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Washington Post Retracts Story About Russian Hackers Penetrating US Electricity Grid (washingtonpost.com)

Those anonymous U.S. officials who reported Russian hacking code had been found "within the system" of a Vermont power utility must've been surprised to learn the code was on a laptop that wasn't actually connected to the grid. The Washington Post has updated their original story, which now reports that "authorities" say there's no indication that Russian hackers have penetrated the U.S. electric grid.

The Post's newly-edited version now appears below (with their original and now-deleted text preseved inside brackets). A code associated with the Russian hacking operation dubbed Grizzly Steppe by the Obama administration has been detected within the system of a Vermont utility, according to U.S. officials. While the Russians did not actively use the code to disrupt operations of the utility, according to officials who spoke on condition of anonymity in order to discuss a security matter, the discovery underscores the vulnerabilities of the nation's electrical grid... [Was "the penetration of the nation's electrical grid is significant because it represents a potentially serious vulnerability."]

American officials, including one senior administration official, said they are not yet sure what the intentions of the Russians might have been. The incursion [was "penetration"] may have been designed to disrupt the utility's operations or as a test by the Russians to see whether they could penetrate a portion of the grid... According to the report by the FBI and DHS, the hackers involved in the Russian operation used fraudulent emails that tricked their recipients into revealing passwords.

The Vermont utility does report that they'd "detected suspicious Internet traffic" on the laptop, but they believe subsequent news coverage got the story wrong. "It's unfortunate that an official or officials improperly shared inaccurate information with one media outlet, leading to multiple inaccurate reports around the country."

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  1. Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Here we go again. This reminds me of a boy, a boy who loved to cry wolf.

    1. Re:Meh by unixisc · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Here we go again. This reminds me of a boy, a boy who loved to cry wolf.

      Precisely. After a year of troll articles about Trump, /. has now become Russia Watch. In addition to a meteorological site. Fuck BeauHD, MSMASH, EditorDavid and WhipSlash. I joined this the day after CmdrTaco left, but the articles used to be about tech stuff - be it OSs, computers, phones, et al

    2. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I've noticed that this forum is being overrun by republican and russian operatives; I hope I'm not the only one.

    3. Re:Meh by INT_QRK · · Score: 5, Insightful

      One should assume a posture of tentative disbelief about anything with potential political charge that one reads in the media pending sufficient corroboration from multiple sources over time.

    4. Re: Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Obama didn't say any of this, the entire US intel establishment did, including CIA, FBI, DHS, NSA weighed in briefly but it's not their bailiwic, etc. Obama mentioned what all of them said, that specific malware linked to GRU was used both to track Ukraine artillery assets/units and hack DNC/GOP machines.

      If Republicans have no need to learn to read, 2017 will continue being confusing to them. Quelle surprise. Stupid bitches, every last one. Yes, I call you stupid bitches when you act like stupid bitches.

      You don't have to like Obama, you don't have to trust him. Trusting Trump against the entire US intel establishment is where retards like you earn your stripes.

    5. Re: Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      You're not. It's become so blatantly Republican/Russian (Republissian?) that I come to this site to see what the Trump-camp talking points are for any given situation.

    6. Re:Meh by unixisc · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So this would be the same people who endorse Obama/Kerry's treatment of our only Mid-Eastern ally Israel on their way out, but are miffed that Trump supporters are not being patriotic enough?

    7. Re:Meh by unixisc · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not for not knowing how to use e-mails, but for maintaining her OFFICIAL WORK ON A PRIVATE SERVER, CRETIN!!!

    8. Re:Meh by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Republicans like me have been here a long time. There just didn't used to be so many political stories here on Slashdot.

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    9. Re: Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hey genius, if you didn't fucking notice (and you didn't), all they did was copy the Crowdstrike report. And guess what, Crowdstrike was paid by the DNC.

    10. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      We've been pulled into an alternate universe where the liberals are war mongering sociopaths who justify their actions with fake news while complaining about fake news.

      Please 2017 hurry up.

