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You Don't Need an Antivirus (Except Microsoft's Built-in on Windows), Says Former Firefox Developer (ocallahan.org)
Former Firefox developer Robert O'Callahan believes that antivirus software is not necessary, AV vendors are of little help, and that you should uninstall your antivirus software immediately. From a blog post: Users have been fooled into associating AV vendors with security and you don't want AV vendors bad-mouthing your product. AV software is broadly installed and when it breaks your product, you need the cooperation of AV vendors to fix it. (You can't tell users to turn off AV software because if anything bad were to happen that the AV software might have prevented, you'll catch the blame.) When your product crashes on startup due to AV interference, users blame your product, not AV. Worse still, if they make your product incredibly slow and bloated, users just think that's how your product is.
i do all my porn and risky surfing on a VM on my main computer that i keep shut off unless i'm using it. and i avoid virtually all chrome extensions unless they are from someone i trust with a real corporate email in the contacts.
...VIRUS CLEAN ANTIVIRUS
The writing has been on the wall for a while now. You rarely get "just AV" when you install an AV product these days. You end up with a whole suite of value added applications like password managers, system optimizers, registry cleaners, web site scanners, IPS and content filters, etc.
The reactionary system we have been living in was never very good. Relying on signatures to detect malware is a fundamentally flawed system. As the operating systems and, more importantly, the applications that run on them become increasingly secure, the need for the signature-based AV systems declines.
Any AV software company has seen this coming for a long time. At least I would hope they have.
My eyes reflect the stars and a smile lights up my face.
Do they? Everyone I know associates AV vendors with bloatware/malware. Except for, say, MalwareBytes. There are exceptions, just not many.
Further, any software you install likely creates new security holes in your system. By installing an AV you are likely opening up more holes then you are closing.
There are three main sources of security holes:
1) Holes in the OS that the OS manufacturer needs to close
2) Holes in installed software that the software manufacturer needs to close
3) Holes in the user's general security intelligence.
None of those are solved by adding ANOTHER software suite.
I started removing AV from clients computers years ago. All it does is slow your PC down. Every time I had to deal with an infection, the PC involved had AV, that was sometimes very hard to remove.
malware removal services should just be a tax on the easily confused.
I like to have Malwarebytes on my machines.
Certainly only old people still fall for the aftermarket AV scam? I quit years ago when AVG transitioned to "worse than the disease" status.
Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K.
I haven't had a virus ever, I mean ever in 25 years of using a computer. Just don't click pop ups,always use an ad blocker and don't open those "official" emails from Microsoft wanting to update your system or Nigeria wanting to send you 40 million dollars. Only jackasses get viruses nowadays. Don't visit porn sites either. Its not hard, just people are inherently stupid thus getting spyware and viruses needlessly.
I don't trust Microsoft, nor the AV vendors. :|
The internet tech seem terrible imo, and nobody seem to do anything other than letting this shit show continue.
As if everybody involved in making money or running a government kept saying: "Fuck privacy and fuck security."
The textfiles site has a collection of old CD. One of them has virus signatures that trigger Windows Defender, among others, and some of them are quite harmless.
I don't use AV, but the average person still needs it. The average person either doesn't know or doesn't care what they are clicking on. As part of a layered defense strategy for the average user, it is still needed. Personally, I don't like AV stealing my CPU cycles. I use other methods, common sense chief amongst them, to prevent infection.
These days one of the best AV products is a good ad blocker. I can protect myself from sketchy downloads: don't download sketchy software or from sketchy sites. I can't prevent some asshat from exploiting a zero day in a browser through an ad on a mainstream site, except by blocking all ads on all sites.
*Yes, trusted sites can be comprised and it's happened in the past where downloads were infected but the odds that I'll download that software during that window where the infected files are being handed out are about the same as me getting stuck by lightning.
I browse on +1 so AC's need not respond, I won't see it.
Let's be real with ourselves. Nowadays the vectors for attack are easily protected so long as you use a modern browser that sandboxes itself and use an ad blocker you really don't need anything more than the built in AV and firewall tools for windows. I don't even think OSX provides an AV tool.
I haven't paid for antivirus software since 2005 which was coincidentally when I discovered Firefox and Adblocking extension.
I'll stick with the free tools.
This would be why even Windows Defender has an option to ignore files and directories of your choosing.
I've been telling people for YEARS that AV is obsolete. All you have to do is limit your browsing (stay away from porn/downloads) and you're basically gold so long as you keep windows up to date.
For the last 10 years I've had a laptop that I've used solely for web browsing/anything we based... and a gaming PC that only connects to the internet for games, and that's it.
In terms of speed/performance... the biggest difference I've seen is from using a registry cleaner.
AV products actually make you less secure. They act as a MITM, replacing certificates with their own and totally defeating the purpose of TLS/HTTPS.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
That and organizations with more than ten PCs running Windows 7. The last time I checked, the built-in AV on Windows 7 (Microsoft Security Essentials) was licensed for use only on up to ten PCs in an organization, after which the organization is expected to either A. buy the appropriate Windows Server license and the appropriate Microsoft System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection license, or B. upgrade to Windows 8 or later where MSE was integrated into Windows Defender.
With Malwarebytes and BitDefender. I don't go for the big all-in-one "security quites", so the simpler approach works great for me.
Eat the rich.
They suck your ram, bombard you with ads and tracking and they try to be an operating system over what used to be a static document viewer.
This story needs some APK posts.
I find that SPI firewalls, execution prevention, careful permissions for limited users, NoScript and other tools are far superior to an AV.
Liberal OS policies and platforms are not ideal for anything you;d hate to lose. Often you would not know that something malicious is running.
With multiple layers of security on a system that does not change often you can have fine grain control of anything. An odd internet connection attempt, a never heard of before program attempting to run etc -that reasonable easy to catch.
AV vendors have been packaging (shoving) everything included as soon as they realised AVs are done. Unfortunately the desktop class products are often more trouble than they are worth.
That being said, I still advocate the complete security packages from AV vendors for users that know little being logging into facebook. They are clueless and could not manage a complex system a "security suite" type program is their best bet.
A 'singular oddity' is an event that cannot be explained and only happens when you are alone.
I started using Avira instead of Microsoft Security Essentials because I found that MSE does not catch all viruses out there. I also occasionally scan the system with herdprotect which uses 68 anti-malware engines to scan for viruses.
http://www.avira.com/
http://www.herdprotect.com/
In real-world tests Avira, Bitdefender and F-secure blocked 99.9% of viruses whereas Microsoft Security Essentials only blocked 97%.
https://chart.av-comparatives.org/chart1.php
Just navigate to the page you want on wired.com.
Highlight the text and pictures in your browser, control-C, and paste it into Word before they hit you with the "About those ad blockers..." message.
It takes a second, but you read what you want and piss on their massive load of scripts and ads.
(I run noscript, which they don't like)
of the better commercial products. Kaspersky will typically catch 40% more bugs. All the people going "prevention is the best medicine" are right but you still need AV for when prevention fails. Across an institution with a thousand computers that is just bound to happen. It's only a question of how many times per year. And Kaspersky is dirt cheap. That's what we use where I work and that's what I use at home too.
an appliance [...] prevents anyone from programming aka becoming more productive [and] stops users reaching enlightenment and getting the computer to do what it's for - lots of repetitive tasks in an automated manner.
Which elicits a big "So?" from appliance fans.
The majority of the population do not read Slashdot. I imagine that most either A. use computing devices for entertainment rather than "becoming more productive" or B. prefer to outsource the programming to a specialist rather than "reaching enlightenment" themselves. For evidence of these, look at the popularity of iPod touch, iPhone, iPad, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, PlayStation 4, and Xbox One. For evidence of preference of delegation to a specialist, look at the popularity of services such as Jiffy Lube rather than doing your own car maintenance.
This is on par with the anti vaccine people. Please, go get infected morons. We need the stupid people to occupy the malware authors' time so they leave the rest of us alone.
Firefox is slow and bloated anyway.
Anything that adds delay to I/O requests is "bad" without adequate concurrency. AV just sets a new baseline.
What hosts do addons can't (or as well):
PROTECT vs.:
1.) bad sites (past ads)
2.) fastflux C&C
3.) dynDNS C&C
4.) DGA C&C
5.) DNS down
6.) poisoned dns
7.) trackers (dnsrequestlogs/ads/transparent ISP proxy)
8.) spam/phish payload
9.) dns blocks
10.) slowdown 2 ways: adblocks & hardcodes
11.) Multiplatform
12.) Ez data edit
13.) Efficiency (cpu/ram/I-O)
14.) UBlock no DNS bennys = poor imitation = "sincerest form of flattery"
15.) NoScript tag parses. Hosts block adservers before it cheaper
APK
P.S.=> AB+ 151mb http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/adblocker-memory-consumption.jpg/
UBlock 64MB http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/adblocker-memory-consumption.jpg/
(hosts ~6mb)
ClarityRay defeatable
Don't work http://www.businessinsider.com/google-microsoft-amazon-taboola-pay-adblock-plus-to-stop-blocking-their-ads-2015-2/
SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions/686041/which-leads-to-faster-browsing-an-ad-blocker-or-an-edited-hosts-file/
I run Linux, a browser with ad blocking, and a hosts file with 94.5k entries (for shady sites) that redirect to a dummy IP.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
Use a script blocker instead of an ad blocker, and only whitelist the main news page.
Their answer to NoScript is to make everything past the abstract JavaScript-dependent.
Because no matter how tightly you close a window, it still leaks infections like a $5 hooker.
My main concerns with AV in general, like with many apps, are the integrity of the delivery channel (initial installation and updates) and the quality of the binary itself.
MS has put tremendous effort into both these areas, so I tend to trust their products, including OSs. Many other app vendors, including AV, have shipped with gaping holes in their products and/or their update mechanisms.
The first rule in security is to minimize the attack surface, which includes the number of vendors and apps you let onto your system. Since MS has removed my ability to control Win10 updates, and wound up doing a pretty good job of creating and managing updates, I decided they get first shot as my primary AV tool.
No regrets, so far.
If you browse an anything other than -1, you're an asshole.
The mod system is biased against A/Cs, many of which make very intelligent and insightful comments. These comments remain hidden, until the mods hold the opinion that it is suitable for your reading pleasure. The system is abused in order to push agendas.
By browsing at anything other than -1, you're letting other people influence your opinion by allowing them to determine what you should, or shouldn't bother reading.
Learn to think for yourselves.
Go ahead and mod me down now, in an attempt to hide the truth.
This is terrible. If you want to it this way use a firewall that supports block lists. Doing host files is idiotic. It's machine by machine and a PITA to manage.
I browse on +1 so AC's need not respond, I won't see it.
Linux. Enough said.
...don't write a shitty browser like Firefox and you won't have to deal with the crap he's complaining about...
Bullshit. I can block hosts using any list you can use in APK at my firewall. And when I do it covers my entire network, not just the machines I put them on.
I browse on +1 so AC's need not respond, I won't see it.
To some extent I agree.......the -1 posts should be shown in collapsed form, so at least you know they are there.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
See my post: If you don't want to use addons then do it at the firewall where you can more easily manage lists you use and you don't have to do it on a machine by machine basis.
