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Tech Firm Creates Trump Monitor For Stock Markets (reuters.com)

randomErr quotes a report from Reuters: London-based fintech firm Trading.co.uk is launching an app that will generate trading alerts for shares based on Donald Trump social media comments. Keeping one eye on the U.S. President-elect's personal Twitter feed has become a regular pastime for the fund managers and traders. Trump knocked several billion off the value of pharmaceutical stocks a week ago by saying they were "getting away with murder" with their prices. Comments earlier this week on China moved the dollar and a pair of December tweets sent the share prices of Lockheed Martin and Boeing spiraling lower. That plays to the growing group of technology startups that use computing power to process millions of messages posted online every day and generate early warnings on when shares are likely to move. Trading.co.uk chief Gareth Mann said the Trump signal generator used artificial intelligence technology to differentiate between tweets or other messages that, for example, just mention Boeing and those liable to move markets.

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  1. He's off his rocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    I just hope I never see the blinding flash of a nuclear bomb while looking out the windscreen of my lorry. Who cares if he moves a few stocks up and down. The real danger is putting that madman in charge of your arsenal.

    1. Re:He's off his rocker by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      fucking moron. Hillary was way more of a war monger than Trump ever pretended to be.

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    2. Re:He's off his rocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Hillary's practically a saint compared to this fucking Cheeto.

    3. Re:He's off his rocker by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Cough cough cough I have Pneumonia stumble fall faint.

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    4. Re:He's off his rocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just hope I never see the blinding flash of a nuclear bomb ... the real danger is putting that madman in charge of your arsenal.

      fucking moron. Hillary was way more of a war monger than Trump ever pretended to be.

      Yeah it's just amazing that people seem to forget how many nuclear warheads Hillary unleashed on an unsuspecting world while she was Secretary. Talk about being brainwashed by mainstream media!!

    5. Re:He's off his rocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reductio ad absurdum. Hillary Clinton was involved with the outgoing administration while they conducted several military operations, and she is a well known war hawk. It is entirely likely she would have embroiled us in further conflicts while President just like her boss did.

      But unfortunately left wing progressives and Democrats are blind to it, which is another reason why they have lost so many seats around the country.

    6. Re:He's off his rocker by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2, Interesting

      1. As a senator, Hillary voted for the Iraq war.
      2. As secretary of state, she supported the intervention in Libya.
      3. She advocated for deeper American involvement in Syria.
      All of these have been unmitigated disasters for America, so her judgement doesn't appear to be so good.

      I expect Trump to be a terrible president, but his preference for non-interventionism in foreign affairs is one of his few good points. Another good point about his presidency is the entertainment value. Popcorn sales should go way up. Hillary would have been dull.

    7. Re:He's off his rocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      just take two golden showers and call me in the morning.

    8. Re:He's off his rocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      Real, widely viewed video of Clinton having a seiz...UHHH...I mean succumbing to oppressive 78 degree heat.
      vs.
      Anonymous allegations denounced as bullshit by every credible intelligence expert on the planet.

      Never mind, though; I get that childish, fact-free insults are the only form of 'persuasion' you know and nothing can deter you. Hell, "Drumpf" is still going strong after almost a year even though it was thoroughly debunked about 30 seconds after Oliver vomited it out of his smughole.

      Anyway, yes, Trump is infinitely less likely to start WW3 than Hillary, who seemed to be actively trying to spark a direct confrontation with Russia in Syria. The era of Team America: World Police is over.

    9. Re:He's off his rocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reductio ad absurdum

      That does not mean what you think it means! (Look it up sometime).

      Hillary Clinton was involved with the outgoing administration while they conducted several military operations, and she is a well known war hawk.

      Not relevant: The issue here is not whether Clinton would involve the US in war, but whether she would involve the world in nuclear war. While Clinton may indeed have been a "warmonger," she did not cause any nuclear warheads to be detonated.

      It is entirely likely she would have embroiled us in further conflicts while President just like her boss did.

      Again not relevant: It may be entirely likely. But again that is not to say it is any more likely that a level-headed hawk such as Clinton would involve the world in nuclear conflict than a loose cannon like Trump is. Quite the opposite actually.

      But unfortunately left wing progressives and Democrats are blind to it ...

      Also not relevant. Logical thinking isn't your bag, is it?

    10. Re:He's off his rocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      His preference for non-interventionism in foreign affairs is one of his few good points

      WTF?! He is not even President yet and he has practically started a new cold-war (hopefully cold) with China. Have you not been paying attention?

    11. Re: He's off his rocker by dougdonovan · · Score: 0

      im sorry but i have a feeling nathan rothchild may have something to say about this soon if...jason...his father...keeps him in the will.

    12. Re:He's off his rocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember when Hillary wanted to start a war over rude gestures?

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/09/09/trump-iranian-boats-that-make-improper-gestures-will-be-shot-out-of-the-water/

      Remember when Hillary asked why we cant use nuclear weapons?

      http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/03/trump-asks-why-us-cant-use-nukes-msnbcs-joe-scarborough-reports.html

      Its all good though, Trump knows more then the generals.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-Mjy9ETtRY

    13. Re:He's off his rocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. As a senator, Hillary voted for the Iraq war.
      2. As secretary of state, she supported the intervention in Libya.
      3. She advocated for deeper American involvement in Syria.

      All of these have been unmitigated disasters for America, so her judgement doesn't appear to be so good. I expect Trump to be a terrible president, but his preference for non-interventionism in foreign affairs is one of his few good points.

      Trump's biggest complaint was a lack of American involvement in the Middle East. He thought we abandoned Iraq and Syria. He even promoted the idea of looting Iraq for American profit. The only reason he pretended to be against the Iraq war was he recognized how deeply unpopular it remains. He's never been an isolationist, and if he doesn't involve us in any armed conflicts, it'd be so he could let his pal Putin conquer back a few more territories.

      Another good point about his presidency is the entertainment value. Popcorn sales should go way up. Hillary would have been dull.

      What, do you have a peanut farm in Georgia or something?

    14. Re: He's off his rocker by dougdonovan · · Score: 0

      donald...u better have plans 2 bank roll the rothchilds...500 trillion...come on dude...u own new york at a minimum...hire the rothchilds & let them live in india.

    15. Re:He's off his rocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Killary only started wars as secretary of state with smaller countries that she could wipe off the map like Iraq and smaller though, while evil, not really a threat to world peace. While Trump says some stupid things, I think he's actually a lot more calculated than he comes off. I think Bush Junior was a much bigger threat to world peace, and the world survived him. I wish we could have Bill Clinton back again, he was so busy getting his weiner sucked in the oval office America could do it's thing without government getting in the way. Best president ever.

    16. Re:He's off his rocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      practically started a new cold-war (hopefully cold) with China

      He talks against China, Obama did start new military exercises in Russian border, expelled diplomats and their chefs, and is questioning the American elections in a red scare.

    17. Re:He's off his rocker by dbIII · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As a senator, Hillary voted for the Iraq war

      As did every single Republican and most of the Democrats.

      As secretary of state, she supported the intervention in Libya

      As President, Reagan bombed Libya.

      She advocated for deeper American involvement in Syria

      So did McCain and many many others.


      Now she doesn't matter. It's those many many others who wanted to act the same way who are still in power are the ones you should be taking to task unless you don't care about being seen as hopelessly partisan and amoral.

      entertainment value

      Get back to me in a year and let's see if you think that entertainment was worth it.

    18. Re:He's off his rocker by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Hillary was way more of a war monger

      ...than who? The actual warmongers of this world? Despite all the involvement of the US in global politics, there's never been a short supply of regional crazies. The idea that Hillary is/was a warmonger is an idea from the bottom of your liquor bottle. The same goes for Trump, actually.

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    19. Re:He's off his rocker by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      All of these have been unmitigated disasters for America, so her judgement doesn't appear to be so good.

      That only tells us she wouldn't be a better pacifist than Obama and Bush Jr. Not that she'd end the world as we know it, which is apparently what a lot of Trump supporters want you to think.

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    20. Re:He's off his rocker by Maritz · · Score: 2

      Sure looks like his stance on vaccines is going to have an associated bodycount. But hey, it's all about the popcorn.

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    21. Re:He's off his rocker by hipp5 · · Score: 1

      Another good point about his presidency is the entertainment value. Popcorn sales should go way up. Hillary would have been dull.

      Right. Because entertainment value is what we should be looking for in the most powerful person in the world. /sarcasm

      Seriously, isn't that what you Americans have the Kardashians for?

    22. Re:He's off his rocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Real, widely viewed quotes and actions from Trump displaying alarming idiocy from everything from nuclear weapons to climate change, his constant lies and his extreme fraud (Trump university settled for $25m), his utter lack of character, his tax evasion and refusal to submit his tax returns - the list goes on forever.

      As for Clinton, conspiracy theories about Pizzagate, Clinton Foundation, and World War 3.

    23. Re:He's off his rocker by GLMDesigns · · Score: 1

      There isn't a cold war on the horizon unless China keeps pushing it's one china policy and tries to prevent traffic from going through the South China Seas. Vietnam, India, South Korea and Japan are extremely concerned about this. The Philippines I don't know. Their position has been changing.

      Trade war is not going to happen. It will hurt both sides too much. China has been devaluating their currency in order to keep exports strong. They have been limiting imports. Trump has been pushing back (so what).

      Trade War. Cold War. Nuclear War. grow up people.

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    24. Re:He's off his rocker by higuita · · Score: 1

      yep, because all other wars went so well for the USA and were always voted by both sides...

      by the way, how will he "destroy ISIL"? by twitter?

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    25. Re:He's off his rocker by Coren22 · · Score: 2

      his tax evasion

      If you have evidence of him evading taxes, you should contact the IRS, as it is, they have audited him ever year for a while and found no evidence of your accusation. You might be able to make a huge difference if you can bring this evidence forward.

      As for Clinton, conspiracy theories about Pizzagate, Clinton Foundation, and World War 3.

