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LibreOffice 5.3 Released, Touted As 'One of the Most Feature-Rich Releases' Ever (omgubuntu.co.uk)

An anonymous reader shares a report: A new month, and a brand new version of open-source office suite LibreOffice is now available to download. And what a release it is. LibreOffice 5.3 introduces a number of key new features and continues work on improving the look and feel of the app across all major platforms. The Document Foundation describes LibreOffice 5.3 as "one of the most feature-rich releases in the history of the application." One of the headline features is called MUFFIN interface, a new toolbar design similar to the Microsoft Office Ribbon UI.

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  1. Not Another Office Clone! by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I didn't like using Word for large documents.

    I invested time and learned to use Latex. It has addressed my problems.

    Using an alternative office clone that doesn't also solve the problems of wysiwyg editors is not appealing.

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  2. Just like MS Word ... by perpenso · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Touted As 'One of the Most Feature-Rich Releases' Ever

    That is a very Microsoft like statement, "goodness" defined by feature count, and probably not a good path to go down.

  3. Feature-rich by arth1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In my experience, there's a direct correlation between "feature rich" and "buggy" for any new release.

    In other words, I'll presume it to be the most buggy release ever, until I hear otherwise.

  4. A ribbon clone? by rnturn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Was there serious demand for this? I suspect one of the features that many -- if not most -- users of LibreOffice enjoyed was that it didn't have the damned ribbon.

    I do more writing using Emacs/LaTeX than I do with any word processor but when I do need to create a Word-compatible document I do resort to Writer (and save as ".doc"). Thanks guys for bringing the Office ribbon hassles to Writer. I'm sure everyone's tickled pink to now be able to experience Word's ribbon headaches on Linux.

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    1. Re:A ribbon clone? by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Was there serious demand for this? I suspect one of the features that many -- if not most -- users of LibreOffice enjoyed was that it didn't have the damned ribbon.

      Yes, I rarely pay much attention to this, but on the few occasions I've checked in with LibreOffice's forums, I've definitely seen people complain about the lack of a ribbon OPTION. Like it or not, MS Office has had that interface for about a decade now, and many younger users have never used anything else.

      [Personally, I dislike the ribbon and have never gotten used to it. The only reason I am able to use MS Office at work in a reasonable fashion is because I have a Mac that still has actual menus. But I also know a lot of people who LIKE the ribbon, or at least grew to like it over the years.]

      Thanks guys for bringing the Office ribbon hassles to Writer. I'm sure everyone's tickled pink to now be able to experience Word's ribbon headaches on Linux.

      It's an OPTION. Apparently one of FOUR possible ways to organize your UI. If you don't want it, don't use it.

      But if LibreOffice actually still wants to sell itself as a competitor to MS Office, it needs to present a UI that isn't a shock to new users... many of whom have been using a "ribbon" in MS Office for years.

      You're correct that there was a big upsurge in use of LibreOffice (back then, OpenOffice) with the introduction of the ribbon interface. The issue is that users didn't want to learn a new interface, so OpenOffice was a good alternative. Now LibreOffice has to adapt to a new public, whose default experience is WITH the ribbon.

  5. Re:Multicore for spreadsheets..? by MightyYar · · Score: 4, Funny

    I could tell you a story that would make you weep, but in the interest of brevity let's just say that sometimes you are Igor and you just do what Dr. Frankenstein says.

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  6. Not really... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...One of the headline features is called MUFFIN interface, a new toolbar design similar to the Microsoft Office Ribbon UI....

    From TFA:

    ...We’ve told you about the MUFFIN interface project — MUFFIN stands for My User Friendly & Flexible Interface — a fair bit over the past few months, but if you haven’t heard of it it’s a new UI initiative that introduces 4 different layouts for LibreOffice applications, including a Microsoft Ribbon-esque tabbed UI and a slim, simplified, single panel toolbar....

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    It appears that the new interface will allow the user to use the ribbon-esque interface, a feature for the one or two people who actually like that UI. Muffin also provides other interfaces besides the weird ribbon-esque one, if you prefer a more intuitive UI.

  7. Re:Multicore for spreadsheets..? by serviscope_minor · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One disadvantage Calc has had compared to Excel, is it didn't support multicore when processing large spreadsheets. Has this been addressed yet..?

    They put HSA support in a while back which had the interesting side effect of meaning a puny AMD APU absolutely caned the top end i7 for spreadsheet calculation. One of those tasks where having near zero latency, memory coherent access to a huge array of floating point processors helps I guess.

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  8. Re:Multicore for spreadsheets..? by Camel+Pilot · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was reading a prospectus on Mathworks and was surprised that they listed Excel as the main Matlab competitor. It is simply horrifying what some people will do with Excel.

  9. Re: Multicore for spreadsheets..? by jonnyj · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's easy to sneer at big spreadsheets but, if you used them yourself, you'd realise that sometimes they really are the best tool for the job. If you were to try building flexible financial forecasts across a group of companies with fast-changing assumptions and a wide range of scenarios, you'd understand what I mean.

