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Kaspersky Lab Promises New Backup Tool To Help Unhappy Social Media Users Quit (kaspersky.com)

Kaspersky Lab surveyed 16,750 people and concluded that often negative experiences on social experience overpower their positive effects -- and they're doing something about it. JustAnotherOldGuy pointed us to their latest announcement. 59% have felt unhappy when they have seen friends' posts from a party they were not invited to, and 45% revealed that their friends' happy holiday pictures have had a negative influence on them. Furthermore, 37% also admitted that looking at past happy posts of their own can leave them with the feeling that their own past was better than their present life. Previous research has also demonstrated peoples' frustration with social media as 78% admitted that they have considered leaving social networks altogether. The only thing that makes people stay on social media is the fear of losing their digital memories, such as photos, and contacts with their friends.

To help people decide more freely if they want to stay in social media or leave without losing their digital memories, Kaspersky Lab is developing a new app -- FFForget will allow people to back up all of their memories from the social networks they use and keep them in a safe, encrypted memory container and will give people the freedom to leave any network whenever they want, without losing what belongs to them -- their digital lives.

The FFForget app will be released in 2017, but there's already a web page where you can sign up for early access. Kaspersky plans to monetize this by creating both a free version of the app -- limited to one social network -- and a $1.99-per-month version which automatically backs up social content from Facebook, Google, Twitter, and Instagram in real-time with a fancier interface and more powerful encryption.

54 comments

  1. Is this for snowflakes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Seriously, you people need to get the fuck over yourselves. You are just a bunch of narcissistic crybabies.

    1. Re:Is this for snowflakes? by Dutchmaan · · Score: 1

      ...and who are you to judge?

    2. Re:Is this for snowflakes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously he is special...and unique!

    3. Re: Is this for snowflakes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Snowflake crybabies are useless parasites. I suggest exterminating them altogether. Incidentally this will lead to fewer cases of smelly indo-chimps trying to cross the border. A win-win.

    4. Re:Is this for snowflakes? by postbigbang · · Score: 1

      Step away from the coffee maker. Your anger management has peaked, and now spread out over the site of a bunch of babbling geeks.

      By the way, have you thought seriously about joining Whitehouse.govr? You'd do really really well there.

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      ---- Teach Peace. It's Cheaper Than War.
    5. Re:Is this for snowflakes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why should I not judge? I can and I will because I can, snowflake. Now go cry yourself to sleep.

    6. Re:Is this for snowflakes? by Dutchmaan · · Score: 1

      Why should I not judge? I can and I will because I can, snowflake. Now go cry yourself to sleep.

      It just seems rather ironic. You seem to be showing narcissistic tendencies and are quite frankly acting like a crybaby. Therefore it seems quite plausible that you're just projecting your own tendencies onto others.

    7. Re:Is this for snowflakes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "...and who are you to judge?"

      "It just seems rather ironic. You seem to be showing narcissistic tendencies and are quite frankly acting like a crybaby."

  2. Isn't this free? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facebook gives you a free dump. Instagram is the only thing not easy, and what does the rest matter? There are already a few instagram solutions. It looks like more useless apps from A/V companies. But hey, it probably gives the russians the same access the CIA has, so that is great.

    1. Re:Isn't this free? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, it is as you said. And I personally do not understand why someone who's leaving a social networking site would possibly want to backup their data. Isn't the point of leaving them to, I don't know, get rid of all that data? I left Facebook, Google+ and alike ~1 year ago. Felt good. And to be honest, it feels like those particular sites have seen their peaks.

    2. Re: Isn't this free? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My only thought was bop-hoo. Suck it up buttercup.

    3. Re:Isn't this free? by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      Kaspersky Lab is developing a new app -- FFForget will allow people to back up all of their memories from the social networks they use and keep them in a safe, encrypted memory container

      Yeah, yeah, and then we have to pay you guys BTC 5 to unlock it again. We know the drill, your colleagues have been doing this to us for years.

  3. Lol, not a problem by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "FFForget will allow people to back up all of their memories from the social networks they use and keep them in a safe, encrypted memory container and will give people the freedom to leave any network whenever they want..."

    No problem- I avoided all this stress by not having a Facebook account, or Instacrap, Pinterest, etc etc etc.

    I host my own pics on my own servers, so I miss out on all the angst and data-mining.

    --
    Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
    1. Re:Lol, not a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But you can't show off your breakfast and photos of your cat. In my case, if I have no breakfast to show, I just took photos from magazines and post it in FB telling everyone how delicious my breakfast is.