      Wow, just wow. You seem to have forgotten dodging the records act, having classified information on a home server, and encouraging aides to commit a felony by removing classification markings from classified documents. Oh well, Trump is so horrible in comparison...because you don't like him.

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    26. Re:He's off his rocker by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Did I miss some incredible news? Did Trump launch a nuclear warhead?

      how many nuclear warheads Hillary unleashed on an unsuspecting world while she was Secretary.

      The same number that Trump has unleashed.

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    27. Re:He's off his rocker by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Bill Clinton for President of the Galaxy?

      The President is always a controversial choice, always an infuriating but fascinating character. His job is not to wield power but to draw attention away from it.

      - HHGTTG

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    28. Re:He's off his rocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What it be like to be a n i g g e r monkey in da ghetto Coren22 http://twicsy.com/u/Coren22/ ?

    29. Re:He's off his rocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Coren22 in his n i g g e r ghetto monkey natural habitat http://twicsy.com/u/Coren22/

  2. Worrying by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The really worrying thing is that he is so easy to trigger. His favourite news site is breitbart, and Twitter is largely unfiltered. How long until someone engineers a stock crash for their own monetary benefit?

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    1. Re:Worrying by Zaelath · · Score: 1

      "Trash Flash Crash" will be the phrase of 2017, because Trump doesn't rhyme.

    2. Re:Worrying by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      Trump Bump
      Trump Dump

      There, it rhymes.

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    3. Re:Worrying by Zaelath · · Score: 1

      Makes for some scary headlines though: Trump Dump wipes 15%

    4. Re:Worrying by rmdingler · · Score: 1

      The really worrying thing is that he is so easy to trigger. His favourite news site is breitbart, and Twitter is largely unfiltered. How long until someone engineers a stock crash for their own monetary benefit?

      Well, you've thought of it... so in all likelihood, has someone with something to gain. It has been done already.

      Trading.co.uk chief Gareth Mann said the Trump signal generator used artificial intelligence technology to differentiate between tweets or other messages

      Artificial or no, this represents a rare occasion to use the two words in the same sentence, doesn't it?

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    5. Re:Worrying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What do you mean, "until"? This already happens all the time, and Trump personally has probably been doing it for years.

      I'd be willing to bet that at least one person associated with the Trump crime family was buying shares in Lockheed and/or Boeing last month. Very possibly Trump himself.

      This is why the president is expected to remove his business-related conflicts of interest. Trump has made no pretense at doing that, he's just there to milk the country for all it's worth. Welcome to kleptocracy.

    6. Re:Worrying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh this is easy -

      Trump and Dump

      Buy up Peny stocks, goad Trump in to tweeting about it, dump stocks while their price spikes.

    7. Re:Worrying by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Trump Bump
      Trump Dump

      There, it rhymes.

      Trump Slump.

      Was that so hard?

    8. Re:Worrying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The really worrying thing is that he is so easy to trigger.

      No, the really worrying part is that the stock market is so fucking fragile that such a stupid comment can bring prices down. I mean, it can't be because millions of shareholders suddenly grew a conscious and realized "y'know, he's right, they are charging too much. I'm gonna sell my stock to show that I don't support such high drug prices">

    9. Re:Worrying by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 1

      The really worrying thing is that he is so easy to trigger.

      "Trump took the jab personally. He filed a $5 million lawsuit against Maher for breach of contract, alleging that when he provided his birth certificate to Maher proving he is not, in fact, the son of an orangutan, Maher never came up with the $5 million" http://www.motherjones.com/pol...

    10. Re:Worrying by greengene · · Score: 2

      "Trumped-Up Pump-and-Dump"?

    11. Re:Worrying by ClickOnThis · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The really worrying thing is that he is so easy to trigger.

      No, the really worrying part is that the stock market is so fucking fragile that such a stupid comment can bring prices down. I mean, it can't be because millions of shareholders suddenly grew a conscious and realized "y'know, he's right, they are charging too much. I'm gonna sell my stock to show that I don't support such high drug prices">

      I don't know about you, but when it comes to fragility, I'm a whole lot more concerned about Trump than the stock market.

      The stock market has a multitude of agents across the world, pushing in different directions. Trump is one single person who has control of the most powerful bully pulpit on Earth. You tell me what/who is more likely to fly off the handle.

      And to put a finer point on it: the stock market doesn't have nukes.

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    12. Re:Worrying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any such Trump-investment app should involve the "truthful hyperbole" factor in its risk models. I'm not entirely sure if the factor is a scalar, however.

    13. Re:Worrying by AmiMoJo · · Score: 0

      Take some small comfort in the knowledge that Trump isn't completely unrestrained. Putin will curb his worst excesses when they start to affect Russia or if they somehow turn out to be good for the US.

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    14. Re:Worrying by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Even by Trump's standards that's batshit insane.

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    15. Re:Worrying by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      It uses AI to differentiate tweets from messages? By what, going to twitter.com instead of sms?

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    16. Re:Worrying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have no intelligence. You are a n i g g e r monkey Coren22 http://twicsy.com/u/Coren22/

    17. Re:Worrying by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Interesting APK, so you create an account somewhere and try and act like you are me? How original, you yet again act like you are someone else.

      Either that, or you don't realize I don't have a Twitter account. Hint, I am a white guy.

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    18. Re:Worrying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't see apk here. I do see you quoted saying apk said something in the link given you can't back up Coren22. You lied. Apk did show he said very differently over 11 years ago in a security guide he did.

    19. Re:Worrying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure coren22. Most simian like white guy ever!

    20. Re:Worrying by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Just because someone uses the same handle as me does not mean it is me. I don't use Twitter. I am not you APK, so stop acting like you can pull me down to your level you racist degenerate.

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  3. Speculative Trading by Notabadguy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Stock value these days is speculative, and has virtually nothing to do with tangible value.

    When pointing out common sense things (Lockheed asking $800,000 per round for a gun is too much) or (Pharmaceutical companies are charging more than the average american can afford) causes stock prices to plummet - they were overvalued.

    Then again, statistically rounded - 100% of trading is HFT and is a scam anyway, so....it doesn't matter. Again.

    1. Re:Speculative Trading by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If the soon-to-be head of the Executive makes statements that look like they're going to lead to interference in a business's activities, you're saying there ought not be some sort of inevitable alteration in that company's overall trading performance? I'm not really sure you understand what stocks are, or what a stockmarket is.

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    2. Re:Speculative Trading by amiga3D · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Stocks were intended to be shares in a company that provided dividends in return for investment. What they actually are is gambling. People trade based on what they think a share will do and not really whether the company will actually make money. Thus when he said they were overvalued anyway he is stating the truth based on what stocks were intended to be. I remember when I thought about investing 10 grand in Amazon back in the early days. I teetered on the edge for days but finally resisted. I just couldn't bring myself to buy into something that was little more than a script running on a server. At the time they had no warehouses and distribution centers. I'm still kicking myself.

    3. Re:Speculative Trading by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Informative

      Investing is always a gamble. You're giving a company capital and hoping that that company makes sufficient money that they can either pay you dividends, or that the value of your shares go up enough that you can sell them to make a profit. A share is a piece of property, to be used either as a means of collecting dividends, or to be sold.

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    4. Re:Speculative Trading by Xenographic · · Score: 1

      Lots of government announcements impact the share price of companies. If this leads companies to do things like bilk the citizens of the US out of less money to avoid getting called out, I don't think many people are going to have a problem with it, aside from those who are looking for problems to have.

      Inasmuch as this is a problem, it's because the value of companies is so speculative, i.e. what can I get another sucker to pay for this thing, rather than objective, e.g. what dividends does this pay?

    5. Re:Speculative Trading by Bite+The+Pillow · · Score: 2

      Notabadguy is 80% wrong, and Amiga3D has some good points. But no, Trumpenfuhrer making statements should not affect stocks because EVERYONE SHOULD ALREADY KNOW. We know about the fed raising rates, we know about upcoming regulation. There are no overnight surprises from the government, statistically speaking.

      Until now, the tiny fingered, cheeto colored shitgibbon just says what's on his tiny little mind and individual 401(k) plans eat dick for a week. And the people who don't have all day to day trade just watch, while the 20% of HFT make billions on penny increases and front running.

      Overall, stock price is a reflection of market value. But when Trumpster Fire says junk that won't happen, because the Republicans who pass the laws don't like him, that's moving prices on horseshit.

    6. Re:Speculative Trading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When pointing out common sense things (Lockheed asking $800,000 per round for a gun is too much)

      A round for a gun. That's how you describe the Shell for the Zumwalt class's naval artillery.

      Huh. That's not common sense. That's stupidity masquerading as sensible, but ignoring the reality that Lockheed wants to recoup their development costs, and when you cut down from 32 to 3 ships, you're going to need fewer shells, which means the unit costs go up.

      This is as bad as when Mitt Romney was ranting over the number of ships in the Navy.

      Moronic, nothing more.

    7. Re: Speculative Trading by Feature+Film · · Score: 2

      Are you implying that Amazon hasn't made money in that time?

    8. Re:Speculative Trading by Notabadguy · · Score: 1

      Day Trading has been dead for a long time.

      http://www.businessinsider.com...

      That's the first google link, but there's many more.

    9. Re:Speculative Trading by Notabadguy · · Score: 1

      Stupidity masquerading as sensible is the idea of procuring a naval artillery shell to the specs proposed in the first place. There are ample means of creating precision destruction - from cruise missiles to smart missiles to laser-guided missiles to boots on the ground.

    10. Re:Speculative Trading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hohohohoho @ notMightyMartian blown down by apk https://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10130851&cid=53684953/

  4. Trump wins. Democrats suck ass. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Obama was useless. Lame ass duck.

  5. That's what we call a buying opportunity. by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wait for Trump to say something stupid that knocks a chunk of money off of a stock, wait a few hours for it to crash, buy low, and sell it after a week when the price rebounds. Once again, the ultra-wealthy with their high-frequency traders get richer, and normal people's retirement funds get poorer....

