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Faulty Phone Battery May Have Caused Fire That Brought Down EgyptAir Flight MS80 (ibtimes.co.uk)
New submitter drunkdrone writes: "French authorities investigating the EgyptAir crash that killed 66 people last year believe that the plane may have been brought down by an overheating phone battery," reports International Business Times. Investigators say the fire that broke out on the Airbus A320 in May 2016 started in the spot where the co-pilot had stowed his iPad and iPhone 6S, which he placed on top of the instrument panel in the plane's cockpit. From the report: "EgyptAir flight MS804 was traveling from Paris to Cairo when it disappeared from radar on 19 May 2016. Egyptian investigators have speculated that the crash, which killed all 56 passengers, seven crew members and three security personnel on board, was caused by an act of terrorism due to traces of explosives reported to be found on some the victims. Investigators in France have disputed these claims, saying that data recorded from the aircraft around the time it disappeared points to an accidental fire on the right-hand side of the flight deck, next to the co-pilot. According to The Times, CCTV pulled from cameras at Paris' Charles de Gualle airport show that the co-pilot stored a number of personal items above the dashboard, where the first signs of trouble were detected. This included an automated alert indicating a series of malfunctions on the right-hand flight deck window, followed by smoke alerts going off in a toilet and in the avionics area below the cockpit, minutes before the plane vanished."
Fun fact: In the original draft, I noted that the Galaxy Note 7 came out in late August, well after the plane was reported missing. But I removed it due to the fact that the report clearly specifies that the pilot brought Apple products onboard. Still, we can expect a fair share of Samsung jokes regardless...
The batteries burn, not violently explode. The pilots would have seen and smelt smoke, and done something about it, like move the phone out of the cockpit.
This is more likely a pilot suicide.
Surely, if a fire started as described (in the cockpit, right next to the pilots) the voice recording would contain utterances like "Bloody hell, my phone's caught fire!" or "Hand me that extinguisher we've got a burning iPad" or similar (and in Arabic obviously). Does anyone know if this is the case?
If the day ever comes an exploit can cause a phone to catch fire, imagine all the implications.
So Egyptian investigators are claiming it was a bomb, while the French say there was likely a fire which started on the flight deck. Are the French investigators disputing the claim that "traces of explosives" were found on some of the victims? Or are they saying "well sure there was explosive residue, but that's not what brought the plane down"... because that would be weird and scary.
#DeleteChrome
we can expect a fair share of Samsung jokes regardless...
What kind of person could turn 56 accidental deaths into a joke?
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
The recorder did in fact record the pilots trying to put out a fire in the cockpit.
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A brilliant comedian.
Just to clarify, this was deduced from the flight data recorder, not voice recordings. The voice recorder was apparently damaged by salt water and data not recovered so far.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
First day on Slashdot eh?
The sub-headline of the story I linked to is:
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Information from the flight's cockpit voice recorder suggests the pilot tried to extinguish a fire in the cockpit before the plane crashed
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The French article says: ...
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the CVR (cockpit voice recorder) indicates that one of the two pilot present in the cockpit of flight MS 804
it was not this fire that suddenly cut, at 37,000 feet, the other black box, the flight recorder (FDR)
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Translated by Google translate.
The article explicitly says "not the OTHER black box, the flight data recorder".
Except that it's Samsung with the exploding batteries. But any chance to act like a shitknob and bash Apple because you lack any real intelligence or character, right?
How ignorant of history can you be? Plenty of laptops included the HCF instruction. No wonder you posted anonymously ...
Now on to more serious business - civil suits incoming - and it's not like you have the same standard of proof for civil liability as for criminal liability. With the extensive history of electronics catching fire, a jury will have no time believing that it's possible - it's just a question if it's more likely than not.
Apple PR: "We're being even more courageous - we're removing the battery, screen, cameras and microphones from our next smartphone. And don't worry about updates bricking it - it's a brick. We're calling it the iBrick. Taking the company in a whole new direction. And OUR innovation on the brick is - you guessed it - rounded corners!
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
What kind of person could turn 56 accidental deaths into a joke?
Mark Twain?
“Humor is tragedy plus time.”
What kind of person could turn 56 accidental deaths into a joke?
Anyone who uses humour as a way of dealing with things that would be too painful to deal with any other way?
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Happy Valentines
Too soon?
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What kind of person could turn 56 accidental deaths into a joke?
A person with a really good sense of humour.
"Grab them by the pussy" -- President of the United States of America
This kind of person.
Any sufficiently unpopular but cohesive argument is indistinguishable from trolling.
The don't use O2 on planes.
"In the unlikely event of a drop in cabin pressure, a nitrogen mask will drop down in front of you..."
BEA... trying to deflect the possibility that the Airbus window heater failed catastrophically (again). It's a known issue for both Airbus and Boeing.