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Microsoft's Coming Windows 10 Cloud Release May Have Nothing To Do With the Cloud (zdnet.com)

Last week, several users spotted a mention of "Windows Cloud" in Windows 10 inside builds, speculating if it is a new version of Windows 10 which will stream from Azure. That's not the case, according to long-time Microsoft journalist Mary Jo Foley. From a report: Windows 10 Cloud is a simplifed version of Windows 10 that will be able to run only Unified Windows Platform (UWP) apps installed from the Windows Store, my contacts say. Think of it as being similar to the version of Windows 10 formerly known as Windows RT or the Windows 8.1 with Bing SKU. Windows 10 Cloud is meant to help Microsoft in its ongoing campaign to attempt to thwart Chromebooks with a simpler, safer, cheaper version of Windows 10, my contacts say, though Microsoft is unlikely to position it that way (publicly). Windows 10 Cloud seemingly has little or nothing to do with the cloud.

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  1. AKA Windows 10 Phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Still as unwanted and unnecessary as ever.

    1. Re: AKA Windows 10 Phone by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Funny

      But with a hint of luck it may one day be as popular as Palm OS is.

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    2. Re:AKA Windows 10 Phone by farrellj · · Score: 2

      Remember, "Cloud" simply means "Someone else's computers" that you have very little or no control over...much like Windows. :-)

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  2. I can see customers lining up now . . . by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Funny

    So Windows 10 Cloud is a merely a more crippled version of Windows 10 that only runs Windows Stores Apps (formerly known as Metro apps). Thankfully there are lots of useful apps from Windows Store . . . not. [sarcasm] How people must be camping out to get Windows 10 Cloud.[/sarcasm]

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    1. Re:I can see customers lining up now . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      While it is as bad as you make it sound, I think there is actually a big market for it and it could easily catch on.

      From an IT standpoint, a device that is super-locked down like a mobile phone is a fantastic thing and saves a load of time trying to lock them down with policy rules and with rolling out updates. Android and IOS have very few viruses compared to a desktop OS, and even when an infection vector shows up, it can be quickly a) patched on the OS with forced updates and b) scanned for and removed from the central app repository.

      There's really no reason 98% of office workers need anything capable of more than basic office software. An office full of glorified tablets barely even needs an IT staff to take care of them.

    2. Re:I can see customers lining up now . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      So Windows 10 Cloud is a merely a more crippled version of Windows 10 that only runs Windows Stores Apps (formerly known as Metro apps).

      With Windows 10 Cloud Release all software formerly referred to as "Windows Store Apps" will now be known as Cloud Release Apps (or CRApps for short).

  3. Windows 8.1 with Bing SKU by Palmateer · · Score: 2

    I have a tablet with "Windows 8.1 with Bing SKU". It runs legacy Win32 programs just fine. This does not appear to be anything like that except for being free/cheap to bundle.

  4. Service Client by Somebody+Is+Using+My · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Microsoft has long been interested in becoming a service provider. Initially the idea was to get paid monthly or annually for the use of their software (Windows, Office, etc.) but recently it seems that they are more interested in becoming a distributor of other publisher's software, where they offer a standardized platform (Windows OS, UWP apps, Azure) for developers to target and they get a cut of the proceeds. To ensure that they could provide the largest market, the platform the end-users use would be offered free (hence, Windows10). Windows 10 Cloud just seems to be a furtherment of this objective, albeit stripped down to lessen the cost to Microsoft (and possibly to ensure that end-users would /have/ to use the app-store if they want to get anything done by not providing any built-in applications).

  5. Why? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Want to compete with Chromebooks? Offer something with a key differentiator. Provide the server part of the software as well as the client. A Chromebook is fine if you completely trust Google with all of your data, making something where you have to completely trust Microsoft with your data isn't really a selling point. A lot of companies would love to have something like a Chromebook (centrally managed updates, remote self destruct, network storage working out of the box) but where they kept the server part in house. Microsoft could easily offer this (and even Azure hosting for the server part if you decided you did trust Microsoft, but wanted a bit more control than a fully managed solution), but instead they keep trying to compete with Google on Google's own terms. I don't really miss the predatory monopolistic Microsoft, but it's a bit sad that the company now seems to be run by people who don't understand basic business.

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  6. Re:Marketing Term by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

    Just like .NET back in the day. Took a few years for that one to go away.

  7. Think of it as "Windows Phone" by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 2

    >> Windows 10 that will be able to run only ...apps installed from the Windows Store. Think of it as being similar to the version of Windows 10 formerly known as Windows RT or the Windows 8.1 with Bing SKU.

    No, think of it as Windows Phone...without the phone.

    1. Re:Think of it as "Windows Phone" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You could also called it another version of Windows that can't do the only thing Windows does well: run Windows programs.

  8. Re:Wow.... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

    If you want to avoid being locked into a particular platform, store your data in transferrable formats. When my 2006 MacBook (black, of course) died in 2014, I was able to use my data on Windows because the format wasn't tied to a particular OS. If I ever get a new MacBook that's a worthy successor to my vintage MacBook, I'll be able to switch over in a heartbeat.

  9. Only apps can app apps! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is the appiest version of Appdows 10! Only LUDDITES would want the LUDDITE version of LUDDITE Windows 10!

    Apps!

  10. I've read this over and over... What is it? by gosand · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I read the summary 3 times... it makes no sense. I read the article... still no help.
    What is this? Is this supposed to be one of those announcements that creates buzz? If I, as a tech person, don't get it then how will anyone else?

    Several months ago I was in the Microsoft Store in a mall. I didn't even know they HAD Microsoft stores, and I hadn't been in a Mall for 10 years. So it was like a "things I despise" turducken. But my son's scout troop was in there doing a thing where they did game design. It was very lame, and he didn't have any fun. But while he was doing it, I sat and marveled at the Microsoft Store. They were really trying. Glitz and shiny things. Big screens, a VR! There were actual customers in there, which surprised me.

    But I overheard a young, hip salesperson trying to sell an Office subscription to a middle-aged man, and she was really trying to get him to understand how it worked. There was a physical package on the shelf, and he could buy the 3 month subscription, take it home and then go to the website and register. He wanted to know how he installed it, and she explained he didn't. He wasn't getting it (and quite honestly, I wasn't either) She kept steering him towards a 12 month subscription - to something he didn't understand how to use. It was comical. He eventually gave up and left.

    Good ol' Microsoft. They understand business - get in, sign the deals, make sure they are locked in. They understand oems - become the only thing they use, and make sure there are no other options. They understand acquisitions - buy things that are successful. They sure don't understand how to be relevant beyond those three things. And actually, I am not sure they really need to, but they keep trying.

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  11. Re:Wow.... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Consider the increasingly crappy user experience that is Windows, combined with the chances that Microsoft are almost certainly violating your privacy in every way they can think of.

    Don't use Metro, turn off Cortana.

  12. Re:Wow.... by SB5407 · · Score: 2

    Yup. Windows 10 home users aren't Microsoft's customers. OEMs and organizations with volume licensing agreements are. And unless that changes, MS will continue to treat home users badly by taking away features while also shoveling in advertisements on the Start menu, the taskbar, the notification panel, the lock/login screen, file/program associations, and home page and search page settings. With all that, MS should pay the manufacturer to install Windows instead of the other way around.