  2. Tit for tat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You can't use your NSA to break in, spy, and sabotage industries, utilities, and governments, around the world. If you conduct malicious and damaging operations like you have for decades, expect that the world will respond.

    1. Re:Tit for tat by Ryanrule · · Score: 3, Insightful

      russia does not represent the worlds interests, very far from in fact.

    2. Re:Tit for tat by beelsebob · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nor does the USA.

    3. Re:Tit for tat by ScentCone · · Score: 1, Insightful

      People who can't muster the vertebrae to correctly observe that the US's general posture in the world is wildly preferable to Russia's are the sort of people who, on display, just cost the Democrats another large chunk of political power. If the US stops what they traditionally do, countries like Russian and Iran invade other countries and take them over. If Russia stops what it's doing, cities like Aleppo aren't turned into rubble through indiscriminate bombing by a country that wishes it could resurrect some good old fashioned socialist tyranny, just like the sweet, sweet days of the USSR. If Iran stops what it's doing, thousands of people aren't routinely killed over hair-splitting religious differences by a retrograde medieval theocracy that pours cash into terrorist operations. Yeah, the US is exactly like those things.

      And yet if someone even TALKS about expecting other countries to carry fair weight in organizations like NATO, then the US is suddenly evil for not being willing to deal with everything. Do you really think that the world would be a better place if the US simply disengaged across the board? Should Japan and Korea be the only entities in the front line dealing with China's territorial expansionism?

      Never mind. Your instinct for moral relativism means the entire topic isn't worth addressing.

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    4. Re: Tit for tat by ScentCone · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Where's the redundancy that protects the world if something happens to the USA?

      Excellent question. Why won't other countries agree to shoulder anything at all like their own share of that load? Because Americans are far too generous that way, but do it anyway because not doing so means having to deal with the even more expensive consequences later. We can't totally wash our hands of that chore, no matter how lazy other countries are, because it will end up just like the last two world wars when we hoped to avoid that expensive and deadly work for too long as well, and still had to get involved.

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    5. Re:Tit for tat by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So what you're saying is that you have no understanding of what morals and ethics actually are. No wonder you opt for sounding so petulant on the subject, in order to distract from your unwillingness to discuss the matter in real terms.

      Your moral framework derives directly from your value system. If your value system is based on false and or mixed premises, your moral code will either be objectively evil or simply so internally hypocritical and contradictory that it cannot be used to shape a workable bundle of ethics. If you think that living in another country where the environment is different means that one's evaluation of whether or not it's OK to (for example) murder, rape, steal, enslave, lie, etc would be different, then your entire understanding of the matter is so under (or mal) informed, or you are so willing to be disingenuous in the interests of being able to sound like a condescending superior, that you really should excuse yourself from making such lectures. Especially when you decide to trot out words like "cowards" while making such a craven display of your own.

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    6. Re:Tit for tat by richardkettle4 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      wow.. false moral premises? Really? Show me one. Murder, Rape, Steal are wrong by definition, but Kill, marital right, appropriate are not, why is that? And you do not realise that ethics are rule based and dogmatic and morals not? I

    7. Re:Tit for tat by king+neckbeard · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Our posture is fucking horrific. We support Israel even when they blatantly violate international law. We've long sided with Saudi Arabia, the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism. We overthrew Iraq, creating ISIS. We're largely responsible for arming a good chunk of the terrorists in the world. Yeah, Russia does shitty things, but our problems are big enough that our first concern should be fixing our own problems. Not understand that, along with the unbelievable hubris of the Clintonites, is why the Democrats got their asses kicked in this election, and why they've been getting their asses kicked for so long.

      As it stands right now, the best thing that could happen for world peace is for the US to go down in flames. I would rather that not happen, but if we listen to people like you instead of behaving like adults, the rational choice for the world at large is to get rid of us.

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    8. Re:Tit for tat by rubycodez · · Score: 1, Insightful

      the USA has invaded a country that didn't attack it and was no threat to it, causing the death of hundreds of thousands of innocents and caused the creation of ISIS/ISIL with its ham fisted stupidity.

