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Tech Firm Creates Trump Monitor For Stock Markets (reuters.com)

randomErr quotes a report from Reuters: London-based fintech firm Trading.co.uk is launching an app that will generate trading alerts for shares based on Donald Trump social media comments. Keeping one eye on the U.S. President-elect's personal Twitter feed has become a regular pastime for the fund managers and traders. Trump knocked several billion off the value of pharmaceutical stocks a week ago by saying they were "getting away with murder" with their prices. Comments earlier this week on China moved the dollar and a pair of December tweets sent the share prices of Lockheed Martin and Boeing spiraling lower. That plays to the growing group of technology startups that use computing power to process millions of messages posted online every day and generate early warnings on when shares are likely to move. Trading.co.uk chief Gareth Mann said the Trump signal generator used artificial intelligence technology to differentiate between tweets or other messages that, for example, just mention Boeing and those liable to move markets.

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  1. Worrying by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The really worrying thing is that he is so easy to trigger. His favourite news site is breitbart, and Twitter is largely unfiltered. How long until someone engineers a stock crash for their own monetary benefit?

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    1. Re:Worrying by Zaelath · · Score: 1

      "Trash Flash Crash" will be the phrase of 2017, because Trump doesn't rhyme.

    2. Re:Worrying by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      Trump Bump
      Trump Dump

      There, it rhymes.

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    3. Re:Worrying by Zaelath · · Score: 1

      Makes for some scary headlines though: Trump Dump wipes 15%

    4. Re:Worrying by rmdingler · · Score: 1

      The really worrying thing is that he is so easy to trigger. His favourite news site is breitbart, and Twitter is largely unfiltered. How long until someone engineers a stock crash for their own monetary benefit?

      Well, you've thought of it... so in all likelihood, has someone with something to gain. It has been done already.

      Trading.co.uk chief Gareth Mann said the Trump signal generator used artificial intelligence technology to differentiate between tweets or other messages

      Artificial or no, this represents a rare occasion to use the two words in the same sentence, doesn't it?

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    5. Re:Worrying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What do you mean, "until"? This already happens all the time, and Trump personally has probably been doing it for years.

      I'd be willing to bet that at least one person associated with the Trump crime family was buying shares in Lockheed and/or Boeing last month. Very possibly Trump himself.

      This is why the president is expected to remove his business-related conflicts of interest. Trump has made no pretense at doing that, he's just there to milk the country for all it's worth. Welcome to kleptocracy.

    6. Re:Worrying by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Trump Bump
      Trump Dump

      There, it rhymes.

      Trump Slump.

      Was that so hard?

    7. Re:Worrying by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 1

      The really worrying thing is that he is so easy to trigger.

      "Trump took the jab personally. He filed a $5 million lawsuit against Maher for breach of contract, alleging that when he provided his birth certificate to Maher proving he is not, in fact, the son of an orangutan, Maher never came up with the $5 million" http://www.motherjones.com/pol...

    8. Re:Worrying by greengene · · Score: 2

      "Trumped-Up Pump-and-Dump"?

    9. Re:Worrying by ClickOnThis · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The really worrying thing is that he is so easy to trigger.

      No, the really worrying part is that the stock market is so fucking fragile that such a stupid comment can bring prices down. I mean, it can't be because millions of shareholders suddenly grew a conscious and realized "y'know, he's right, they are charging too much. I'm gonna sell my stock to show that I don't support such high drug prices">

      I don't know about you, but when it comes to fragility, I'm a whole lot more concerned about Trump than the stock market.

      The stock market has a multitude of agents across the world, pushing in different directions. Trump is one single person who has control of the most powerful bully pulpit on Earth. You tell me what/who is more likely to fly off the handle.

      And to put a finer point on it: the stock market doesn't have nukes.

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    10. Re:Worrying by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Even by Trump's standards that's batshit insane.

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    11. Re:Worrying by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      It uses AI to differentiate tweets from messages? By what, going to twitter.com instead of sms?

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    12. Re:Worrying by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Interesting APK, so you create an account somewhere and try and act like you are me? How original, you yet again act like you are someone else.

      Either that, or you don't realize I don't have a Twitter account. Hint, I am a white guy.

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    13. Re:Worrying by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Just because someone uses the same handle as me does not mean it is me. I don't use Twitter. I am not you APK, so stop acting like you can pull me down to your level you racist degenerate.

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  2. Speculative Trading by Notabadguy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Stock value these days is speculative, and has virtually nothing to do with tangible value.

    When pointing out common sense things (Lockheed asking $800,000 per round for a gun is too much) or (Pharmaceutical companies are charging more than the average american can afford) causes stock prices to plummet - they were overvalued.

    Then again, statistically rounded - 100% of trading is HFT and is a scam anyway, so....it doesn't matter. Again.

    1. Re:Speculative Trading by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If the soon-to-be head of the Executive makes statements that look like they're going to lead to interference in a business's activities, you're saying there ought not be some sort of inevitable alteration in that company's overall trading performance? I'm not really sure you understand what stocks are, or what a stockmarket is.

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    2. Re:Speculative Trading by amiga3D · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Stocks were intended to be shares in a company that provided dividends in return for investment. What they actually are is gambling. People trade based on what they think a share will do and not really whether the company will actually make money. Thus when he said they were overvalued anyway he is stating the truth based on what stocks were intended to be. I remember when I thought about investing 10 grand in Amazon back in the early days. I teetered on the edge for days but finally resisted. I just couldn't bring myself to buy into something that was little more than a script running on a server. At the time they had no warehouses and distribution centers. I'm still kicking myself.