There are firewall firmware available that can use the same blocklists APK uses, but they cover your entire network. Stop shilling for APK.
I browse on +1 so AC's need not respond, I won't see it.
The app stores are about control and money. None of it to benefit you!
First and foremost almost all app stores are about the company making money off of other people's products. Apple really showed this when they stopped applications from being able to buy things like ebooks. Apple wasn't happy because they were not getting their cut for doing nothing.
Then you have control. Again Apple shows this best with not allowing anyone to compete with their products and not allowing other app stores to function.
Microsoft, Apple, Google, Amazon what's the difference? All steal money from devs and control with walled gardens.
Again, hostnames = easily moved to another bad hosting provider by malwaremakers/botnet herders changes IP ADDRESS (rendering firewalls useless which is WHY malwaremakers use hostnames more) +& firewalls layer on a filtering driver - hosts = the IP stack itself (more efficient/less moving parts & messagepassing) in tcpip.sys (firewalls aren't).
* You're failing @ every turn, badly!
APK
P.S.=> You really, Really, REALLY need to take some computer science (specifically DDK level coding used in firewalls via filtering drivers) & understand HOW firewalls truly work - it's all in my reply now above & yes, it's LESS EFFICIENT due to "Bolting on 'MoAr'" but I said they compliment one another excellently (along w/ a filtering protective DNS like OpenDNS)... apk
Hostnames = easily moved to another bad hosting provider by malware & it changes IP address (rendering firewalls & why malwaremakers use hostnames more) +& firewalls layer on a filtering driver - hosts = the IP stack itself (more efficient/less moving parts & messagepassing) in tcpip.sys (firewalls aren't).
* You're failing @ every turn, badly!
APK
P.S.=> You really, Really, REALLY need to take some computer science (specifically DDK level coding used in firewalls via filtering drivers) & understand HOW firewalls truly work - it's all in my reply now above & yes, it's LESS EFFICIENT due to "Bolting on 'MoAr'" but I said they compliment one another excellently (along w/ a filtering protective DNS like OpenDNS)... apk
See my subject: Prevention is the best medicine (& what you can't touch can't hurt you) via APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-5 32/64-bit https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=%22APK+Hosts+File+Engine%22+and+%22start64%22&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1/
Ads & malware rob speed, security & privacy
Hosts add speed (hardcodes/adblocks), security (bad sites/poisoned dns), reliability (dns down), & anonymity (dns requestlogs/trackers) natively
Less power/cpu/ram + IO use vs. DNS/routers/addons/antivirus + less security bugs/complexity
* Using what you already NATIVELY have, built into your TCP/IP stack running in FASTER kernelmode!
(Per my subject - THIS IS WHY vs. FIREWALLS https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53749719/
APK
P.S. - Safe https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/e01211ca36aa02e923f20adee0a3c4f5d5187dc65bdf1c997b3da3c2b0745425/analysis/1433430542/
I don't run any antivirus software on my PC. I still have to kill firefox a couple times a day because it's "not responding" for five minutes or more doing some kind of background task across the 3 gigs of ram it's consuming.
You're not wrong about Antivirus software (your reasons are precisely why I don't have any installed) but that's no excuse for Firefox's poor code quality.
Moderating "-1, Disagree" is simple censorship. Have the guts to post your opinion.
Every now and then (once every handful of years) I'll get a nasty virus because I download... questionable files at times.
I keep 3rd party AV on hand for these circumstances where I'll boot into safe mode and kill all the nasties.
Malwarebytes and Kaspersky have done good by me.
I run software and hardware firewalls, plus AV, Ad and script blocking. Makes my web experience much better.
See subject: Most used OS Windows firewall doesn't & you're less efficient (layered drivers firewalls use hosts don't need) "Bolting on 'MoAr'" vs. using what you have already.
QUESTION:
Do Linux/MacOS X don't have app level firewalls natively (like zonealarm) or ones that use hostnames like hosts do (minus layering on more drivers inefficiently)?
I know Windows' firewall uses IP addresses & it's MOST used (creates most jobs too that way).
IF SO on *NIX variants?
Nice to see firewall makers have to TRY duplicate what hosts does for you natively already (but you're STILL STUCK USING LAYERED ON DRIVERS creating more moving parts for breakdown & exploit + inefficiency)... yes, INFERIOR INEFFICIENT IMITATION = sincerest form of flattery!
APK
P.S.=> Again - hosts = part of the IP stack & NATIVE to your system (zonealarm app level firewalls, aren't & again, have to 'Bolt on MOAR' creating inefficiency using non-native stuff creating room for exploit/breakdown too)... apk
1.) IP addresses are easy to sinkhole stop by ICANN etc.
2.) Most malwaremakers/botnet herders using hostnames vs. IP address
3.) Windows (most used OS) firewall uses IP addresses (fails vs. most malware)
4.) Firewalls use LAYERED FILTERING DRIVERS hosts don't (& are more efficient as part of the IP stack itself)
5.) You're "Bolting on 'MoAr'" vs. using what's natively available in Windows (most used OS) & iirc, MacOS X + Linux too (unless they imitated hosts, sincerest form of flattery using hostnames)
6.) You introduce MORE moving parts complexity, added messagepassing, & more room for breakdown when an OS doesn't already have a firewall that blocks hostnames (I knows windows doesn't, last I knew? *NIX variants didn't natively either)
7.) Hosts = EASILY migrateable by script from domain admin users across all endpoints (not a "SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE" too)
APK
P.S.=> Do MacOS X/Linux NATIVELY have firewalls that block hostnames? Inefficient imitation of hosts if so... apk
As a Corporate PC technician I have learned that it is not infections from random sites that I worry much about (we use Proof Point for Spam and our network ports are locked down almost to the point of insanity) but it’s our user base that keep me up at night. As someone so eloquently put it, if users click on stupid things, they need stupid software to baby sit them. The number of times that I’ve been able to save (and by save I mean not re-image a machine and wipe all of the data) a user’s computer due to having enterprise level AV software installed is pretty high. Think I’ve only had to wipe 3 or 4 computers in the 13 years I’ve been doing this, with a user population of around 300 computers, I’d say that’s pretty good. The stupid stuff I’ve had to install from there systems that would have burned then is upsetting however. I’ve seen users with 8 toolbars, 10 Coupon, all sorts of shareware add-ins to “Make Outlook run faster”. Programs that load untold amounts of malware on their systems. And they wonder why their machines run slow. Most of this –ahem— software gets around the admin controls we have in place that protect windows, and would probably do further damage if it were not for the AV suite installed which has actively blocked many Trojans and other backdoor software from installing. Do we have the best suite? No idea. But I don’t have to wipe that many machines and just uninstall the stupid crap our user base installs. That’s a plus for me. I worked in a mom and pop shop that did not have AV for a short time. I did not have the same success rate I tell you, A person is smart. A user, is an idiot.
And we should trust the developer of a browser whose development team didn't see the problem with their memory model chewing up resources until Firefox ground to halt and took an ivory tower position of something along the lines of "you shouldn't have your browser open that long." I know quite a few people who switched to Chrome over that nonsense, myself included. Why should we trust your recommendations again?
We'll make great pets
I haven't used Antivirus Software in about 15 years, and I use a PC or similar device for 12+ hours a day. I haven't caused a single infection - the only time a computer of mine was infected was when someone snuck onto my computer to try a practical joke, loaded a porn website to set as my homepage *but did it in Internet Explorer* back in the days of IE6
Of course, I know what to click and what not to click. I know to examine dialogue boxes and have critical thinking skills to evaluate the website I am downloading from, or viewing. My parents, maybe they need Antivirus... but then maybe not, as they get infected approximately annually despite actually having it anyway. So OP is probably right.
See subject: It's inefficiency & 1 firewall is a SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE (hosts aren't migrated to endpoints by domain wide admins).
Hosts do LOCAL RAM ON THE PC ITSELF fastest possible DNS lookup (it's right there cached in RAM).
* Plus, face facts: IF your firewall uses hostnames? It's INEFFICIENT IMITATION (hosts always did, no layered driver inefficiency more moving parts complexity & room for exploit + breakdown).
APK
I've never needed one.
Then again, I run Linux.
See my subject: ROUTER SECURITY & INEFFICIENCY EXAMPLES IN ROUTERS GALORE (proof by the 100's in inefficiency + security problems) https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9995967&cid=53488785/
Do home routers/modems have enough ram to store MILLIONS of hostnames to block? No.
THEY COST MORE MONEY!!!
They eat more power too!
ALSO A SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE (for sure, see link above).
* More inefficiency & waste vs. using what you natively already have...
Keep "moving the goalposts" boys from addons, to DNS, to routers, to firewalls - you can't win on efficiency by bolting on 'MoAr'!
APK
P.S.=> I.E. - Each IS all less efficient "Bolt on 'MoAr'" bs that eats more resources + introduces, in power/cpu/RAM & other forms of I/O vs. using what you have natively in hosts as part of the IP stack itself in FASTER more cpu serviced kernelmode non-layered driver inefficiency of firewalls even (most native ones don't block by hostname but less used in threats ip addresses, rendering them useless)... apk
See my subject: Hosts = easily migrated to endpoints NOT a single point of fail like other 'solutions' (DNS, routers, firewalls etc.)!
WRONG: admin runs it centrally & script migrates to endpoints!
* I love how you "network menials" "move goalposts"!
Addons -> DNS -> Antivirus -> ROUTERS (full of security issues galore + moving parts complexity & room for exploit breakdown single points of fail)-> Firewalls (layered driver inefficient, most only work on IP lesser used threat nullified by most malware & single point of fail).
* Hosts do MORE natively in FAST kernelmode (vs. slower usemode MOST of those use too) vs. ANY single other solution for less NATIVELY no bolt on 'MoAr' bs.
APK
P.S.=> CLUE: My program LOCKS HOSTS vs. alteration (& refreshes on updates clean) above WFP/SFP windows already has (can't be broken in usermode, I've tried)... apk
Please stop spamming us with your crapware.
Dear Slashdot:
Please add 'APK' to your lameness filter. It is more offensive than the ones you already have. Eh, so you may as well throw in 'Trump' to keep the crybabies out. The war is over.
1.) IP addresses = easy to sinkhole
2.) It's why malwaremakers use hostnames vs. IP address
3.) Windows (most used) firewall uses IP address (fails vs. most malware)
4.) Firewalls use LAYERED DRIVERS, hosts don't (more efficient as part of the IP stack itself)
5.) You "Bolt on 'MoAr'" vs. what's natively in Windows (most used OS) in hosts & MacOS X/Linux (unless they imitate hosts sincerest form of flattery using hostnames in firewalls).
6.) You introduce MORE moving parts complexity, added messagepassing & more room for breakdown when an OS doesn't already have a firewall blocking hostnames (Windows doesn't & last I knew? *NIX variants didn't natively either) & slower usermode parts!
7.) Hosts = EASILY migrateable by script from domain admin users across all endpoints (not "SINGLE POINT OF FAIL") - run my prog centrally & script migrate (or run it locally on each PC/server).
