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Chile's Goverment Announces Unexplainable 'UFO' Footage (yahoo.com)
An anonymous reader quotes Yahoo News:The report from an alleged UFO sighting by the Chilean military over two years ago has just been declassified, leaving experts completely stumped. The Chilean government agency which investigates UFOs, the CEFAA, reports that a naval helicopter was carrying out a routine daylight coastal patrol in November 2014 when the camera operator noticed an unidentified flying object ahead...flying horizontally and at a steady speed similar to that of the helicopter. The mysterious object could be seen with the naked eye but couldn't be detected with the helicopter's radar, ground radar stations or air traffic controllers. Authorities ruled out that it was an aircraft as no craft had been authorized to fly in the area.
In 2014 the CIA admitted their tests of a high-altitude U-2 reconnaissance aircraft between 1954 and 1972 coincided with a spike in UFO reports. Could this be another new military aircraft that's getting its first tests?
In 2014 the CIA admitted their tests of a high-altitude U-2 reconnaissance aircraft between 1954 and 1972 coincided with a spike in UFO reports. Could this be another new military aircraft that's getting its first tests?
"Could this be another new military aircraft that's getting its first tests?" Obviously, it's a UFO. No other possible explanation is possible. At last, proof of aliens! Wow! To think, we're alive at such a time.
Everything you know is wrong, Just forget the words and sing along.
Perhaps the CIA spy-planes, both then and now, were tracking the UFOs from outer space.
I have my standards after all.
The instrument sure shows a lot of English for a Spanish speaking country.
Obviously they are ignoring our emission regulations. I hope they will be identified, caught and charged appropriately.
was it coal powered? maybe it's Russian like there aircraft carrier.
Move along now, nothing to see here.
It's close to a layer of clouds, so the small changes of pressure or added particles may cause condensation. You know, contrails.
Do you people actually read the words in the articles? Cause there aren't that many.
Great, now Russian hackers are targeting the Chilean military emails. Putin is clearly in favor Chilean airspace as Russian airspace.
Really? Because there's an airport right there with standard flight route. Feel free to look it up on Planefinder. More info here: https://www.metabunk.org/explanation-for-chilean-navy-ufo-video-aerodynamic-contrail.t8306/
Slashdot, we really need to have an intervention with all this fake news conspiracy crap. I'm only one person, I don't have time to debunk all this nonsense you keep posting. This used to have some vague relation to tech, rather than every random clickbait article you could find in the firehose.
What's the next story going to be? That Russian lizard people hacked the Bilderbergs to steal their chemtrail recipes for the alien galactic overlord, Xenu to use in Darl's $699 Linux auditing sessions?
There's not necessarily anything there. It could be a conspicuously shaped gap, forming in the cloud formation.
That must be why the Chileans are calling it an "unidentified aerial phenomenon", not a UFO.
Probably this.
On IR only the two engines are visible (and the exhaust with hot vapor of unburned fuel).
The few frames captured in the visible spectrum don't seem to show the aircraft itself, but they are far too blurry to see it anyway.
Of course all pilots have super-human eyes, but determining the kind of aircraft at that distance isn't easy even for those eyes.
Not being visible on radar of a normal even military helicopter isn't surprising. Its not built to track down aircraft in any case.
Just the IR picks it up nicely. It's built to see much more faint things than even the cooled exhaust of stealthy aircraft.
I can confirm it's a real UFO. The video is blurred beyond recognition, and you can't make out any details.
It never ceases to amaze me how prevalent and commonly accepted are UFOs in the Chilean collective psyche. You can even do a general search in the news for UFO-related articles and come back with a bunch (in Spanish). In virtually all cases, the generally accepted belief is that they have an extraterrestrial origin.
An overwhelming 85% of Chileans believe in the phenomenon, compared to a 48% of Americans, and the topic can easily come up in any colloquial conversation among regular people as something totally accepted.
Coincidentally, Chile is also fertile ground for "spiritual movements" that very regularly include UFO elements. As a Chilean myself, and as someone who was attracted to those movements in my 20s, I struggle to come up with a clear explanation of why Chile in particular seems to be so captivated by beliefs in the supernatural. Michael Shermer does a good job explaining generically why people believe weird things, but doesn't explain why certain specific cultures or countries seem to be more susceptible than others.