    3. Re:Speculative Trading by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Informative

      Investing is always a gamble. You're giving a company capital and hoping that that company makes sufficient money that they can either pay you dividends, or that the value of your shares go up enough that you can sell them to make a profit. A share is a piece of property, to be used either as a means of collecting dividends, or to be sold.

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    4. Re:Speculative Trading by Xenographic · · Score: 1

      Lots of government announcements impact the share price of companies. If this leads companies to do things like bilk the citizens of the US out of less money to avoid getting called out, I don't think many people are going to have a problem with it, aside from those who are looking for problems to have.

      Inasmuch as this is a problem, it's because the value of companies is so speculative, i.e. what can I get another sucker to pay for this thing, rather than objective, e.g. what dividends does this pay?

    5. Re:Speculative Trading by Bite+The+Pillow · · Score: 2

      Notabadguy is 80% wrong, and Amiga3D has some good points. But no, Trumpenfuhrer making statements should not affect stocks because EVERYONE SHOULD ALREADY KNOW. We know about the fed raising rates, we know about upcoming regulation. There are no overnight surprises from the government, statistically speaking.

      Until now, the tiny fingered, cheeto colored shitgibbon just says what's on his tiny little mind and individual 401(k) plans eat dick for a week. And the people who don't have all day to day trade just watch, while the 20% of HFT make billions on penny increases and front running.

      Overall, stock price is a reflection of market value. But when Trumpster Fire says junk that won't happen, because the Republicans who pass the laws don't like him, that's moving prices on horseshit.

    6. Re: Speculative Trading by Feature+Film · · Score: 2

      Are you implying that Amazon hasn't made money in that time?

    7. Re:Speculative Trading by Notabadguy · · Score: 1

      Day Trading has been dead for a long time.

      http://www.businessinsider.com...

      That's the first google link, but there's many more.

    8. Re:Speculative Trading by Notabadguy · · Score: 1

      Stupidity masquerading as sensible is the idea of procuring a naval artillery shell to the specs proposed in the first place. There are ample means of creating precision destruction - from cruise missiles to smart missiles to laser-guided missiles to boots on the ground.

  3. That's what we call a buying opportunity. by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wait for Trump to say something stupid that knocks a chunk of money off of a stock, wait a few hours for it to crash, buy low, and sell it after a week when the price rebounds. Once again, the ultra-wealthy with their high-frequency traders get richer, and normal people's retirement funds get poorer....

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    1. Re:That's what we call a buying opportunity. by chispito · · Score: 2

      wait a few hours for it to crash, buy low, and sell it after a week when the price rebounds. Once again, the ultra-wealthy with their high-frequency traders get richer, and normal people's retirement funds get poorer....

      Does that require high frequency trading?

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    2. Re:That's what we call a buying opportunity. by quonset · · Score: 2

      the ultra-wealthy with their high-frequency traders get richer, and normal people's retirement funds get poorer....

      How is a person's retirement fund getting poorer if the price of a stock rebounds in a week? Unless the person sells that stock in that short time period nothing has changed. The value of their retirement fund is the same as it was the week before.

      You could argue, unsuccessfully, that the week downturn "cost" that person's retirement account because had Trump not said anything the downturn wouldn't have happened, but there is no way to know if something else would have affected that stock in the same time.

      Holding on to good quality stocks and/or mutual funds will, in the end, make you more wealthy than buying and selling at the drop of a hat.

    3. Re:That's what we call a buying opportunity. by dgatwood · · Score: 2

      How is a person's retirement fund getting poorer if the price of a stock rebounds in a week?

      Because the stock price dropping by more than a small amount indicates a significant amount of selling, and there's a decent chance that a chunk of that selling came from big funds.

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    4. Re:That's what we call a buying opportunity. by quantaman · · Score: 1

      Wait for Trump to say something stupid that knocks a chunk of money off of a stock, wait a few hours for it to crash, buy low, and sell it after a week when the price rebounds. Once again, the ultra-wealthy with their high-frequency traders get richer, and normal people's retirement funds get poorer....

      Unless that tweet turns into a punitive regulatory action, then you've just lost a chunk of your savings.

      Assuming dumb mistakes on the part of professional investors is a very good way to lose money.

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    5. Re:That's what we call a buying opportunity. by Pfhorrest · · Score: 2

      If you're invested in index funds, as you should be, the performance of your investment tracks the performance of the overall market, so if things bounce back in a week, it doesn't matter to you if a bunch of inefficiently human-managed mutual funds lost a bunch of money in that dip, the market is back up so so are your indexed investments and you're still doing just fine.

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    6. Re:That's what we call a buying opportunity. by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      He's still using a broker that submits orders via teletype...

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    7. Re:That's what we call a buying opportunity. by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      If you're invested in index funds, as you should be

      Since I'm pretty young (only 30) so I have plenty of time, my plan is to wait until we have the next tech bubble crash which will likely damage the value of index funds. That way I can shift part of my 401k and personal savings into the index funds when they are low and ride the recovery wave. I'll just have to talk the wife into letting me do so.

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  4. Buddies by itamblyn · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I just assumed he was doing this so his buddies can short the stocks

    1. Re:Buddies by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That may be giving him a lot more credit than he's due. I've honestly seen little indication that he's sufficiently coherent or possesses a long enough attention span to actually create such a strategy.

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    2. Re:Buddies by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

      He managed to become president.
      You can't do that by being a complete retard. You can however look like a retard if it gets you votes from an important part of the population.

  5. Re:He's off his rocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Hillary's practically a saint compared to this fucking Cheeto.