APK
P.S.=> QUESTION U AVOID: Do MacOS X/Linux NATIVELY have firewalls that block hostnames?
First and foremost, for the people who say they don't need Antivirus and they don't get infected using "common sense", you need to get off of your high horse. Why? It's simple, just because you don't notice any symptoms does NOT mean you don't get infected. I'm strictly talking to Windows users here, and I'm not gonna get into the whole Mac gets no virus BS
Look, no one likes AV if we can help it, no matter how lightweight, it'll take up system resources and can be annoying/intrusive. But we need it, it's a necessary evil, especially for regular users, even if it's not as effective as we'd like.
I will also ask even power users to install it too unless it truly causes great inconveniences or they don't care about data loss. Why? Because how else would you know you got a virus trojan malware etc. unless the symptoms are super obvious and in your face? Are we assuming that all malicious programs will exhibit obvious symptoms and can easily be detected by using "common sense"? At the very least, with AV programs we can be aware of problems as they occur which "common sense" won't.
If I have to use a rough analogy, imagine AV software to be your door lock. Just because a crapton of people can unlock most locks out there, are you going to keep your doors unlocked knowing there's a lot of danger lurking in the neighbourhood? I know I certainly wouldn't.
Lastly, this is based on one FORMER developer from mother of all gods - Mozilla's opinion, let's not shit ourselves here.
If I come off as rude, then so be it. Because the truth is, I'm sick and tired of people not only giving, but taunting with bad advice just because they are ignorant or simply don't give a shit. You people do more harm than good, and you absolutely need to stop doing that.
Dude, the entire concept of a hosts file came from *nix in the first place. Windows didn't invent it.
Second, doing this on the border firewall is so much easier, and covers all the devices that aren't running Windows (it's no longer the most popular OS by quite a margin). It conserves resources on the endpoint devices and is much, much easier to manage at scale - whether a home LAN or a large enterprise network.
Lastly, if the clients are configured to use a web proxy then the hosts file gets ignored for all HTTP requests forwaded to the proxy as the name lookups are done by the proxy itself, rendering your app pointless.
But with your lack of real-world experience I wouldn't expect you to understand. All this.
Oh and change the name too. 9.0++ SR-5 32/64-bit? Really? What does all that mean anyway? Why not just call it Hosts FIle Engine 9.0.1 or something more sane? As a sysadmin it's a nightmare to keep track of updates when folks use insane versioning names in their products. Just because MS do it, doesn't make it a good idea.
See subject & QUESTION U AVOID - Do MacOS X/Linux use hostnames in their native firewall? Windows doesn't (most used).
Hosts data output != WINDOWS ONLY (any OS using a std. BSD derived IP stack has hosts) hence domain admin runs my prog centrally & script migrates hosts to pcs NOT my prog on every box(No singlepoint fail or layered driver more moving parts inefficient - vs. hosts it's inefficient & more parts)!
* CLUE: Most folks @ home don't have networks or software central firewalls let alone one using hostnames, most use IP addresses.
(I made my FREE program for users as hosts are on their pc natively not bolt on more inefficiency full of SECURITY HOLES & ineffiencies as other solutions are)
My program LOCKS hosts vs. attack above WFP/SFP (nothing usermode burns it, I tried) + CLEAN refresh from pristine backup on next update too!
Local hosts lookup IS faster (from local ram, no network traversal query/feedback time)!
APK
P.S.=> Answer my question
Original poster here.
My post says "Except Microsoft's", right in the title. I think that's important. I believe that Microsoft's Defender stuff is probably less bad than the other major players and worth having enabled for average users. Unfortunately that's been left out of the Slashdot summary.
Unobtrusive ads
I'm told that ads wouldn't be obtrusive if unobtrusive ads brought in enough revenue to continue operations. Advertisers are willing to pay far more for obtrusive ads, and switching from obtrusive ads to unobtrusive ads might cause your favorite site to bring in so little revenue that it has to stop responding to HTTP requests.
and asking nicely for people to turn off the blocker
This sort of "begging" is reported to have anemic results.
The ads shouldn't [...] track me.
The only ads that can be proven not to track viewers are ads hosted by a site itself. And those have a far lower revenue per thousand impressions for two reasons. First, most advertisers don't know that a particular site exists in order to bid up prices for the site's inventory of ad space. Second, those that do know that a site exists prefer to advertise through a network with analytics powerful enough to filter out click fraud.
They usually don't give you a Windows CD anymore when you buy a PC/Laptop so I couldn't tell you how to install the Windows version you paid for when buying the computer on anything...
Microsoft makes iso images available. The vendor probably provided a key some where.
AV is just part of the reason that we use SEP. It also allows us to do things like control access to USB devices, lock down which processes can be ran, etc.
I agree that the traditional AV portions of the product have questionable utility.
Evolution: love it or leave it
its that if you catch something you will notice
its that the antivirus will not block it, or clean it, wether you noticed it or not
its that if you have something and havent noticed, neither will your antivirus, ior it will "catch" hundreds of false positives that are just the browser cookies or some stupid stuff like that
its also that for something that does nothing, it happens to make your computer slower
so its not that you dont need it, its that you dont WANT IT
Why do I need antivirus on the thing I use to start Steam? We mandate antivirus on our work computers, still hasn't stopped cryptolocker from encrypting stuff on network shares.
"There is NOTHING APK can do that my firewall doesn't already do" - by EvilSS ( 557649 ) on Friday January 27, 2017 @03:42PM (#53750967)
Firewalls do NOT have resolution capability - hosts do (like DNS but faster, especially vs. remote DNS - no network traversal).
APK
P.S.=> Thought I'd add that in vs. your "false bravado" too, lol... apk
"There is NOTHING APK can do that my firewall doesn't already do" - by EvilSS ( 557649 ) on Friday January 27, 2017 @03:42PM (#53750967)
Firewalls do NOT have resolution capability - hosts do (like DNS but faster, especially vs. remote DNS - no network traversal).
* That functions for BOTH speed (local resolution via reverse DNS verified hardcoded favorites where you spend most time online faster than remote DNS especially & local DNS) AND SECURITY (protection vs. Kaminsky redirect poisoning in DNS which 99.999% of ISP DNS are NOT PROOFED AGAINST).
* Hosts also don't add in layered drivers more moving parts inefficiencies (& most firewalls ONLY block IP addresses, not host names & HOSTS DEFINITELY DO (which are used in malware/botnets etc. by FAR more)).
APK
P.S.=> Look before you leap (Evil "BS" didn't) when you're trying to give me guff - I always eat you fools alive with your OWN big mouth stupidities... apk
On Windows not running as an administrator is more important than having AV, especially for users who will click and install anything, like kids, or those who do not know any better.
Beware of the Redittor who loans you a Sharpie.
Don't put words in my mouth I never said - Where'd I say hosts originate on Windows fuckbrain? I never did!
Show us WHERE I DID, you lying little FUCK!
By the way shithead: Privoxy works w/ hosts just fine (it's a proxy) but most users don't use proxies fuckbrain network menial!
LASTLY: You stupid little shit: Don't EVER insult me ala "my lack of real world experience" You pitiful motherfucker - minus coders like myself? You undereducated 'network' imbeciles = helpless shitheads who merely USE what guys like me MAKE for "the underducted unskilled likes of menials like you" merely USE fuckhead!
See below - you did more, earlier & better?
APK
P.S.=> I've been doing everything since 1994 PROFESSIONALLY from:
Techie
Network Admin
DBA
Programmer-Analyst
Software Engineer
Architecting both networks + software
MOST LIKELY before you were BORN being featured in trade shows like MS TechEd 2 yrs. in a ROW as a finalist there in its hardest category (SQL Server Performance Enhancement) with code of mine that ended up making the commercialware it was for perform 40% BETTER & bought out NOW SOLD COMMERCIALLY since 1996 successfully since + numerous times in publications to great acclaim - have you, big mouth FUCK that you are? No way... apk
See my subject: Prevention is the best medicine (& what you can't touch can't hurt you) via APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-5 32/64-bit https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=%22APK+Hosts+File+Engine%22+and+%22start64%22&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1/
Ads & malware rob speed, security & privacy
Hosts add speed (hardcodes/adblocks), security (bad sites/poisoned dns), reliability (dns down), & anonymity (dns requestlogs/trackers) natively
Less power/cpu/ram + IO use vs. DNS/routers/addons/antivirus + less security bugs/complexity
* Using what you already NATIVELY have, built into your TCP/IP stack running in FASTER kernelmode!
APK
P.S. - Safe https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/e01211ca36aa02e923f20adee0a3c4f5d5187dc65bdf1c997b3da3c2b0745425/analysis/1433430542/
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-5 32/64-bit https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=%22APK+Hosts+File+Engine%22+and+%22start64%22&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1/
Ads & malware rob speed, security & privacy
Hosts add speed (hardcodes/adblocks), security (bad sites/poisoned dns), reliability (dns down), & anonymity (dns requestlogs/trackers) natively
Less power/cpu/ram + IO use vs. DNS/routers/addons/antivirus + less security bugs/complexity
* Using what you already NATIVELY have, built into your TCP/IP stack running in FASTER kernelmode!
(Details as to HOW & WHY annihilated EvilSS here https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53750217/
APK
P.S. - Safe https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/e01211ca36aa02e923f20adee0a3c4f5d5187dc65bdf1c997b3da3c2b0745425/analysis/1433430542/ & Steven Burn of Malwarebytes' hpHosts verified its code + hosts & recommends it... apk
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-5 32/64-bit https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=%22APK+Hosts+File+Engine%22+and+%22start64%22&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1/
Ads & malware rob speed, security & privacy
Hosts add speed (hardcodes/adblocks), security (bad sites/poisoned dns), reliability (dns down), & anonymity (dns requestlogs/trackers) natively
Less power/cpu/ram + IO use vs. DNS/routers/addons/antivirus + less security bugs/complexity
* Using what you already NATIVELY have, built into your TCP/IP stack running in FASTER kernelmode!
(Details as to HOW & WHY annihilated EvilSS here https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53750217/
APK
P.S. - Safe https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/e01211ca36aa02e923f20adee0a3c4f5d5187dc65bdf1c997b3da3c2b0745425/analysis/1433430542/ & Steven Burn of Malwarebytes' hpHosts verified its code + hosts & recommends it... apk
See my subject: Prevention is the best medicine (& what you can't touch can't hurt you) via APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-5 32/64-bit https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=%22APK+Hosts+File+Engine%22+and+%22start64%22&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1/
Ads & malware rob speed, security & privacy
Hosts add speed (hardcodes/adblocks), security (bad sites/poisoned dns), reliability (dns down), & anonymity (dns requestlogs/trackers) natively
Less power/cpu/ram + IO use vs. DNS/routers/addons/antivirus + less security bugs/complexity
* Using what you already NATIVELY have, built into your TCP/IP stack running in FASTER kernelmode!
(Details as to HOW & WHY annihilated EvilSS here https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53750217/
APK
P.S. - Safe https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/e01211ca36aa02e923f20adee0a3c4f5d5187dc65bdf1c997b3da3c2b0745425/analysis/1433430542/
So if I get a randsomware virus... Robert O'Callahan will pay the ransom inj bitcoins and give me a copy of firefox for free? Otherwise he only puffed a pink cloud of nonsense as usual.