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    1. Re:That's what we call a buying opportunity. by chispito · · Score: 2

      wait a few hours for it to crash, buy low, and sell it after a week when the price rebounds. Once again, the ultra-wealthy with their high-frequency traders get richer, and normal people's retirement funds get poorer....

      Does that require high frequency trading?

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    2. Re:That's what we call a buying opportunity. by quonset · · Score: 2

      the ultra-wealthy with their high-frequency traders get richer, and normal people's retirement funds get poorer....

      How is a person's retirement fund getting poorer if the price of a stock rebounds in a week? Unless the person sells that stock in that short time period nothing has changed. The value of their retirement fund is the same as it was the week before.

      You could argue, unsuccessfully, that the week downturn "cost" that person's retirement account because had Trump not said anything the downturn wouldn't have happened, but there is no way to know if something else would have affected that stock in the same time.

      Holding on to good quality stocks and/or mutual funds will, in the end, make you more wealthy than buying and selling at the drop of a hat.

    3. Re:That's what we call a buying opportunity. by dgatwood · · Score: 2

      How is a person's retirement fund getting poorer if the price of a stock rebounds in a week?

      Because the stock price dropping by more than a small amount indicates a significant amount of selling, and there's a decent chance that a chunk of that selling came from big funds.

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    4. Re:That's what we call a buying opportunity. by quantaman · · Score: 1

      Wait for Trump to say something stupid that knocks a chunk of money off of a stock, wait a few hours for it to crash, buy low, and sell it after a week when the price rebounds. Once again, the ultra-wealthy with their high-frequency traders get richer, and normal people's retirement funds get poorer....

      Unless that tweet turns into a punitive regulatory action, then you've just lost a chunk of your savings.

      Assuming dumb mistakes on the part of professional investors is a very good way to lose money.

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    5. Re:That's what we call a buying opportunity. by Pfhorrest · · Score: 2

      If you're invested in index funds, as you should be, the performance of your investment tracks the performance of the overall market, so if things bounce back in a week, it doesn't matter to you if a bunch of inefficiently human-managed mutual funds lost a bunch of money in that dip, the market is back up so so are your indexed investments and you're still doing just fine.

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    6. Re:That's what we call a buying opportunity. by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      He's still using a broker that submits orders via teletype...

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    7. Re:That's what we call a buying opportunity. by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      If you're invested in index funds, as you should be

      Since I'm pretty young (only 30) so I have plenty of time, my plan is to wait until we have the next tech bubble crash which will likely damage the value of index funds. That way I can shift part of my 401k and personal savings into the index funds when they are low and ride the recovery wave. I'll just have to talk the wife into letting me do so.

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    8. Re:That's what we call a buying opportunity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What makes you think he hasn't already been capitalizing on his market moving tweets?

    9. Re:That's what we call a buying opportunity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait for Trump to say something stupid ... sell it after a week when the price rebounds...

      Given track record, I very much doubt Trump can keep his mouth shut long enough for stock to recover.

  6. Just amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that someone who has no clue how to run a business or deal with financials can have this much sway

    he's gotten lucky all through life. i've seen other wealthy people like this, dumb as a box of rocks and no clue how anything really works in the world, yet they have a ton of money and got lucky owning and running a company that somehow hasn't gone under yet.

    1. Re:Just amazing by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      I doubt it's luck. I'm sure he has some very skillful lawyers and accountants working for him, and they make all the deals. He's just the brand name.

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    2. Re:Just amazing by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 0

      Liberals always cite "luck" as the only ingredient that makes people "rich".

      Luck is nothing more than when Preparation Meets Opportunity. If you invested your hard earned money instead of buying an iPod, iPhone or iPad (when they came out) , into Apple stock, you'd be able to buy all three today, and have money left over.

      So, most people fail in preparing for success, never see opportunity when i happens, and blame it all on "bad luck"

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    3. Re:Just amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Born into a wealthy family

      given a shit ton of money by daddy

      daddy hand held this pussy's ass for years and got him the connections needed for a total childish retard to not totally fail.

      um, yeah, it's luck. Dad was the hard worker, the umpa lumpa has just been lucky to get to a point where it's difficult to fail

    4. Re:Just amazing by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2

      No, it's what the gp said: "born rich" was his preparation, and "born rich" was his opportunity. You and me should have been smart enough to plan ahead like that.

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    5. Re:Just amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Conservatives always cite "hard work" as the only ingredient that makes people "rich".

      If you are lucky enough to get offered a opportunity moments before the next hard worker who worked even harder than you did, they blame it on the other guy not having worked hard enough. They think their success is because they are a special snowflake. These are the type people who think if not for Bill Gates we wouldn't have computers.

      And then you have the people lucky enough to be born rich. Those are the hardest working of all, eh?

    6. Re:Just amazing by Falos · · Score: 1

      It's not my fault you weren't smart enough and Iworkhard enough to bribe the ovarian lottery.

    7. Re:Just amazing by unixisc · · Score: 1

      that someone who has no clue how to run a business or deal with financials can have this much sway

      he's gotten lucky all through life. i've seen other wealthy people like this, dumb as a box of rocks and no clue how anything really works in the world, yet they have a ton of money and got lucky owning and running a company that somehow hasn't gone under yet.

      The real amazement is that someone who has 'no clue how to run a business or deal with financials' is a billionaire. I don't either - how do I pull that off?

    8. Re:Just amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You win the birth lottery.
      Like Trump and Devoss both did.
      Then you have parents that spend money to keep you from ever having to deal with the full consequences of bad choices.
      Like Trump and Devoss both did.
      As a result you never have to learn to be competent. Money always takes care of the mistakes for you.
      If you aren't a total idiot you have highly competent financial managers take of handling your money for you so that it just keeps growing all on its own.

      Being mega-rich means that you are coddled in ways us proles can't even imagine.

    9. Re:Just amazing by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      The real amazement is that someone who has 'no clue how to run a business or deal with financials' is a billionaire. I don't either - how do I pull that off?

      The best way to pull it off is to have a parent from whom you inherit many billions of assets. That way you can afford to lose a few billion here and there through incompetence and still be a billionaire.

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    10. Re:Just amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what are you saying, that Donald somehow prepared prior to his very existence to be born to a billionaire daddy that gave him the seed money to become as wealthy as he is?

      I know you're a god bothered and probably believe in nonsense like the afterlife but are you saying you believe in some kind of before life too where you get to decide if you're going to be born rich or not?

      Or are you just going to admit that your whole argument is absolutely fucking stupid, and the reason you'll never be rich is because you believe such boot licking drivel in the first place?

    11. Re:Just amazing by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      If you invested your hard earned money instead of buying an iPod, iPhone or iPad (when they came out) , into Apple stock, you'd be able to buy all three today, and have money left over.

      Back in the early 80s my grandparents bought $100 worth of Apple stock. They promptly forgot about it as Apple didn't pay out dividends for years. All of a sudden a couple years ago they got a check in the mail from Apple once they started paying out again. Turns out their stock had been split a few times and ended up owning about $20k worth of shares that they sold off. Not bad for a $100 investment. If only they could have been able to afford $1000 worth of stock back then, but my grandfather was a college basketball coach and not making all that much money.

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    12. Re:Just amazing by deadwill69 · · Score: 1

      It's amazing how well you can do when you have daddy's money. Based on most calculations I have read, he would be twice as rich if he had just put it in the bank.

      http://www.moneytalksnews.com/...

  7. Buddies by itamblyn · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I just assumed he was doing this so his buddies can short the stocks

    1. Re:Buddies by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That may be giving him a lot more credit than he's due. I've honestly seen little indication that he's sufficiently coherent or possesses a long enough attention span to actually create such a strategy.

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    2. Re:Buddies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On the flipside this arbitrary exercise of power is the ideal swamp breeding ground.
      When you have someone in power who doesn't mind crushing companies at a whim the only logical choice is to suck-up to him.

      Worshipers of the God Emperror will see that as an opportunity for Trump to make companies behave like good corporate citizens. Realists will recognize it as the most powerful invitation to corruption in modern history.

    3. Re:Buddies by aristotheron · · Score: 0

      you are such a fucking moron and this moderation system is fixed

      every shit you fart out is modded up automatically, and you never have a worthwhile point of view that is adequately supported

    4. Re:Buddies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol.
      I find your lack of self-awareness amusing.
      Pray I do not alter the terms of moderation any further.

    5. Re:Buddies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That may be giving him a lot more credit than he's due. I've honestly seen little indication that he's sufficiently coherent or possesses a long enough attention span to actually create such a strategy.

      Who says he has to hatch the plot himself? Maybe one of his chums hatched it, he is just the guy in the group that got the task of becoming the public influential figure. You are still buying into the counter-information that says the buck stops at the POTUS' desk.

    6. Re:Buddies by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

      He managed to become president.
      You can't do that by being a complete retard. You can however look like a retard if it gets you votes from an important part of the population.

    7. Re:Buddies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was the theory about bush#2.
      And look how that turned out.

      No, trump has one skill - he knows how to kick an anthill and then stomp on ants.
      Its the same trick he's been doing since high-school when his antics eventually got him sent to military school (instead of juvie like a poor kid would have).

      And it mostly works because he a sociopath so has no empathy for the ants and was born rich so he'd always had really good ant-stomping shoes and ant-proof socks.

    8. Re:Buddies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've always wondered if he did want to win in the first place. I like to think that it was just something that got out of his hands, and his supporters. Not that it makes things any better, of course.

  8. like a Baby Monitor by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    cry = buy......shit = sell.

  9. Not luck at all by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you followed Trump at all before the election, you'd realize that Trump is actually quite smart, and really does understand not only how the world works but is especially excellent at negotiation and hiring good talent.

    Some of the things he's saying over Twitter are calibrated to make him look dumb, so that people underestimate him. It's funny to me that people say Trump has a huge ego, therefore he needs attention from press and media... it's because Trump has a huge ego that none of that matters to him. He is ecstatic that people continue to fall for the lie Trump is dumb, because it makes it so easy for him to move forward with whatever he wants to do and surprise everyone.