  6. Re:Just amazing by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

    I doubt it's luck. I'm sure he has some very skillful lawyers and accountants working for him, and they make all the deals. He's just the brand name.

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  7. like a Baby Monitor by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    cry = buy......shit = sell.

  8. Not luck at all by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you followed Trump at all before the election, you'd realize that Trump is actually quite smart, and really does understand not only how the world works but is especially excellent at negotiation and hiring good talent.

    Some of the things he's saying over Twitter are calibrated to make him look dumb, so that people underestimate him. It's funny to me that people say Trump has a huge ego, therefore he needs attention from press and media... it's because Trump has a huge ego that none of that matters to him. He is ecstatic that people continue to fall for the lie Trump is dumb, because it makes it so easy for him to move forward with whatever he wants to do and surprise everyone.

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    1. Re:Not luck at all by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2

      If you followed Trump at all before the election, you'd realize that Trump is actually quite smart

      I did follow him before the election, and came to the conclusion that he's as dumb as he is ignorant, and as ignorant as he is assholy.

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    2. Re:Not luck at all by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      I've seen who he's appointing to different positions. No he has no skill for hiring good talent. Not a single person he's bringing on board is remotely qualified for that position.

      That's because you don't understand what people in leadership positions do...

      Sorry about that, but it's on you - not Trump.

      DeVos alone as education secretary is enough to make up for any slack in other picks. She may actually be able to help fix the dire state of public education.

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    3. Re:Not luck at all by unixisc · · Score: 1

      This is what struck me, and one thing I love about him. In 2008, even though I disagreed strongly w/ Obama, I supported him b'cos I wanted both Hilary and McCain to be downed, and he did it. This election cycle, he ended first the Bush, and then the Clinton dynasty. Although to be fair, even had Trump not been in the race, Rubio or Cruz may have toppled Bush at least, if not Clinton

    4. Re:Not luck at all by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      DeVos alone as education secretary is enough to make up for any slack in other picks. She may actually be able to help fix the dire state of public education.

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    5. Re:Not luck at all by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      Yes, left-leaning media and supporters of the teacher's unions don't like DeVos. Of course, the current state of public education makes their position untenable... Unless you simply want to push a political agenda, that is.

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    6. Re:Not luck at all by dbIII · · Score: 1

      really does understand not only how the world works but is especially excellent at negotiation and hiring good talent.

      If you actually think that instead of singing the praises of The Party Leader like a good Komrade then you are definitely not getting out much.
      Turns out his treasury "talent" forgot about more than 100 million the other day.

    7. Re:Not luck at all by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      is especially excellent at negotiation and hiring good talent.

      Indeed, he claims to have personally vetted every hire at his Trump University scam. To be fair to him they performed well, using high pressure sales tactics to rip off their victims in a most efficient manner. It only really failed because of his own incompetence at making it look legit and fighting the victim's lawsuit.

      I guess he probably has some negotiation skills too, since you would hope he at least read that book he put his name on. I mean, it was written by someone else, but you would think he had read it afterwards.

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    8. Re:Not luck at all by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      you'd realize that Trump is actually quite smart,

      He doesn't come across as smart.

      and really does understand not only how the world works

      His views on Putin indicate strongly otherwise.

      the world works but is especially excellent at negotiation

      No, not really. He has a habit of not paying people and then using the weight of the legal system to make it hard for them to get paid. That's not good negotiation, that's being scum.

      Some of the things he's saying over Twitter are calibrated to make him look dumb,

      Yes indeed!

      so that people underestimate him

      Oh, so he does know cyber then?

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  9. It won't work for long by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

    Traders will soon learn that he fires his mouth off about everything but rarely backs it up, and changes his mind about 20 times a week. They'll stop reacting to what he says because it is just noise.

    1. Re:It won't work for long by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They'll stop reacting to what he says because it is just noise.

      That is not how the stock market works. Traders will react because they think other traders will react, and they want a first-mover advantage. Other than tweeting, it doesn't matter what Trump does or doesn't do. He just needs to trigger the feedback loop.

  10. Re:Just amazing by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2

    No, it's what the gp said: "born rich" was his preparation, and "born rich" was his opportunity. You and me should have been smart enough to plan ahead like that.

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  11. Re:He's off his rocker by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2, Interesting

    1. As a senator, Hillary voted for the Iraq war.
    2. As secretary of state, she supported the intervention in Libya.
    3. She advocated for deeper American involvement in Syria.
    All of these have been unmitigated disasters for America, so her judgement doesn't appear to be so good.

    I expect Trump to be a terrible president, but his preference for non-interventionism in foreign affairs is one of his few good points. Another good point about his presidency is the entertainment value. Popcorn sales should go way up. Hillary would have been dull.

  12. Re:He's off his rocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    just take two golden showers and call me in the morning.

  13. his kids will do it however by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Son in law at least is already preparing to cover the paper trail.
    1) "Hey dad, China is dragging their feet on the new hotel. They said you aren't cool any more."
    2) "YEARRRRGH!!! TRUMP SMASH!!!"
    3) tweet
    4) profit!

  14. Re:Just amazing by Falos · · Score: 1

    It's not my fault you weren't smart enough and Iworkhard enough to bribe the ovarian lottery.

  15. If nothing happens it becomes negative feedback by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

    Trump says X, traders jump on positions that would benefit from X to try and get out in front. However other than the speculative betting there isn't much movement. Then X doesn't happen, so there is no long term movement. The traders disengage from their positions trying to take as little loss as possible.