Hosts files block adservers serving adscripts (Noscript inefficiently parses page tags) before NoScript even BEGINS to operate in SLOWER usermode (clotting up browsers w/ messagepassing, ram, CPU & I/O overheads).
* Best hosts file creator there is, bar-none?
b>APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-5 32/64-bit https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53752825/ details in that link!
APK
P.S.=> Enjoy & it's 100% FREE + completely safe (code verified by malwarebytes' folks @ hpHosts who both HOST & RECOMMEND IT in Mr. Steven Burn one of their TOP employees)... apk
See subject: I never said hosts originate on windows. You're illiterate trying to cover your error, you trolling unidentifiable "ne'er-do-well"
What I referred to IF YOU COULD READ idiot, was EvilBS' firewall claims to use hostnames (imitating hosts, as most ALL firewalls use IP (some like zonealarm are application level though, but all use drivers layered on more moving parts (fact) & are not 'native' to OS if they are app level OR hostname using imitating hosts).
LEARN TO READ scumbag.
APK
P.S.=> I see you can't prove you wrote a decent gui software I wrote that malwarebytes' hpHosts both hosts + recommends let alone a commercially sold successful software I did that went to Microsoft TechEd as a finalist with being published many times... apk
See my subject? Stupid suggestion from you on routers FULL of security issues I shot you to pieces on https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53750621/
* It's not hard to show you're a stupid fool who suggests things most folks can't afford (routers that can contain as much blocking data that hosts can) that are FULL OF SECURITY PROBLEMS!
APK
P.S.=> You're a do nothing zero "ne'er-do-well" with a FAKE NAME online for your FAKE LIFE (& you know it)... apk
See my subject: That's TRULY an "OpenSORES" problem & I'll post dozens of /. users that disagree w/ you on my GUI + more in my posts after this (just to annihilate you more, lol)!
* It's not MY fault you can't design a GUI program yourself from scratch as I have that the likes of highly esteemed Malwarebytes hosts & recommends, lol!
(Looks to ME like you're just another MENIAL user techie WANNABE that criticizes others but can't do the job himself - easy to be a critic, not so easy to be the chef like myself - that is, unless YOU built that firewall of yours from SCRATCH/by hand, yourself (or IF you did, did you COPY OTHERS WORK calling it your own like most "opensores" wannabes do, playing smart?)
APK
P.S.=> Lastly on your "FIREWALL DNS LOOKUP? LOL, last I knew of, FIREWALLS DO NOT DO DNS LOOKUP or RESOLUTION (but hosts do) - it truly was a pleasure SHOWING YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT quoted here blowhard https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53752509/ lol... apk
his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant
his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg
I've never tried to belittle (APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon
take a look at the APK hosts file engine by SuperKendall
APK is kinda right. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo
APK is totally right on this count. Adblock Plus on Firefox mobile is a dog on older, or lower end, phones. A hostfile based adblocker makes for a much better experience by chihowa
I like your host file system by Karmashock
I find your hosts file admirable by vel-ex-tech
* My code's liked + recommended & hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!
APK
P.S.=> More coming... apk
I support APK's stand on the hosts file Trax3001BBS
Your premise that hostfiles are a good way to deal with advertising and malvertising is quite valid JazzLad
No complaints from me, I like APK... Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free aaaaaaargh!
APK's monolithic hosts file is looking pretty good Culture20
APK... Awesome to see he's still spreading the good word Molochi
ABP is insufficient as a solid hosts file does everything that APK reminds us about fast turtle
APK isn't wrong cfalcon
APK, I know people give you a lot of shit regarding hosts, but please don't ever stop nasredin
You need APK's hosts file Teun
APK solution STILL relevant Thud457
you're right about hosts files drinkypoo
APK
P.S.=> They're in addition to https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53753293/ many more earlier + 1,000's worldwide - there's no arguing w/ success (vs. YOUR FAIL https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53752509/ ... apk
See subject & your MAJOR FUCKUP vs. myself here (firewalls don't DO name resolution dummy) https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53752509/ & thru my other posts (as no MATTER WHAT YOU SAY, firewalls do NOT do as much, see link, & they DO LAYER ON "MoAr" inefficiently in layered filtering drivers - hosts don't - they're part of the IP stack itself + MOST firewalls don't do hostnames - they do IP addresses (which most malware nullifies by using hostnames)).
* :)
R o T f L m A o @ U!
APK
P.S.=> You FuCkEd Up badly in that link "OpenSORES" blowhard, lol... apk
They are falling into a misconception that everyone uses their computer like they do. An experienced developer will have common sense, won't use administrator account, will update their OS and won't do crazy things like typing "Watch movies free" to Google and click the very first site appearing.
Most of the developers won't even change their wallpaper.
So, you don't need AV if you can manage a gigantic code like Mozilla but it doesn't mean everyone is the same.
Ms antivirus is a joke regarding detection rates.
And most people need antivirus, because brain 1.0 is not internet ready, yet.
I'm a CS student who works at the IT help desk on weekends for grad students. The school I work at uses a captive portal and DNS filtering to maintain a blacklist of disallowed sites (porn, warez, etc.), which causes a lot of students to come to us unable to connect to the internet because whatever dumb firewall they're using takes over DNS resolution and breaks their connection to the portal because it's not what they expected.
Lately I have seen a lot of Kaspersky "Internet Security" with a firewall that is seemingly impossible to disable (the UI option to do so simply does nothing). I am often forced to get people on the network by spoofing their MAC address on my debian netbook and having them register using that.
See my subject: Take your own advice you UNIDENTIFIABLE little coward bitch. It's not my fault you're a jealous waste of life!
* Just another "chattering 'wannabe'" trying to 'play smart' on /. like he might know something about the art & science of computing when the truth is, you're far too unintelligent to be capable of feats I do with ease (& you know it).
APK
P.S.=> LOL, little fucks like YOU make me fucking LAUGH (@ waste of life undereducated unskilled SWINE like you)... apk
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-5 32/64-bit https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=%22APK+Hosts+File+Engine%22+and+%22start64%22&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1/
Ads & malware rob speed, security & privacy
Hosts add speed (hardcodes/adblocks), security (bad sites/poisoned dns), reliability (dns down), & anonymity (dns requestlogs/trackers) natively
Less power/cpu/ram + IO use vs. DNS/routers/addons/antivirus + less security bugs/complexity
* Using what you already NATIVELY have, built into your TCP/IP stack running in FASTER kernelmode!
APK
P.S. - Safe https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/e01211ca36aa02e923f20adee0a3c4f5d5187dc65bdf1c997b3da3c2b0745425/analysis/1433430542/
See my subject: I'm on topic w/ a better solution that does more for less vs. any other single "so-called 'solution'", you're not & imo, just jealous you wasted your life being an undereducated loser who isn't capable of creating things on his own as I have that are capable of doing all that!
* Above ALL else? I've obviously DESTROYED YOU PUBLICLY here before illustrating you know jack shit about computing so you 'stalk me' & harass me via your "courageous" (lol, not) UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts.
APK
P.S.=> Crapware eh? Well, my ware's hosted & recommended by the likes of malwarebytes' hpHosts - you're welcome to do better (but oh yea, that's right - a STOOGE talker like YOU isn't capable of something like that, are you? Obviously not, lol!)... apk
See my subject & as far as raymorris the wannabe? OK:
"I don't shoot my mouth off without knowing what I'm talking about" - by raymorris (2726007) on Thursday December 31, 2015 @09:29AM (#51215379)
Raymorris shoots his mouth off f'ing up in 2 security fuckups https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5351503&cid=47379233/ & https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5351503&cid=47374033/ + raymorris = scriptkiddie https://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8895203&cid=51726265/
&
Tell us how ONLY 'newer script kiddie tools' have stringlength built in (when PASCAL had it for ages - my fav tool) https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8472509&cid=51114383/ - raymorris = a BLUNDERING WANNABE!
APK
P.S.=> raymorris also likes to talk behind others' backs like the gossiping bitch TROLL he is https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9880997&cid=53312265/ well, here I am letting HIM TALK in those links, showing his lies & tech FAILS ... apk
See my subject: Prevention is the best medicine (& what you can't touch can't hurt you) via APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-5 32/64-bit https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=%22APK+Hosts+File+Engine%22+and+%22start64%22&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1/
Ads & malware rob speed, security & privacy
Hosts add speed (hardcodes/adblocks), security (bad sites/poisoned dns), reliability (dns down), & anonymity (dns requestlogs/trackers) natively
Less power/cpu/ram + IO use vs. DNS/routers/addons/antivirus + less security bugs/complexity
* Using what you already NATIVELY have, built into your TCP/IP stack running in FASTER kernelmode!
APK
P.S. - Safe https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/e01211ca36aa02e923f20adee0a3c4f5d5187dc65bdf1c997b3da3c2b0745425/analysis/1433430542/
See my subject: Prevention is the best medicine (& what you can't touch can't hurt you) via APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-5 32/64-bit https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=%22APK+Hosts+File+Engine%22+and+%22start64%22&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1/
Ads & malware rob speed, security & privacy
Hosts add speed (hardcodes/adblocks), security (bad sites/poisoned dns), reliability (dns down), & anonymity (dns requestlogs/trackers) natively
Less power/cpu/ram + IO use vs. DNS/routers/addons/antivirus + less security bugs/complexity
* Using what you already NATIVELY have, built into your TCP/IP stack running in FASTER kernelmode!
APK
P.S. - Safe https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/e01211ca36aa02e923f20adee0a3c4f5d5187dc65bdf1c997b3da3c2b0745425/analysis/1433430542/
you don't get to talk to me about security.
See my subject: Hosts aren't! Prevention = best medicine (& what can't touch you can't hurt you) via APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-5 32/64-bit https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=%22APK+Hosts+File+Engine%22+and+%22start64%22&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1/
Ads & malware rob speed, security & privacy
Hosts add speed (hardcodes/adblocks), security (bad sites/poisoned dns), reliability (dns down), & anonymity (dns requestlogs/trackers) natively
Less power/cpu/ram + IO use vs. DNS/routers/addons/antivirus + less security bugs/complexity
* Using what you already NATIVELY have, built into your TCP/IP stack running in FASTER kernelmode!
(Details as to WHY my subject line's true by the 100's, partial list only? See https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9995967&cid=53488785/
APK
P.S. - Safe https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/e01211ca36aa02e923f20adee0a3c4f5d5187dc65bdf1c997b3da3c2b0745425/analysis/1433430542/
UBlock can't do these as well as (or @ all) hosts do 4 speed, security, & reliability:
1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnet C&C's
3.) Protect vs. dyndns botnet C&C's
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnet C&C's
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam payloads
9.) Protect vs. phish payloads
10.) Protect vs. caps
11.) Get past dns blocks
12.) Keep off dns request logs
13.) Speed up 2 ways (adblocks/hardcodes)
14.) Work on anything webbound multiplatform.