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    1. Re:Not luck at all by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2

      If you followed Trump at all before the election, you'd realize that Trump is actually quite smart

      I did follow him before the election, and came to the conclusion that he's as dumb as he is ignorant, and as ignorant as he is assholy.

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    2. Re:Not luck at all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've seen who he's appointing to different positions. No he has no skill for hiring good talent. Not a single person he's bringing on board is remotely qualified for that position. A retarded trained butcher, er I mean neurosurgeon, as the head of HUD? Ben Carson is a complete fucking retard. He's a Dr. and that is it, his knowledge on anything else on life ends right there.

      An old ass fucker with no technical knowledge or skill as the head of Cyber Security, really? Who the fuck does that? Someone who doesn't have a clue what they are doing.

      Trump is going to run this country like he did his casinos. Into the ground.

    3. Re:Not luck at all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trump, the only man dumb enough to kill both the Bush and Clinton dynasties in the same election, while spending half as much as them combined. Some idiot, right?

    4. Re:Not luck at all by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      I've seen who he's appointing to different positions. No he has no skill for hiring good talent. Not a single person he's bringing on board is remotely qualified for that position.

      That's because you don't understand what people in leadership positions do...

      Sorry about that, but it's on you - not Trump.

      DeVos alone as education secretary is enough to make up for any slack in other picks. She may actually be able to help fix the dire state of public education.

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    5. Re:Not luck at all by unixisc · · Score: 1

      This is what struck me, and one thing I love about him. In 2008, even though I disagreed strongly w/ Obama, I supported him b'cos I wanted both Hilary and McCain to be downed, and he did it. This election cycle, he ended first the Bush, and then the Clinton dynasty. Although to be fair, even had Trump not been in the race, Rubio or Cruz may have toppled Bush at least, if not Clinton

    6. Re:Not luck at all by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      DeVos alone as education secretary is enough to make up for any slack in other picks. She may actually be able to help fix the dire state of public education.

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    7. Re:Not luck at all by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      Yes, left-leaning media and supporters of the teacher's unions don't like DeVos. Of course, the current state of public education makes their position untenable... Unless you simply want to push a political agenda, that is.

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    8. Re:Not luck at all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you followed Trump at all before the election, you'd realize that Trump is actually quite smart, and really does understand not only how the world works but is especially excellent at negotiation and hiring good talent.

      Lol. You are one of those worshipers who thinks he's a 4D-chess grandmaster.

      Trump learned one lesson - if are already rich and powerful and you create chaos you are then in the best position to grab as much as possible for yourself while everybody is distracted by the chaos. That's his sole skill - being rich and being sociopathic enough to fuck over everybody in order to takes advantage of the weaker people scrambling to survive the chaos he created it.

      The problem is, that only helps him. It hurts everyone else around him, even people who think they are his allies. Sometimes his allies get lucky, but most of the time they get screwed to.

      Tools like you aren't even his allies. You were just fuel for his ego.

    9. Re:Not luck at all by dbIII · · Score: 1

      really does understand not only how the world works but is especially excellent at negotiation and hiring good talent.

      If you actually think that instead of singing the praises of The Party Leader like a good Komrade then you are definitely not getting out much.
      Turns out his treasury "talent" forgot about more than 100 million the other day.

    10. Re:Not luck at all by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      is especially excellent at negotiation and hiring good talent.

      Indeed, he claims to have personally vetted every hire at his Trump University scam. To be fair to him they performed well, using high pressure sales tactics to rip off their victims in a most efficient manner. It only really failed because of his own incompetence at making it look legit and fighting the victim's lawsuit.

      I guess he probably has some negotiation skills too, since you would hope he at least read that book he put his name on. I mean, it was written by someone else, but you would think he had read it afterwards.

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    11. Re:Not luck at all by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      you'd realize that Trump is actually quite smart,

      He doesn't come across as smart.

      and really does understand not only how the world works

      His views on Putin indicate strongly otherwise.

      the world works but is especially excellent at negotiation

      No, not really. He has a habit of not paying people and then using the weight of the legal system to make it hard for them to get paid. That's not good negotiation, that's being scum.

      Some of the things he's saying over Twitter are calibrated to make him look dumb,

      Yes indeed!

      so that people underestimate him

      Oh, so he does know cyber then?

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  10. It won't work for long by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

    Traders will soon learn that he fires his mouth off about everything but rarely backs it up, and changes his mind about 20 times a week. They'll stop reacting to what he says because it is just noise.

    1. Re:It won't work for long by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They'll stop reacting to what he says because it is just noise.

      That is not how the stock market works. Traders will react because they think other traders will react, and they want a first-mover advantage. Other than tweeting, it doesn't matter what Trump does or doesn't do. He just needs to trigger the feedback loop.

    2. Re:It won't work for long by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Missing the positive spin: Trump saying "we have the bestest economy and are going to build things" until he's blue in the face will increase spending and increase stock values.

  11. his kids will do it however by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Son in law at least is already preparing to cover the paper trail.
    1) "Hey dad, China is dragging their feet on the new hotel. They said you aren't cool any more."
    2) "YEARRRRGH!!! TRUMP SMASH!!!"
    3) tweet
    4) profit!

  12. If nothing happens it becomes negative feedback by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

    Trump says X, traders jump on positions that would benefit from X to try and get out in front. However other than the speculative betting there isn't much movement. Then X doesn't happen, so there is no long term movement. The traders disengage from their positions trying to take as little loss as possible.

    This happens over and over and more will learn that acting just loses you money. It's why markets don't do fuck-all in response to Alex Jones. It isn't like his message isn't out there for the world to see, and actually more widely watched than I can fathom, but they don't believe anything will happen based on it so trying to get a first mover advantage can't happen.

    You only gain an advantage by getting in first if the move happens. If it doesn't, at best maybe you can get out without a loss but usually you are going to take a hit to some degree. Thus you act only on those things that are likely to generate a move.

    Traditionally, things the president said would qualify. However Trump is anything but traditional. He shoots his mouth off all the time, regularly contradicts himself, and changes his mind often.

  13. So ... you choose Death! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The era of Team America: World Police is over.

    The Time of the Chinese Dragon has come ...

  14. We need more 'crashes' like this by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    So Trump has riled the markets by, so far: criticizing an overpriced aircraft, and being the first Republican to not kiss the butt of the pharma lobby.

    I'm hoping for some more Wall Street action like this.

    1. Re:We need more 'crashes' like this by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      Well, he also under-spent the budget for his transition. I guess that shows he doesn't understand Governmental budgeting because he's not spending it all? Or some such "failure" by not spending it all...

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    2. Re:We need more 'crashes' like this by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      CNN will doubtless spin this as Trump starving the vital Washington party planning industry ("See! Homophobic!").

  15. President-Asterisk Trump by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 1

    Unless that tweet turns into a punitive regulatory action, then you've just lost a chunk of your savings.

    This is a good point. We've gotten used to the Prince Jeoffrey phase of this drama, but winter is coming. The King Jeoffrey phase will be much different.

    In less than 24 hours he goes from being President-Elect Trump to President* Trump, and those tweets might come with executive orders attached. (Twitter is gonna support that, they don't know it yet, but they'll do it soon, believe me.)

    *illegitimately

    1. Re:President-Asterisk Trump by dbIII · · Score: 1

      In less than 24 hours he goes from being President-Elect Trump to President* Trump

      Nowhere enough time for enough PEEOTUS jokes.

  16. Re:paying attention by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    Rhetoric is not reality. All you've been paying attention to is the rhetoric.

  17. Re:Bags by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    Nor is it yours apparently. Trump is most known for being involved in the building of several large buildings, not for being a madman. Sure, his behavior is eccentrically self-promoting, but other than that his behavior isn't noted for madness. I can predict that one of his next moves is to claim credit for the medical bill that the Republican Congress hashes out that he will claim his administration submitted.

  18. Rhetoric is real by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rhetoric is not reality.

    The Chinese respond to rhetoric no less than the stock-market does. That is the "reality" here. We are talking about a cold war and you think rhetoric is unimportant?! Srsly!

    All you've been paying attention to ...

    Don't be silly, you've no idea what I have or haven't been paying attention to. However, you've enunciated perhaps the greatest danger Trump poses for global stability. Mind you, whether his inability to constrain his rhetoric ends up in nuclear war is quite another question. It's just as possible that his bull-in-the-china-shop (p.i.) approach may resolve some long intractable global conflict or another in a positive way. Who can tell? The problem, from the conservative point of view, is the unpredictability of his interventions, rhetorical or otherwise.

    Personally I rate the chance of a Trump inspired nuclear war fairly low, but the chance of a Trump inspired global economic meltdown fairly high. But we'll all be wiser 4 years from now.

    1. Re:Rhetoric is real by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      The Chinese respond to rhetoric, but I have found that the Oriental are better than the Occidental in distinguishing between rhetoric and reality, so they are nowhere near acting in a cold war behavior.

      While I can have no idea of what your true knowledge of the situation is, your post is the act of one who, whether pretending or for real, has only been paying attention to the rhetoric.

    2. Re:Rhetoric is real by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have found that the Oriental are better than the Occidental in distinguishing between rhetoric and reality

      And have you "found" that they regard rhetoric as the more important of the two? You seem unfamiliar the great importance of face in Oriental culture. It remains possible that Trump will defeat China with nothing but rhetoric.

      If Trump moves beyond mere rhetoric and actually implements his threats of import tariffs it's not going a war of the economic variety we get. Thankfully it's almost as impossible that Trump would engage militarily in regard to Taiwan as his getting elected was ... so no need to worry about that. ;)

      your post is the act of one who ... has only been paying attention to the rhetoric.

      OK great and wise Sage equal to Heaven, what is it that Trump has actually done in regard to China, as opposed to merely said that our collective attention should be fixed upon?

