a minute, you mean the President Elect chose to pimp out the US to a country that has to recruit tech talent with the promise of a fucking washing machine? A country that's sitting on untold natural resources but has an economy smaller than that of Spain?

    Jesus, Trump should have at least held out for China. We might have actually gotten something out of that deal.

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  8. Real Story, Fake Narrative by Nova+Express · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm sure the Russian government recruits computer talent in the many ways listed in the article. I would suspect the U.S. government does much the same.

    The fake part comes in: Why publish this piece now? Why not, say, during the massive OPM breach?

    Simple: Publishing it during the OPM breach would have harmed Obama, whom the New York Times and it's employees almost universally adore, while publishing it now helps prop up the false narrative that the Russians were behind the DNC leaks, not a disgruntled Democratic Party insider, and thus supposedly harms President-elect Donald Trump, whom the New York Times and it's employees almost universally loath.

    Remember, among the revelations to come out just after the election were how the Times abandoned objectivity to go after Trump and how the entire newsroom is dedicated to driving a predetermined narrative rather than carrying out an objective search for truth.

    This story was published because it fits an (unproven and probably false) narrative that Russia "hacked the election" because it theoretically harms Trump.

    Further reading here and here.

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  9. She Devil by bob4u2c · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Every time I hear the news try to pin the blame of the election results on "Russian Hackers" I can't help thinking of that scene in She Devil. The one where Bob is meeting with his lawyers who advise him to claim that hackers broke into his computer and committed the fraud knowing they will get the easy judge, but instead the judges are switched and it back fires on him.

    The whole thing smells to high heaven. Take the warnings by the FBI to the DNC. If they knew the hacks were going on, then they must have had some monitoring agents already installed (at the ISP or locally) which tipped them off, or they were the ones carrying out the attacks running them through Russian nodes to conceal the source and keep plausible denial ability.

    Seriously though, She lost, move on DNC and stop trying to start a war over this.

  10. I see why you are confused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Okay, let me get this straight. Your completely ignoring the fact that the result of a national election was dictated by a foreign country in favor of a cheap shot against democrats?"

    WHERE do you get this garbage?

    THERE is NO evidence that the result of the election was "dictated by a foreign country"!!!!! Hillary Clinton's campaign idiot, John Podesta, stupidly responded to a phishing e-mail and in doing so handed over the access to his e-mail account to SOME HACKER located SOMEWHERE ON EARTH. Apparently, the unknown hacker then grabbed Podesta's e-mails and handed them to Wikileaks. There's a plausible report that even this phishing attack was not even the source of the Wikileaks info and that it was provided by a Democrat insider, possibly an annoyed Bernie supporter. IF this phishing attack affected the election, then what you are saying is that it was very unfair for the American people to find out the truths about Hillary and her team that were exposed and that by your reckoning the American people should have remained ignorant and been tricked into supporting Hillary (THAT would have been the electionhack the Democrats intended).

    You Hillary supporters are just getting pathetic at this point - there's now a poll showing half of the Democrats think Putin hacked the voting machines (something even Obama says is impossible). It's just like you people who think Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her House; Palin NEVER said it, the words were said on SNL by Tina Fey who was impersonating Palin. If left-wing media outlets repeat a lie often enough, it appears that fact-starved bubble-occupying liberals will believe the lie.

    Answer this: IF Obama knew Putin was hacking the election over the past year-and-a-half, then why did he do NOTHING to stop the hacks or punish the Russians until now, just before leaving office and after supposedly letting Hillary lose to the Russian hackers???? Obama theoretically has NSA people snooping on all net traffic and e-mails etc, so SURELY he could have detected it and defended the Democrat party from a simple phishing attack and SURELY he must have iron-clad proof of all the hack traffic and should have known exactly where all the hack traffic was coming from and going to. If you are right that Putin "hacked the election" then why did the most powerful man on Earth (Obama) let him do it????

    Another Question: You Hillbots keep insisting Trump is Putin's puppet... where is any shred of evidence for this? Trump has certainly called Putin "smart", but if you Democrats are right that Putin hacked the election, then you agree that Putin is smarter than Obama. Trump has certainly said he disagrees with Putin's agenda but that Putin is a better leader than Obama, but this was a slam on the poor leadership of Obama and is certainly true if you consider who is getting more results from his efforts to lead his respective nation. Remember that Hillary actually enabled Putin to grab a big chunk of America's Uranium capacity and that her campaign boy Podesta is a registered lobbyist for Putin's banker...

  11. I heart hypocrisy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hey guys, did you hear Russia is hacking the US? "No big deal, it's probably just propaganda" Hey guys, did you hear Hillary didn't secure her e-mail server? "OMG SHE'S THE DEVIL SEND HER TO PRISON FOR TREASON!" I love watching you morons try to justify your way out of your own stupidity.