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First Screenshots of Microsoft's Windows 10 Cloud OS Leak Online (zdnet.com)
The first alleged screenshots of Microsoft's Windows 10 Cloud operating system have leaked, courtesy of Windows Blog Italia. "The screenshots seem to show a coming version of the operating system that is locked down in a way similar to the way Microsoft locked down Windows RT and, before that the Windows 8.1 with Bing version of Windows," reports ZDNet. From the report: According to Windows Blog Italia, which said they've had a chance to test the current version of Windows 10 Cloud, the product can run Windows Store apps only. The site noted that Windows Store apps built using Microsoft's "Centennial" Desktop bridge, which enables developers to move their Win32 apps to the Windows Store, work on the version of Windows 10 Cloud to which they have access. UWP apps and Windows Store apps have not been synonymous terms. But the important point here is Windows Cloud will be locked down so as to prevent users from installing apps that are not in the Windows 10 Store, which can be seen as a plus from a security and manageability standpoint, but a minus given the less-than-robust collection of UWP/Store apps available for Windows 10. Microsoft is believed to be planning to position Windows 10 Cloud, at least in part, as an alternative to Chrome OS and Chromebooks.
And I'm not a millennial!
Modern app appers know that only apps can app apps, and Appdows 10 Cloud is the appiest apperating app! It only apps modern appy app apps, NOT LUDDITE software like LUDDITE Windows 10!
Apps!
Buy a Chromebook, install Wine, and now you've got a more useful computer than this.
This sort of reminds me of the old Windows Starter Editions, but my cynical self makes me wonder if this is a trial balloon for upcoming releases of Windows. It benefits Microsoft a lot, because they will own the entire ecosystem similar to Apple, but even Apple wouldn't have this much of a lock on the desktop.
Both Microsoft and Linux seem to try to constantly copy bad things from mobile. In Linux's case, it's mostly user interface, while in Windows, it's both user interface and an "app store". Why do everyone hate PCs so much nowadays? My guess is a combination of people's love for dumb machines and corporate's desire for control, but I am really not sure if this is the reason.
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There is a lot of speculation about the purpose of this implementation of Windows 10. Everyone says they have the answers and they are all inconsistent with one another. Now I will speculate. I do not think Microsoft is so stupid as to try and release this on the masses. Not even in developing countries. My take is that this is for the enterprise. Well, not precisely. If you have ever seen a Windows computer, or administrated them in a call center environment, they are locked down as fuck. That and similar happens to be a massive market. If you can remove much of the lock down administration required, that would be golden. I don't see this making sense in any other capacity. The truth is, Microsoft has been smartening up as of late, so....
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Windows Blog Italia is backed by Microsoft. The images were not leaked, they were released. Had it been a leak, the entire domain would now be offline.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
Namely the inability to do business without going through MS. Even if Steam can be distributed through Windows Store, can it still perform transactions without giving any money to MS, implement its own DRM scheme, and load 3rd party executables (i.e. the games downloaded)?
In addition, though Win32 apps can be distributed through the Windows Store, this does nothing for the many apps that are no longer in active development, including older versions of applications preferred by some users. Any apps that go against Windows Store policies won't be available, which includes many useful utilities, emulators... and I guess doing software development is out of the question here as well.
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Microsoft is like every other corporation on the planet. It wants slaves, not customers.
"Who is this for?"
It's for people who don't know enough about computers to know they are being abused.
It's more of Microsoft being EVIL. My opinion, shared by many others.
No fucking thanks. Do I even need to explain why?
by saying "Windows 8.1....With BING!!!!!111!!!!11ONE" instead of "Crippled piece of shit edition"
It looks like Windows 10. So Windows 10 Cloud Edition, looks like Windows 10 but gripes when you try to install a normal Windows program. There isn't anything really special here. I guess people would be curious what the desktop would look like. The fact that it looks like normal Windows 10 might be a bonus? This looks like they took Windows RT and changed RT to Cloud to sell it because everything with Cloud in the name sells.
Windows 7 was great. WTF happened ?
as far as i know windows still uses a multi lib so to speak.
