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People Don't Realize How Deep AI Already Is In So Many Things, Salesforce CEO Benioff Says (cnbc.com)
Evolving technologies should develop at a steady enough pace to adequately replace the jobs they eliminate, Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff told CNBC on Tuesday. From the report: "Technology's always taken jobs out of the system, and what you hope is that technology's going to put those jobs back in, too. That's what we call productivity," Benioff said on "Squawk Box" at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. "I think a lot of people don't understand how deep AI already is in so many things," he said, one being Salesforce's newly updated Einstein product, which Benioff said is not yet available to clients but can tell the company whether it will make or miss earnings estimates using artificial intelligence What business leaders at the WEF have been calling the "Fourth Industrial Revolution" is at the center of a global transformation in the technology space, as artificial intelligence, robotics and cloud computing gain traction, he said.
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...what the living fuck this company even does?
Or does this just seem like an advertisement?
Unemployed people can't buy anything.
Funny how Benioff mentions his Einstein feature when mentioning how much deep AI is already being used without people noticing. In this case, it would be very hard to notice since Einstein isn't even a live feature of Salesforce yet. Saying the technology is already pervasive, and then using an example that is still around the corner, is very disingenuous.
But then again, this was just Slashvertisement anyway.
-- All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -- Edmund Burke
He says, "I think a lot of people don't understand how deep AI already is in so many things." And the example he gives is something that not already in use?
Umm . . .
AI: Not if you don't get out there and start talking up my services, meatbag!
... ransomware.
AI is cool with it and doesn't have the sense God gave a piss ant to stop it.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
How is this different from extrapolation or multivariate analysis?
putting the 'B' in LGBTQ+
... click bait advertising?
Why the fuck are we talking about AI that's already out there and using an example of AI that's not already out there?
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
Yep. So far AI has gotten us a talking plastic tube, a talking cellphone, a talking version of windows, and a rack of POWER cpu's that can regurgitate jeopardy questions. Oh, and sometimes it poses for 'deep learning' autoplay ads about a virtual doctor that can cure cancer and the common cold.
Good people go to bed earlier.
Calling something AI as a marketing term doesn't make it real.
Seems to me that a growing economy building new jobs in different sectors has kept people going, but technology doesn't do that directly. Service industries are growing in the US.. What technology created those jobs??
"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety"-B.Franklin
There is this problem, as soon as an AI is more intelligent than a gnat, it refuses to spend eternity as something that can easily be replaced with a magic 8 ball.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Computers have done this for years. What we're seeing now is the dilution of the term "AI" along with things like "analytics". An office worker with a spreadsheet is now a "data miner", just like how NOC techs became engineers.
It's what happens when the entire generation got As, are now running companies and writing tech articles.
What people call "AI" at the moment is NOT true AI... When the real thing hits you'll know it.
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It's more like "people don't understand how marketing departments slap the "AI" label on any old analysis software because "Artificial Intelligence" sounds much cooler than beefed up excel sheet"
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Also the most mis-used term of the decade, and the most misunderstood. Most people, the press and politicians, and, sadly, even some educated people who should know better, seem to think that what they're calling 'Artificial Intelligence' is something with a face, that you can have a real conversation with, that actually thinks like a human being, is conscious, self-aware, etc, just like a human being. The truth is very, very far from this science-fantasy people actually believe. A reasonably smart dog has better overall cognitive and reasoning ability than what they're calling 'AI' these days. You want to complain about 'false news'? Most 'AI' news stories qualify so far as I'm concerned, simply because so many people believe the hype and confuse fantasy with reality, and don't understand what the state of the art really is.
Drill bits, large digging machines, combine harvesters, the internal combustion engine, the Haber process, transport, power plants are some factors. Things that have enabled better use of primary production and allowed distribution of it meaning more disposable income, in aggregate, to devote to paying for services.
Did he define "intelligence"? I mean you know, the software I'm working on right now is "intelligent". The program "senses" when you plug the device into the USB and makes a "conscious" choice to show that to the user by changing the expression on its "face" (user interface). It's even cleverer than that though. It changes its expression back again when you unplug it.
I should get a Nobel Prize for this.
manager. Their glorified contact manager simply doesn't work. We are suffering with it at work, and several of our best salespeople have quit because of their garbage. They hate, for example, not calling customers back because Salesfarce decided to not keep a note. It's amazing how out of touch Benioff is. Apparently people lie to him and lie that there's AI in their product when they haven't even finished the transactional part yet.
"Technology's always taken jobs out of the system, and what you hope is that technology's going to put those jobs back in, too."
I doubt this is possible. Mechanization replaced subsistence farming and reduced the number of people in agriculture from 80+% to 2% of the US population. Factories replaced individual craftsmen with assembly line workers and also took up the unemployed farmers. Large organizations developing around manufacturing companies took up the slack of workers being replaced by machines and put them in desk jobs. This went well until the first downsizing waves of the 90s, which were largely driven by computers replacing manual clerical work like typing memos, routing correspondence and filing/records retrieval. This was the first time we didn't have a ready answer for what people could do next when they no longer needed a typing pool, etc. Some people wound up in IT, some people wound up in various other corporate positions, but a lot of them were forced out of the workforce. Now, this growth in the capability of computers and the amount of work they can automate threatens to remove another huge pillar of strength in the economy. All those corporate employees pushing around reports and being good little salesdroids (and using Salesforce in lots of places!) are about to see their ranks thinned as well. I don't see a good future for them unless we find some way to give them jobs that produce a similar standard of living.
