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WikiLeaks Threatens To Publish Twitter Users' Personal Info (usatoday.com)

WikiLeaks said on Twitter earlier today that it wants to publish the private information of hundreds of thousands of verified Twitter users. The group said an online database would include such sensitive details as family relationships and finances. USA Today reports: "We are thinking of making an online database with all 'verified' twitter accounts [and] their family/job/financial/housing relationships," the WikiLeaks Task Force account tweeted Friday. The account then tweeted: "We are looking for clear discrete (father/shareholding/party membership) variables that can be put into our AI software. Other suggestions?" Wikileaks told journalist Kevin Collier on Twitter that the organization wants to "develop a metric to understand influence networks based on proximity graphs." Twitter bans the use of Twitter data for "surveillance purposes." In a statement, Twitter said: "Posting another person's private and confidential information is a violation of the Twitter rules." Twitter declined to say how many of its users have verified accounts but the Verified Twitter account which follows verified accounts currently follows 237,000. Verified accounts confirm the identity of the person tweeting by displaying a blue check mark. Twitter says it verifies an account when "it is determined to be an account of public interest." Twitter launched the feature in 2009 after celebrities complained about people impersonating them on the social media service.

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  1. Wikileaks by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh do please tell us, all you Wikileaks supporters, just how wonderful an organization it is, as it begins the process of trying to fuck over hundreds of thousands of people whose only crime was verifying their account.

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    1. Re:Wikileaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm a tremendous Wikileaks supporter, but this is clearly going too far. How will the new president be able to govern if Wikileaks is interfering with Twitter?

    2. Re:Wikileaks by Luthair · · Score: 5, Insightful

      WikiLeaks originally looked like it could become one of the important institutions for government transparency and institutional crime, however they seemed to have ended up largely as an group looking to self-aggrandize their reputation. At this point they seem to be irrelevant, the important leaks like Snowden, Panama Papers, Swiss banking, etc. have not used them.

    3. Re:Wikileaks by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I was a supporter when they were releasing information in a non-partisan and unbiased way. Now that they're basically a tool of the Russian government, and possibly of even worse actors, I think the time has come to write them off.

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    4. Re:Wikileaks by leftover · · Score: 2

      Wine thru nose event! The most cogent observation yet.

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    5. Re: Wikileaks by Mike+Van+Pelt · · Score: 4, Informative

      This would put many people in danger if they did this. I wont elaborate.

      You think Julian Asshat cares? He blew the cover of people who worked with us against Al Queda in Afghanistan, and when questioned about it, said that anyone who worked with the United States deserved to die, so ha ha ha ha ha.

    6. Re:Wikileaks by Augusto · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I've been on slashdot a looooong time. Never supported wikileaks, and Assange seemed like an asshole from day 1.

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    7. Re:Wikileaks by Chmarr · · Score: 2

      5-digiters represent!

    8. Re:Wikileaks by _KiTA_ · · Score: 2, Informative

      Oh do please tell us, all you Wikileaks supporters, just how wonderful an organization it is, as it begins the process of trying to fuck over hundreds of thousands of people whose only crime was verifying their account.

      Sure. Let me just start this with something important.

      The article is false. Wikileaks does not wish to dox anyone. They wish to create a database of influence. Politician X votes a certain way, you can check and see he was paid off by Corporation Y. Journalist A working for Publication B is owned by Corporation C, which has connections to X, Y, Z, W.

      For example, here's a list of reporters who were outed as colluding with the Hillary Clinton campaign via the email leaks.

      http://imgur.com/a/oO3FS

      Here's a second, more exhaustive list: https://i.redd.it/ol970kkt2nyx...

      And Breitbart has more details: http://www.breitbart.com/wikil...

      (Remember kids, the Genetic Fallacy -- "Herp Derp BREITBART FAKE NEWS" -- means your argument is invalid and I win!)

      So. How many of those reporters had disclaimers mentioning that they were actively working with HRC's campaign on their articles talking about HRC, Bernie, or Trump?

      Basically, Wikileaks is talking about taking the GamerGate corruption and conflict of interest database, http://deepfreeze.it/ , and port the idea to the mainstream.

      Now, having put the above information forward -- the example of the kind of collusion and influence that Wikileaks is wanting to create a map of, can you see why the people at CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News would be a liiiitle upset that someone might want to make a database following their biases, conflicts of interest, nepotism, and the like?

    9. Re:Wikileaks by murdocj · · Score: 2

      You mean the prez brought to us by Putin via Wikileaks?

    10. Re:Wikileaks by Luthair · · Score: 2

      I think you'll find most people who supported the early wikileaks also support Snowden who released similar information to Manning. I think you can also make an argument for Clinton's secretary of state emails but personal emails and DNC are something pretty different.