15.) Ez data edit
16.) Block ads more efficiently in cpu/ram/I-O use
17.) UBlock now uses hosts (no DNS benefits vs. dns issues) - poor imitation = "sincerest form of flattery"
Hosts = native vs. illogically "Bolting on 'MoAr'" & not ClarityRay blockable like addons.
APK
P.S.=> Hosts (1st resolver) do MORE w/ less in fast kernelmode & before slow usermode addons
Hosts ~6mb vs. UBlock = 64MB -> http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte...
Success is subjective, and everybody has a different way of measuring it. I haven't written and published a GUI app, nor do intend to. It's not something I need to consider being successful, when I already have a good source of income, things I need to live and a happy family.
Nor do I care about TechEd, having long diversified myself outside of the Microsoft bubble. Power to you though.
It's fair to say the requirements for your 'successful' app are pretty damn niche - it looks too clunky for the average home user to understand, and those in the know (I.e. the average Slashdot reader) have better means on managing this stuff. Trying to advertise it here via comment spam is therefore a waste of your time, and mindlessly attacking and picking on individuals (most who appear a lot smarter than yourself) in the threads is very counter-productive. I'd recommend refining your content too; structure your sentences properly, use punctuation properly, tone down the profanity. You would appear much more professional and a lot less crazy.
If you want a bigger audience, calm down, lay off sites like this, then go buy some adwords that might hook the wannabe-PC-tech crowd instead. There's plenty of them out there and they would eat this app up.
poor imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
Flattery of whom? Mr. John Hosts, inventor of the hosts file? I'm pretty sure hosts was never intended for this type of security usage. I mean, vanilla hosts doesn't even allow wildcards and thus is often useless as any attacker can just bypass it using a rotating subdomain. (Though you can use dsnmasq instead.) Use it under the hood, sure, but it's clearly not sufficient.
Turn in your nerd card and get out.
By using a regular proxy?
And watch the hit rate decline over time as it falls back to the CONNECT verb when more and more sites switch to all HTTPS all the time.
I mean, as long as the public images, scripts, style sheets and other resources are served over HTTP
Serving the HTML over HTTPS and public resources over cleartext HTTP causes browsers to refuse to load the resources at all because of rules against mixed content. Serving the HTML as well over cleartext HTTP results in demotion of your site in Google and (as of recent Firefox versions) scary warnings on your login page's password field. Serving only those resources needed for the login page over HTTPS and the rest of the site over cleartext HTTP, as Slashdot did until a few months ago, results in vulnerability to Firesheep, a tool for copying session cookies of others on your network.
See my subject: & Ublock uses hosts (now, imitating my ware) but it's not a resolver & thus no DNS security bug protection either.
* Per my post you replied to? Ublock can't even begin to do all the things hosts does (especially @ DNS level)!
APK
P.S.=> On/Off for sites is ALL you need & despite no wildcards? Hosts STIILL eat only a FRACTION of what UBlock does in RAM, cpu usage + messagepassing overheads operating in SLOWER usermode (slowing browsers there up even more)... apk
See subject: Firewalls block ip addresses (& hostnames ALLEGEDLY in some firewall you noted w/ filter driver overhead in layered filtering drivers).
APK
P.S.=> If your 'firewall' you noted is doing name resolution, it's NOT a firewall... apk
See my subject: That's beat & moving goalpost bs. I spoke SOLELY software firewalls entire time (no denying it) & you never noted it's hardware. Deceitful.
Doesn't matter: Firewalls don't do name resolutions themselves. DNS does. Hosts does. Period!
See your HARDWARE you only NOW mention? STILL RUNS SOFTWARE & THE FIREWALL SOFTWARE ON IT DOES NOT DO NAME RESOLUTIONS - period!
APK
P.S.=> Witholding what you were using is bogus & yes, now it's 'moving goalposts' (still doesn't matter - firewalls do NOT do name resolution THEMSELVES. The software in a firewall is for blocking in/out communique NOT name resolution - you can set it to POINT to DNS for it, but DNS is doing it, not the firewall itself)... apk
Hardware costs "$" & power: The hardware runs Linux. firewall ware on it is = in/out communique NOT resolution (period) &again it has driver overheads TOO above the cost of the unit itself AND power to run it.
* Pretty bogus of you moving goalposts!
HOWEVER:
Again - it doesn't matter - you actually COMPOUNDED your issue I note in more overheads in layered drivers & MADE IT WORSE (yes, that Linux system uses a filtering driver above the IP stack on that hardware too increasing overheads)
APK
P.S.=> See above - You're arguing from ignorance of HOW the software on that dedicated hardware of yours works pal & that it costs MONEY, POWER, & DRIVER OVERHEADS above hosts which like my program is FREE & so is hosts (free especially on Linux which is the ONLY reason it's used on hardwares like smartphones OR routers etc. - keeps per unit cost down but STILL NOT FREE)... apk
See subject: Don't put words in my mouth I never said - You know I run hosts + software firewall, no scripting & OpenDNS (filtering DNS proofed vs. kaminsky redirect, 99.999% of ISP dns aren't) - I also run a NAT stateful inspecting hardware firewall too!
Earlier if you recall, almost first reply I gave you in fact which you can verify, SHOWS I say what I use (minus my stating hardware, I kept it pure software as you know) COMPLIMENT one another & I said it again on what I use above.
APK
P.S.=> Next part #2 coming, see subject (WTF!)... apk
From https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53757521/
I use "layered-security"/"defense-in-depth" using hosts/software firewalls/port filtering/OpenDNS (filters vs. threats & is kaminsky redirect proofed, 99.999% of ISP DNS aren't).
CIS Tool for security for *NIX + Windows took fixes from me
&
Security guides I did 11 yrs ago (started in 1997) got me PAID https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22/ The "Lord works in mysterious ways" & SO DOES "yours truly" (lol, the "LORD OF HOSTS" so to speak).
&
I did them for free for end users (networking pros etc. don't need help, end user does)
P.S..=> No matter HOW you slice it? You ARE using more POWER, adding COST of the hardware device!
(Linux or not keeping it cheaper (which is why it's used, it's not 'superior', it cheaper, on phones/routers) + FILTERING DRIVER overheads which ANY firewall on ANY platform uses above the IP stack, including YOUR HARDWARE running Linux)
You say I spoke from IGNORANCE?
You're ignorant of HOW YOUR DEVICE ACTUALLY WORKS in software it runs (hardware = "software solidified" in proms etc.)
It needs software or its just parts that 'light up' & guys like ME, coders, create it (networkers like you only USE what guys like me make)
See subject: Now you PAYfor it publicly EATING YOUR WORDS on a quote from you calling me ware malware etc. libeling me:
"for your probably malware infested closed source crap ware" - by EvilSS ( 557649 ) on Sunday January 29, 2017 @12:54AM (#53757443)
57++ Antivirus SAY IT'S SAFE https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/e01211ca36aa02e923f20adee0a3c4f5d5187dc65bdf1c997b3da3c2b0745425/analysis/1433430542/
It's also codebase verified by Malwarebytes' S. Burn "I've seen the code & it's safe" http://forum.hosts-file.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4290/
+ the highly ESTEEMED folks from Malwarebytes HOST & RECOMMEND my ware - can YOU say the same?
* ... & in case you didn't notice? MANY /.'ers like & use my ware:
https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53753293/
https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53753333/
Nope... you're just a NETWORKING MENIAL who doesn't understand HOW his hardware works proof's here https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53757277/
(I.E./E.G. - Running Linux & firewallware there uses a filtering driver there, more overhead + cost of the hardware & power it uses COMPOUNDS the driver overhead even MORE)
That's you 'networking menials' to a tee - "Bolting on 'MoAr' because you can't create wares yourselves like I can, lol!) only problem is?
I've "been there/done that" in what YOU do long before you did I wager (Atlanta Olympics 1996 for BellSouth setting the Olympics up network-wise for them) & to be a DECENT coder? You have to have been a techie, network admin, DBA & yes, security guru, first.
LASTLY, SO MUCH FOR "OPENSORES" CODE per Google's HUGE mistake https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53753277/
APK
P.S.=> Calling me names only gave away I dusted your ass boy... you let me see you SWEAT & you should after the BEATING you just took for flapping your cocksucker, lol! apk
Trying a "loaded question" move goalposts like 'hardware firewall' you kept hidden & then moved goalposts as I spoke software only https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53757277/
U spent money on hardware, power + driver overheads firewall hardware has HOSTS DON'T + are free like my ware you insulted users here like/use (malwarebytes too) & its Linux firewallware DOESN'T DO RESOLUTION itself (no firewall does by itself) - dns it points @ does!
* YES - It's doable & straight from Apple (my nephew runs iOS nightlies, sharp kid outta RIT 4th yr. & already running that):
SSH socket connect to "God Mode" rooted iPhone (not for consumers) - works like DROID Android Debugging Bridge PULL to import hosts & MacOS X/iOS? Definitely have hosts (BSD derived).
APK
P.S.=> iOS = Intentionally LIMITED like I show U R A LIMITED networking menial libeling me & FAILING here https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53757739/
MS AV Products work? Some of you are sniffing some seriously flawed MS propaganda.
Case in point. Consumer product retail parts company. Three stations at the front counter running (ugh!) Windows 7 HP. All up to date.
Two got nailed with ransomware. Nasty little creature. Stations booted up and brought up the 'Pay or Else' screen.
Mad dash to replace the two infected stations. Which wasted my time and was created by a situation where MS's AV FAILED.
I took the infected boat anchors and found the offending program. Never did determine exactly where it came from but then I'd already
spent too much time recovering from a situation that should not have been allowed to occur in the first place.
But then the geek factor kicked in and I wanted to see why this didn't get caught.
Rebuilt both with WIn7HP, and made sure all patches, software and MS security programs (sic) were up to date.
Added a bunch of docs and picts to represent a normal set. Imaged them at that point.
Introduced the ransomware and bam, it nailed the system. Not a peep out of the builtin MS crap.
Re-imaged, then tried Avast Free, Sophos Home, and my own copy of Kaspersky separately on three runs.
All three caught it.
Best served on small businesses and home users. Unless of course you're into extra work and effort.
An ounce of prevention for a performance hit is worth the trade off in face of lost productive time.
Then there is the genreal User's machine, most likely a Grandparent's or such that has a ton of pictures and documents and has never been backed up properly.
How exactly do those of you who recommend against using an AV product recover from that? Just tell the User 'tough sh*t'?
_D.
2x you failed https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53757739/ & https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53757907 vs. me a 'child' who's done things beyond a 18++ yr. career in the art & science below, not mere 'talk' like you!
A small PARTIAL ONLY list is what I'll post in my NEXT post ( due to whipslash'd lameness filter length ) & we can "compare notes" after, ok talker/failer?
* I'll give you the opportunity to BACKUP YOUR BS BIGMOUTH... fairly (you need help after the 2 links above, lol)
APK
P.S.=> Cut me down w/ "registered 'luser'" FAKENAME for your FAKE LIES OF A LIFE & success in this field but I don't just talk (after busting you up, lol)... apk
Small partial only sample of personal favorites (vs. you're hotair, fairly):
Windows NT Magazine April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" pg 61
(For SuperSpeed.com PAID CONTRACT (wrote parts of SuperCache 40% performance boost) & SuperDisk finalist @ MS Tech Ed 2x in a row 2000-2002 HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement)
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-5 32/64-bit is hosted & RECOMMENDED by Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...