      Tthat country was friend of the USA, and so the USA gave it's leader Saddam money and dual use tech to make bioweapons that killed tens of thosands.

      Elsewhere in the world,t he CIA of the USA destabilized another country, and so certain ethnic Russians in an area of that country voted to rejoin Russia.

      Who is the aggressor in the world? who destabilizes entire regions?

      You are the spineless one, being a shill for the evil of your country's government, imagining that is "patriotism"

    9. Re:Tit for tat by blind+biker · · Score: 3, Insightful

      People who can't muster the vertebrae to correctly observe that the US's general posture in the world is wildly preferable to Russia's are the sort of people who, on display, just cost the Democrats another large chunk of political power. If the US stops what they traditionally do, countries like Russian and Iran invade other countries and take them over. If Russia stops what it's doing, cities like Aleppo aren't turned into rubble through indiscriminate bombing by a country that wishes it could resurrect some good old fashioned socialist tyranny, just like the sweet, sweet days of the USSR. If Iran stops what it's doing, thousands of people aren't routinely killed over hair-splitting religious differences by a retrograde medieval theocracy that pours cash into terrorist operations. Yeah, the US is exactly like those things.

      Actually, I would say it's Sunni Islam that is hell-bent on destroying any other religion, including "incompatible" versions of Islam. Whenever there is a suicide or otherwise bombing targeting civilians, whenever there is a church, a bar, or a mosque bombed or shot up, it's the work of a Sunni extremist, and practically never of a Shia Islamist. Personally I am a socialist atheist (much like Hitchens) so I don't have any horse in the race, but to me it's plainly clear that the US has been supporting Saudi Arabia quite aggressively, and the US' destabilizing actions in Syria, Yemen, Lybia and Iraq (resulting in the proliferation of Sunni movements like ISIS and various Al-Quaeda affiliates) must have been, at least partly, been directed by the powers in the Saudi kingdom. If not, then the US are dangerous suckers, and either way, the US' foreign policy does not make the world a better place. I don't like Russia's self-serving leadership, but I am glad there is a counter-force to the Wahabi-Sunni-US block.

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    10. Re:Tit for tat by Highdude702 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      My question... DID EVERYBODY FORGET ABOUT THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY CALLED "PROXY" WHERE YOU CAN TUNNEL YOUR TRAFFIC THRU A LEGIT OR... GET THIS..HACKED DEVICES!!! yes that includes your refrigerator home camera system, hell even some home alarm systems are vulnurable. for being "nerds" and knowing how "technology" works you sure do forget obvious steps to hide your tracks.. and lets face it. USA hacker hacks kremlin pc, ssh tunnel traffic to it. hacks podesta "THE RUSSIANS DID IT!!" fucking morons

    11. Re: Tit for tat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Generous, my ass! America acts only in and only for America's interests. They screw over over countries for American corporate and political power. Look to Central America or the Middle East to see what they have done. America is anything but a saint.

  3. has to be asked by jmccue · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why is infrastructure on the public Internet ? It is not like the internet existed when most of the US electric grid was 'designed' and built. It worked quite well for 70 or so years without the internet. And I will say I have experienced more blackouts over the past 10 years than I did in total before 1990.

  4. OH NOES! IT'S THE RUSSIANS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    1980's are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back

    "Gov. Romney, I'm glad you recognize al-Qaeda is a threat, because a few months ago when you were asked what is the biggest geopolitical group facing America, you said Russia — not al-Qaeda. And the 1980's are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back — because the Cold War has been over for 20 years.

    So, which is it?

  5. Hey look! It's another MSM Russian Hacking Story! by Nova+Express · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Security experts have been warning of possible foreign hacking for decades. But why this sudden spate of "Russia hacked X" stories now? Why not back when our Secretary of State was running an illegal, private, unsecured email server through which she transmitted classified information?