    But there are other legitimate reasons for big spreadsheets. We have complex financial models that are coded in C# for production use but which also exist in spreadsheets for the purposes of documentation and independent model validation. Some models would take an age to refresh on a single core machine, which would seriously undermine our ability to test the production systems. How else would you suggest that we test the end to end results coming out of C#?

  10. Ribbon...?!?!?! by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Informative
    Well, I was happy to read this, till I saw they fscked it up with the "ribbon" interface....

    This has been the worst thing MS has ever done to a GUI interface.....and now, Libre has copied the abomination.

    If they at least will give you a choice of that or menus, that would be cool, but if ribbon only, I guess I'll stick with the older versions....

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    1. Re:Ribbon...?!?!?! by mmell · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Yes, ribbon.

      Libre Office (previously: Star Office) was intended as a drop-in replacement for Microsoft Office. It was designed from the beginning to provide file-format compatibility as a free and open-source alternative to the costly (if powerful) suite of tools marketed by Microsoft.

      Making it function as identically as possible to MS-Office (ironically, even replicating bugs and security exploits) has been an intentional choice, not an accident. The presence of the ribbon in Libre Office assures that users accustomed to MS-Office will benefit from greater familiarity with the software. It'll facilitate migration from paid software to free software for users and organizations which may not want to expend the time, effort and expense to learn to use a different software package from the one they've become accustomed to.

    2. Re: Ribbon...?!?!?! by jonnyj · · Score: 4, Informative

      People still complain about this? Seriously, you get used to it, and its not nearly as horrible as slashtards keeping going on about. You going to make fun of systemd next? How about throwing around an M$ insult?

      I can understand the principles of the ribbon, but the implementation in MS Office is dreadful. The icons shown on the ribbon include dozens of things that no normal user ever uses, while things that are used every couple of minutes are hidden away in pop-up modal dialogue boxes. Most of the cell formatting functionality in Excel can't be accessed through the ribbon, for example, even though almost all users need to prettify or format their spreadsheets. Other crazy omissions include one-click icons to email the document, to export to pdf or to save the file to a new folder.

      The other problem with the ribbon is discoverability. I use Excel most days, but I regularly need to use google to help me find functionality that I use infrequently. The ribbon would be much more effective if it had a built-in search facility.

  11. Re:Multicore for spreadsheets..? by MightyYar · · Score: 5, Interesting

    OK...

    I got a call from a guy that I used to work with. He was an engineer who went for a lobotomy and came back as a manager at a company that I contract for. He knew that I was good at VBA and that I was contracting, and he had an idea to track and plan all engineering resource allocation in a half-billion dollar company through the use of Excel spreadsheets. Specifically, he envisioned a system where his master Excel sheet would burp out individual worksheets that each functional manager would fill out, then send back to him. He would then compile them all and run the analysis.

    I tried to talk him out of it - first of all, there are off the shelf resource planning apps. Nope. Well, I could make you an intranet site. Nope. Hey, you guys shell out for Sharepoint - I could put together something using that. Nope. Excel. "The managers all know how to use it." Uh-huh.

    So, I'm a contractor and I need the work... what the hell? I spend some time on it, and it was beautiful in its horrificness. Lots of delightful event-driven macros, changing things automatically as you copy or create sheets or change cell contents. It interfaced with Active Directory to get the list of engineering employees and contractors and their direct managers. I worked with HR to have the proper data fields filled in. It verified the integrity of the HR data in Active Directory. It even eventually lived on Sharepoint and did automaticy things when people opened and closed it. It churned through and made sure that everyone in the company was allocated to a project and that all the allocation numbers add up to 100%. It gave detailed analysis in pivot tables for pretty much anything that they wanted to see.

    Anyway, I created this abortion, fixed a few bugs upon initial use and then didn't think about it again. The guy got fired for obvious reasons. Maybe a year or so after that, I was again contracting for this company and one of the other managers calls me into his office. I get there and he starts asking me questions about some error message he got in "my macro". I look at what the hell he's talking about, and to my horror THEY ARE STILL USING THIS THING. I showed him how to fix it and eventually taught the SharePoint admin how the damned thing worked so that he could support it.

    So just think about that the next time you buy stock in a publicly traded company.

    Also, I hate VBA.

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  12. Re: Multicore for spreadsheets..? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    ProjectLibre is the leading open source alternative to Microsoft Project. It has been downloaded over 2,700,000 times in over 200 countries and has won InfoWorld "Best of Open Source" award. ProjectLibre is compatible with Microsoft Project 2003, 2007 and 2010 files. You can simply open them on Linux, Mac OS or Windows.

  13. Re: He's got a point. by cyber-vandal · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's the answer - throw more hardware at it. Heaven forbid devs should write efficient code.