I can. Of course the people saying it were the people pushing "PowerPC, Sparc, PA-risc, Clipper, etc etc", but yeah, I remember the notion that 80x86 wasn't proper server hardware being expressed from time to time back in the 1980's and maybe even early 1990's.
I don't believe anyone used the term "data center", though. Was the term even invented back then? "Mainframe" and "server", more like.
We can talk criminal negligence the moment someone gets seriously hurt. So far, I haven't heard of that happening in even one single case. I'm not saying it can't happen, I'm not saying it won't happen in the future, just that it doesn't really seem to be happening now.
I know this is not a popular opinion on/., but there is a need for perspective. These devices save lives, and delaying a product launch by even just six months in order to work out the crypto would likely cost lives. Strange as it may sound, delaying proper IT security has saved lives.
I'm not saying it should continue that way, on the contrary: We have the tech now to properly secure low-power devices, and it's time for medical authorities to require its use.
But please, stop calling the people who are building life-saving tech criminals, just because they're not experts in the same field that you are an expert in.
The people on the free tier are paying customers of Apple. They've bought a device that supposedly allows third-party applications to run. Please don't claim that Apple is getting stiffed by people using their very expensive device for exactly what it's designed for.
"Mr President, what we have here is a great new coal-based technology. Not only does it involve coal, it actually creates coal in the process. Now, the sooner you sign the bill, the sooner we can start building coal manufacturing plants. Yeah, you heard me. COAL MANUFACTURING PLANTS. How awesome is that? Other presidents settled for mining it, but you will be the president that made coal production a reality."
FTFY. They might store them unencrypted, or they might have an elaborate keyserver setup with a reasonable level of security, you can't know that. Hashing would have been better, but that doesn't mean everything else is garbage.
From the point on where I wrote But you don't actually need to correct for age to compare the predictive power of push-ups vs. treadmill performance I was not talking about correcting for age. So we're talking about different things. Let's stop here.
Do you mean that they didn't do both measurements, push-up and thread mill capability, for the same group of test subjects at the same time? Is that what "cohorts don't overlap" means? If that's the case, then I concede the point.
I repeat: the pushup data shows simply that number of pushups correlates (negatively) with age.
In other words, after correcting for age the remaining effect is negligible? Just before you told me that they couldn't have corrected for age before making any conclusions because that's too hard, and then you correct for age and draw your own conclusion??
Age is very hard to correct for in cardiovascular studies
Okay, I'll take your word for it. But you don't actually need to correct for age to compare the predictive power of push-ups vs. treadmill performance. You have three data points for each person, the two fitness measurements and subsequent cardiovascular outcomes. Determining that two of the three correlate better than other two of the tree is purely a numbers game.
It sounds like you are just saying that there are too few test subjects to back the claim?
is it though? all it shows us is that upper body strength and potentially having less fat around upper body strength is a better indicator of health then lower body/leg strength.
No, all it shows is that older people have more cardiovascular events than younger ones.
No, it shows that the ability to do push-ups was a better predictor of cardiovascular disease than their stamina on a treadmill test. That's what the article says, and the table you linked to does nothing to contradict it.
Age is the easiest thing in the world to control for.
Oh, and all three ways of writing numbers are totally flawed. The better way is 1'000'000. No one ever misunderstands that, even if they've never seen it before. And/. cannot bungle the formatting, try as it might.
It's not there yet, but it might not be far away. Combine voice recognition with something like Kite, and you could have a very productive way of entering code.
But if you do read it, just remember that death threats on the internet are absurdly hollow.
If they're shut down immediately, yes. They're trial balloons. If you caution them immediately that they stepped over a line, then yes, they'll back down and say they weren't really serious. But if they get support, even under the guise of joking, it can develop.
No-one wants to actually get up from a chair and do anything about anything
Ever heard of swatting?
If you have more of your public info known maybe take steps to give the local police a heads-up about possible swatting attempts [...]
Oh, you have heard of swatting. You just chose to blame the victim instead.
No, that's the idea behind large-scale battery banks managed by the utility company. Coordinating a diverse army of residential batteries to do the same thing is impractical.
On the other hand, you do expect it to start executing file system driver code. So if you can trigger an exploitable vulnerability in a driver using a specially crafted file system image, that'll do the trick.
Of course that applies to any driver, not just a file system driver. Perhaps the idea is that without a mass storage device it becomes harder to load an attack payload. Not a very convincing idea, I admit; there are certainly ways around that.
There are so many different ways of building wind turbines. Neodymium and indium is used today because it's readily available. When it becomes scarce, we will come up with different designs. Or maybe we will just find new places to dig neodymium and indium out of the earth. This is not a real problem.
The precise rule goes like this: Any game where organised competitions are held is a sport. Any sport qualifies, provided it obeys the prime directive:
Do not make jocks look stupid.
That's why chess, go and shogi are out, and anything else is in.
It doesn't matter that the skills for, say, water polo, are also arcane and difficult: As long as the spectators can pretend that they know what's going on and pretend that they could have done the same themselves if they'd only bothered, all is well.
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No one is going to think the word "host" means the guy who started a party in a RFC.
In 1969, no one was going to think the word "host" meant a network node, unless it was very carefully explained to them.
I have mod points but I chose to post instead. I do remember that.
I can. Of course the people saying it were the people pushing "PowerPC, Sparc, PA-risc, Clipper, etc etc", but yeah, I remember the notion that 80x86 wasn't proper server hardware being expressed from time to time back in the 1980's and maybe even early 1990's.