    Simple: The Washington Post wanted Hillary to win the Presidential election, and reminding people how her action made it easier for Russian hackers to gain access to classified information wouldn't have helped her. But publishing it now helps support the false narrative that the Russians were behind the DNC leaks, not disgruntled Democratic Party staffers, and thus supposedly harms President-elect Donald Trump, whom the Washington Post and it's employees almost universally loath. That's the entire reason the story is being written and published now.

    Further reading here and here.

    What do you think the under/over is for MSM "Russian Hacking" stories between now and January 20?

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  6. Re:1 laptop, not connected to the grid by Imrik · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't think they're an arm of the government, they're just creating stories that will sell/get clicks. Clever government officials have figured out how to release information that will cause the story they want out to be the one written.

  7. Re:OH NOES! IT'S THE RUSSIANS by Frank+Burly · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Russia is still not an existential threat to anyone but her former client states. This isn't a problem that Romney's larger Navy would have solved (and I'm surprised that Russian nationals and domestic rightists are so offended by this throwaway zinger 4 years later). But in retrospect, Obama underestimated Russia's guile. Rather than do catastrophic harm to the United States, Russia (like Al Queda) has done minor harm that led the United States do major harm to itself (the Iraq war, Trump).

  8. Re:Too many lies already by HornWumpus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Internal propaganda for the Democrats. Trying to prevent cynicism from setting in, but only working for the very dumbest most indoctrinated of them.

    Seriously this was one laptop with some malware, found by a routine virus scan. It's the Washington Post, no credibility left except with the poor snowflakes that need to be constantly fed a reassuring yet terrifying narrative.

    The worst thing about these kinds of efforts, it leaves the Democrats with their army of chanting morons, but those with two working brain cells still fall away. It will serve as its own punishment.

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  9. Evaluate the U.S. government? No, too many secrets by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "... the US's general posture in the world is wildly preferable..."

    The U.S. government has many secret and semi-secret agencies. No one, literally no one, knows all of them, or which are badly managed. As we've seen, the secret and semi-secret U.S. government agencies often hire outside consulting companies that often have areas of sloppy management.

    The U.S. government is, by some measures, such as money spent, the most violent in the world.

    The U.S. government has killed, or caused the death of, an estimated 11,000,000 people since the end of the 2nd world war.

    War is extremely profitable for some corporations. See the book, House of Bush, House of Saud, by Craig Unger. Bush and Cheney started a war that was profitable for them.

    The U.S. has the largest percentage of its citizens in prison, of any country, in any century. The prison system is hugely profitable for prison corporations. Two of the many articles:

    ACLU: With only 5% of the world's population, the U.S. has 25% of the world's prison population.

    ThinkProgress: The United States Has The Largest Prison Population In The World -- And It's Growing.

  10. Re:No Grid Penetration by colin_faber · · Score: 2, Insightful

    CNN ceased being a credible news organization after the wikileaks revolutions

  11. Re: No Grid Penetration by Entrope · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Your CNN link consistently describes the infection as affecting only a single laptop that was not connected to the systems that control the electric grid. Did CNN change the story since you linked to it?

  12. Re: More slashdot fake news by cshark · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Fact is Trump made a deal with Putin. Win me the election and will sanctions.

    No, that's not a fact. It's pure conjecture.

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  13. Re: More slashdot fake news by haruchai · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Fact is Trump made a deal with Putin. Win me the election and will sanctions.

    No, that's not a fact. It's pure conjecture.

    Don't we now live in a post-fact world? WSJ editor-in-chief Gerard Baker says that stories will *not* call Trump a liar as this is "too partisan" but will merely investigate his claims and post those stories separately for readers to make up their own minds.
    However, the WSJ has had no qualms in labeling Edward Snowden a liar in several stories.

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  14. Re:Making molly by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hey Editor David, instead of covering up your ignorant original posting of this article by changing the headline with no explanation, how about just posting a new article. Now people are confused at comments below pointing out the erroneous headline which should have never been put here to begin with if you'd just tried a little to validate it.

  15. Don't think like a hacker. Think like a spy. by hey! · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you were out to cripple the US electric grid, would you really start with an office computer in small municipal power company (fewer than 20000 customers) in the middle of nowhere?