I, for one, believe the reason is the lack of formal teaching of Critical Thinking as a subject, throughout the school curriculum. In the US, critical thinking is virtually part of all subjects in the new Common Core standards, from K to 12. They were even part of the old standards, at least in all science classes. Although things may be different in Chile now (I graduated high school in 85), I don't recall to have ever been taught critical thinking skills. That's something I discovered years later when I moved to the US. That in spite of having gone through a rigorous degree in Computer Science at the University of Santiago. University careers, at least back in my day, were very technical in nature, and focused very narrowly on deep subjects, without concern to create a more rounded individual. That was an exercise left to each student.
move along
I knew a former US Army helicopter pilot. He had great stories about stuff they did. One example: find a car driving down a lonely rural road at night. Approach it with lights off. Settle in at low altitude and fifty yards behind it. Turn on the several-million-candlepower search light, then immediately bank to one side. Turn the light off. Run away. Watch the local papers for UFO sighting reports.
Who corrupted the term ? CTer and later mass media and culture which forever associated it with UFO==alien, when in reality all skeptic usually point out it just means anything you see in the sky which you cannot identify readily. The acronym does not help either (unknown flying object which indicate something flying e.g. which also indicate usually intelligence and direction, rather than unknown floating/falling object or similar which would not indicate necessarily such - especially knowing that most UFO can be analyzed as weather phenomenon , celestial objects or even hoaxed turkey baster hanging on a line). Basically if you want to point the finger , it is not at "less intelligent" person, but CTer and later culture as a whole.
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> Is it identified?
Yes. It appears to match LATAM Chile flight LA330, callsign LXP330, which is an Airbus A320-233.
Actually, it's pretty well identified.
It appears to be LATAM Chile flight LA330.
And they wonder why nobody trusts the news any more after posting ridiculous nonsense like this...
Swamp gas, motherfuckers.
foggy night, late night, driving into the city and past the SAC air base on a federal highway. a bluish smear pacing my car, a little ahead, overhead to the left. occasionally blinking regularly. just like a reflection of my headlights onto some new aluminum high-tension wires between the wooden poles.. in fact, exactly that.
sun reflecting off a helicopter would look just like described....
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
Remember kids, when pilots and astronauts say "UFO" they very literally mean that they saw an object flying around that they could not immediately identify. It is not the bastardized definition that the so called ufologists have made it into. An official stating the existence of a UFO is not an admission that a space craft from another planet was seen flying around. You may now put your tin foil hat back on.
"Authorities ruled out that it was an aircraft as no craft had been authorized to fly in the area. "
Isn't that the best way to test a new stealth aircraft? If no complaints come in, it works.
Why are all the videos and photos of UFOs always so fuzzy that you can't really tell what it looks like? Seems like a conspiracy to me!
Unlikely.
The story clearly says: it was not on ground radar and not on air borne radar. ... well, airbuses and such.
And for everyone hunting an UFO it is plain obvious to check flight plans and airports about
Do you really think Chiles authorities are so dumb that they first find an UFO, then need 2 years to find no explanation, then disclose all information and get debunked by a hobbyists web site?
Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
You seem to be assuming that the story is accurate, despite the fact that it offers few details and no primary sources
I'm not nearly so credulous as to simply believe that journalists would let facts stand in the way of good clickbait. This goes double when someone posts verifiable, factual information that contradicts it.
Who am I supposed to believe here, a journalist writing UFO clickbait, or people who posted information that can be verified and corroborated from other sources?
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Seems reasonable. Doesn't matter how large you were to start, the idea of supporting (or having sex with!) Hillary would shrivel anyone's dick to a frightening degree!
I thought everyone knew what the real story was. After the Soviet Union fell, some of their KGB documents and defectors showed they used UFO reports in the United States and several other nations to spread distrust of their governments. But wait, as they say on TV, there's more.