    This happens over and over and more will learn that acting just loses you money. It's why markets don't do fuck-all in response to Alex Jones. It isn't like his message isn't out there for the world to see, and actually more widely watched than I can fathom, but they don't believe anything will happen based on it so trying to get a first mover advantage can't happen.

    You only gain an advantage by getting in first if the move happens. If it doesn't, at best maybe you can get out without a loss but usually you are going to take a hit to some degree. Thus you act only on those things that are likely to generate a move.

    Traditionally, things the president said would qualify. However Trump is anything but traditional. He shoots his mouth off all the time, regularly contradicts himself, and changes his mind often.

  16. We need more 'crashes' like this by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    So Trump has riled the markets by, so far: criticizing an overpriced aircraft, and being the first Republican to not kiss the butt of the pharma lobby.

    I'm hoping for some more Wall Street action like this.

    1. Re:We need more 'crashes' like this by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      Well, he also under-spent the budget for his transition. I guess that shows he doesn't understand Governmental budgeting because he's not spending it all? Or some such "failure" by not spending it all...

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    2. Re:We need more 'crashes' like this by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      CNN will doubtless spin this as Trump starving the vital Washington party planning industry ("See! Homophobic!").

  17. President-Asterisk Trump by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 1

    Unless that tweet turns into a punitive regulatory action, then you've just lost a chunk of your savings.

    This is a good point. We've gotten used to the Prince Jeoffrey phase of this drama, but winter is coming. The King Jeoffrey phase will be much different.

    In less than 24 hours he goes from being President-Elect Trump to President* Trump, and those tweets might come with executive orders attached. (Twitter is gonna support that, they don't know it yet, but they'll do it soon, believe me.)

    *illegitimately

    1. Re:President-Asterisk Trump by dbIII · · Score: 1

      In less than 24 hours he goes from being President-Elect Trump to President* Trump

      Nowhere enough time for enough PEEOTUS jokes.

  18. Re:paying attention by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    Rhetoric is not reality. All you've been paying attention to is the rhetoric.

  19. Re:Bags by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    Nor is it yours apparently. Trump is most known for being involved in the building of several large buildings, not for being a madman. Sure, his behavior is eccentrically self-promoting, but other than that his behavior isn't noted for madness. I can predict that one of his next moves is to claim credit for the medical bill that the Republican Congress hashes out that he will claim his administration submitted.

  20. Re:Just amazing by unixisc · · Score: 1

    that someone who has no clue how to run a business or deal with financials can have this much sway

    he's gotten lucky all through life. i've seen other wealthy people like this, dumb as a box of rocks and no clue how anything really works in the world, yet they have a ton of money and got lucky owning and running a company that somehow hasn't gone under yet.

    The real amazement is that someone who has 'no clue how to run a business or deal with financials' is a billionaire. I don't either - how do I pull that off?

  21. Re:Bags by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    Trump is most known for being involved in the building of several large buildings

    He's known most for being the host of a reality TV show. Trump voters don't live in a place with a Trump Tower. He only builds those in places where people vote Democrat.

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  22. Re:Towers vs. Reality Show by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    I don't live anywhere near he has built a building. I also don't watch his show. I just happen to recall that he is involved with getting his name put on buildings and either leasing or owning like a condominium parts of them, more clearly and frequently than I remember that he does some show somewhere. I am 40 and have lived mainly in the middle column of the country, except for one year in Virginia Beach in the 12th grade, which was quite an interesting experience. This life may have oriented me towards thinking about his buildings, however, and I don't know how much is replicated in others. I find you have a track record of exceptionally good and exceptionally bad posts, btw.

  23. Re:Rhetoric is real by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    The Chinese respond to rhetoric, but I have found that the Oriental are better than the Occidental in distinguishing between rhetoric and reality, so they are nowhere near acting in a cold war behavior.

    While I can have no idea of what your true knowledge of the situation is, your post is the act of one who, whether pretending or for real, has only been paying attention to the rhetoric.

  24. Re:Relevance? by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    Regardless of whether Trump is a "madman" or a "loose cannon" either of the two terms describe too wide a field to be relevant to the issue of war, nuclear or otherwise. So for that matter, is "level-headed" You choose terms that encompass too wide a field to be relevant to anything then claim to have superior reasoning capabilities. You may be able to think logically enough to be useful in whatever field you apply it in with the relevant data, but your ability to figure out what data is relevant outside that field is sorely lacking. Trump's behavior has far less hidden variables than Hillary's. Both have provided plenty of evidence this is true. Therefore people have more options they are aware of when dealing with Trump.

    Does Hillary saying she has a public position and a private position mean nothing to you?

  25. Re:Relevance? by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    Some eccentric approaches can lead to war and some will not. A further refinement is needed before you can logically declare a given eccentric approach will lead to war. Eccentric means uncommon, not unpredictable or even unstable.
    A "Science" degree, is incomplete to describe a degree. You have Associates, Bachelors, Masters and Dotorates of either Science or the Arts in various disciplines. Law and Humanities are both disciplines.
    Having a public and private position in no way is evidence for or against being more capable than someone who is unable to adjust their position, and in fact you can be someone who is unable to adjust your position and have any number of public and private facing positions. They can all be completely wrong. Even if you can adjust, that doesn't even mean the adjustments are right, thus the backlash against supposed flip-flopping, which is generally irrational, but has roots in a rational problem.

    Trump is someone that gets people to make decisions for him then claims them as his own. Like with the Republican Congress' medical insurance implementation, he will have people working on solutions regarding things that have to do with war. Trump has a track record with buildings that he is involved with things that actually get built. Of his other businesses, while some failed, it appears that while all of them were operating, they at least delivered a product. Trump has a track record of delivering things that people want at least a little bit, and are uninterested in usually at worse. Hillary deliveres things that people express strong preferences that they would not have wanted to be delivered.