    11. Re: Wikileaks by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I will Ha Ha you one better. You know who has two thumbs and a Verified Twitter account?
      The President of Ecuador! https://twitter.com/presidencia_ec?lang=en
      This could get so interesting I'd have to start watching the news again...

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    12. Re:Wikileaks by shanen · · Score: 2

      Excellent point. #PresidentTweety is going to run things by Twitter.

      Did you realize that his attack on Toyota caused the market cap of the Japanese auto makers to fall by more than $4 BILLION. Don't you wish you could make BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars disappear with a tweet?

      Abuse of power? Conflict of interest?

      Well, if I had only known that the Donald was about to make that tweet and I had shorted those companies, I could have made a lot of money. Maybe the long gap in one of his "presidential" two-part tweets was actually for a little phone call to his broker?

      Talk about a celebrity apprentice. How long will it take Trump to figure out his new job? How long before he fired his apprentices?

      (I'm still expecting Trump will get Bill-Cosby-ed out within a few weeks.)

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    13. Re:Wikileaks by helsinki92 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Personal emails are not something different when you are using your personal email address for government business!

    14. Re:Wikileaks by Smidge204 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Wikileaks does not wish to dox anyone. They wish to create a database of influence.

      So all those rape victims and mental health patients they doxxed last August were all influential politicos?
      =Smidge=

    15. Re:Wikileaks by squiggleslash · · Score: 5, Informative

      The article is false. Wikileaks does not wish to dox anyone. They wish to create a database of influence. Politician X votes a certain way, you can check and see he was paid off by Corporation Y. Journalist A working for Publication B is owned by Corporation C, which has connections to X, Y, Z, W.

      No. The original tweet says nothing about politicians or anything related to sphere's of influence. The tweet, apparently now deleted, read:

      We are thinking of making an online database with all "verified" twitter accounts & their family/job/financial/housing relationships.

      This is what the article you're reading is about. After there was outrage, Wikileaks (or specifically https://twitter.com/WLTaskForc...) started back peddling, and then claimed everyone who interpreted the above as being a threat to dox as being liars.

      Your spin doesn't match what WLTaskForce actually said, and neither does their spin. They said NOTHING about politicians. The vast majority of "verified" Twitter users aren't political at all, they're mostly actors, comedians, authors, and business people.

      This was unambiguously a proposal to create a doxxing database. In an era in which Wikileaks is allied with a President-elect who ran a fascist campaign, that's terrifying.

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    16. Re:Wikileaks by Pseudonym · · Score: 2

      I am not the above person, and I don't know if it's trolling or just ignorance of the facts.

      I don't know which Slashdot you've been reading, but the way I remember it, most people on Slashdot supported the diplomatic cable leak (some objected to the way it was done, because JA was acting like an arse, but few objected to doing it) and don't recall anyone at all complaining when they released the transcript of Clinton's paid talk to Wall Street.

      I know it's hard to remember how things were before GamerGate and when the comment section became a game of duelling morons, but it wasn't so long ago that most Slashdotters were generally against government secrecy in a nonpartisan way once upon a time.

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    17. Re:Wikileaks by murdocj · · Score: 2

      The woman who won the popular vote by 3,000,000?

    18. Re:Wikileaks by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 2

      Well, if I had only known that the Donald was about to make that tweet and I had shorted those companies, I could have made a lot of money.

      I have no doubt that this will soon be a "feature" of the new administration, basically a game of "Guess Who To Short" (or buy).

      Maybe he'll sell advance notice of his upcoming Twitter rants to serious investors.

      And what happens if his feed is hacked and some joker tweets, "Russia bad! Launching nuclear missiles now! All Russians will die!"

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    19. Re:Wikileaks by rochrist · · Score: 2

      You know there were different margins in every fucking state in the country right? Plus in some, minus in others. The three states that gave Trump the win she lost by less than 100,000 votes total. She won Massachusetts by a million votes. She lost Mississippi by 200,000 votes. She won NJ by 500,000 votes. She lost NC by 150,000 votes. She won one and a half million votes. This 'she won California and that's it thing is stupid and wrong.

    20. Re:Wikileaks by amiga3D · · Score: 2

      Really? What's so wrong with Pence?

  2. Ironic much? by Xenographic · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's funny how they're only up in arms when other people do it. Also the headline doesn't really match the Tweet... If they're verified accounts, people kind of already know who is behind them....

    They're totally willing to sell it to businesses (but not the US Government for some odd reason... guess they have to make a new shell company for that).

    And nobody seems to care about all those NSA databases Wikileaks exposed.

    Or maybe they will be once the NSA answers to Trump? I can only wonder.

    1. Re:Ironic much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The don't want to find the identity of the verified person.