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The very first screenshot is an error message about app compatibility. I don't know what I expected but somehow that sort of feels like what I would have expected.
Apparently, Microsoft wants to double down on failure.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
I honestly wonder who they expect to buy/use this.
0.0.0.0 www.google.com
0.0.0.0 google.com
0.0.0.0 bing.com
0.0.0.0 www.bing.com
sucks. no more search engine to play with
The platform and the OS will be so securely locked down, all the worms and viruses must be signed by a Microsoft approved malware certificate authority.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
It'll probably do very well.
You heard it here first.
No, that's a lie, you heard it every with Win Starter, and Win RT, and from every pundit. The Windows store has not gained ground, and forcing people to use it won't force app developers to write for it.
I agree, but only to the extent that you can keep others' paws off your Chromebook.
I was under the impression that installing Wine required putting the Chromebook in developer mode, and enabling developer mode caused the Chromebook's firmware to display an "OS verification is off" interstitial for 30 seconds every time the Chromebook is turned on. You can skip the interstitial by pressing Ctrl+D, but someone else who turns on your Chromebook doesn't know this, and the interstitial directs the user to press Space and then Enter to perform a factory reset, which wipes all data from the Chromebook. This causes the user to lose all data that hasn't been backed up yet as well as the use of Wine until the user can return home to reinstall it.
>putting each url on separate lines instead of grouping them logically by SLD
>inconsistent ordering of the bare versions and the www. versions
*triggered*
Microsoft's next-gen strategy is to slurp up as much usage data off of end user machines as possible, and to get businesses to invest as much money as possible in azure (so they can use the spare CPU\Memory), in order to build a massive data-set to feed their cognitive services AI's which to Microsoft, is the next-gen killer app. This explains their purchase of Linked-in; they want to understand organizations, why they hire, and what job roles are the most profitable for them to go after, and also market to them. If they were interested in training people to be great support staff, they'd make the infrastructure easy to understand and would've kept technet going. Instead even after all the lynda.com training in the world, you still won't know where all the intentional pitfalls, intentional bugs, and placebo buttons are placed. These are intentional actions, along with required updates, to force organizations into keeping a subscription to Microsoft; after-all, you never want the mafia to push a bad patch and take down your infrastructure for days, right? It's like paying off the mafia.
Meanwhile, if that strategy doesn't pan out, they are slowly locking down the windows platform as much as possible and placing as many barriers to entry and exit as possible on their current platform. From their perspective Apple and Google have built walled gardens which ensure users won't move to Microsoft's infrastructure any time soon, so they are always going to be losing out unless they do the same thing. Really, these app stores are literally "welding the car hood shut" on the hardware and need to be outlawed right along with paying money for in-game currencies (which is gambling at the root of it) and other such nonsense we've allowed silicon valley to distract itself with. Fact is, there's 30 years of standardization in the Personal Computer and lots of work went into that, for that to become a captive market to these bozo's is insane.
The problem with this strategy is very simply that regulations on infrastructure are only going to get more restrictive and require tighter security and better compliance as systems admins and programmers age and the industry matures; you will literally have compliance meetings where the old sales pitches will be met with "not this shit again, get out.". Windows 10 is not, and never will be, HIPPA, SARBOX, or PCI Compliant, and is in general bad for ISO 27001\2 compliance because it doesn't provide anything up and over Windows 7 as far as security is concerned but introduces all sorts of new loopholes and problems. Any corporation with extremely scalar infrastructure, up above the 1000 to 2000 user range, is going to be forced into adopting a vendor-neutral information technology strategy, and those strategies are going to trickle down into small businesses. E.G. Stories have been tricking out about business system projects migrating to vendor neutral server hardware, namely Linux or Oracle systems at large companies, because of compliance issues.