    3. Re:Rhetoric is real by dbIII · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The Chinese are more interested in the personal than the position. They are more likely to take Trump's insults as his word instead of dismissing his bullshit as "locker room banter".
      Imperial Japan was different in a lot of ways, but the lesson of rattling sabres at them too many times resulting in the Pearl Harbor attack still applies. What we see as bluffs and bluster can be seen as serious threats that must be addressed for fear of being seen as being weak domestically and being in danger of being replaced.
      If (ok, being stupid here, it has to be "when") Trump insults Xi personally then Xi has to take some sort of action or he'll soon lose his hold on power as someone else steps up to replace the "weak" leader. I can see it escalating to a cold war and proxy war level very quickly. Sadly that trust fund baby draft dodger just does not have a fucking clue about it.

    4. Re:Rhetoric is real by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      The problem of face is a valid one, but the Chinese control of information within their nation is one reason why they won't have a problem with having to save face to their countrymen. I admit that I could be wrong on that though.

      The situation the Japanese faced was more than a matter of saber rattling, though. https://www.bing.com/search?q=... returns some nifty explanations of all that was going on, including https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    5. Re:Rhetoric is real by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Sadly that trust fund baby draft dodger just does not have a fucking clue about it.

      Did the trust fund baby draft dodger Bill Clinton have a better clue in your mind?

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    6. Re:Rhetoric is real by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better than being a n i g g e r munk in the ghetto like you coren22 http://twicsy.com/u/Coren22/

    7. Re:Rhetoric is real by dbIII · · Score: 1

      No - read stuff by Christopher Hitchens for a bit of a rundown on Bill Clinton's failings. Hitchens liked Democrats but saw that as no reason to go easy on Clinton
      Why the fuck do things degenerate into naive shouting for teams whenever something related to politics is mentioned here?

    8. Re:Rhetoric is real by dbIII · · Score: 1

      one reason why they won't have a problem with having to save face to their countrymen

      It is other people in the top of the Party that he has to worry about and they have the same access to outside information.

      The situation the Japanese faced was more than a matter of saber rattling

      Yes, like all analogies one thing is only similar but not identical to the other thing, and I didn't want to stir up an argument about US foreign policy of the time by going into detail (especially since years ago I talked to an old Korean who grew up during the time of Imperial Japanese occupation). I used it as an analogy because the USA was not prepared for the consequences of what Imperial Japan saw as provocation - hand in an ants nest without wearing gloves territory. I'm not questioning the validity of the actions just referring to the surprise when a response happened.

  19. Re:Bags by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    Trump is most known for being involved in the building of several large buildings

    He's known most for being the host of a reality TV show. Trump voters don't live in a place with a Trump Tower. He only builds those in places where people vote Democrat.

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  20. Re:Towers vs. Reality Show by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    I don't live anywhere near he has built a building. I also don't watch his show. I just happen to recall that he is involved with getting his name put on buildings and either leasing or owning like a condominium parts of them, more clearly and frequently than I remember that he does some show somewhere. I am 40 and have lived mainly in the middle column of the country, except for one year in Virginia Beach in the 12th grade, which was quite an interesting experience. This life may have oriented me towards thinking about his buildings, however, and I don't know how much is replicated in others. I find you have a track record of exceptionally good and exceptionally bad posts, btw.

  21. Relevance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nor is it yours apparently

    Well yes it is. And I'm handsomely remunerated for it, thank you very much.

    Trump is most known for being involved in the building of ...

    You are doing no better than AC, I'm afraid. I did not claim he was a "madman." That he is a "loose canon" is not do be denied.

    ... other than his behavior isn't noted for madness.

    It's noted for NPD, but I didn't even claim he had that.

    I can predict [some off-topic prediction]

    I can predict that night will follow day, but neither of our predictions has the least relevance to the question of who out of Clinton or Trump, would have been or will be more likely to precipitate nuclear conflict. Please try to stay somewhat relevant.

    1. Re:Relevance? by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      Regardless of whether Trump is a "madman" or a "loose cannon" either of the two terms describe too wide a field to be relevant to the issue of war, nuclear or otherwise. So for that matter, is "level-headed" You choose terms that encompass too wide a field to be relevant to anything then claim to have superior reasoning capabilities. You may be able to think logically enough to be useful in whatever field you apply it in with the relevant data, but your ability to figure out what data is relevant outside that field is sorely lacking. Trump's behavior has far less hidden variables than Hillary's. Both have provided plenty of evidence this is true. Therefore people have more options they are aware of when dealing with Trump.

      Does Hillary saying she has a public position and a private position mean nothing to you?

    2. Re:Relevance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Regardless of whether Trump is a "madman" or a "loose cannon" either of the two terms describe too wide a field to be relevant to the issue of war, nuclear or otherwise.

      Nonsense. One can by one's "eccentric" approach to international relations precipitate a war even without directly suffering a psychosis. In the present case, Trump's status as a loose cannon is directly to the point on the question he might pose to global stability.

      You may be able to think logically enough to be useful in whatever field you apply it in with the relevant data, but your ability to figure out what data is relevant outside that field is sorely lacking.

      I agree, hence I refrain from commenting on matters outside my fields of expertise, which given I only have degrees in Science, Humanities and in Law are perhaps less extensive than your own, I do not know. However I find your understanding on this particular topic wanting.

      Does Hillary saying she has a public position and a private position mean nothing to you?

      It suggests that she would be rather more suited to the position of US President than someone who was unable to adjust their position as the situation requires. Yes?

    3. Re:Relevance? by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      Some eccentric approaches can lead to war and some will not. A further refinement is needed before you can logically declare a given eccentric approach will lead to war. Eccentric means uncommon, not unpredictable or even unstable.
      A "Science" degree, is incomplete to describe a degree. You have Associates, Bachelors, Masters and Dotorates of either Science or the Arts in various disciplines. Law and Humanities are both disciplines.
      Having a public and private position in no way is evidence for or against being more capable than someone who is unable to adjust their position, and in fact you can be someone who is unable to adjust your position and have any number of public and private facing positions. They can all be completely wrong. Even if you can adjust, that doesn't even mean the adjustments are right, thus the backlash against supposed flip-flopping, which is generally irrational, but has roots in a rational problem.

      Trump is someone that gets people to make decisions for him then claims them as his own. Like with the Republican Congress' medical insurance implementation, he will have people working on solutions regarding things that have to do with war. Trump has a track record with buildings that he is involved with things that actually get built. Of his other businesses, while some failed, it appears that while all of them were operating, they at least delivered a product. Trump has a track record of delivering things that people want at least a little bit, and are uninterested in usually at worse. Hillary deliveres things that people express strong preferences that they would not have wanted to be delivered.

    4. Re:Relevance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some eccentric approaches can lead to war and some will not.

      Aha, you just took my idea from the conversation above. You're learning something then. ;)

      A further refinement is needed before you can logically declare a given eccentric approach will lead to war.

      As was already put to you: "The problem, from the conservative point of view, is the unpredictability of his interventions, rhetorical or otherwise." The claim is not being made that his "eccentric" approach will, with any certainty, lead to war, nor even relevantly, to nuclear war, but that Clinton's stance, war-like though it was, was both more predictable and less likely to lead to nuclear conflagration.

      Having a public and private position in no way is evidence for or against being more capable than someone who is unable to adjust their position

      Traditionally a position such as President requires to ability to present a pre-calculated policy programme (whatever its rights or wrongs) to the world, which position would rarely be the personal position of the office bearer or even decided upon by them alone. What distinguishes Trump up to this point (most iconically expressed in his twittering) is his inability, or at least unwillingness, to separate his immediate personal reaction from his public persona and an official position to be espoused. To be charitable, he might be described as 'uncompromising.'

      As to how this unconventional approach works out ... we'll need to wait and see.

      Eccentric means uncommon, not unpredictable or even unstable.

      It was also enclosed in quotation marks, meaning I found that to be a rather euphemistic way to write ... umm, how to put this politely ... "volatile."

      A "Science" degree ...

      You rather sadly missed the point there (or chose to ignore it). And in any case I was being disingenuous: My intelligence is such that my understanding of "data is relevant outside" some limited area is at least as good as yours. The difference between your laughable attempts to besmirch my more informed understanding, and my taking AC (or was that you?) to task for their illogical lack of relevance, is that my admonition followed my pointing out their repeated and consistent irrelevancy, whereas you simply began by making an unsubstantiated insult based on nothing more than encountering a different opinion. That's weak.

      That being said, your posts are growing in relevantly addressing what is being put to you and for that I'm grateful. However as I have already been more than generous with the time I've given you, I promise not to read any further response for fear I should be unable to resist the temptation to reply. Farewell.

    5. Re:Relevance? by hackwrench · · Score: 1
      I did not find a sentiment that equatest to "Some eccentric approaches can lead to war and some will not " in your comments above. What you communicated was that all eccentric approaches ale more likely to lead to war than conventional approaches.

      Clinton's stance, war-like though it was, was both more predictable and less likely to lead to nuclear conflagration

      This is where we disagree. Clinton keeps her real positions private. This makes her unpredictable. My whole family are masters at the private-public game and my father is an attorney that for some reason prefers to sell children's clothes at Macy's. He also took off with those of us children that belong to him. My mom had another child after divorcing him. I have a sister that died, a brother who seems rather successful but married a Chinese woman, a half-sister that teaches, but has married and divorced several times, and a mother with a Bachelor's degree in psychology that drives for Uber. That isn't predictable.

      To be charitable, he might be referred to as "hard bargaining".
      Eccentric is hardly a good euphemism for "volatile". You fail at English. And volatile covers a wide range of actions as well. covering saying mean things to people to all-out warfare. And Trump is the saying mean things to people sort of person, not the all-out warfare type. And volatility is a make up of Hillary as well, as evidenced by her actions on going to war as Secretary of State. There are problems with the word, volitile as well. It can mean quick to anger or unpredictable. You are an utter failure at word choices.

      You continue to illustate your lack of understanding of things outside your skill-set by thinking that talking like a person who is uninformed about how degrees work is actually an illustration of how much you know. Utter failure.

      Now as you said, you might not read this, but i find it might be helpful to illustrate to others why your behavior should be a textbook example on how not to communicate well.