      They want to know where they work.

      They want to know where they live.

      They want to know who their loved ones are.

      They want to know where their loved ones work and live.

      What better way to keep someone in check than to send them a photo of where their spouse works or where their child goes to school?

      Not to mention they are really bad at it - they replied to a guy making fun of them and linked his LinkedIn profile to taunt him saying he spent 10 years in Government. Except they didn't post his linkedin. He has his linkedin page one degree of separation from the personal URL on his twitter profile. They picked out a guy with a similar name. Good job.

    2. Re:Ironic much? by T.E.D. · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If he behaved this way towards regular people, folks like you might see it differently

      Actually, he does. Read your sibling post. He doxxes people who disagree with him on twitter. He doxxes people who donate to politicians he doesn't like. He doxxes government officials when some agency annoys him. For fun, he even doxxed every woman in Turkey back in July. (Met a Turkish babe who wouldn't give you her cell number? Wikileaks has your back, bro!)

      So its no real mystery what he wants to do with this information. These days he's basically just trying to run his own personal crowd-sourced KGB.

    3. Re:Ironic much? by Xenographic · · Score: 2

      So... you're worried they might build a crappier version of the kinds of social media databases that Twitter, Facebook & the government already have?

  3. on one hand, it's sleazy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But on the other, if you give Twitter your personal information such as name and family relationships, what did you think was going to happen? It's too tempting of a target. People need to start saying "no" to social media companies that want to harvest every shred of personal information about them.

    Use them pseudonymously if you must, but do not let them have that much data about you. It's a recipe for disaster.

  4. Four legs good, two legs BETTER. by T.E.D. · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Originally, I believe the idea of Wikileaks was to have a place for people to safely and anonymously without fear of retaliation, leak information people in power didn't want publicized.

    Now in the last day, Wikileaks has come out against government leaks, and anonymity, and in support of retaliation against people (eg: Doxing). In our own little real-life version of Animal Farm, it looks like we're now near the end of the story.

    Or like @ElliotHiggins said on Twitter:

    Feels like WikiLeaks stared into the abyss, then fell into it, befriended the monsters, and is now looking upwards with them.

    1. Re:Four legs good, two legs BETTER. by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

      Well, at least we can dispense with the notion that Assange is some sort of champion of truth. He's basically an online mobster and gun for hire.

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  5. Re:Wikileaks is purely insane by Hope+Thelps · · Score: 2, Informative

    I get dumping documents from government agencies. Though, their motives are a bit bizarre at times. Disclosing hundreds of thousands of addresses of private citizens? What does that help? When will Wikipedia disclose those types of details on everyone within Wikipedia? Oh that is right, Wikipedia believes they can be opaque in operation, not transparent like they expect everyone else to be.

    I don't think Wikileaks is related to Wikipedia. The term "Wiki" predates Wikipedia and isn't any sort of trademark of theirs.

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  6. The sooner the better.. by fluffernutter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not that this is a good thing, but I see a silver lining. The sooner the general public realizes how stupid it is to give these companies their private information the better. Maybe then the internet can move past this phase and become more useful and less creepy.

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  7. Wikileaks: Good ideal, pathological implementation by shanen · · Score: 4, Informative

    How did that comment rate an "insightful" moderation? The "funny" reply was much more insightful, but rather funny, too, so I guess that's a fair cop of sorts...

    The ideal of WikiLeaks is that there is too much abuse of secrecy by powerful people and more of those secrets should be revealed. There is a real problem there, because in many cases the powerful people are doing terrible, even criminal, things because they think they can keep them secret.

    The implementation is fundamentally broken, but I'm not sure how much credit or blame you can assign to Assange. "The system" of corruption, the oligarchy or kleptocracy, if you prefer, is already so well established and powerful that you have to be insane to go against it in the first place. Only someone with personality problems along Assange's lines could have created a WikiLeaks-type organization of any visible significance. Did you even know there are several similar organizations with sane leadership?

    Another pathology was the financial model, or rather the lack of any. In chasing the money they wound up producing disaster porn, sort of like a low-budget CNN. Actually, insofar as WikiLeaks had smaller expenses, you could argue the RoI was higher. However it led them to focus on controlled timing for maximum market value of their "news" (AKA disaster porn) and also made them too subject to manipulation.

    Just reading the official report now https://www.dni.gov/files/docu... but it was already obvious to me that WikiLeaks was used as part of a propaganda and disinformation campaign. WikiLeaks never had the resources to actually check the validity (or even the potentially harmful consequences) of the data they were publishing. Yet it was the drive to maximize the impact and market value that made WikiLeaks such a useful tool last October.

    I'm suffering a bit of a recall gap here. What's the expression for a naive fool manipulated by someone of great cunning (such as Putin)? Oh yeah. It's "useful idiot". Not sure where he started, but Assange ended as a useful idiot.

