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Google's AlphaGo AI Secretively Won More Than 50 Straight Games Against World's Top Go Players (qz.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Quartz: When Google's artificial intelligence program AlphaGo made history by taking down Korea's Lee Sedol -- one of the world's best Go players -- in a landslide 4-1 victory in March, Chinese player Ke Jie was skeptical. He famously wrote on Weibo the next day, "Even if AlphaGo can defeat Lee Sedol, it can't beat me," and has since agreed to take on the AI at an undecided time. But now even Ke, the reigning top-ranked Go player, has acknowledged that human beings are no match for robots in the complex board game, after he lost three games to an AI that mysteriously popped up online in recent days. The AI turned out to be AlphaGo in disguise. On Jan. 4, after winning more than 50 games against several of the world's best Go players, Ke included, a user registered with an ID of "Master" on two Chinese board game platforms came forward to identify itself as AlphaGo. "I'm AlphaGo's Doctor Huang," the user "Master" wrote on foxwq.com, according to screenshots from Chinese media reports. Taiwanese developer Aja Huang is a member of Google's DeepMind team behind the AI. Since Dec. 29, Master has defeated a long list of top Go players including Korea's Park Jung-hwan (world No. 3), Japan's Iyama Yuta (No. 5) and Ke in fast-paced games. He won 51 games straight before his 52nd rival, Chen Yaoye, went offline, forcing the game to be recorded as a tie. By Jan. 4 when the test was completed, Master had racked up 60 wins, plus the one tie, and zero loss, according to numerous reports (link in Chinese).
When will Google make an AlphaMale AI/robot?
He won 51 games straight before his 52nd rival, Chen Yaoye, went offline, forcing the game to be recorded as a tie.
So the only way to win is not to play.
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I'm waiting for the AI Rust players.
I should use this sig to advertise my book ISBN-13 : 978-1501515132.
When I was a kid 30 years ago, I would have thought that technology would allow us to have an 8 hour work week and food for all. Instead, we see the smartest people one Earth (debatable), playing games and masturbating their brains on truly futile pursuits.
Great job, STEM people.
Don't forget; the Master Control Program started off as a chess program. Remember Encom!
Sorry for the off topic post but does the 'most discussed' featured article on /. Not include the -1 comments? As that's all this one is filled with...
http://m.slashdot.org/story/320807
An official confirmation from Demis Hassabis, a co-founder of DeepMind.
Why aren't you building flying cars yet?
... just go offline and they can't get you.
What are the ethics of testing AI on human subjects without their consent or knowledge? (how far would such a test go... e.g. bringing human subjects to tears maybe, maybe suicide?).
I'll be impressed when you write an AI that can competently play Civ5.
I'm not really sure if it's a more difficult problem than Go or not (I'd think so with all of the decisions to be made), but holy hell is the shipped AI in all Civ games useless.
This is not AI, simply because the rules of Go were programmed into the computer to start with. If it had to figure out the rules and the idea of winning by itself then that would be amazing...
However it was taught what a good move is by some point or similar system, that's hardly self learning....
One - take the damn political tripe elsewhere; there are plenty of other threads or sites for that shite.
Two- it's not "fake news", it's PROPAGANDA. Call it what it is.
"He won 51 games straight before his 52nd rival, Chen Yaoye, went offline, forcing the game to be recorded as a tie."
Typical rage quit after getting rekt, ruining the game for everyone involved.
There was some question of if it was a fluke against Sedol, now it's confirmed that machine has bested man at Go. First Chess, now Go. I'm wondering where the goalposts will be moved to now.
I can imagine some kind of Turing test where a woman converses with two suitors, and has to choose which to go on a date with; one is a man, the other a machine (cue the jokes). Lines of dialogue used to have to be pre-programmed, but with all the deep learning that modern AI can do, with access to project gutenberg/wikipedia/etc. it can certainly adlib believable and consistent dialogue. Traditional Turing tests tend to be 'won' by machines when the human is too much of a jerk, or when the machine is indistinguishable from a developmentally-challenged human; have a suave man (e.g. amateur standup comedian) competing against a machine that can't get away with pretending to be an idiot, and you'll have a more intriguing competition.
Next step: make an AI that can automatically shut down trolls and fools with citations and deconstructions of illogical statements, and deploy it on every forum and comment section. Please.
Corruption is convincing someone that the selfless ideal is the same as their selfish ideal.
So just any anonymous doofus can go on a website and play against the world's top players? Interesting...
... but now that he's elected, the guy they hired to act as their "candidate face" - based on AI-authored tweets and speeches - refuses to drop out of his role and will actually rule the US. Google's programmers meanwhile are frustrated how little of a challenge it was to have their AI beat Hillary. ;-)
Its not surprising that computers beat us in go, if they cant beat us now, they will improve until they do. That was inevitable. At some point intuitions lose to brute force. NOW it gets interesting. What happens when you pair a pro Go player with a supercomputer. Is that the new competition? Hum + AI vs. AI? Hum + AI vs Hum + AI?
The trick here is that the PROPAGANDA is the claim that the FAKE NEWS epidemic is the fault of the Russians / Trump / Conservatives / Alt Right / whatever boogeyman the liberals dream up.
Referring to Washington Post's bullshit as "fake news" is using their own slur against them. It works because they're peddling fake news about fake news.
He knew Sedol was beaten yet had the hubris to say, "Even if AlphaGo can defeat Lee Sedol, it can't beat me". Actually sounds like a lot of posters here, "AI will never take my job"
As we see yet another instance of hubris in action, this time the assertion of Go players and hangers-on that "Go is so much more complex than chess, so it will never be mastered by a machine". Computational complexity or large problem space has little to do with either play-ability or ease of mastery.
Next challenge?
That's not Artificial Intelligence, that's entirely Absent Intelligence.
...humans are still better at making up games :)
that AlphaGo is so lucky!
Slashdot, fix the reply notifications... You won't get away with it...
Go was one of the last bastions of human intelligence. It is *much* harder to build even a passible Go AI than it is for Chess. Minimax does not buy you much. Complex and subtle pattern matching is required.
So this is a big deal.
After chess, checkers, poker, and Arimaa fell, the significance of Go with its huge search space was whether its huge search space and geometrical intuition represented a fundamentally harder challenge for computer algorithms, or just a different challenge, one that we hadn't figured out yet.
Many were saying that Go posed a fundamentally harder problem than chess. I took the view that Go would fall hard once it finally fell, but it was unclear when that day would arrive. I thought it was more "different" rather than "more difficult".
My view came more from game theory than intuition, because I'm not a Go player.
What we now know is that people reasoning from intuition about what kinds of closed, artificial problems computers are good/bad at are not to be trusted.
Brute force comes in many flavours.
... is futile.
A competition level go player I knew 10 years ago said that this would never happen (colloquially we could say unlikely in his generation is the same thing), that a good go player would always do better than a computer, because of the computing complexity of Go. And this was a senior programmer, so not a case of lack of knowledge of computing.
AI does better than humans in chess, Jeopardy, soon driving and surgery, and now Go? Come on, man, put this "better than humans can do" power to real work and build a sexbot that can fuck the holy hell out of me!
Don't mod this down! You know you want this.
(-1: Post disagrees with my already-settled worldview) is not a valid mod option.
Now do it on about 20 Watts while still having the robustness and flexibility of a human brain.
Let's not lose sight of how beating someone in a complex task doesn't equate to what humans intelligence.
Don't get me wrong, though, this is an impressive point we've reached in technology.