  22. Incompetence is Fine by Us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dude. Her own party knows she's incompetent.
    They scheduled her hearing at 5pm it wouldn't be covered by that night's prime-time news, hoping that some other event the next day would eclipse her poor showing. Then they limited questions to a single 3-minutes per senator. These are all signs that they know shes really weak.

    This is a woman who has only ever donated money to education groups. Groups who wanted her money. She's only ever heard from yes men before. No matter how ignorant, no matter how idiotic, they always told her she was very insightful and had good ideas absolutely worthy of serious consideration. She's been in a bubble her whole life, a giant billion dollar safe-space. And now she's out in the real world and learning the hard way that if you cheat through school all you've really done is cheat yourself out of an actual education. Ironic given her appointment, don't you think?

    And you know what? That's just fine as far as the democrats are concerned. Given the choice between incompetent assholes and competent assholes, we will take the incompetent any day of the week. I mean, we would prefer they weren't assholes but with the TEAGOP in charge its assholes all the way down. So thank you Trump for small favors.

  23. Chinese Dragon by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    I think I prefer the Chinese Dragon to Team America. If you play your cards right, the Great Firewall of China is porous. There have been stories where plenty of researchers say they would prefer the Great Firewall be lowered in their case, but they say they do jump through the hoops to get to the information they need, so it is possible. No matter who has been doing what, the conceit of 1984 has never been the case. Plenty of self-help books declare that if you aren't doing something you enjoy it's your own fault.

  24. He's a populist. by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    He will only engage in war if it becomes popular. There's more chance of intervention in the Israel-Palestinian conflict than in Syria. His statements about oil are what's been the popular opinion about the spoils of war since war was a thing. His statements about the spoils of war were provisional about there being war in the first place and was not necessarily an endorsement of committing the wars in the first place. It also was not his biggest complaint.

    His biggest complaint was a lack of jobs followed by statements surrounding immigrants, illegal and H1B's mainly, taking jobs that he thinks should have gone to people already here. Just about anything else was distant.

  25. You're ignoring important distinctions by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    When "rude gestures" are made by military vessels it is a military engagement, and not just "rude gestures".

    When Trump says why can't we use nuclear weapons, it is mainly posturing to figure out why we can't use the threat of nuclear weapons as a bargaining tactic.
    However, any weapon in our arsenal will have a desired effect, and nuclear weapons just seem scary. I am somewhat bothered that the main reason we don't use nuclear weapons is because they have been used on civilian populations when they were used and a use case on using it on military hasn't been made.
    Based on Trump's history, he boast of facts not yet in hand, but gets options based on fact before acting, so when it comes time he will get options from people who do know things that may be better or worse informed than the generals. He does tend to make decisions that at the very least don't have many detractors. People may find his decisions uninteresting, but Trump detractors are upset Trump does not share their philosopy rather than any one decision he made.

  26. You are correct by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    Considering all the bad ideas about Trump floating around and paraded in these comments, yours is refreshingly accurate. You should be modded up 5, insightful, though considering all the above I mentioned, I have doubts it will happen.

  27. Normal vs. corruption by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    I wonder what a world where that is considered normal rather than corruption would be like. My speculations are all over the map from bad to good given the results of capitalism in general.

  28. So... by dargaud · · Score: 1

    So it's artificial intelligence vs natural stupidity...?

    I knew it'd come to that someday.

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    Non-Linux Penguins ?
  29. How far off the handle? by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    So far, Trump tweets mean things or threatens to sue when someone does something he doesn't like, and if you continue doing something Trump doesn't like he will tweet mean things or threaten to sue again. He rarely ever sues as I understand it, and there are plenty of people who just moved on to other things but didn't back down on the original situation. That is a far different tactic than someone who would easily use nukes would take, like for example people who cross you turning up dead. I can't say for certain that Hillary has been involved with people winding up dead, but to put a new spin on an old campaign slogan, in your heart you know she might. Now where is your real evidence for Trump quickly actually using the nuclear option, and even if then where it would be significantly worse than using conventional weapons. Nukes are scary, but a rational examination of the situation can see the use of nukes without significant retaliation. What no one is asking is what if we are better off using nukes against a select group of enemies? Although Trump did field a similar question.

    1. Re:How far off the handle? by zedaroca · · Score: 1

      "we came, we saw, he died". They do come up dead, maybe not the ones the media likes to bring attention to, but thousands of Libyans are dead because she thought that it would be good for her campaign if they were out of the way.

  30. Stupid choices by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    We had stupid choices for president. I didn't vote as none of them shared my values very much. Hillary shares some of the tactics my family is known to employ, but she is a rank amature in comparison. This is my brother: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oc... I am sort of a black sheep in the family as I have little to show for my life. I am a bit like the ruler of the universe in "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"

  31. syntax error. does not compute. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have no idea what the fuck you just said. Was that English? Are you a bot?

  32. Ignorance is definitely not bliss by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    I find that when people don't understand what I say, it usually turns out to be due to ignorance on their part. I also find it is generally the case. So in the future, you should probably lead with it's your own ignorance to blame.

    To put what I said in blander terms. I said that I might like greater Chinese influence in the world as opposed to what America has been doing in the world. China has a system that prevents its citizens from accessing materials the Chinese government doesn't want them to see because it might cause opposition to the government. This system is generally referred to as "The Great Firewall of China". However, it has been communicated, even right here on this very site, that if someone really wants to access said materials, a way can be found. There is a book written by George Orwell called "1984". In it, people are persecuted for doing things that they find enjoyable that the state frowns upon. That is not the rationale for the Chinese system, and people are still free enough to continuously find things they find enjoyable. There are books called self-help books. Among them are books that say they will help you enjoy life more. One of the major elements in such books is that you simply don't know what the book will teach you and in so learning the contents within you will enjoy life better, so the reason you weren't enjoying life so much before is simply your fault.

    If you still have trouble understanding any of this, point out specific details and your best guess as to what it might mean and I may be able to help you understand further. But it is simply your fault you don't understand.

    1. Re:Ignorance is definitely not bliss by Maritz · · Score: 2

      The reason it's "hard" to understand is because it's incoherent babble, not because it's some kind of stunningly profound insight that takes a keen mind to interpret.

      --
      I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
    2. Re:Ignorance is definitely not bliss by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      It is neither incoherent babble nor some kind of stunningly profound insight that takes a keen mind to interpret. People just tend to have a limited vocabulary and tend to get things wrong. My mom has to write "verbally attack" or people come back thinking that she could possibly mean a physical attack, when the meaning should be clear from the context. People really are that dense.

  33. Sore winners by dbIII · · Score: 1

    It's over. No point rabbiting on about warmonger Hillary wanting to kill Ghadaffi (just like Reagan) while peaceful Trump put up a tent for him in his back yard.

    A really bizzare thing is getting pop-up ads (dunno how it made it past the blocker) about "video proof - how Hillary rigged the election". She lost months ago - who are the fucking tools paying money for this shit?

  34. Re:paying attention by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

    So when Trump says in public that the US should seize Iraqi oil fields for itself, it's just "rhetoric", but when Clinton doesn't say that she intends to start WW III, if you're a Trump supporter, that's exactly what she wants to do?

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  35. Today's truth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... generate early warnings on when shares are likely to move ...

    So the stock market is now like real estate: Artificially inflated so the 10-year speculators always sell at at profit. This shows the real purpose of the stock market, buying and selling ownership in a company, has disappeared. Not so long ago, companies would claim it's only "a number on paper", now they're whining they can be bought for 5 billion dollars less today.

    People need to realize that today's stock market has nothing to do with investing in ideas and creating jobs, despite all the claims to the contrary. This is why shows like 'Shark tank' exist: A modern company isn't funded from hundreds of investors with no control, it's funded from a venture capital broker whose third question is always "Does the IP belong to the company?" Little surprise the innovators are putting their patents and trademarks in a shell company they own.

  36. Re:Towers vs. Reality Show by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    I just happen to recall that he is involved with getting his name put on buildings

    So is Ronald McDonald.

    --
    You are welcome on my lawn.
  37. Nothing by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    He has done nothing. Exactly that. and that is the point. The problem of face is a valid one, but the Chinese control of information within their nation is one reason why they won't have a problem with having to save face to their countrymen. I admit that I could be wrong on that though, and the reply by dbIII goes into decent detail about what could go wrong.

  38. STFU hypocrite moron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You tell lies about me galore & here's the proof (where I completely shot your lame ass down loser) https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8348675&cid=50965167/ you fucking crybaby LYING bullshitter!

    * Your post history SHOWS that you CONSTANTLY start trouble w/ me (not I w/ you - you're so far beneath me, you're not worth my time is why)

    APK

    P.S.=> I didn't know you are black - I saw your photo though, so I guess you are... apk

    1. Re:STFU hypocrite moron by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Funny, last I checked, it was not starting trouble with you to point out your errors, and to tell you to back off of people that you are stalking. If you would like, I could have the police come by and show you how stalking is not something that is appropriate online or off.

      I find it funny that you think you shot down anything when you seem to have missed the side of the barn with your shots. I replied, I provided the references to other conversations we have had previously, you are the one who is scared to admit when you have been wrong in the past, not I. But go ahead and keep stalking me, and spouting racist nonsense against some third party from Twitter who isn't me.

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  39. Too bad I shot you down easily... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

    62 reputable sources + /. users say different:

    Safe by 57 antivirus programs in 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    APK

    P.S.=> Want more? I've got TONS of examples like it... apk

    1. Re:Too bad I shot you down easily... apk by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      As in science, all it takes is one example to disprove a theory, and I posted a link to it.

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  40. Glen Burnie Maryland threats? LOL! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See Coren22? You'd have to drop YOUR name to do it & then I'd just turn around & do it to YOU (easily as I have dozens of times you've done it to me first).

    * Go for it bigshot...

    APK

    P.S.=> Then, I'll definitely have your name... go for it... apk

    1. Re:Glen Burnie Maryland threats? LOL! by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Um, WTF are you spouting off about? You seem to think I am the one harassing you as you are posting calling me the n word (which is blocked by /.) around 10 times? When have I harassed or stalked you? I pass up numerous opportunities to reply to you every day. You seem to confuse me getting tired of your stalking other people as being the same as stalking you.