  26. Chinese Dragon by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    I think I prefer the Chinese Dragon to Team America. If you play your cards right, the Great Firewall of China is porous. There have been stories where plenty of researchers say they would prefer the Great Firewall be lowered in their case, but they say they do jump through the hoops to get to the information they need, so it is possible. No matter who has been doing what, the conceit of 1984 has never been the case. Plenty of self-help books declare that if you aren't doing something you enjoy it's your own fault.

  27. He's a populist. by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    He will only engage in war if it becomes popular. There's more chance of intervention in the Israel-Palestinian conflict than in Syria. His statements about oil are what's been the popular opinion about the spoils of war since war was a thing. His statements about the spoils of war were provisional about there being war in the first place and was not necessarily an endorsement of committing the wars in the first place. It also was not his biggest complaint.

    His biggest complaint was a lack of jobs followed by statements surrounding immigrants, illegal and H1B's mainly, taking jobs that he thinks should have gone to people already here. Just about anything else was distant.

  28. You're ignoring important distinctions by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    When "rude gestures" are made by military vessels it is a military engagement, and not just "rude gestures".

    When Trump says why can't we use nuclear weapons, it is mainly posturing to figure out why we can't use the threat of nuclear weapons as a bargaining tactic.
    However, any weapon in our arsenal will have a desired effect, and nuclear weapons just seem scary. I am somewhat bothered that the main reason we don't use nuclear weapons is because they have been used on civilian populations when they were used and a use case on using it on military hasn't been made.
    Based on Trump's history, he boast of facts not yet in hand, but gets options based on fact before acting, so when it comes time he will get options from people who do know things that may be better or worse informed than the generals. He does tend to make decisions that at the very least don't have many detractors. People may find his decisions uninteresting, but Trump detractors are upset Trump does not share their philosopy rather than any one decision he made.

  29. You are correct by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    Considering all the bad ideas about Trump floating around and paraded in these comments, yours is refreshingly accurate. You should be modded up 5, insightful, though considering all the above I mentioned, I have doubts it will happen.

  30. Normal vs. corruption by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    I wonder what a world where that is considered normal rather than corruption would be like. My speculations are all over the map from bad to good given the results of capitalism in general.

  31. So... by dargaud · · Score: 1

    So it's artificial intelligence vs natural stupidity...?

    I knew it'd come to that someday.

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  32. How far off the handle? by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    So far, Trump tweets mean things or threatens to sue when someone does something he doesn't like, and if you continue doing something Trump doesn't like he will tweet mean things or threaten to sue again. He rarely ever sues as I understand it, and there are plenty of people who just moved on to other things but didn't back down on the original situation. That is a far different tactic than someone who would easily use nukes would take, like for example people who cross you turning up dead. I can't say for certain that Hillary has been involved with people winding up dead, but to put a new spin on an old campaign slogan, in your heart you know she might. Now where is your real evidence for Trump quickly actually using the nuclear option, and even if then where it would be significantly worse than using conventional weapons. Nukes are scary, but a rational examination of the situation can see the use of nukes without significant retaliation. What no one is asking is what if we are better off using nukes against a select group of enemies? Although Trump did field a similar question.

    1. Re:How far off the handle? by zedaroca · · Score: 1

      "we came, we saw, he died". They do come up dead, maybe not the ones the media likes to bring attention to, but thousands of Libyans are dead because she thought that it would be good for her campaign if they were out of the way.

  33. Stupid choices by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    We had stupid choices for president. I didn't vote as none of them shared my values very much. Hillary shares some of the tactics my family is known to employ, but she is a rank amature in comparison. This is my brother: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oc... I am sort of a black sheep in the family as I have little to show for my life. I am a bit like the ruler of the universe in "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"

  34. Ignorance is definitely not bliss by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    I find that when people don't understand what I say, it usually turns out to be due to ignorance on their part. I also find it is generally the case. So in the future, you should probably lead with it's your own ignorance to blame.

    To put what I said in blander terms. I said that I might like greater Chinese influence in the world as opposed to what America has been doing in the world. China has a system that prevents its citizens from accessing materials the Chinese government doesn't want them to see because it might cause opposition to the government. This system is generally referred to as "The Great Firewall of China". However, it has been communicated, even right here on this very site, that if someone really wants to access said materials, a way can be found. There is a book written by George Orwell called "1984". In it, people are persecuted for doing things that they find enjoyable that the state frowns upon. That is not the rationale for the Chinese system, and people are still free enough to continuously find things they find enjoyable. There are books called self-help books. Among them are books that say they will help you enjoy life more. One of the major elements in such books is that you simply don't know what the book will teach you and in so learning the contents within you will enjoy life better, so the reason you weren't enjoying life so much before is simply your fault.

    If you still have trouble understanding any of this, point out specific details and your best guess as to what it might mean and I may be able to help you understand further. But it is simply your fault you don't understand.

    1. Re:Ignorance is definitely not bliss by Maritz · · Score: 2

      The reason it's "hard" to understand is because it's incoherent babble, not because it's some kind of stunningly profound insight that takes a keen mind to interpret.

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    2. Re:Ignorance is definitely not bliss by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      It is neither incoherent babble nor some kind of stunningly profound insight that takes a keen mind to interpret. People just tend to have a limited vocabulary and tend to get things wrong. My mom has to write "verbally attack" or people come back thinking that she could possibly mean a physical attack, when the meaning should be clear from the context. People really are that dense.