Later FOA requests some few years ago from the CIA and other agencies described how, after the defeat in WW2, the US gained several rocket scientists/engineers, including, famously, Dr. Werner Von Braun. Also imported were several experiment aircraft seized at Pannemunde (not sure of the spelling), including at least one prototype with a circular (saucer-like) wing arrangement. As I am quite an ancient dude (ignore the handle) I remember seeing grainy photos of some of these aircraft, possibly taken by servicemen, which were published in either or both Popular Science or Popular Mechanics magazines. I was just a small kid at the time, so it was probably ca. 1947. These planes, according to the CIA response to the info request, were taken to a testing airbase in the New Mexico desert (think area-51) where they were studied and test-flown, and found to be quite unstable as they were involved in frequent collisions with the ground, causing numerous pilots' deaths. Contemporary reports of these crashes by civilians spread throughout the US, while its government denied the existence of these crashes and the erratic, saucer-shaped craft. It was the Cold War, and the USSR used their network to spread other fictitious reports (see above paragraph. Rinse and repeat.)
The CIA saw what they were doing and did it back to them, spreading false reports throughout northern Asia and then to the more populous western regions. Suddenly, UFOs were a worldwide phenomenon!
As Paul Harvey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... used to say, "And that's the rest of the story."
No, it's spelled "Gubberment" ... or is it "spelt"
Damn it hard being a word nazi nowadays ... woops, am I allowed to say Nazi?
The story is in so far accurate as the story made world news aprox. 2 years ago when the incident happened (and I think it also was covered then here on /. )... now thy only disclosed the "internal papers" or what ever.
Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
I see the same thing among (South) Koreans. They believe in weird things like fan death. It's basically gossip (or "fake news" as the media has started calling it) which has reached critical mass within the entire population - it's repeated enough that people believe it to be true because "everyone else" thinks it's true. Most populations have enough churn from neighbors that they get enough new people who haven't been exposed to the original gossip. These people simply don't know they're supposed to conform and when they express an outside opinion which differs from accepted belief, it provides enough basis for people to begin to question the gossip, and which point the gossip story quickly unravels.
But if the population is geographically isolated, sometimes they don't get enough outside opinions to break this self-propagating cycle. Chile has this isolation in the form of the Andes mountain range along its eastern border, and the Pacific ocean on the west. In South Korea's case, it's because the country is at the end of a peninsula with the most reclusive nation on earth as their only connected border. Until the last couple decades, churn from Japan (the other nearest neighbor) was limited due to lingering animosity over the colonial period during WWII. Speaking of which, Japan being a large island nation has it too. They come up with cute things like people's personalities being tied to blood type.
It's worth pointing out that these beliefs are not always supernatural. It can happen with anything which is difficult or impossible to disprove, especially when it's advocated by seeming eyewitness testimony or people wanting it to be true. Coercion of children to provide false testimony and seemingly incompetent disabled people being secretly competent are good examples.
Dammit, I told all my little ETs to stay out of Chile for a while. Do they listen? Of course not. I understand you have the same trouble with your little Earthlings. I just hope they don't start another war. Those pyramids almost did us in last time.
This exactly. In other news, incompetent third world military is incompetent. They get advanced imaging FLIR hardware and have zero clue of the thermodynamics behind it or what things look like in IR, see commercial flight from nearby airport and think it is UFO... Not shocking at all, the only shocking thing is how desperate Slashdot is for some fake news clickbait.
I have been using FLIR cameras for almost 20 years now, and unless you understand the principles behind what is going on, some everyday things can look pretty bizarre (like the candles having a much larger corona in IR than in visible light.) If you give a FLIR to a bunch of high school graduates fresh out of whatever counts for training in south America and tell them that it can see things you normally can't without getting into the details, mis-identifications like this are very likely, I'm just glad they were too far away to try to shoot down their "UFO"...
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Every culture has its blindspots.
Arabs for example have a blindspot where all world events are a product of conspiracies by various entities. From real ones (USA, Israel), to quasi-entities ('The West'), to imaginary ones (Free Masonry, World Government, ...etc.) Everything that happens is planned and executed by these entities, from wars, revolutions, downing an airplane (e.g. Egypt Air 990, MetroJet). No amount of reasoning will sway the average Arab that there are other explanations that hold more to logic than the usual suspects conspiring on us.
Today I learned that Chileans have a blindspot for believing in UFOs.
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Has anyone bothered to ask the pilots of those 2 flights if they saw any UFOs?
Do you people actually read the words in the articles? Cause there aren't that many.
You must be new here! 8-)
No one but you and I read the original articles...
P.S., There are no such things as UFOs. It was just a weather balloon! ;-)