    2. Re:Lol, not a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so....why would you pay monthly for something you'll use once, to leave all social networking stupidity.

    3. Re:Lol, not a problem by hughbar · · Score: 1

      Me too. I did have Facebook for a couple of months and then deleted it. I have also deleted my LinkedIn since the Microsoft bid.

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      On y va, qui mal y pense!
    4. Re:Lol, not a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I host my own pics on my own servers, so I miss out on all the angst and data-mining."

      Ha! I don't even have a server to maintain. I host all my life's memories in my brain where I can recall and enjoy them whenever I like. And no worries about my digital life once I'm dead because everything goes with me. No one really gives a shit about my life's memories except me anyway, so why depress others by sharing them.

  4. Backup? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only thing that makes people stay on social media is the fear of losing their digital memories, such as photos, and contacts with their friends.

    Backup photos and other items to your computer or cloud drive?

    Keep the account so you can contact people as needed, but don't bother posting or reading posts. And connect with people one on one instead of on a website by phone, email, or in person?

    Are people unable to control themselves? Or conduct themselves in a competent manner to their own benefit? Is logic and reason dead now?

  5. Another proposal by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What about stopping wasting your time with stupid social media, and getting a life instead?

    1. Re:Another proposal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't this tool to help one do that?

    2. Re:Another proposal by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Social media is a part of life but people need to accept each social media site as only a fun fad and not commit so much emotion or effort to it. Social media, no different to the yoyo, the hula hoop or any other fad, just like MySpace. Play with it for a little while, gets boring or annoying, then stop, do not invest your life in it, you will suffer for it.

      People need to place proper context on social media, ignore the hype and bullshit marketing, it is a game, it is not life. Play to amuse yourself and be willing to drop it when ever it becomes boring or annoying and move on to real life but playing on social media can be a small part of life or not, just like all fads, choose which ones you want to play on.

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      Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
    3. Re:Another proposal by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

      Social media is a part of life but people need to accept each social media site as only a fun fad and not commit so much emotion or effort to it.

      If only. Since I resisted FB for years, and only signed up when I needed to for the various projects I work on, I had a little different perspective. Well, my relatives found me, and I have to say that they run the gamut, but all are overly involved. From the over-sharer, who apprently shares every single thing she does on the internet - quickly unfollowed, to the drama queen who posts cryptic messages like "I can't stand it any more" and then everyone else holds her in their prayers, to the overly politicized who post endless trumphillary bullshit. Then there is the chain letters of the interent age, and a couple endless outrage third wave feminists.

      All in all, these were people who used to be pretty darn nice. Now they are all screwed up. I find myself visiting the non required groups less and less.

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      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    4. Re:Another proposal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More like a cure that is worse than the disease.

  6. just don't log in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And anything you want to save you should have backups anyway. That's not hard even for the non-tech.

    I got bored with everything but Twitter which I like for the tech stuff. It's like a gasp cool personalized RSS feed. Back to UserLand!

  7. "holiday pictures" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    This one for sure. I'm white and a programmer that lives in Seattle so the vacation inequality problem is huge. I haven't had more than a single day off at a time in nearly twenty years. My Asian friends all get two or more weeks contiguous off each year. Yes, I understand flying to India is expensive and time-consuming so you need to spend as much time as you can there, but it's ridiculous that this industry tolerates that inequality. My last vacation was when I worked at Microsoft in 1997 and went to Mexico for a week. I got several phone calls a day. It suck when, for example, eating dinner and having the hotel manager track me down to take a phone call. I quit Microsoft after I had taken a Friday off to fly home for my mother's funeral and then was demanded to be back at work on the following Monday. I didn't really have any choice in the matter since I had to settle everything and sell her house. The one positive thing was that I got unemployment anyway since I found a sympathetic employee at the Washington state Employment Security Department. When you get screwed bad enough for a normally uncaring bureaucrat to sympathize with you, it's pretty bad.

    1. Re: "holiday pictures" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Never heard that term before. That's a great way to describe the problem.

      It sucks seeing my coworkers get weeks off every year and the ones with families allowed time off to a lesser extent while the single guys aren't even allowed to take a day off. I was recently allowed to take only a long weekend off after gallbladder surgery even though my doctor said I should take an entire week off. I had to return since the two other guys on my team were in India each for three weeks.