WINDOWS MAGAZINE 1997 "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue pg 210 #1 entry
PC-WELT FEB 1998 pg 84
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 pg 92 MUST HAVE WARES
PC-WELT FEB 1999 - pg 83
CHIP Magazine 7/99 - pg 100
GERMAN PC BOOK Data Becker "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000
HOT SHAREWARE #46 issue pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain) 2001
Paid for article @ PCPitstop in 2008 http://pcpitstop.com/news/winn...
UltraDefrag64 Process Priority Control credited by lead dev -> http://ultradefrag.sourceforge... or here http://sourceforge.net/tracker...
APK
P.S.=> You've done MORE & BETTER blowhard? Prove it...
See my subject: You were better than "EvilBS" after I burnt him 2x trying to "browbeat" me now & illogically ad hominem attacking me so he gets this too https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53760365/
* FAIRLY GIVING HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE GOOD ON HIS HOTAIR BLOWHARD MERE 'words/talk'...
APK
P.S.=> I completely FUCKING DUSTED HIS BLOWHARD ASS TWICE & if you see the post parent to the link above? Know WHY he's reacting to POORLY vs. it via these 2 links where I crushed his WEAK ASS, lol on hardware firewalls overheads (cost of unit, firewalls even in hardware have layered filtering driver overheads, & his moving goalposts to hardware (failed as it has software), & power usage HOSTS have nowhere NEAR those overheads on) https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53757739/ & on his other "moving goalposts" LOADED question on IPhone + hosts migration (like ADB on droids, it IS doable & how) https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53757907/ apk
See subject: Now you PAYfor it publicly EATING YOUR WORDS on a quote from you calling me ware malware etc. libeling me:
"for your probably malware infested closed source crap ware" - by EvilSS ( 557649 ) on Sunday January 29, 2017 @12:54AM (#53757443)
57++ Antivirus SAY IT'S SAFE
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/e01211ca36aa02e923f20adee0a3c4f5d5187dc65bdf1c997b3da3c2b0745425/analysis/1433430542/
It's also codebase verified by Malwarebytes' S. Burn "I've seen the code & it's safe" http://forum.hosts-file.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4290/
+ the highly ESTEEMED folks from Malwarebytes HOST & RECOMMEND my ware - can YOU say the same?
* ... & in case you didn't notice? MANY /.'ers like & use my ware:
https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53753293/
https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53753333/
Nope... you're just a NETWORKING MENIAL who doesn't understand HOW his hardware works proof's here https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53757277/
(I.E./E.G. - Running Linux & firewallware there uses a filtering driver there, more overhead + cost of the hardware & power it uses COMPOUNDS the driver overhead even MORE)
That's you 'networking menials' to a tee - "Bolting on 'MoAr' because you can't create wares yourselves like I can, lol!) only problem is?
I've "been there/done that" in what YOU do long before you did I wager (Atlanta Olympics 1996 for BellSouth setting the Olympics up network-wise for them) & to be a DECENT coder? You have to have been a techie, network admin, DBA & yes, security guru, first.
LASTLY, SO MUCH FOR "OPENSORES" CODE per Google's HUGE mistake https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53753277/ [slashdot.org]
APK
P.S.=> Calling me names only gave away I dusted your ass boy... you let me see you SWEAT & you should after the BEATING you just took for flapping your cocksucker, lol! apk
Trying a "loaded question" move goalposts like 'hardware firewall' you kept hidden & then moved goalposts as I spoke software only https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53757277/
U spent money on hardware, power + driver overheads firewall hardware has HOSTS DON'T + are free like my ware you insulted users here like/use (malwarebytes too) & its Linux firewallware DOESN'T DO RESOLUTION itself (no firewall does by itself) - dns it points @ does!
* YES - It's doable & straight from Apple (my nephew runs iOS nightlies, sharp kid outta RIT 4th yr. & already running that):
SSH socket connect to "God Mode" rooted iPhone (not for consumers) - works like DROID Android Debugging Bridge PULL to import hosts & MacOS X/iOS? Definitely have hosts (BSD derived).
APK
P.S.=> iOS = Intentionally LIMITED like I show U R A LIMITED networking menial libeling me & FAILING here https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53757739/
Small partial only sample of personal favorites (vs. your alleged 1986 hotair, fairly):
Windows NT Magazine April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" pg 61
(For SuperSpeed.com PAID CONTRACT (wrote parts of SuperCache 40% performance boost) & SuperDisk finalist @ MS Tech Ed 2x in a row 2000-2002 HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement)
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-5 32/64-bit is hosted & RECOMMENDED by Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download/
WINDOWS MAGAZINE 1997 "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue pg 210 #1 entry
PC-WELT FEB 1998 pg 84
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 pg 92 MUST HAVE WARES
PC-WELT FEB 1999 - pg 83
CHIP Magazine 7/99 - pg 100
GERMAN PC BOOK Data Becker "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000
HOT SHAREWARE #46 issue pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain) 2001
Paid for article @ PCPitstop in 2008 http://pcpitstop.com/news/winners.asp/
UltraDefrag64 Process Priority Control credited by lead dev -> http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/handbook/Credits.html/ or here http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2993462&group_id=199532&atid=969873/
APK
P.S.=> You say you did MORE & BETTER blowhard? Prove it!
"I sold my first software project in 1986 child." - by EvilBS ( 557649 ) on Sunday January 29, 2017 @04:20AM (#53758213)
See subject imbecile & PROVE IT: You're ez to outwi w/ your lies & bullshit you can't back quoted above BLOWHARD... lol!
* What's the matter, bigshot? Can't backup your bullshit?? Nope... just a lot of "TALK" from behind a FAKENAME online in yourself.
APK
P.S.=> You're MAKING me have to say this (as I always DO vs. blowhard windbag FAKE NAME for FAKE LIE LIVES like yours):
THIS? This was "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is vs. windbags that can't back up their cocksuckers like you 3x /https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53760591 + https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53760653/ & https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53760683/ no doubt about it, lol... apk
"sold my 1st software project in 1986 child." - by EvilBS (557649) on Sunday January 29, 2017 @04:20AM
See subject (career in Fortune 100/500 - 40 enterprise class 1 million++ line systems) & PROVE IT!
You're ez to outwit w/ your lies & bs you can't back quoted above BLOWHARD!
"Run, Forrest - RUN!!!"
I did answer https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53757907/
Clue: I don't have to work (I do consulting though) - my money works for ME, not wageslave STUPID like you!
Newly booted systems = migrated by script by admins anytime & your single point of FAIL isn't "yours" windbag menial.
APK
P.S.=> Lately for me THIS is doing well (malwarebytes hosts & recommends it, /.'ers like & use it - HOW ABOUT YOU blowhard?) APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-5 32/64-bit https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=%22APK+Hosts+File+Engine%22+and+%22start64%22&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1/ ... apk
Answer my question: How does your "solution" protect an iphone on the local network? Mine protects it, yours cannot. Ditto for game consoles, smart TVs (preventing phone-home data reporting), or new machines just booted.
I browse on +1 so AC's need not respond, I won't see it.
Answer my question: How does your "solution" protect an iOS devices on the local network? Mine protects it, yours cannot. Ditto for game consoles, smart TVs (preventing phone-home data reporting), or new machines just booted.
I browse on +1 so AC's need not respond, I won't see it.
See subject: On BOTH the hardware & power expended but also on overpriced iOS based devices w/ layered driver overheads but you can't read: I did answer how hosts can be migrated to iOS (but it's not for everyone - it's LIMITED, like you are, lol).
* Newly booted devices was answered too - you must be thinking logonscripts are impossible to use (network admins can set those as well as chronjob or windows scheduled automated ones you know on pc endpoints)
APK
P.S.=> By the way, "YOUR" solution? Isn't YOURS @ all - you didn't create it (I did mine)... apk
See my subject & this link: No denying it /https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9995967&cid=53488785b & it's FAR from a complete list (even though it shows 100's of router security + inefficiency issues).
FACT: Routers etc. cost "$" in the equipment itself & also extra power you spend on them (no questions asked) but their BIGGEST FLAW is they are massively flawed + attacked/exploited!
(Depending on them ALONE = dead up STUPID!)
* LMAO - again, that's you "networking menials" (that can't program their OWN solutions because you're limited) to a tee - always "Bolting on 'MoAr'" stupidly when it really doesn't NEED doing!
"APK doesn't seem to know much about securing systems because if he did he would understand the defense in depth philosophy" - by Bob the Super Hamste ( 1152367 ) on Monday January 30, 2017 @08:44AM (#53765191)
WRONG! I don't understand "layered-security"/"defense-in-depth"? I wrote guides on it that even GOT ME PAID https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1/
EAT YOUR WORDS boy!
APK
P.S.=> You can use your off-topic illogical ad hominem attacks on me all day, attempting to attack ME - but you can't deny my point in my subject-line... apk
See my subject & this link: No denying it https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9995967&cid=53488785b/ & it's FAR from a complete list (even though it shows 100's of router security + inefficiency issues).
FACT: Routers etc. cost "$" in the equipment itself & also extra power you spend on them (no questions asked) but their BIGGEST FLAW is they are massively flawed + attacked/exploited!
Depending on routers/firewalls ALONE = dead up STUPID!
* LMAO - again, that's you "networking menials" (that can't program their OWN solutions because you're limited) to a tee - always "Bolting on 'MoAr'" stupidly when it really doesn't NEED doing!
"APK doesn't seem to know much about securing systems because if he did he would understand the defense in depth philosophy" - by Bob the Super Hamste ( 1152367 ) on Monday January 30, 2017 @08:44AM (#53765191)
WRONG - been doing it for DECADES! I wrote guides on it that even GOT ME PAID https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1/
EAT YOUR WORDS boy!
(If you could READ you'd also see I do use a NAT stateful packet inspecting firewall router here too in my replies to EvilBS)
APK
P.S.=> You can use your off-topic illogical ad hominem attacks on me all day, attempting to attack ME - but you can't deny my point in my subject-line... apk
See my subject & https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53753293/ + https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53753333/ & as far as GUI apps? They're what people REALLY use (or did you just make your post from Lynx?).
APK
P.S.=> I'm not 'advertising' anything - I merely state facts on how/when/where/why hosts work as both a valid effective security measure as well as valid effective performance speed gaining measure (anonymity to a degree as well as reliability enchancing too) - nobody can validly dispute that so you AC TRUE UNIDENTIFIABLE COWARDS take shots @ me w/ bs & lies since you can't attack my message & then I shoot you down w/ verifiable, undeniable concrete facts from reputable sources (so in the end? Your bs attacking me 1st starting trouble helps me & yes, only 4 types attack me. Advertisers, webmasters, inferior competitors & malware makers/botnet herders)... apk
his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant
his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg
I've never tried to belittle (APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon
take a look at the APK hosts file engine by SuperKendall
APK is kinda right. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo
APK is totally right on this count. Adblock Plus on Firefox mobile is a dog on older, or lower end, phones. A hostfile based adblocker makes for a much better experience by chihowa
I like your host file system by Karmashock
I find your hosts file admirable by vel-ex-tech
* My code's liked + recommended & hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!