  35. Sore winners by dbIII · · Score: 1

    It's over. No point rabbiting on about warmonger Hillary wanting to kill Ghadaffi (just like Reagan) while peaceful Trump put up a tent for him in his back yard.

    A really bizzare thing is getting pop-up ads (dunno how it made it past the blocker) about "video proof - how Hillary rigged the election". She lost months ago - who are the fucking tools paying money for this shit?

  36. Re:Relevance? by hackwrench · · Score: 1
    I did not find a sentiment that equatest to "Some eccentric approaches can lead to war and some will not " in your comments above. What you communicated was that all eccentric approaches ale more likely to lead to war than conventional approaches.

    Clinton's stance, war-like though it was, was both more predictable and less likely to lead to nuclear conflagration

    This is where we disagree. Clinton keeps her real positions private. This makes her unpredictable. My whole family are masters at the private-public game and my father is an attorney that for some reason prefers to sell children's clothes at Macy's. He also took off with those of us children that belong to him. My mom had another child after divorcing him. I have a sister that died, a brother who seems rather successful but married a Chinese woman, a half-sister that teaches, but has married and divorced several times, and a mother with a Bachelor's degree in psychology that drives for Uber. That isn't predictable.

    To be charitable, he might be referred to as "hard bargaining".
    Eccentric is hardly a good euphemism for "volatile". You fail at English. And volatile covers a wide range of actions as well. covering saying mean things to people to all-out warfare. And Trump is the saying mean things to people sort of person, not the all-out warfare type. And volatility is a make up of Hillary as well, as evidenced by her actions on going to war as Secretary of State. There are problems with the word, volitile as well. It can mean quick to anger or unpredictable. You are an utter failure at word choices.

    You continue to illustate your lack of understanding of things outside your skill-set by thinking that talking like a person who is uninformed about how degrees work is actually an illustration of how much you know. Utter failure.

    Now as you said, you might not read this, but i find it might be helpful to illustrate to others why your behavior should be a textbook example on how not to communicate well.

  37. Re:He's off his rocker by dbIII · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As a senator, Hillary voted for the Iraq war

    As did every single Republican and most of the Democrats.

    As secretary of state, she supported the intervention in Libya

    As President, Reagan bombed Libya.

    She advocated for deeper American involvement in Syria

    So did McCain and many many others.


    Now she doesn't matter. It's those many many others who wanted to act the same way who are still in power are the ones you should be taking to task unless you don't care about being seen as hopelessly partisan and amoral.

    entertainment value

    Get back to me in a year and let's see if you think that entertainment was worth it.

  38. Re:Rhetoric is real by dbIII · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The Chinese are more interested in the personal than the position. They are more likely to take Trump's insults as his word instead of dismissing his bullshit as "locker room banter".
    Imperial Japan was different in a lot of ways, but the lesson of rattling sabres at them too many times resulting in the Pearl Harbor attack still applies. What we see as bluffs and bluster can be seen as serious threats that must be addressed for fear of being seen as being weak domestically and being in danger of being replaced.
    If (ok, being stupid here, it has to be "when") Trump insults Xi personally then Xi has to take some sort of action or he'll soon lose his hold on power as someone else steps up to replace the "weak" leader. I can see it escalating to a cold war and proxy war level very quickly. Sadly that trust fund baby draft dodger just does not have a fucking clue about it.

  39. Re:He's off his rocker by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

    Hillary was way more of a war monger

    ...than who? The actual warmongers of this world? Despite all the involvement of the US in global politics, there's never been a short supply of regional crazies. The idea that Hillary is/was a warmonger is an idea from the bottom of your liquor bottle. The same goes for Trump, actually.

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  40. Re:He's off his rocker by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

    All of these have been unmitigated disasters for America, so her judgement doesn't appear to be so good.

    That only tells us she wouldn't be a better pacifist than Obama and Bush Jr. Not that she'd end the world as we know it, which is apparently what a lot of Trump supporters want you to think.

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  41. Re:Just amazing by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

    The real amazement is that someone who has 'no clue how to run a business or deal with financials' is a billionaire. I don't either - how do I pull that off?

    The best way to pull it off is to have a parent from whom you inherit many billions of assets. That way you can afford to lose a few billion here and there through incompetence and still be a billionaire.

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  42. Re:paying attention by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

    So when Trump says in public that the US should seize Iraqi oil fields for itself, it's just "rhetoric", but when Clinton doesn't say that she intends to start WW III, if you're a Trump supporter, that's exactly what she wants to do?

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  43. Re:He's off his rocker by Maritz · · Score: 2

    Sure looks like his stance on vaccines is going to have an associated bodycount. But hey, it's all about the popcorn.

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  44. Re:He's off his rocker by hipp5 · · Score: 1

    Another good point about his presidency is the entertainment value. Popcorn sales should go way up. Hillary would have been dull.

    Right. Because entertainment value is what we should be looking for in the most powerful person in the world. /sarcasm

    Seriously, isn't that what you Americans have the Kardashians for?

  45. Re:Towers vs. Reality Show by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    I just happen to recall that he is involved with getting his name put on buildings

    So is Ronald McDonald.

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  46. Re:Just amazing by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

    If you invested your hard earned money instead of buying an iPod, iPhone or iPad (when they came out) , into Apple stock, you'd be able to buy all three today, and have money left over.

    Back in the early 80s my grandparents bought $100 worth of Apple stock. They promptly forgot about it as Apple didn't pay out dividends for years. All of a sudden a couple years ago they got a check in the mail from Apple once they started paying out again. Turns out their stock had been split a few times and ended up owning about $20k worth of shares that they sold off. Not bad for a $100 investment. If only they could have been able to afford $1000 worth of stock back then, but my grandfather was a college basketball coach and not making all that much money.

