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Scientists Enter Hawaii Dome In Eight-Month Mars Space Mission Study (reuters.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Reuters: Six scientists have entered a dome perched atop a remote volcano in Hawaii where they will spend the next eight months in isolation to simulate life for astronauts traveling to Mars, the University of Hawaii said. The study is designed to help NASA better understand human behavior and performance during long space missions as the U.S. space agency explores plans for a manned mission to the Red Planet. The crew will perform geological field work and basic daily tasks in the 1,200-square-foot (365 m) dome, located in an abandoned quarry 8,000 feet (2.5 km) above sea level on the Mauna Loa volcano on Hawaii's Big Island. There is little vegetation and the scientists will have no contact with the outside world, said the university, which operates the dome. Communications with a mission control team will be time-delayed to match the 20-minute travel time of radio waves passing between Earth and Mars. "Daily routines include food preparation from only shelf-stable ingredients, exercise, research and fieldwork aligned with NASA's planetary exploration expectations," the university said. The project is intended to create guidelines for future missions to Mars, some 35 million miles (56 million km) away, a long-term goal of the U.S. human space program. The NASA-funded study, known as the Hawaii Space Exploration Analog and Simulation (Hi-SEAS), is the fifth of its kind.

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  1. Wow. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm truly impressed by how far some Americans are willing to go to escape a Trump presidency. ;)

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    1. Re:Wow. by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm truly impressed by how far some Americans are willing to go to escape a Trump presidency. ;)

      I am also impressed at far some Americans are willing to go to do pointless redundant research instead of just looking at how sailors deal with life on a submarine.

    2. Re:Wow. by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I am also impressed at far some Americans are willing to go to do pointless redundant research instead of just looking at how sailors deal with life on a submarine.

      We only spent a couple months at a time making holes in the ocean. Plus we had a lot more possible social interactions (100+ in a boat, as opposed to six in the dome).

      So, worth the trouble of doing. Not like it's going to cost trillions (or even billions, or even large numbers of millions) to do....

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    3. Re:Wow. by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'm truly impressed by how far some Americans are willing to go to escape a Trump presidency. ;)

      Unfortunately, they will emerge from their Hawaiian Dome to find that US President Mark Zuckerberg has purchased all the land surrounding the dome, and turned it into a sort of Dr. Moreau island, where they will need to play through a "The Most Dangerous Game" / "Escape from New Your" scenario.

      Under Zuckerberg, American folks will be looking back to the Trump Presidency as, "The good old days" . . .

      US President Zuckerberg? Remember in 12 years that you heard it first, here on scenic Slashdot, "Nudes for Nerds" . . .

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    4. Re:Wow. by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Folks, we need to find a spot that most closely simulates the brutal conditions on Mars. Or we could go to Hawaii. Let's see a show of hands in favor of Hawaii.

    5. Re:Wow. by ElizabethGreene · · Score: 4, Informative

      This is different from a submarine in some important ways. On a Submarine, you have many dozens of people to interact with. You are physically confined, but you have some social variety. Your mission is dangerous, but you have the comfort of knowing that it's been done before. Tours are, IIRC, 6 months long.

      A Mars expedition is different. You're going to train with these people continuously for at least 5 years. During that time you'll constantly be on your best going-to-church-with-grandma behavior and never speak up about grievances because your actions are being monitored ad nauseum by a legion of shrinks. Then you finally get the mission go and you spend (optimistically) 3 months in a space the size of a minivan. Remember your last trip in a minivan? Imagine being trapped in it for 3 months with 5 other people while NASA is scheduling your day down to 15 minute increments.

      If a thousand things you can't control happen to go right then you land on Mars. EVA suits on, and you finally escape that (obscenity laden) capsule. You see a horizon for the first time in what feels like forever. Then you work your ass off for a month and have to climb back in that (expletive) minivan for a risk-laden trip back home that takes even longer than the trip to get there. ... and during the entire trip you don't have a single shower.

      It's not "exactly" like life on a submarine, is it?

    6. Re:Wow. by hey! · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'm also impressed how Americans can just instantly know how to do a research project better than the principal investigator without looking at the PI's reasons for doing the project his way.