I don't believe anyone used the term "data center", though. Was the term even invented back then? "Mainframe" and "server", more like.
We can fix that: Simply replace humanity with a different humanity that is capable of writing secure C code.
Or we can use memory-safe languages where possible.
I vote for the latter.
We can talk criminal negligence the moment someone gets seriously hurt. So far, I haven't heard of that happening in even one single case. I'm not saying it can't happen, I'm not saying it won't happen in the future, just that it doesn't really seem to be happening now.
I know this is not a popular opinion on /., but there is a need for perspective. These devices save lives, and delaying a product launch by even just six months in order to work out the crypto would likely cost lives. Strange as it may sound, delaying proper IT security has saved lives.
I'm not saying it should continue that way, on the contrary: We have the tech now to properly secure low-power devices, and it's time for medical authorities to require its use.
But please, stop calling the people who are building life-saving tech criminals, just because they're not experts in the same field that you are an expert in.
The people on the free tier are paying customers of Apple. They've bought a device that supposedly allows third-party applications to run. Please don't claim that Apple is getting stiffed by people using their very expensive device for exactly what it's designed for.
They can require users to set up an account on their website, and gather the data there, and manage payments there.
Except Apple is not likely to approve an app that works like that.
"Mr President, what we have here is a great new coal-based technology. Not only does it involve coal, it actually creates coal in the process. Now, the sooner you sign the bill, the sooner we can start building coal manufacturing plants. Yeah, you heard me. COAL MANUFACTURING PLANTS. How awesome is that? Other presidents settled for mining it, but you will be the president that made coal production a reality."
Whatever. Bye.
I think my bank stores passwords unhashed.
FTFY. They might store them unencrypted, or they might have an elaborate keyserver setup with a reasonable level of security, you can't know that. Hashing would have been better, but that doesn't mean everything else is garbage.
Yes, if you're talking about the ability of a test to predict a person's age...
I'm not, I stopped talking about age entirely.
From the point on where I wrote But you don't actually need to correct for age to compare the predictive power of push-ups vs. treadmill performance I was not talking about correcting for age. So we're talking about different things. Let's stop here.
Do you mean that they didn't do both measurements, push-up and thread mill capability, for the same group of test subjects at the same time? Is that what "cohorts don't overlap" means? If that's the case, then I concede the point.
I repeat: the pushup data shows simply that number of pushups correlates (negatively) with age.
In other words, after correcting for age the remaining effect is negligible? Just before you told me that they couldn't have corrected for age before making any conclusions because that's too hard, and then you correct for age and draw your own conclusion??
Age is very hard to correct for in cardiovascular studies
Okay, I'll take your word for it. But you don't actually need to correct for age to compare the predictive power of push-ups vs. treadmill performance. You have three data points for each person, the two fitness measurements and subsequent cardiovascular outcomes. Determining that two of the three correlate better than other two of the tree is purely a numbers game.
It sounds like you are just saying that there are too few test subjects to back the claim?
is it though? all it shows us is that upper body strength and potentially having less fat around upper body strength is a better indicator of health then lower body/leg strength.
No, all it shows is that older people have more cardiovascular events than younger ones.
No, it shows that the ability to do push-ups was a better predictor of cardiovascular disease than their stamina on a treadmill test. That's what the article says, and the table you linked to does nothing to contradict it.
Age is the easiest thing in the world to control for.
Thus disproving "no mistakes can be made" :)
Oh, and all three ways of writing numbers are totally flawed. The better way is 1'000'000. No one ever misunderstands that, even if they've never seen it before. And /. cannot bungle the formatting, try as it might.
It's not there yet, but it might not be far away. Combine voice recognition with something like Kite, and you could have a very productive way of entering code.
I will remind people that the NRA is not a lobbying group
Never heard that one before. The Senate Office of Public Records disagrees with you.
But if you do read it, just remember that death threats on the internet are absurdly hollow.
If they're shut down immediately, yes. They're trial balloons. If you caution them immediately that they stepped over a line, then yes, they'll back down and say they weren't really serious. But if they get support, even under the guise of joking, it can develop.
No-one wants to actually get up from a chair and do anything about anything
Ever heard of swatting?
If you have more of your public info known maybe take steps to give the local police a heads-up about possible swatting attempts [...]
Oh, you have heard of swatting. You just chose to blame the victim instead.
You sort of coordinate with a price signal, and then you need additional battery banks to deal with the fluctuations that you didn't predict.
No, that's the idea behind large-scale battery banks managed by the utility company. Coordinating a diverse army of residential batteries to do the same thing is impractical.
On the other hand, you do expect it to start executing file system driver code. So if you can trigger an exploitable vulnerability in a driver using a specially crafted file system image, that'll do the trick.
Of course that applies to any driver, not just a file system driver. Perhaps the idea is that without a mass storage device it becomes harder to load an attack payload. Not a very convincing idea, I admit; there are certainly ways around that.
There are so many different ways of building wind turbines. Neodymium and indium is used today because it's readily available. When it becomes scarce, we will come up with different designs. Or maybe we will just find new places to dig neodymium and indium out of the earth. This is not a real problem.
The precise rule goes like this: Any game where organised competitions are held is a sport. Any sport qualifies, provided it obeys the prime directive:
Do not make jocks look stupid.
That's why chess, go and shogi are out, and anything else is in. It doesn't matter that the skills for, say, water polo, are also arcane and difficult: As long as the spectators can pretend that they know what's going on and pretend that they could have done the same themselves if they'd only bothered, all is well.