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Seagate Says 16TB Hard Drive To Hit Market Within 18 Months (techspot.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: If you haven't shopped around for hard drives in a while, you may be surprised at what's out there. The largest 3.5-inch desktop hard drives currently available from Seagate, for example, offer a whopping 10TB of capacity for less than $500. In the event that 10TB isn't quite enough storage and a multi-drive setup isn't ideal, you'll be happy to hear that Seagate over the next 18 months plans to ship 14TB and 16TB drives. A 12TB HDD based on helium technology is currently undergoing testing and according to CEO Stephen Luczo, initial feedback is positive. Most enthusiasts and even some PC manufacturers are now using solid state drives as their primary drive due to the fact that they're much faster and more power-efficient. What's more, because they have no moving parts, SSDs generate no noise and are much more durable.

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  1. Great! by TWX · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now I can lose even more data when a single disk crashes!

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    1. Re:Great! by sims+2 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      How long will it take to rebuild a raid array with discs that size? Even with only raid 1 I'd think the times would be horrendous.

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    2. Re:Great! by Solandri · · Score: 4, Informative

      The 10TB drives benchmark at around 240 MB/s on their outer track. Figure a 16 TB drive with 1.6x the areal density will be about 25% faster, or 300 MB/s. That's the speed of the outer track. The inner track is half that, or 150 MB/s. And the circumference is proportional to the radius, so the integral between these two speeds (taking into account more data being stored on outer tracks) yields an average speed 1/3 of the way from 300 to 150 MB/s, or 250 MB/s.

      So a straight sector-by-sector (sequential) copy of 16 TB drive to another 16 TB drive would take 16000 GB / 250 MB/s = 64000 seconds, or just under 18 hours.

  2. Re:And you still can't back it up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Buy 2

  3. Re:What are the use cases for these drives? by religionofpeas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    a 16TB drive means that there is more of your data to lose

    In most cases, if you can fill a 16 TB disk, that data isn't actually yours.

  4. Re:Still using by tuffy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Spinning drives are still the way to go for bulk storage because the cost-per-gigabyte remains far, far cheaper than SSD and will seemingly remain so for the near future.

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  5. Re:And you still can't back it up by religionofpeas · · Score: 5, Funny

    I just divide it into two equal partitions, and make copies of everything.

  6. Slightly off-topic: I want "WORM SSDs" for backup by davidwr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'd love to see someone come out with a cheap, trivial-to-use "WORM* USB stick" along with "plug and play" backup software.

    Such backups would be impervious to being over-written by ransomware. If using them became commonplace, it would cripple that industry.

    Such media could also be used for security systems or any other kind of data-logging system: Record everything to write-once media (along with a copy of recent data to a cached journal, so changing media doesn't cause interruptions).

    There is a good business case for this: It provides a nice "give away the flashlight, sell the batteries" profit center for vendors: People would need to replace the USB sticks when they filled up. The key is that it will have to be no more expensive than ordinary USB sticks of the same capacity.

    Before you mention "data retention/deletion policies" I'm envisioning this for home users and some types small businesses, not large businesses or those subject to government-driven data-deletion policies.

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    * By "WORM" I mean the actual hardware/firmware enforces the write-once aspect, not just a USB stick with an OS-level device driver that makes it "write once." This should actually be cheaper to manufacture than typical USB sticks since you would not need to provide "erase" circuitry nor would you need to have wear-leveling logic in the device's firmware.

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  7. Re:Still using by ShooterNeo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually, deal prices for HDDs have yet to drop below ~$30 a terrabyte. This is 2010 era pre-flood/pre-consolidation prices. I haven't seen a price for a new drive from a quality brand dip below that.

    While I've seen SSDs hit $200/terrabyte. So the price delta is 6-10x at this point. It's rapidly shrinking.

  8. Re:What are the use cases for these drives? by spire3661 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Oh fuck off. With 360 video becoming a thing, we are going to need 16k cameras to capture reality in decent fidelity. My personal raw 4k footage already vastly exceeds the 2 TB of backup media content i maintain.

    I store my physical CDs as straight up .wavs at this point. My home surveillance package could fill a 16 TB quickly, even quicker if i upgrade to higher resolution cameras.....You lack imagination.

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  9. Re:Now it's helium-filled drives. by garryknight · · Score: 5, Funny

    My friends speak quite highly of helium.

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