Hosts in fast kernelmode = superior vs. crippled/security issue riddled methods (slow usermode) w/ what you natively have (vs illogically bolting on more doing less using more).
APK
P.S.=> More coming... apk
I support APK's stand on the hosts file by Trax3001BBS
Your premise that hostfiles are a good way to deal with advertising and malvertising is quite valid by JazzLad
No complaints from me, I like APK... Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free by aaaaaaargh!
APK's monolithic hosts file is looking pretty good by Culture20
APK... Awesome to see he's still spreading the good word by Molochi
ABP is insufficient as a solid hosts file does everything that APK reminds us about by fast turtle
APK isn't wrong by cfalcon
APK, I know people give you a lot of shit regarding hosts, but please don't ever stop by nasredin
You need APK's hosts file by Teun
APK solution STILL relevant by Thud457
you're right about hosts files by drinkypoo
APK
P.S.=> They're in addition to https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53773635/ many more earlier + 1,000's worldwide - there's no arguing w/ success... apk
Hahahahaha you're just "jealous jowie" the off topic "ne'er-do-well" troll and you know it https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53754339/
APK
P.S.=> I'm laughing @ you, "jealous jowie" - bigtime... apk
See my subject & you're wrong - it's ALL there chump https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53768675/ & where ARE your programs we can see/use that are GUI that others like?
Nowhere I can see!
E.G. - Such as I've posted from our own /. peers in this exchange a few times now
&
That the highly esteemed likes of Malwarebytes' hosts & recommends as they do MY work?
So, where are YOUR examples like that??
They're not...
Heck, I can also show you this too (show us you've done MORE, earlier & BETTER than this too) https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53760365/ ... & yes, I did that on the side while working in the Fortune 100/500 too ontop of it, simultaneously
You've done MORE, earlier & better YOURSELF? No, I see Open"SORES".
LOL, let me show you about "OpenSORES" plagiarism problems in Google Chrome Efast (look it up)... any FOOL can do software janitor work on OTHERS' work (like you do). It's quite ANOTHER feat to do it yourself as I have (& yes, that link shows open source I helped out in UltraDefrag too).
NO WONDER YOU USE A FAKE NAME ONLINE FOR YOUR FAKE LIFE, lol... I don't "hide" that way like YOU do, cartoon character!
APK
P.S.=> The HIGHLY esteemed CIS Tool I used in my guides for users ALSO took fixes from me (I was correct on them is why, 2x)... apk
See my subject software janitor (who didn't write those yourself where I have): What's the cost of the router & does it consume more power? Yes.
But, let's see YOU just ANSWER THAT.
APK
P.S.=> In the end, it doesn't matter between my last post & the fact DEPENDING ON ROUTERS ALONE IS A FOOL'S GAME due to security issues galore https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53774943/ & as far as Malwarebytes + CIS Tool BOTH either featuring AND RECOMMENDING my work (not yours) & accepting fixes from me respectively (both highly esteemed)? YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT & easy to shoot down for your fucking lies whimp... apk
From almostALLAdsBlock https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53748633/ (doesn't work bribed not to & doesn't do as much as hosts + EATS MORE) https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53748731/
Software firewalls then moving goalposts deceitfully to hardware avoiding my question on std. MacOS X & Linux using hostsnames in their firewalls (lol).
To ROUTERS costing money for unit + more POWER https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53757907/
Hardware routers use firewallware that has LAYERED FILTERING DRIVER OVERHEAD & CAN'T DO NAME RESOLUTION ITSELF dns does. Hosts do too, faster & safely locally)
&
For what? THIS (FAR from complete list of router security & inefficiency issues) https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9995967&cid=53488785/
Now non-networked? /.ers use my ware & DISAGREE w/ you by dozens, lol!
APK
P.S.=> I never said you don't need jailbreak Android/iOS - don't put words in my mouth... apk
his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant
his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg
I've never tried to belittle (APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon
take a look at the APK hosts file engine by SuperKendall
APK is kinda right. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo
APK is totally right on this count. Adblock Plus on Firefox mobile is a dog on older, or lower end, phones. A hostfile based adblocker makes for a much better experience by chihowa
I like your host file system by Karmashock
I find your hosts file admirable by vel-ex-tech
* My code's also recommended & hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!
APK
P.S.=>
"Your solution is a giant fail" - EvilSS (557649) on Tuesday January 31, 2017
See above (more coming)... apk
I support APK's stand on the hosts file by Trax3001BBS
Your premise that hostfiles are a good way to deal with advertising and malvertising is quite valid by JazzLad
No complaints from me, I like APK... Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free by aaaaaaargh!
APK's monolithic hosts file is looking pretty good by Culture20
APK... Awesome to see he's still spreading the good word by Molochi
ABP is insufficient as a solid hosts file does everything that APK reminds us about by fast turtle
APK isn't wrong by cfalcon
APK, I know people give you a lot of shit regarding hosts, but please don't ever stop by nasredin
You need APK's hosts file by Teun
APK solution STILL relevant by Thud457
you're right about hosts files by drinkypoo
APK
P.S.=> In addition to https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53775597 earlier
"Your solution is a giant fail" - EvilSS (557649)
See subject & our peers quoted... apk
See subject & EAT YOUR libelous WORDS https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53757739/
Hardware routers = SECURITY ISSUES GALORE https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9995967&cid=53488785/
Most folks can't protect overpriced iOS (like a hardware firewall home users dont have RAM enough to store millions of hostnames on too) stuff (dumb again wasting "$" vs. droid).
(Depending on hardware alone = stupid)
Then you moved goalposts from "AlmostALLAdsBlocked" (bribed not to work fully by default) as hosts do FAR more for FAR less natively in faster kernelmode (vs. slower usermode).
So what you have to jailbreak? I never said you didn't have to moron!
* You care about my being endorsed by BOTH our /. peers & Malwarebytes (things you will NEVER ever manage yourself)... lol!
APK
P.S.=> U ARGUE FROM IGNORANCE on how a 'firewall' hardware works - clue: Firewallware DOESN'T DO NAME RESOLUTION (neither do addons) - dns & HOSTS, do... apk
See my subject: In your ARGUING from IGNORANCE how your Linux router really works - Hardware firewallware = filtering layered driver overhead & use software to work. Firewallware also != DNS name resolution (hosts & dns do that). Rest of what I wrote totals you, with ease https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53776309/
* You FAIL "Bolting on 'MoAr'" in hardware that costs "$" to buy + power to run it & all the above & using "AlmostALLAdsBlocked" too!
APK
P.S.=> You said there's NOTHING you can't do hosts can? BS! No firewallware does dns resolution itself but hosts do MORE vs. what they do for less (from 1 SINGLE PART natively in fast kernelmode)... apk
See my subject: AlmostALLAdsBlocked NOT blocking all ads by default & w/ router security issues - no questions asked.
You forget - I do use a NAT stateful packet inspecting firewall (can't protect MILLIONS of entries for blocking hosts do on hostnames (most used by malware makers)).
* I can post Aryeh Goretsky of ESET/NOD32, Steve Gibson, Oliver Day of SYMANTEC, O'Reilly, Brock Wilders (security pro) & others ontop of Mr. Burn from Malwarebytes stating hosts = good layered security too?
APK
P.S.=> ME "moving goalposts"? I point out what hosts do software/hardware firewalls can't do (std. 'oem' MacOS X + Linux software ones block IP like Windows right? You never answered - still layered driver overheads too)
Hardware ones use software (firewall != resolver minus DNS + do have filtering layered drivers overhead, hosts don't)
&
Most certainly what AlmostALLAdsBlocked can't vs. hosts (using more too by far)... apk
See subject: Shouldn't shoot your cocksucker off - It's above to EvilSS & in my security guide on using NAT stateful packet inspecting firewall here (with many other things including hosts).
* I just do NOT depend on them alone (which again, YOU STUPIDLY SHOT OFF YOUR COCKSUCKER ON & HAD TO EAT YOUR WORDS on too, lol https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53768675/)
APK
P.S.=> What I did in the 90's I demonstrated & it's MORE THAN YOU CAN by far, proveably OR easily so - so try "cut me down" all you like? It's facts YOU especially can't prove OR prove you did more of... apk
See subject: Hardcoded favorite 50 hostnames @ TOP of hosts BLOCKING DNS redirect flaws! They're where I spend most time online (every does this, even w/ TV channels).
(Fastest load & parse to ram from file & faster Open/Read/Close cycle too programmatically)
They BLOCK kaminsky flaw redirect security issues DNS have which also speed you up resolving from local ram in kernelmode (in my case no usermode @ all using the diskcaching subsystem to cache hosts):
* :)
APK
P.S.=> Not just 1, but 50 - Enough for you? BLOCKING threats @ DNS level blocking redirect poisoning (Each is verified by my program daily) & also speeding you up as noted above (lightening DNS load too - bonus)... apk
See subject: Hardcoded favorite 50 hostnames @ TOP of hosts BLOCKING DNS redirect flaws! They're where I spend most time online (every does this, even w/ TV channels).
(Fastest load & parse to ram from file & faster Open/Read/Close cycle too programmatically)
They BLOCK kaminsky flaw redirect security issues DNS have which also speed you up resolving from local ram in kernelmode (in my case no usermode @ all using the diskcaching subsystem to cache hosts):
* :)
See here https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53777631/ you'll NEVER get the best of me w/ inefficient "Bolt on 'MoAr' in AlmostALLAdsBlocked (doesn't work by default) or routers for overhead galore in power, cost of router, & layered driver inefficiency hosts doesn't have.
APK
P.S.=> Not just 1, but 50 - Enough for you? BLOCKING threats @ DNS level blocking redirect poisoning (Each is verified by my program daily) & also speeding you up as noted above (lightening DNS load too - bonus)... apk
See subject on what std. MacOS X, Linux & Windows firewallware OR your tomatoware doesn't do https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53777839/ in bypassing DNS via hardcoded favs sites resolution! It blocks Kaminsky DNS redirect flaw poisonings & locally resolve in kernelmode FAR faster using hosts natively
But FASTER by far vs. remote dns & also local DNS on a LAN/WAN - no network traversal & NO filtering driver overhead layer + no power cost routers have OR security issues (or cost of physical router too).
My home router can't block 4 million entries my hosts has & your ROUTER eats RAM too from MY program data? Imitation = sincerest form of flattery.
APK
P.S.=> You run risks like MAD in routers security flaws & do incur power + unit cost of router & filtering driver overheads too. Your plugins eat more & don't WORK (almostalladsblocked by default LETS ADS IN fool!) - I posted reputable data on it you can't deny... apk
"your probably malware infested closed source crap ware" - EvilSS
Funny YOU used my ware IF its malware as you said (blew you away on that here) https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53757739/ :
"I took them from your own INI file" - EvilSS
Typical "OpenSORES" thievery stealing my data/using my ware & your set's smaller by far! That's only current data (~5-17mb iirc)!