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  41. More lies about me too Coren22? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

    Where'd I say it? Show us. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007 http://forums.tweaktown.com/windows/25596-how-secure-windows-2000-xp-server-2003-vista-fully-per-cis-tool-scoring-3.html?s=0ae07d5b5389e06fd6bcfd05bc2d2cc0/

    See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there on OpenDNS free (I use it) + AD in my security guide.

    APK

    P.S.=> Whose mistake is that Coren22? YOURS, lol (again) w/ https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10141067&cid=53725817/ idiot (I've got TONS more too)... apk

    1. Re:More lies about me too Coren22? by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Already repeatedly pointed you to that, why do it yet again?

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  42. Back up your lies here too retarded blowhard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "APK, I have done so much more than you" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Thursday August 11, 2016 @12:19PM (#52684621)

    Coren22 what commercialware's your code as mine's is? Does malwarebytes host + recommend your work as mine currently is? What trade show did your work do well in like mine? What books, magazines, newspapers articles in computer science feature your work like I've done?

    PROVE IT!

    (You should just admit you're a lying "ne'er-do-well" bigmouth (it's quite clear you haven't done shit))

    APK

    P.S.=> You know DAMN WELL you can't backup your BIG blowhard mouth fool... apk

    1. Re:Back up your lies here too retarded blowhard by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      As I have repeatedly explained to you, I AM NOT A PROGRAMMER. No matter how often you ask for my programs, it just makes me laugh, as you seem to think only programmers contribute to technology. I have also explained that I like not being in jail, so I won't and can't show you what I have done. As all you do is sit around your house, I understand the lack of understanding in that some people are bound by contracts not to talk about what they do for a living.

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  43. Can't keep your word Coren22 retard? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I don't have time for the Troll APK, and refuse to respond anymore to a post signed APK" - by Coren22 ( 1625475 ) on Tuesday November 03, 2015 @04:27PM (#50858983)

    See subject you pitiful blowhard lying little nobody dweeb... lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> I asked you nicely once to just stop bugging me here https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9636049&cid=52886229/ but your post history last week (and before it too) shows YOU start with me as I said - you go for your 'threat' weasel - we'll SEE what happens (in any event, I'll KNOW who you are then for sure, you disgusting little FAKE NAME bullshit artist liar)... apk

    1. Re:Can't keep your word Coren22 retard? by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      That is nice, at the time I was in a different job. Should I point out that you said you would stop trolling me as well?

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  44. But you've done "so much more" (bs) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See my subject: You're a hotair blowhard windbag bullshit artist & you have to hide behind a fake name online...

    APK

    P.S.=> Fuck off & leave me alone you fucking FREAK weirdo mentalcase retard assburger nutjob (or, I swear to Christ, I'll find you down there in Glen Burnie Maryland and FIX YOUR ASS fucking GOOD motherfucker)... apk

    1. Re:But you've done "so much more" (bs) by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Sticks and stones little one.

      HAHAHAHA, I need to leave you, the biggest harasser on Slashdot, alone? What drugs are you on, and where does one obtain them?

      Do you really think I care if you know my home city? After all, you publish your address in your software begging for handouts from people who use it.

      So, please, come and see me, then it will be Assault (above), and Battery. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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  45. You're full of it w/ proof (eat your words) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I don't trust any single security researcher" - by Coren22 ( 1625475 ) on Friday April 22, 2016 @09:46AM (#51963859)

    HOW MANY 'sources' DID YOU HAVE? 1 - a NOBODY of 1 & only 1 (& you trusted that? EAT YOUR WORDS you RETARDED dimwitted imbecile)

    * Unlike 9 other 'expert' companies I got the better of on false positives I overturned? They won't even ANSWER my emails to them (they're shitbags).

    APK

    P.S.=> EAT YOUR WORDS, you pitiful little do nothing hide behind a FAKE NAME online for your FAKE LIFE retarded loser that you KNOW that you are... you lose, again, idiot... apk

    1. Re:You're full of it w/ proof (eat your words) by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      LOL, keep grabbing those straws. Your software was marked malware, you act like the typical malware author, you refuse to release source code, like a malware author. If it quacks like a duck...

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  46. I didn't do it moron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See my subject: Bet others did though. I see how much shit you give others here (I have dozens of links of others telling you fuck off) so don't put it on me RETARD https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10141067&cid=53729029/ enjoy EATING YOUR WORDS in that link too, moron.

    Besides, even IF you were black? Why would it BOTHER you anyhow?? It's only words. Deeds count... but then, you don't HAVE any worthy deeds, now do you https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10141067&cid=53726013/

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "As far as IQ, there are people smarter then I, but not many" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Thursday December 16, 2010 @11:44AM

    Little retarded mentally deficient MORON do nothing "ne'er-do-well" which the link above proves, that thinks he's 'smart' - it is SO easy tearing you apart with YOUR OWN WORDS shithead (guard your grill & watch what comes out of it OR I'll keep tearing you apart with it easily, stupid)... apk

    1. Re:I didn't do it moron by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, so you weren't harassing raymorris? Do you often have problems with the truth? That can be diagnosed.

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  47. Show us where I said it Coren22! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Show us where I said what you say I did quoted. Do it. You can't. I show the opposite & you EAT YOUR WORDS for it!

    You're a BLOWHARD hot air windbag do-nothing unskilled "ne'er-do-well" with mental issues (assburgers) who IMAGINES things (prove otherwise above - you can't & you KNOW it liar)

    APK

    P.S.=> I see you also can't back this blowhard 'braggadocio' of yours up either https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10141067&cid=53726013/ can you? Nope...

    Go away, weirdo, & leave me alone + quit telling lies you can't backup scumbag OR I'll tear you up PUBLICLY again with all of this so everyone sees what a pig you are https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10141067&cid=53729029/ or I'll do worse (& you will NOT like it)... apk

    1. Re:Show us where I said it Coren22! by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      It seems you might have a reading comprehension issue, have you ever been diagnosed?

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  48. Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!" liar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See my subject: Backup your bs quoted here Coren22 https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10141067&cid=53725923/ cat got your tongue, you lying little motherfucker?

    Diagnosed? I don't have mental issues - you do though, ASSBURGER defective brain, lol!

    FACT: You can't + have repeatedly proven yourself a BLOWHARD BIGMOUTH LYING fuck, nothing more!

    "As far as IQ, there are people smarter then I, but not many" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Thursday December 16, 2010 @11:44AM

    LMAO - bullshit - all the links I posted here SHOW I BUSTED YOU FLAT DOWN easily (w/ your own words stupid & mistakes galore)!

    MAKING YOU EAT YOUR WORDS was too, Too, TOO EASY on my ware being malware as YOU SAID fuckhead despite 58++ antivirus' saying otherwise (many who I proved WRONG too you limited loser - a something LIMITED retards like you can NEVER do fucker) as well https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10141067&cid=53729029/

    Chump menial stupid "ne'er-do-well" do nothing SHIT that you are with a BIG mouth that writes checks your dumb ass can't ca$h (or bounce as I bounce you off the pavement here easily).

    * Nicest part is, Google's starting to SHOW all the times I have utterly destroyed you, lol! You did this to yourself repeatedly attacking me & failing...

    APK

    P.S.=> LOL - You also can't backup your bs you've done more than me either despite you quoted on it too https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10141067&cid=53726013/ you fucking bullshit artist "ne'er-do-well" MENTALLY limited assburger RETARD despite your DELUDING YOURSELF you are 'smart' (coding,noquestionsasked,youcan't-so how about security? CIS Tool, highly esteemed, took fixes from me (which I can prove easily too - I don't say things I can't backup UNLIKE YOU) & security guides I wrote I was PAID FOR did well too - how about YOU?? Zero...) apk

    1. Re:Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!" liar by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Yes, diagnosed. You have shown over and over that there is something wrong there. Others have suggested possible diagnosis, and you always try to claim that they aren't your psychiatrist. Perhaps you should revisit that clean bill of health, as it is obvious that you have huge glaring mental issues.

      To start, I expect you cannot in any way resist replying to every one of my replies with more of your claiming of have won the argument without making any points at all.

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  49. Nope! Only truth about raymorris to diagnose by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's a liar like you that talks behind my back (proof's all here) & lies like hell too (so much for truth) quoted:

    "I don't shoot my mouth off without knowing what I'm talking about" - by raymorris (2726007) on Thursday December 31, 2015 @09:29AM (#51215379)

    Raymorris shot his mouth off f'ing up in 2 security fuckups https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5351503&cid=47379233/ & https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5351503&cid=47374033/ + raymorris = scriptkiddie https://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8895203&cid=51726265/

    &

    Raymorris ERRONEOUSLY says ONLY 'newer script kiddie tools' have stringlength built in (when PASCAL had it for ages - my fav tool) https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8472509&cid=51114383/

    He always starts up with me (proof's below behind my back OR to me & I keep proofs of it all as I do with you too scumbag Coren22)

    YOU'RE BOTH BLUNDERING LYING WANNABES!

    APK

    P.S.=> Raymorris likes to talk behind my back like the gossiping bitch TROLL he is https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9880997&cid=53312265/ well, here I am letting HIM TALK in those links, showing his lies & wannabe FAILS ... apk

    1. Re:Nope! Only truth about raymorris to diagnose by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      That right there proves me right. Thank you.

      https://slashdot.org/comments....

      Now, as to your drivel; no one who posts on the internet is talking behind your back unless they are posting to a board you have no access to. This is just more of your disorders coming out. As for lying, you are the kind of it, so I guess you would spot it, but what does that have to do with harassing and stalking him to try and point out his perceived lies?

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  50. Give me your name & address then pussy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See my subject: Give me your name, I'll verify it against rehold & other realestate + tax databases to verify it against the address you give me & then?

