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Trump's Executive Order Eliminates Privacy Act Protections For Foreigners (whitehouse.gov)

Long-time Slashdot reader Kernel Kurtz writes : January 28 is supposed to be Data Privacy Day, so it seems fitting in an alternative sort of way that U.S. President Trump just signed an executive order that eliminates Privacy Act protections for foreigners. As a non-American, I find it curious that the person who says he wants to bring jobs to America is simply confirming the post-Snowden belief that America is not a safe place to do business.
The Privacy Act has been in place since 1974. But now section 14 of Trump's "Enhancing Public Safety" executive order directs federal agencies to "ensure that their privacy policies exclude persons who are not United States citizens or lawful permanent residents from the protections of the Privacy Act regarding personally identifiable information" to the extent consistent with applicable law.

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  1. Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who wants to visit a broken down piece of crap US run by a stupid cunt like Trump. Happy to stay in civillsation.

    1. Re: Meh by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 5, Informative

      Neither place is broken down, but people in the EU certainly shouldn't throw stones from glass houses. The EU has for several years now been putting MANY self-described fascists into its parliament, and very recently, participating in it in an official manner:

      http://www.euractiv.com/sectio...

      As for Trump, I'm not sure what to make of him. I think his actions are boneheaded because they're going to create international retaliation against US IT firms, thus likely harming the domestic tech sector (Trump seems to like mercantilism as well, which will have a similar impact in other industries) however we can at least definitively say that Trump isn't a fascist, and anybody who says otherwise is either using hyperbole or has no idea what fascism is actually about. The most obvious difference is Trump still favors the individual (and individual liberties) whereas fascism is founded on the premise of a single national identity and almost no individual identity.

    2. Re: Meh by Dahamma · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, really, the only ones saying this are those trying to trivialize the horrible things he's already done.

      So, I wouldn't call you a doublenazi at all. Just a regular Nazi.

    3. Re: Meh by Stephan+Schulz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The most obvious difference is Trump still favors the individual (and individual liberties) whereas fascism is founded on the premise of a single national identity and almost no individual identity.

      Right. I nearly forgot his slogan. "Make American Individuals Great Again", right? And his wall is not separating Mexico from the US, but just Mexican individuals from US individuals. And he is creating not "American jobs", but jobs for individual Americans. Just as he is not applying a blanket ban on entry against people from certain nations, but carefully targets this to individuals.

      If he is not a full-blown facist, it's not for lack of inclination, it's because he does not know history well enough to understand the pattern.

      --

      Stephan

    4. Re: Meh by KeensMustard · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As for Trump, I'm not sure what to make of him. I think his actions are boneheaded because they're going to create international retaliation against US IT firms, thus likely harming the domestic tech sector

      Also, he is blowing up the very foundational concepts of the country that happen to be the things that made America powerful and great (like freedom of movement, freedom of speech, immigration etc) - he is fundamentally anti-American.

  2. Amazing how much he fucked up in just 10 days by Lisandro · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Seriously, ban legal, visa-holder residents for 90 days? Was he expecting that not to turn into a shitshow?

    This is what happens when you let Bannon write foreign policy.

  3. Trump seems to think Executive Orders... by SeaFox · · Score: 5, Insightful

    let him unilaterally decide whatever he wants.

    I don't remember the United States being a monarchy.
    At what point does Congress tell him he's not a king?

    1. Re:Trump seems to think Executive Orders... by grcumb · · Score: 5, Informative

      What happens if he doesn't adhere to the above? I get the feeling we're about to find out.

      It's already become clear that the White House explicitly overrode a DHS determination that contended the ban didn't apply to Green Card holders and other valid, vetted residents. The ACLU is reporting that some officials are not abiding by a number of stay order issued at courts in at least three locations.

      As a legal instrument, at least one scholar sees these particular orders as so incredibly flawed that they won't stand up to a sustained legal attack by the ACLU, CAIR and others.

      Most worrying though are the reports circulating that the drafting process bypassed the normal interdepartmental and legal review stages, and that DHS was only briefed on the content of the Executive Orders as they were being signed. This doesn't sound like an administration that's particularly worried about adhering to the letter of the law, or bringing a lot of people into the conversation. Not sure how that will stand up over time. Politics is often petty and vengeful, and the White House is already leaking like a sieve. It might be that their incompetence is what does them in. It may be that their unwillingness to share power will do it.

      My personal feeling is that neither one will stop them. I think people severely underestimate the lengths that this administration will go to to see this through. When Donald Trump promised the people of America that he would never back down, that he would do everything to advance the cause... I think he was speaking literally. When Steve Bannon says that we're at war with Islam, I think he believes it fervently. When Flynn and others portray their work as an existential fight, I think they're sincere in that.

      Left-leaning people and other opponents have mobilised quickly, but they're expecting the administration to react the way they would react. They think that public shaming, legal action and political activism will drive Donald Trump's administration back. I fear they're wrong. They will be seen as traitors and subversives, and they'll be treated accordingly, through formal and informal means. They don't realise that their resistance will ultimately have to be physical. They should be reading up on their Thoreau right about now....