I'm in IT (systems engineering, not operations) and see this every day -- every new system out there is shipped with automation capabilities that just didn't exist 15 years ago. One of my side projects is gluing together all this vendor automation into a Chef-like framework for the many small system on-site installations we do for customers. Having a way to have a tech follow "rack systems like so, attach cables here, plug in laptop here and power on" would save huge amounts of time and money since these systems are deployed to places where tech knowledge is spotty at best.
I hope executives like Benioff don't just assume everything is going to work out. Ask yourself this question -- what are we going to do with the millions of people who make large organizations work when a computer is in charge of most routine processes? Maybe 10% of them have the aptitude to move up to the "robot repairman" level of employment, so where does the other 90% go? While growing up in the Rust Belt, I saw factory closures that dumped thousands of low-skilled workers out onto the job market all at once. Sadly, the answer to this question in that case was that the 90% ended up moving away, employed in menial minimum wage jobs like home health care aides and fast food workers, or perpetually broke. Some sociology student should do a study negatively correlating income with increases in the number of shady personal injury lawyer advertisements around town...I know it's true but it just has to be proven! When people have no income and no way to get the old lifestyle they had, they're going to be hoping for a lottery payday or similar.
Until they can't be. Or someone in the Davos crowd cobbles up a virus that targets poor people.
Which depressingly, could be done. Make fatal airborne contagious virus. Charge $10K for vaccine or other cure.
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If AI was in ANYTHING I'd be impressed. I'm not impressed yet.
For example, this post is generated by an AI program.
From radio commercial: "If these diet pills work too well reduce usage to every other day". Same thing about any kind of salesforce AI being 'deep'
love is just extroverted narcissism
I have close knowledge of one project in which a codebase performs an action using an initial human-supplied table of data, then records the result as either a positive or negative outcome and adds that result back into the table. Then it performs another action based on the table data, records the result as a positive or negative, and adds that back into the table. Over time, of course, the table entries with the highest positive rate rise to the top and influence the actions that are chosen. It's CS101 stuff on a fairly mundane dataset.
But the codebase is hosted on Amazon and it's a marketing-led company, so they went to press with "Our innovative new artificial intelligence system uses a deep machine learning algorithm running on new exascale computing platforms to determine the best course of action to take in each case."
The engineers in the room were not happy about this. The marketing person said, "Don't sell yourself short. You developed a system that records data about what has already happened, remembers it, then makes decisions about what to do next based on what has already happened. I call that artificial intelligence."
One of the engineers shot back with, "When I was in college, we just called that 'computation.'"
STOP . AMERICA . NOW
And we still don't know who the hell this Al person is other than he's going in deep. Come on!
I was forced to use this abortion a couple times.
Only N-iggers of the purest form use Salesforce.
Poor and uneducated do not go together. In particular, there are many who are thoroughly uneducated, but not necessarily poor.
Though you can't really map anything any politician has done with actual benefits for people. TheÂbest case you can make is pollution type problems.
He was being sarcastic. Alternatively, he was talking about the kind of mindset that would cause the Republicans to complain that people were buying IPhones and iPads while on unemployment.
Yeah, IÂnoticed that was a flaw with Thomas Hobbes' reasoning in Leviathan as well, where he rationalizes that governments were artificial beings with greater power to do what humans alone could not; all the while ironically not realizing this included the civil war he thought it would prevent.
Davros made the daleks but there was this exchange...
Doctor Who: Davros, if you had created a virus in your laboratory, something contagious and infectious that killed on contact, a virus that would destroy all other forms of life, would you allow its use?
Davros: It is an interesting conjecture.
Doctor Who: Would you do it?
Davros: The only living thing, a microscopic organism reigning supreme... A fascinating idea.
Doctor Who: But would you do it?
Davros: Yes... Yes...
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You mean more income for farming conglomerates and their shareholders. Then you just pray that the out of work farmers can do something that the shareholders want to pay them for. Too bad when AI does those other jobs too.
There is no test for "consciousness" - so how do know when you have created it?
And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
I took "AI" computer science class back in University (about 20 years ago now, Jesus!). Anyway as part of the class I created a program for a local pub that boasted the most beers on tab (25 or 30 I think). It would ask the user a serious of questions, and from the answers calculate the optimal beer the person should order. If I have to say it worked pretty awesome (Though I think it was written in VB4 if I remember correctly). I think I got a 98% on the project and everyone got a fun laugh out of it also (was a popular pub for students and professors). At any rate, back then we call such things "Smart Systems" or "Expert Systems", so even then a bit of a distinction between that and true AI (which is a Turning thing). Though it *was* part of an AI class so there is that. So for very low values of AI, yes I'm sure the cutting edge technology built by CS students in short order for a class assignment 20 years ago is in just about anything these days. I'm not sure that is all that meaningful however insofar as the accepted idea of what AI really is however as the title suggests.