    * THEN, we can settle this FACE TO FACE (I'd say man to man, but you're NO MAN) instead of you trolling me HIDING behind your FAKE NAME online pussy.

    APK

    P.S.=> You're DISGUSTING damaged goods "beta" male material (not even that). It's why your old lady dumped your sorry ass - she doesn't want to contribute to making MORE of YOUR "damaged" kind, lol... apk

    1. Re:Give me your name & address then pussy by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Donald J. Trump
      1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW
      Washington, DC 20500

      LOL...as if. I just have to say, the tears are delicious though. You can't stand to not know who I am since I have so thoroughly thrashed you intellectually.

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  51. Coren22 you're the one w/ assburger brain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You've admitted 'assburger' issues & tell lies I bust you in you can't backup Coren22 https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10141067&cid=53725923/

    * Keep shitting on yourself, fine by me...

    APK

    P.S.=> See - I know you know you're damaged goods - it's why your old lady ditched your sorry ass - she didn't want to produce MORE of "your kind" (retarded defective motherfuckers like YOU, bitch, lol)... apk

    1. Re:Coren22 you're the one w/ assburger brain by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Did you ever actually learn grammar when you were in school? I can already see you never learned logic, as declaring your win, and other's liars kind of requires some kind of evidence, which you never provide...interestingly enough.

      Keep shouting to the rafters about my "assburgers" as it just makes you look ignorant. You don't seem to understand what Asperger's syndrome was, and that you are making fun of an autistic person who was made fun of their whole life for being different. You can't make a dent in my confidence, nor make my day bad, so just give it up. You sound worse than the jocks making fun of us nerds because they don't get us.

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  52. 1 disreputable 'source' Coren22? Quoting you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I don't trust any single security researcher" - by Coren22 ( 1625475 ) on Friday April 22, 2016 @09:46AM (#51963859)

    57 antiviruses show my work's clean https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/e01211ca36aa02e923f20adee0a3c4f5d5187dc65bdf1c997b3da3c2b0745425/analysis/1433430542/

    MalwareBytes' employee hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & VERIFIED the CODE

    OpenSORES gets abused like Google's EFast!

    APK

    P.S.=> YOU SAY YOU DON'T TRUST 1 SECURITY SOURCE QUOTED ABOVE? You have only 1 & a truly disreputable one... apk

    1. Re:1 disreputable 'source' Coren22? Quoting you by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      What was that? All I could hear was more quacking.

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  53. Confidence being a lying retard? LOL! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I believe you got made fun of liar. If you're so confident tell me where live pussy: Name & address - let's settle this in person.

    * I've been both a jock (NCAA lettering one for a national power) & nerd @ the SAME TIME (not 1 dimensional LIMITED like you are, especially mentally), but I never ONCE acted like you - I saw a lot of "your kind" get BEATEN DOWN though for it, acting like you are now, punk liar. I never felt sorry for them. They bring it on themselves, just like you.

    By the way - I took logic during my CS degreework & did well @ it - have you?

    APK

    P.S.=> Don't impersonate our President motherfucker as you did - where do you live & what's your name? Yes - Keep showing everyone you really ARE a fucking punk weasel some more avoiding it! You will, you're human shit pussy (I bet if I asked your former old lady she'd tell me the same - what's HER name whimp?)... apk

    1. Re:Confidence being a lying retard? LOL! by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      I am sure you can find live pussy in your local strip joint, or on the nearest red light district street corner. Good luck nailing any of that pussy though.

      As far as where I live, why should I let someone know who is commiting assault right at this moment by threatening to "settle this in person" as if he is some kind of tough guy.

      As far as one dimensional, are you projecting? I did many things, not just tech related. I am a second degree brown belt in Tae Kwon Do, I worked in the drama program at school, I even played sports! But I guess you are so good at projecting, I must be the one who didn't do anything in high school. Also, I never got in a fight, because I know better than to pick stupid fights with stupid people who are in hitting range.

      If you took logic in school, they should have flunked you, because you're "winning" attitude is pathetic, you don't even make an argument, just declare victory and act like the other person "ran" away from your terrible points.

      As for impersonating the president, it is my prerogative.

      Here's my address, come see me big tough guy:

      935 Pennsylvania Ave NW
      Washington, DC 20535

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  54. You want to talk that way to me?... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    TELL ME YOUR REAL NAME, & WHERE YOU LIVE (I'll verify it against realestate & tax data) - then we can settle it face to face (I'd say MAN TO MAN, but you're no man, weasel).

    * Like I said - No small wonder your ex left you you "not man" whimp.

    APK

    P.S.=> You know you're a miserable brain-damaged piece of INFERIOR male material & you show it, you lying "ne'er-do-well" piece of shit pussy... apk

    1. Re: You want to talk that way to me?... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is hilarious. Im about ready to get the popcorn. If only the rest of slashdot... i mean advertisingdot.. was as entertaining.

    2. Re: You want to talk that way to me?... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is hilarious how Coren22 runs away from answering a simple question to prove what he said about apk https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10141067&cid=53737999/ and it looks like he can't do it telling lies again.

  55. Hahahaha Coren22 the chicken dick... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See my subject: Explains it all - you are truly a pussy ass lying punk bitch, no questions asked (how do you live w/ yourself I wonder? How does ANY of "your kind"??)

    Tell me where you live & your name, I'll check it out & we can settle it face to face - that's not assault, it's proving you're a chicken dick trolling little PUNK who hides behind a FAKE NAME online... I'll give raymorris that much (he isn't - he may fuckup like crazy & lie, but @ least he believes in himself, though he gossips + schemes behind my back thinking I wouldn't see it - not much better than YOU, but better than the "likes of you", punk...)

    Think it's 'assault' bitch? Call the cops, drop your REAL name (you'd have to, but then I am only "assaulting" a FAKE NAME ONLINE weasel, lol - you have ZERO) - go on, do it!

    I'll have you then for damn sure you pussy ass weasel PROVEN fucking liar trying to ruin MY reputation professionally & otherwise https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10141067&cid=53729901/ & then I can have REAL FUN w/ you (bank on it).

    APK

    P.S.=> See, it doesn't matter WHAT you say, as you're a KNOWN fucking liar https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10141067&cid=53729901/ & dumber than a box of rocks - you've programmed a commodore since you were 5, eh? Why can't you show anything decent then?? I can by truckloads - you're INFERIOR brain-damaged goods whimp... & you KNOW it (everyone here does) lol... apk

    1. Re:Hahahaha Coren22 the chicken dick... apk by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Wow, you have hurt my feelings by calling me all those terrible names. I wonder myself how a sociopath like you lives with yourself every day as well, but I get along just fine thank you.

      Why would I tell someone who is committing assault against me where I live? Do you advertise your address to people you know have threatened to bodily harm you? Assault is when you threaten to harm someone, as you have now repeatedly done. You can try and claim that you haven't, but it doesn't change the legal implications of the threats you are throwing about. NO ONE on a public board is posting behind your back, that sounds like paranoid schizophrenia, you should have that looked at. If we are posting on a public board, it is right in front of your freaking face, not behind your back. Behind your back would be us emailing back and forth about how much you screw up all the time.

      Why would I call the cops? I am letting you hang yourself with all the rope you need. When you do significant crimes, I will be sure to drop some anonymous tips, which is all that is needed to have you committed for observation.

      Ruin your reputation? As if you didn't do that to yourself by making significant technical blunders.

      PS, keep projecting there, I am not the one who made a career out of lying. You act like you are the peak of technical knowledge when you make basic errors in networking and security. You just don't like when people point out your lies, and instead try to shout them down because you think it makes you look professional and knowledgable to act like an asshole online.

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  56. Coren22 prove your words quoted here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

    Prove your quoted words above Coren22: Where'd I say it? Show us. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007 http://forums.tweaktown.com/windows/25596-how-secure-windows-2000-xp-server-2003-vista-fully-per-cis-tool-scoring-3.html?s=0ae07d5b5389e06fd6bcfd05bc2d2cc0/

    See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there on OpenDNS free (I use it) + AD in my security guide.

    APK

    P.S.=> Whose mistake is that Coren22? YOURS, lol (again) w/ https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10141067&cid=53725817/ idiot (I've got TONS more too)... apk

    1. Re:Coren22 prove your words quoted here by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      I feel bad for you. You are so delusional you can't even see your bullshit anymore. I have answered this on numerous occasions, yet you keep repeating it like somehow the facts will change. I won't back down, your dodging of facts will not become the new facts.

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  57. Coren22, evasions? Prove your words quoted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

    Prove your quoted words above Coren22: Where'd I say it? Show us. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007 http://forums.tweaktown.com/windows/25596-how-secure-windows-2000-xp-server-2003-vista-fully-per-cis-tool-scoring-3.html?s=0ae07d5b5389e06fd6bcfd05bc2d2cc0/

    See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there on OpenDNS free (I use it) + AD in my security guide.

    APK

    P.S.=> Whose mistake is that Coren22? YOURS, lol (again) w/ https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10141067&cid=53725817/ idiot (I've got TONS more too)... apk

    1. Re:Coren22, evasions? Prove your words quoted by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      I made no mistake. Just because you conveniently forgot the conversation does not mean it didn't happen. I have already pointed you to it previously, and continuously asking for it again just makes you look like a deaf person. You are just making a fool of yourself yet again, so please, keep it up.

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  58. Bullshit Coren22 (you liar) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See my subject + "rinse, lather & repeat":

    "Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

    Prove your quoted words above Coren22 - Where'd I say it? Show us. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007 http://forums.tweaktown.com/windows/25596-how-secure-windows-2000-xp-server-2003-vista-fully-per-cis-tool-scoring-3.html?s=0ae07d5b5389e06fd6bcfd05bc2d2cc0/

    See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there on OpenDNS free (I use it) + AD in my security guide.

    * Your "assburgers" mentally damaged brain is IMAGINING things (you can't get over it you lied & fucked up) - thanks for proving it by evasion, lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> Whose mistake is that Coren22? YOURS, lol (again) w/ https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10141067&cid=53725817/ idiot (I've got TONS more too)... apk