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    7. Re: Wow. by Rewind · · Score: 3, Funny

      The top of Mount Everest seems the most logical to me. It's really fucking cold and the atmosphere is thin enough to kill you. Just set up a shelter that has a heavily tinted sun roof.

      || Mount Everest Mars Project - Administrator Log ||

      Day 1 - Per ArmoredDragon's suggestions we have constructed a dome on Everest. Sun roof is nice. Moral is good and we begin the study tomorrow. History will remember us as giants of our era!
      Day 4 - Experiments progressing nicely!
      Day 12 - Today a tourist climbing group came by. Most of them just chucked used oxygen bottles at us, but one waved. These are likely to be the last climbers of the year.
      Day 20 - It is getting very cold in the dome, we lost 3 researchers today.
      Day 31 - Lost 7 today, but our work is invaluable! Moral seems to be holding.
      Day 34 - Only one lost today. Sun roof has collapsed. Bob already ate the last of the Soup at Hand... Screw Bob.
      Day 42 - Lost 2 more researchers. Moral starting to decline, but we found Mallory and Irvine's camera and it looks like we will be able to develop the film! EXCITEMENT!
      Day 43 - Film only contains dick pics... 4 more researchers lost. Moral extremely low.
      Day 46 - 3 lost... Food has run dry. Forced to 'repurpose' research subject Bob...
      Day 49 - Lost 8 more today... down to shoe and belt leather rations. Moral continues to decline. Sent 2 to base camp for help.
      Day 53 - WHY DIDN'T WE JUST STICK WITH HAWAII?!? WHY WON'T YOU MONSTERS COME GET US? WHY?!?!?

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    8. Re:Wow. by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 2

      SSBNs stay submerged for 6 months at a time. I don't think the difference between 6 and 8 is enough to matter.

      Umm, no. I served on USS Kamehameha. SSBN 642. Two months and change out, switch crews, repeat forever.

      Many subs have had smaller crews, and nearly all of your interactions are with a few people at your work station.

      While virtually all subs had smaller crews than modern SSBN's, they seldom had crews fewer than 30 or so. Notable exceptions being an assortment of "minisubs" used at various points in WW2, all of which spent a couple days underway at a time.

      And it might surprise you to know that you seldom socialize all that much with they guys at your workstation. When you're working, you're too busy for much in the way of social interactions. You interact socially with the guys on the messdeck during meals and movies (when you can stay awake to watch a movie).

      Note that one of the biggest problems with a trip to Mars is likely to be boredom. Six of you in a freefall can. No course changes, no repairs, not much in the way of science to do till arrival.

      Mind you, a lot of that can be fixed by sending a bigger expedition - 60 guys plus instrumentation and such for doing some decent science while underway, that sort of thing....

      But there is another huge psychological consideration that makes a sub much more like a space flight: You can't quit.

      Now this I can't argue with. A good point. Note that this makes the test even more (potentially) useful. If the guys in the dome can't handle it in Easy Mode, sure as shooting it won't work for a Real Mars mission....

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  2. Re:Distance to Mars is not constant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So they're simulating the worst case scenario of 22 light minutes and rounding down to 20. That's not unreasonable.

  3. THE HAWAII DOME by bistromath007 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Two scientists enter, five scientists leave.

  4. They seem to have forgotten one important thing by donaldm · · Score: 2

    The gravity on Mars s 38% less than Earth.

    Of course, you still have to take into account weightlessness on the trip to Mars but I think the iInternational Space Station has that covered. Considering that once you leave Earth magnetic field you are going to get allot of radiation from the sun so you need protection there. When you get to Mars the only safe place is underground or in radiation proof pressurized housing since the atmospheric pressure on Mars is about 0.6% of Earth 's at sea level.

    A better test would be to go back to the moon and run your tests there and it would be a lot safer for the prospective astronauts but that does not have the "wow" factor.

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  5. Re:Shouldn't the dome be in Antartica? by tomhath · · Score: 2

    Six people are locked in a closet. A few dozen other researchers are spending 8 months hanging out on the beach in Hawaii.

  6. Re:Distance to Mars is not constant by PPH · · Score: 2

    Worst case would be if they had iPhones with Verizon service.

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  7. 8 months, huh? by NoZart · · Score: 2

    Somebody tries to dodge the "unwanted pregnancy" thing, i guess ;-)