At the end of the day, Microsoft's technologies are maybe 1 to 2 generations ahead of open source software libraries which have become good enough for most intents and purposes. If Microsoft doesn't pull off its cognitive services gamble, and there's a pretty substantial chance they won't, then they, along with Apple and Google, are going to find themselves walled into their own shrinking gardens as people escape into standards based open source infrastructure. It will be the geeks at first, then the large and medium sized businesses, then SMB and the end user market will follow. There are a lot of legal battles the RIAA\MPAA and Microsoft will fight to wall consumers in further. Frankly, Silicon valley and Hollywood are further down on the list behind the migrants and H1B's, and what will end up happening is they will get annihilated by the new middle class that is coming because their patience for such usury will be razor thin. E.G. Expect a new consumer organizations to get funded by donation as people realize they n
my cynical self makes me wonder if this is a trial balloon for upcoming releases of Windows.
I'll believe it's a trial balloon for eliminating third-party stores once Visual Studio is available in the form of a "Windows Store app".
putting each url on separate lines instead of grouping them logically by SLD
Some hosts parsers do not understand more than one hostname per line, though recent Windows supports up to nine.
inconsistent ordering of the bare versions and the www. versions
Ideally, a hosts parser would use a Bloom filter to cache a large file. But because most operating systems instead use a linear scan, more frequently accessed hostnames should go near the top. If you're using it to work around flaky ISP DNS, hostnames you use frequently should go above hostnames you're blocking. Thus the output of a tool that automatically sorts entries by access frequency might look inconsistent in this manner.
It would seem the industry of tech companies telling their "customers" to go fuck themselves is booming. When I read this beautifully moving piece of art it brought me to tears.
"This version of Windows was made to help protect you and your device by exclusively running Windows Store apps."
Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo beautiful...
Which courses should I take to prepare myself for a job in this rewarding, challenging and growing field? Does Microsoft have any internships available?
Just keep hawking ltsb 1607, it's the only edition you can tame and relatively stable without the cruft. What a shame it's not available in stores.
There is a full taskbar, a start button, desktop icons even, and I'm seeing apps with a menu bar.
So I'm thinking people will mistake it for a full version of Windows again. Unless this is just an internal version or something.
I mean, regedit?, explorer.exe?, aren't those Win32 applications?
Now I'm learning that a large subset of Win32 is included in the UWP platform. Well done. So, is Metro dead or something? If that's just a power grab and a way to get devs to write Win32 applications that don't run on Windows 7 and 8, and we get to be smothered by gigabytes of updates anyway, that doesn't feel that interesting anymore.
Now, is there any chance we can get a forward compatible linux desktop one day? Past 2020 or 2023, I wonder how we'll be supposed to run commercial, freeware, proprietary etc. software.
Should I install Windows 7 while I still can? Had I migrated to XP 64 instead of Ubuntu 10.04 years back, I would have had about four years of ability to play games and run properly working software and drivers.
m$ killing off windoze nicely. But whateva if you don't know shit about computers then use SteamOS otherwise Ubuntu.
why m$ is still alive.... fuck knows...
for anyone who posts a story passing off PR like this as a "leak." Firing Squad. Hanging. Lethal Injection. Guillotine. All at once.
And for the editor who posted this story:Castration.
Microsoft has always produced crap. It's inevitable and sad. Just buy a Mac or install Linux and you'll be much happier. I know, I know by making this change you'll have to learn something new. I know that's frightening. I assure you it's worth it.
there's yandex and baidu
and also yacy search appliance
stop being ignorant?
Seems like another push that will, ultimately, benefit linux more than windows. Good job microsoft! I hope they keep chasing customers away with this heavy handed bs. Linux is not a "small" hurdle anymore. Most people, with windows, only have it because something they do requires it....like gaming or office shit.
Maybe when you get a new PC/laptop, the question should be asked up front. Do you want to make your PC/Laptop more secure/easier to use/similar to your iPhone (with some small print saying that it will become a cloud-only appliance). If you answer yes then it sets itself to be that. You should also be able to switch between the two modes of operation if the need arises.
My company has the Microsoft Surface Hub and it uses the said version. Only allows App Store apps. Working well for the device considering its use for collaboration and multi user use.
Regardless of the source, if this is Windows 10 Cloud, a face palm through the head won't even be enough to express the failure on this.
It's like they don't even know why Window RT failed.