      --
      Crumb's Corollary: Never bring a knife to a bun fight.
    2. Re:Trump seems to think Executive Orders... by ClickOnThis · · Score: 5, Informative

      let him unilaterally decide whatever he wants.

      Me thinks he learned this whole executive order thing from the previous holder of the office...

      As far as number of executive orders is concerned, Obama's record was far below average.

      --
      If it weren't for deadlines, nothing would be late.
  4. Re:Whats the issue? by Lisandro · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Are you serious? We're talking about legal residents who where prohibited, overnight, to enter the country without any other justification than a whim from Trump. No changed jobs, expired visas, incorrect documentation or lack of vetoes were part of the equation.

    The sad part is that the ban seems to be in place only because those 7 countries are mostly Muslim. None of them were involved on any kind of terrorist activity on US soil while other countries which were, notably Saudi Arabia and Turkey, are inexplicably left out of the executive action signed last Friday.

  5. Re:Do the right thing - stand against Trump's bigo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't want my country flushed down the toilet by uneducated retards like yourself.

    I work with Muslims, and even though they don't drink they are nice people and we are lucky to have them in the country, and I'm glad that they are my colleagues.

    Hopefully one day you will realize that Muslims are hard working Americans.

  6. Re:Do the right thing - stand against Trump's bigo by Lisandro · · Score: 5, Informative

    You forgot the words "bigoted", "misogynist", and "Hitler".

    Laugh it up, but Trump just ordered a weekly publication of crimes committed by illegal immigrants. Hitler did the same back in the 40's. Google up "The Criminal Jew".

  7. Re:Do the right thing - stand against Trump's bigo by gijoel · · Score: 5, Informative
    From the SMH

    Key phrase.

    In the 40 years to 2015, not a single American was killed on US soil by citizens from any of the seven countries targeted - Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen - according to research by the conservative-leaning Cato Institute.

    When the Cato Institute is calling you out on racist policies you know you're up shit creek.

  8. Re:Do the right thing - stand against Trump's bigo by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 5, Informative

    Umm, no.

    There are a lot of things we should fix in America first before we try to help everyone else.

    And how does allowing talented immigrants in not "fix" America? If we always did what Trump is doing, we'd be way behind the rest of the world technologically. Einstein was a refugee and so was Wernher von Braun (though he was a refugee for a much different reason.)

    Speak of Wernher von Braun; he got to skip the gallows because of his knowledge, and if we didn't keep him we would have lost the space race for sure -- something to keep in mind if we're going to kick out immigrants from potentially hostile foreign nations, as that could cost us our next space race.

  9. Re:Do the right thing - stand against Trump's bigo by arth1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    There are a lot of things we should fix in America first before we try to help everyone else.

    Give me your tired, your poor,

    your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

    the wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me.

    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

  10. Re:Do the right thing - stand against Trump's bigo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No idea? Ask Steve Job's dad?

  11. Re: Do the right thing - stand against Trump's big by Uberbah · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The only reason your family suffers is because they can't make it in a meritocracy.

    If the United States was a meritocracy, George W. Bush would be lucky to be the assistant manager of a Burger King, and you'd find 50% of investment bankers and dot com millionaires coming from a background of destitution because they studied hard in school.

  12. Re: Do the right thing - stand against Trump's big by PoopJuggler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You don't seem to realize that you people are reacting EXACTLY as Bin Laden wanted you to. He baited you and you fell for it. Look at what our nation has become since 9/11. Bin Laden wanted to destroy our freedom, and he has succeeded because Americans are predictable morons. He knew exactly what he was doing, how we would react, and what the result would be. And you let him.

  13. Re:Do the right thing - stand against Trump's bigo by Freischutz · · Score: 5, Informative

    From the SMH Key phrase.

    In the 40 years to 2015, not a single American was killed on US soil by citizens from any of the seven countries targeted - Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen - according to research by the conservative-leaning Cato Institute.

    When the Cato Institute is calling you out on racist policies you know you're up shit creek.

    The real irony here is that Trump and his alt-right claque are banning travellers from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen and justifying it by citing 911 but the countries that the 911 terrorists came from are not on the list, especially Saudi Arabia and the UEA and keep in mind these are the same countries whose citizens are covertly funding ISIS. On top of that Trump set up a series of shell companies to handle a hotel deal in Saudi Arabia and he did it after his bid for president: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-... at the same time as he was lambasting Clinton for taking donations from the Saudis.

    My favourite parts:

    "They [Saudis] buy apartments from me, ... They spend $40 million, $50 million. Am I supposed to dislike them? I like them very much.”

    "I would want to protect Saudi Arabia, ... But Saudi Arabia is going to have to help us economically. They were making, before the oil went down ... they were making $1 billion a day.”

    So rich countries that can make tribute payments to the Trump regime and whose citizens are financially benefitting Trumps companies are not destined for 'the list' even though these countries are financing terrorist organisations that attack and kill US citizens but others including some that are actually fighting ISIS in Syria make the list. I suppose Trump supporters have a hard time spelling 'hypocrisy'.