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  47. Re:He's off his rocker by GLMDesigns · · Score: 1

    There isn't a cold war on the horizon unless China keeps pushing it's one china policy and tries to prevent traffic from going through the South China Seas. Vietnam, India, South Korea and Japan are extremely concerned about this. The Philippines I don't know. Their position has been changing.

    Trade war is not going to happen. It will hurt both sides too much. China has been devaluating their currency in order to keep exports strong. They have been limiting imports. Trump has been pushing back (so what).

    Trade War. Cold War. Nuclear War. grow up people.

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  48. Re:He's off his rocker by higuita · · Score: 1

    yep, because all other wars went so well for the USA and were always voted by both sides...

    by the way, how will he "destroy ISIL"? by twitter?

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  49. Re:Just amazing by deadwill69 · · Score: 1

    It's amazing how well you can do when you have daddy's money. Based on most calculations I have read, he would be twice as rich if he had just put it in the bank.

    http://www.moneytalksnews.com/...

  50. Nothing by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    He has done nothing. Exactly that. and that is the point. The problem of face is a valid one, but the Chinese control of information within their nation is one reason why they won't have a problem with having to save face to their countrymen. I admit that I could be wrong on that though, and the reply by dbIII goes into decent detail about what could go wrong.

  51. Re:Rhetoric is real by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    The problem of face is a valid one, but the Chinese control of information within their nation is one reason why they won't have a problem with having to save face to their countrymen. I admit that I could be wrong on that though.

    The situation the Japanese faced was more than a matter of saber rattling, though. https://www.bing.com/search?q=... returns some nifty explanations of all that was going on, including https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  52. Re:He's off his rocker by Coren22 · · Score: 2

    his tax evasion

    If you have evidence of him evading taxes, you should contact the IRS, as it is, they have audited him ever year for a while and found no evidence of your accusation. You might be able to make a huge difference if you can bring this evidence forward.

    As for Clinton, conspiracy theories about Pizzagate, Clinton Foundation, and World War 3.

    Wow, just wow. You seem to have forgotten dodging the records act, having classified information on a home server, and encouraging aides to commit a felony by removing classification markings from classified documents. Oh well, Trump is so horrible in comparison...because you don't like him.

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  53. Re:Rhetoric is real by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    Sadly that trust fund baby draft dodger just does not have a fucking clue about it.

    Did the trust fund baby draft dodger Bill Clinton have a better clue in your mind?

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  54. Re:He's off his rocker by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    Did I miss some incredible news? Did Trump launch a nuclear warhead?

    how many nuclear warheads Hillary unleashed on an unsuspecting world while she was Secretary.

    The same number that Trump has unleashed.

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  55. Re:He's off his rocker by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    Bill Clinton for President of the Galaxy?

    The President is always a controversial choice, always an infuriating but fascinating character. His job is not to wield power but to draw attention away from it.

    - HHGTTG

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  56. Re:Rhetoric is real by dbIII · · Score: 1

    No - read stuff by Christopher Hitchens for a bit of a rundown on Bill Clinton's failings. Hitchens liked Democrats but saw that as no reason to go easy on Clinton
    Why the fuck do things degenerate into naive shouting for teams whenever something related to politics is mentioned here?

  57. Re:Rhetoric is real by dbIII · · Score: 1

    one reason why they won't have a problem with having to save face to their countrymen

    It is other people in the top of the Party that he has to worry about and they have the same access to outside information.

    The situation the Japanese faced was more than a matter of saber rattling

    Yes, like all analogies one thing is only similar but not identical to the other thing, and I didn't want to stir up an argument about US foreign policy of the time by going into detail (especially since years ago I talked to an old Korean who grew up during the time of Imperial Japanese occupation). I used it as an analogy because the USA was not prepared for the consequences of what Imperial Japan saw as provocation - hand in an ants nest without wearing gloves territory. I'm not questioning the validity of the actions just referring to the surprise when a response happened.

  58. Re:STFU hypocrite moron by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    Funny, last I checked, it was not starting trouble with you to point out your errors, and to tell you to back off of people that you are stalking. If you would like, I could have the police come by and show you how stalking is not something that is appropriate online or off.

    I find it funny that you think you shot down anything when you seem to have missed the side of the barn with your shots. I replied, I provided the references to other conversations we have had previously, you are the one who is scared to admit when you have been wrong in the past, not I. But go ahead and keep stalking me, and spouting racist nonsense against some third party from Twitter who isn't me.

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  59. Re:Too bad I shot you down easily... apk by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    As in science, all it takes is one example to disprove a theory, and I posted a link to it.

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  60. Re:Glen Burnie Maryland threats? LOL! by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    Um, WTF are you spouting off about? You seem to think I am the one harassing you as you are posting calling me the n word (which is blocked by /.) around 10 times? When have I harassed or stalked you? I pass up numerous opportunities to reply to you every day. You seem to confuse me getting tired of your stalking other people as being the same as stalking you.

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  61. Re:More lies about me too Coren22? by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    Already repeatedly pointed you to that, why do it yet again?

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  62. Re:Back up your lies here too retarded blowhard by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    As I have repeatedly explained to you, I AM NOT A PROGRAMMER. No matter how often you ask for my programs, it just makes me laugh, as you seem to think only programmers contribute to technology. I have also explained that I like not being in jail, so I won't and can't show you what I have done. As all you do is sit around your house, I understand the lack of understanding in that some people are bound by contracts not to talk about what they do for a living.