"NOTHING APK can do my firewall doesn't" EvilSS
WRONG: Hosts do DNS resolves speeding you up via hardcoded favorites (firewallware CAN'T DO IT) which protect you vs. kaminsky redirect poisoning & ALSO DNSChangers (in routers + OS IP stack)!
I bypass cdn & go DIRECT to site via hardcodes! Hosts block any adserver source (except site itself).
APK
P.S.=> Minus filtering driver overhead firewallware & no extra costs (hardware/increased power cost).... apk
"All those loaded, and still over 87% RAM free" by EvilSS
See subject: I have 4,139,400++ blocked entries of known bad sites - You HAVE maybe (as it varies daily on new data intake) 670,000 tops.
~7 times less.
Only ~16% of what I have here (built up since 1997).
You've eaten up 23% already thief (flattering you use my stuff though, lol).
Guess what?
That # grows daily too (removals = far smaller on stale ones)
* YOU CAN'T DO AS MANY IN YOUR ROUTER AS I CAN IN HOSTS W/OUT EXHAUSTING YOUR RAM!
What has enough maybe?
CISCO grade enterprise class routers (maybe). Check the cost of those, new (since you brought up 'new routers') you LOSE! Again.
APK
P.S.=> & your firewall can't do 50 hardcodes (can be as large as you want/morr) for speed resolving locally faster vs. DNS, especially remote dns & even LAN dns (no network traversal) & security blocking DNSchangers in both routers + OS IP stack settings + DNS redirect poisons of DNS server)... apk
You really are a TOTAL bungler like "EvilBS" & here is why https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53779741/
Fool... you do eat more power, can't block DNSChangers/redirectors (routers & OS IP stack side), can't do hardcoded favorites speed + security, & CO$T MORE (period) + a typical router can store as much as hosts do vs. threats to block them shown above (you LOSE, fool) minus spending on a COSTLY router with enough RAM to do so.
* Unlike your bs words you had to eat (me not using layered security stupid when I do)? I use a router but I do NOT depend on them solely (or AlmostALLAdsBlocked bs).
APK
P.S.=> You really made me laugh - lots of "talk" on "what you've done" with NO PROOF (like your bullshitter kind always is) where I provide a FRACTION of what I could that did great in the past AND currently (you've got zero, except hot fucking air blowhard with a FAKE NAME for your FAKE LIE of a life OpenSORES plagiarist janitor)... apk
The data grows & I assumed it (13% data, 10% OS): 100%-87% free = 13% left (do the math) BUT the data grows 5-10k records a DAY the past 2-3 yrs. now (I know, I gather it) you'd run dry soon!
(Try run an OS with only that much free & less all the time, see what happens, lol...)
* Coming back HOW many DAYS later, if not into a week++ thinking I wouldn't see this, for the "last word"?
APK
P.S.=> DNS protections DO matter here: You said I couldn't find even 1 thing hosts can do your hardware firewall can't & I FOUND SEVERAL in abilities & downsides in cost inefficiencies too!
1.) DNS stuff hosts does BY ITSELF (speed & security vs. DNS security issues (tons))
2.) No filtering driver laden more moving parts firewalls have hosts don't!
3.) The FACT you eat more POWER (higher bills too)
4.) You have cost of router hardware too
5.) No firewallware does dns stuff itself (your hardware firewall DOES use firewall software, no questions asked))... apk
See subject: What you use in adblock doesn't do the 1 job it had & lets ads in + my ware's = safe https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53757739/ & you had to EAT YOUR WORDS after you libeled me that way!
* There's also 5 points in favor of hosts I pointed out in my other reply that put you away too (after you said "there's nothing I can't do w/ my router hosts can" = PURE BS proven here too https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53799705/ )
Well, I do KNOW that I get /.'s images RIGHT off /.'s server so so much for your bs on CDNs. I bypass them where I need to easily via hosts hardcodes.
APK
P.S.=> You had the NERVE to call me "no knowledge"? LMAO - the day you can show us YOU can create a BETTER program yourself (& not steal MY data sources too as you did, lol)? Then talk but you really SHOULDN'T TALK with your MOUTH FULL as you EAT YOUR WORDS as shown in that 1st link above & change your diet (it's NOT good nutrition, lol)... apk
"You don't even bother with basic security" by EvilSS
See my subject: You need to see about how FAR I went over basic security in my code (it's virus proof) https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10168471&cid=53779911/, literally!
I.E.-> There's NO WAY it will run if a virus attaches to its tail trying to alter jump tables! It won't run if it detects change by 1 byte even!
Even raymorris (he's a coder w/ a Linux patch, not that I think it's big shit but he does have proof unlike you) was impressed by it (& he gives me shit all the time admitting he trolls me).
(& yes, my code's PROVEN SAFE by tons of sources (some of whom I even proved OUTRIGHT wrong in 10 of them) https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53757739/ w/ 1 of the BEST in malwarebytes folks both HOSTING & RECOMMENDING IT - you can show you have done that? NO!)
APK
P.S.=> You're ARGUING from ignorance again, lol & again you have to EAT YOUR WORDS... apk
"router lookups go against the local block list FIRST before checking external DNS" - by EvilBS
Hosts don't JUST do blocking of say malware + botnet C&C, they also do hardcodes where you spend MOST TIME ONLINE are faster than remote OR even local DNS (no network traversal - local RAM speed) & resolved hosts hardcodes avoid DNS redirect security issues & DNSChangers in routers + OS IP stack settings too FOR SECURITY (also lightening DNS loads as a bonus)
READ: I avoid DNS ~96% of the time (Secured vs. redirect poisoning OpenDNS filtering does rest) & its SECURITY ISSUES for my fav hardcoded sites in hosts where I spend literally 95++% of my time online!
APK
P.S.=> Your firewall CAN'T DO DNS resolves itself in its software & has layered filter driver overhead hosts don't need + cost of router & power bills raised & hosts don't NEED DNS for resolution either... apk
"router lookups go against the local block list 1st before checking external DNS" EvilBS
I place favs (resolved from local RAM, no network traversal lag) @ TOP of hosts cached in RAM! Immediate fast as possible!
(& pure kernelmode diskcache-> IPStack w/out broken w/ large hosts slow usermode dnscache service, saving CPU/RAM & other I/O wasted on it)
U don't do hardcode resolution (secures u vs. DNS security issues (redirects & DNSChangers)) - Ur hardware firewall via layered filter driver hosts don't lag in can't DO it & u LOOK THRU THE ENTIRE BLOCKLIST 1st LAGGING U on resolution!
APK
P.S.=>
"You keep talking about speed, so prove it" EvilSS
Speed diff's above. I do remote DNS lookup sub 4% of time (per router & software firewall logs)! Other ~96% is @ hardcoded favs (also lighten DNS loads) - rest (sub 4%) = OpenDNS (patched vs. redirect & filters threats)
Local system RAM resolution in pure kernelmode IS faster vs. 1st going thru a HUGE blocklist then a remote network traversal after stupidly!
* Then, less "moving parts" links in the chain of operations involved does the rest (less complexity IS faster/less steps & shorter faster ones on MY end... by far!).
APK
P.S.=> An idiot would realize that - you're worse apparently! apk
Just that it makes my code what Sgt. TechCom DN38416 said "Microprocessor controlled: Fully armored, VERY tough" & it is - especially when compressed too (like ASRL, it makes it MUCH tougher on cracker/hackers/disassembler + viruses to infect & alter).
Now backup YOUR utter bs quoted below (cuz it IS that minus backing bloward):
"I sold my first software project in 1986 child" by EvilBS
Well, what was it & WHERE is it? By comparison I can show FAR more & actually back it up easily blowhard https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53760365/
APK
P.S.=> You FAIL simple challenges I put to you FAKE NAME online for your FAKE life, lol... apk
"NOTHING APK can do my firewall doesn't" EvilBS
See my subject & vs. facts you can't dare deny of hosts superiority https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53803453/ vs. your router firewall (which has numerous other inferiorities I point out here https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53799705/ )
"for your probably malware infested closed source crap ware" - by EvilBS ( 557649 ) on Sunday January 29, 2017 @12:54AM (#53757443)
vs. https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53757739/ EAT YOUR WORDS libelous blowhard!
"sold my 1st software project in 1986 child." - by EvilBS (557649) on Sunday January 29, 2017 @04:20AM
vs. https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53820509/ where is it? It's not.
"Also that bit about bypassing CDNs and going direct to site via hardcodes is bullshit. If the site assets are served off of the same CDN as their ads there is nothing you can do. THEY ARE THE SAME SERVERS. Do you even know how the internet works?" by EvilSS
WRONG: I get images DIRECT from /. servers vs. tracking CDN bs!
APK
P.S.=> Change ur diet - u're dying of malnutrition (eatin ur words)
See my subject: 1st internal LAN/WAN hop to a rotuer on network (central point of fail to take down hosts aren't).
Then thru a blocklist (slows you) for resolutions (firewallware you DO use w/ layered driver overheads can't, hosts/DNS do (& in hardware that raises cost buying the unit + higher power bills).
THEN SLOWUP MORE going for resolution to a remote server + awaiting roundtrip resolution!
(All overheads hosts do NOT have operating in faster kernelmode single part of IP stack from LOCAL SYSTEM RAM w/ favorites @ TOP of hosts for FASTEST possible resolution that proofs you vs. DNS issues like Kaminsky flaw redirect poisonings (99.999% of ISP != patched vs. it) & DNSChangers in router settings (router are LOADED w/ security flaws I only posted a FRACTION of by the 100's) or OS IP stack settings)
APK
P.S.=> It's slower no MATTER what & it varies (network congestion, DNS load (that hosts lighten too no less))... apk
See my subject (you demand of me, I gave it): Prove you wrote what you allegedly state! Anyone can talk (it's all you do).
APK
P.S.=> My work's (what anyone can see UNLIKE YOU, lol) as virus proof as it gets (it won't run if it changes detecting it even by 1 byte, telling you to reinstall it from a fresh copy (finding that in 320 total routines & stalling it (altering jne asm instructions) would take a TAILORED specific to my program virus to do (or a dedicated hacker/cracker/disassembler) + a LONG time in doing it & NO virus is byte in size attaching to an executable @ tail end for altering jump tables)... apk
See my subject: Can't you READ? I already stated it, specifically WHY you are slower (& inferior) here https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53828857/ & you don't deny it!
* You FAIL...
APK
P.S.=> Just like you FAIL here too, blowhard-> https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53834743/ anyone can TALK, talker (very few of us are DEMONSTRATABLE successful doers like myself https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53760365/ & that's only a small partial only FRACTION of what I can put out in full summation... apk
See my subject: You yourself don't deny hosts are faster than your router firewall @ resolution here https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53828395/
* That's all the proof I need in my "changing hearts & minds" via your agreement on it!
The logic of it is simple common-sense:
Less complexity & less steps (fewer & FASTER on my end using hosts for domainname resolution from LOCAL SYSTEM RAM via hardcoded favorites which also protects vs. DNS down, DNS redirect poisoning & DNSChanger malware too) shown here https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10172213&cid=53828857/
Every bit of speed gain helps.
APK
P.S.=> Prove you wrote what you say you allegedly did - I did SOME of what I did easily... apk