    Why not? You have to start somewhere, and the best place to start is often where people assume is not a good place to start. When Israeli and US intelligence decided to take down Iran's air-gapped uranium centrifuges, they started with the least likely entry point imaginable: they infected the whole damned world, hoping that eventually Stuxnet would get to a machine used to program the PLCs in Iran's centrifuge controllers. And it worked.

    In comparison office machines in a minor utility are practically a surgical strike on US electricity infrastructure. Or possibly the start of one.

    The path to success in attacking a hard target is full of dead ends. But that wouldn't deter a national intelligence agency. This was a case of sloppy reporting -- jumping to conclusions. But if the malicious code was put on an electric utility machine by Russian intelligence you have to assume that the grid is at least one of their ultimate targets. Intelligence agencies are willing to spend years infiltrating and undermining organizations if the payoff is large enough.

    So while this was not the hair-on-fire situation it was portrayed as, it's not a "meh" situation either. This is something people should take seriously.

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  16. Government please save us by frovingslosh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When will the Government start shutting down Fake News sites like the Washington Post?

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  17. Moronic by s.petry · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're not. It's become so blatantly Republican/Russian (Republissian?) that I come to this site to see what the Trump-camp talking points are for any given situation.

    Just like leftist media, you are attempting to slander people because you can't win the argument. Democrats ran a horrible candidate, much worse than the Republican. Russia did not make the Democratic party push Hillary into the mix, behave questionably (at best) even with their own party members, to prop her up as the candidate. The Democratic party did this all on their own, and it failed. Pick a better candidate, a better platform, and try again next election.

    Republicans, even Trump, is not for Russia, and your conflation makes you just as bad as CNN or any other crap media outlet spreading BS because their "chosen" candidate lost. Republicans like America, and just like Democrats of a couple decades ago, push for Americanism. The ideology being pushed by Trump matches much of Kennedy and other Democrats and Republicans. Peace through Strength is not a Trump thing. Negotiating with countries we are not necessarily friendly with is also not a Trump thing (Look at President Obama for pity sake). Populism and Nationalism are centuries old ideologies.

    Now, as to why so many people here are now "Republican", at least in leanings, has much to do with age. The older people get, the more they tend to be conservative in their political views. The Democratic candidate, and the media handling of her, probably accelerated countless people into the Republican camp. That, and the fear most Republicans have of posting in public has been largely diminshed.

    It's really a shame that instead of having dialogue and being accountable, the Democratic party and media simply slander everyone who disagrees with them. You AC, are included in that shameful act.

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  18. Re:More slashdot fake news by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Fine, we can call it what it really was, which was political propaganda. How else do you explain that a single laptop getting infected with malware gets elevated to the level of national news?

    And no, this wasn't a simple mistake. A simple mistake is getting a name or peripheral fact incorrect, and we can forgive that so long as corrections are made, because we're all human, and all make mistakes. Rather, the entire premise to the original story was shown to be false, but the story still remains in almost its entirety. Not a single call to Burlington Electric was made prior to publishing... the simplest, most basic fact checking you'd expect of a professional journalist or organization. Quite simply, this was journalistic malpractice. Only one of two possibilities seem likely - either the WaPo organization is simply incompetent and doesn't understand how to do proper journalism, or they rushed the story out because they had their eye on a political narrative they wanted to push, and facts be damned, this couldn't wait. This is not the first time they've been caught doing this either, when they promoted an absurd "fake news blacklist" with questionable sources a bit over a month ago.

    Even some thoughtful left-leaning journalists are having a hard time swallowing these latest reports about Russian hacking, as they're all too aware of how governments are perfectly willing to lie when it suits their purpose (on both sides, mind you). All I ask is that you look at these reports through the lens of a skeptic, and ask why these stories are getting pushed to the front of the newsfeed. And what has changed so that so many people are willing to believe our three letter agencies without question, when they've been caught in lie after lie after lie these past many years? Why the change in heart when it comes to these Russian hacking reports, and subsequent stories that seem to neatly dovetail into that line?

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