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  63. Re:Can't keep your word Coren22 retard? by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    That is nice, at the time I was in a different job. Should I point out that you said you would stop trolling me as well?

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  64. Re:Show us where I said it Coren22! by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    It seems you might have a reading comprehension issue, have you ever been diagnosed?

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  65. Re:I didn't do it moron by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    Yeah, so you weren't harassing raymorris? Do you often have problems with the truth? That can be diagnosed.

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  66. Re:You're full of it w/ proof (eat your words) by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    LOL, keep grabbing those straws. Your software was marked malware, you act like the typical malware author, you refuse to release source code, like a malware author. If it quacks like a duck...

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  67. Re:But you've done "so much more" (bs) by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    Sticks and stones little one.

    HAHAHAHA, I need to leave you, the biggest harasser on Slashdot, alone? What drugs are you on, and where does one obtain them?

    Do you really think I care if you know my home city? After all, you publish your address in your software begging for handouts from people who use it.

    So, please, come and see me, then it will be Assault (above), and Battery. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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  68. Re:Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!" liar by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    Yes, diagnosed. You have shown over and over that there is something wrong there. Others have suggested possible diagnosis, and you always try to claim that they aren't your psychiatrist. Perhaps you should revisit that clean bill of health, as it is obvious that you have huge glaring mental issues.

    To start, I expect you cannot in any way resist replying to every one of my replies with more of your claiming of have won the argument without making any points at all.

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  69. Re:Nope! Only truth about raymorris to diagnose by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    That right there proves me right. Thank you.

    https://slashdot.org/comments....

    Now, as to your drivel; no one who posts on the internet is talking behind your back unless they are posting to a board you have no access to. This is just more of your disorders coming out. As for lying, you are the kind of it, so I guess you would spot it, but what does that have to do with harassing and stalking him to try and point out his perceived lies?

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  70. Re:Give me your name & address then pussy by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    Donald J. Trump
    1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW
    Washington, DC 20500

    LOL...as if. I just have to say, the tears are delicious though. You can't stand to not know who I am since I have so thoroughly thrashed you intellectually.

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  71. Re:Coren22 you're the one w/ assburger brain by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    Did you ever actually learn grammar when you were in school? I can already see you never learned logic, as declaring your win, and other's liars kind of requires some kind of evidence, which you never provide...interestingly enough.

    Keep shouting to the rafters about my "assburgers" as it just makes you look ignorant. You don't seem to understand what Asperger's syndrome was, and that you are making fun of an autistic person who was made fun of their whole life for being different. You can't make a dent in my confidence, nor make my day bad, so just give it up. You sound worse than the jocks making fun of us nerds because they don't get us.

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  72. Re:1 disreputable 'source' Coren22? Quoting you by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    What was that? All I could hear was more quacking.

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  73. Re:Confidence being a lying retard? LOL! by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    I am sure you can find live pussy in your local strip joint, or on the nearest red light district street corner. Good luck nailing any of that pussy though.

    As far as where I live, why should I let someone know who is commiting assault right at this moment by threatening to "settle this in person" as if he is some kind of tough guy.

    As far as one dimensional, are you projecting? I did many things, not just tech related. I am a second degree brown belt in Tae Kwon Do, I worked in the drama program at school, I even played sports! But I guess you are so good at projecting, I must be the one who didn't do anything in high school. Also, I never got in a fight, because I know better than to pick stupid fights with stupid people who are in hitting range.

    If you took logic in school, they should have flunked you, because you're "winning" attitude is pathetic, you don't even make an argument, just declare victory and act like the other person "ran" away from your terrible points.

    As for impersonating the president, it is my prerogative.

    Here's my address, come see me big tough guy:

    935 Pennsylvania Ave NW
    Washington, DC 20535

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  74. Re:Hahahaha Coren22 the chicken dick... apk by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    Wow, you have hurt my feelings by calling me all those terrible names. I wonder myself how a sociopath like you lives with yourself every day as well, but I get along just fine thank you.

    Why would I tell someone who is committing assault against me where I live? Do you advertise your address to people you know have threatened to bodily harm you? Assault is when you threaten to harm someone, as you have now repeatedly done. You can try and claim that you haven't, but it doesn't change the legal implications of the threats you are throwing about. NO ONE on a public board is posting behind your back, that sounds like paranoid schizophrenia, you should have that looked at. If we are posting on a public board, it is right in front of your freaking face, not behind your back. Behind your back would be us emailing back and forth about how much you screw up all the time.

    Why would I call the cops? I am letting you hang yourself with all the rope you need. When you do significant crimes, I will be sure to drop some anonymous tips, which is all that is needed to have you committed for observation.

    Ruin your reputation? As if you didn't do that to yourself by making significant technical blunders.

    PS, keep projecting there, I am not the one who made a career out of lying. You act like you are the peak of technical knowledge when you make basic errors in networking and security. You just don't like when people point out your lies, and instead try to shout them down because you think it makes you look professional and knowledgable to act like an asshole online.

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  75. Re:Coren22 prove your words quoted here by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    I feel bad for you. You are so delusional you can't even see your bullshit anymore. I have answered this on numerous occasions, yet you keep repeating it like somehow the facts will change. I won't back down, your dodging of facts will not become the new facts.

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  76. Re:Coren22, evasions? Prove your words quoted by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    I made no mistake. Just because you conveniently forgot the conversation does not mean it didn't happen. I have already pointed you to it previously, and continuously asking for it again just makes you look like a deaf person. You are just making a fool of yourself yet again, so please, keep it up.

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