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  8. Where is the burden of proof again? by Xenographic · · Score: 2, Informative

    Look, I've read the actual report. It's garbage. Utter garbage. The FBI relied on the CrowdStrike reports without actually getting to look at the servers themselves. CS was paid by the DNC. You guys keep recycling the same crappy "evidence" and trying to find ways to rack up a higher number of organizations to whitewash it.

    This report doesn't have new evidence of any kind, they have unsupported conclusions. The few technical details they offer are so bad as to be laughable. Russian "trolls"? How does that influence an election? People were convinced but unrebutted facts. We know that Donna Brazille gave away the debate questions. Russia didn't do that. We know that she went on the news and lied to us about "modifications" to the emails. I have, in my Slashdot history, gone into incredible detail on that point, even showing you where to get the DKIM keys from Hillary's own damned DNS server. And the other key from Google's DNS server. Both of which validate the body and the body hash of the emails. We know what Zulema Rodriguez did. I've discussed that in great detail here on Slashdot as well, I can find multiple independent videos, payroll records where MoveOn pays for her travel, photo credits for her in the "Trump Ducks" campaign that Hillary wanted, etc. At this point, the "PACs aren't allowed to collude with candidates" thing is a complete and utter joke on both sides.

    I saw the NYT, WaPo, etc. stories. They did not present any facts, but simple bare conclusions of nameless insiders. I saw the ODNI report where the directors of the group that oversees the Coast Guard & co. said this was something Russia would like to kinda maybe do I guess. I saw all the crappy fake news here on Slashdot. Ooh! Someone is making DNS queries that might have something to do with a website Trump had made by a 3rd party and a Russian bank! Alert the press! Sorry, but that kinda proves that there is a media campaign to sling mud that only the truly gullible will ever fall for.

    I also saw the completely unreported Todd & Claire scam site trying to frame Julian Assange. But I wonder how many of you know what that even is? How it enrolled in a crazy UN program to present itself as a "UN partner" (anyone can enroll, it gives no meaningful "partnership" and they were ejected from it). How many of you know that it was a complete scam site and all the profiles were using fake, mirrored images (they were trying to stop reverse image searches, but they chose some photos that were a bit too famous, as well as some where the mirroring was obvious).

    I read the CrowdStrike reports. This is the best of the lot, but it's a sad lot. I don't need more secret evidence and unsupported conclusions. The techniques are not advanced and do not impress anyone who has even glimpsed at the NSA's TAO catalog. You have crap like an ancient version of P.A.S. that's freely available online, simple phishing attacks and a list of Tor exit node IPs.

    For anyone who knows about security that isn't a partisan hack, this is a complete and utter joke. I paid attention when Clapper lied to Congress, I'm sure as hell not going to believe him based on secret evidence now. Willing to start a war over nonsense? We already did that. Oh, but there was more push-back then?

    There is now, too, you just won't find it being reported by the same people at CNN who gave Donna those questions in the first place. You won't find it reported by the people at the Washington Post who helped the DNC unofficially add their party to the DNC's price sheet (who cares what the lawyers say?).

    Everyone crying about foreign influence doesn't give a damn how much Saudi Arabia paid to the Clinton Foundation (it probably went to Diane Reynolds', err, CVC, err, Chelsea's wedding), nor Qatar (guess who runs Al Jazeera?). Don't care that they're a leading state sponsor of terrorism... but that's okay when they're an "ally" right? Just like our "allies" in Pakistan where Osama was somehow hiding right outside a big

    1. Re:Where is the burden of proof again? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Informative

      The public report doesn't include a lot of the detail and evidence. If you had the classified version it would probably nullify most of your criticisms.

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    2. Re:Where is the burden of proof again? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Um... All I pointed out was that they have only seen the part of the report that was unclassified, all the evidence is in the non-public classified part that Trump has seen. Even Trump seems to be accepting that evidence, just not that it had any influence over his victory.

      Clearly, since the GP hasn't seen the classified report, making the conclusions they did is not warranted.

      Also, verbal abuse of whites? You are hallucinating again. Whoever you think I am, I'm not.

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  9. It's a pretty safe bet... by hyades1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...that Trump and his kids will somehow escape scrutiny.

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  10. Re:Wikileaks: Good ideal, pathological implementat by hey! · · Score: 2

    There's a fine line between stranding for something and trying to make people identify that thing with you. But that line is important: it's the difference between having integrity and building a self-serving cult of personality. Integrity means accountability; cult of personality means getting a free pass because of who you are.

    Assange would like everyone to believe that disagreeing with him means disagreeing with the very concept of transparency in the exercise of power by the powerful. It's not.

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