    2. Re: "holiday pictures" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bet after leaving Microsoft that if you worked for startups, things were even worse. I know everywhere I've worked has had to severely limit vacation time for locals since we just can't find enough developers.

    3. Re:"holiday pictures" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > I got unemployment

      I don't think that is that uncommon. My roommate that worked for Microsoft quit after not being allowed to take any vacation time after nearly two years of working there. He was able to document that other people on his team that were Indian were allowed time off and had to provide a copy of the page in the employee handbook* that specified the time was supposed to be given. He still got unemployment despite the fact he quit. It was over $500 a week which was nice since he could still afford to pay his half of the rent.

      * Always keep a copy of your company's employee handbook. After I was laid-off from a previous employer and not paid for unused vacation time, I couldn't prove what I was supposed to have earned. The company refused to give me a copy.

    4. Re: "holiday pictures" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You Americans with your shit terms and conditions and indentured servitude mentality. You want to think about joining a union. Then you might work decent hours for fair pay and ge t holidays etc.

      But no you're too brainwashed and"unions are communism".

      Enjoy your corporate slave lives.

    5. Re: "holiday pictures" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you attack racist vacation policies by being more racist?

    6. Re: "holiday pictures" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone in any of my companies joins a union or even goes to a union meeting gets their contract terminated immediately and is escorted out by armed security. We also terminate a coworker chosen at random among the less productive. This keeps everybody in line quite well. We only had to resort to the measure twice, the second time the offending ex-worker had only been seen talking to a union representative but a message needed to be sent. I strongly advice any manager to implement a similar policy. It works.

    7. Re: "holiday pictures" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry to hear you cornered yourself so badly.

      Here in Canada two weeks are sort of standard, but early in my career I was where you are.

      I simply decided to change jobs until I did a normal place to work.

      It is possible, so, that would be my advice for you.
      It may it may not work. Everybody has a different outlook in life.

    8. Re: "holiday pictures" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It sucks seeing my coworkers get weeks off every year and the ones with families allowed time off to a lesser extent while the single guys aren't even allowed to take a day off. I was recently allowed to take only a long weekend off after gallbladder surgery even though my doctor said I should take an entire week off. I had to return since the two other guys on my team were in India each for three weeks.

      Your employer should not have a say in your sick leave; that should be up to your doctor.
      Then again, I take seven weeks of vacation every year, and return rested and well, and ready for more. I take the vacation usually in three portions, and have had only one sick day in the last 20 years. I am paid six figures in US dollars (the leading figure is greater than unity) to do so. About 20 years ago, I took only five weeks of vacation, and my salary was lower - a mere 5 figures in US dollars.

    9. Re: "holiday pictures" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Your employer should not have a say in your sick leave

      When my time off to do nothing but be lazy would have screwed Microsoft, Microsoft certainly should have a damn say in my life even if my doctor said it might kill me. I know you hate Microsoft, but that is ridiculous.

      > I take seven weeks of vacation every year

      As one of the longest top programmers at Microsoft, I know you're a damn liar. The longest vacation time Microsoft has been able to afford me was an extra day over Thanksgiving so I had a five day weekend. You obviously must be very incompetent for your company to be able to survive without you. You have proven that you are worthless by being so damn lazy and the fact that your company survived for seven weeks without you. You are just damn worthless. I work with a lot of morons like your kind, and you make my life shit. I want to die because of your kind.

    10. Re: "holiday pictures" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seven? That proves you are worthless and not needed. If I didn't work for even one week, my company would be destroyed.

    11. Re: "holiday pictures" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because you are unimportant and not critical doesn't mean everyone else is.

  8. The only antivirus needed is MS Defender by iMadeGhostzilla · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hence Kaspersky's attempt to make money on something else. The fact that they chose such unproductive and unnecessary activity is a bit worrying. Was there nothing else they could have applied their talent on? Is that the sign that the productivity has run out of room to grow?

    1. Re:The only antivirus needed is MS Defender by sound+vision · · Score: 1

      Maybe it's that. Or they might just be branching out into other products, since AV software is at best a stagnant market.

  9. unhappy about friends' vacations? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    45% revealed that their friends' happy holiday pictures have had a negative influence on them

    Now, I have never signed up for any of these newfangled Faceagram Instabook Linkedspace things, so maybe I am just out of touch with modern life. But speaking solely for myself here, it makes me happy to know my friends had a nice vacation with some downtime, experiencing other places and cultures, etc.

    I can't imagine why you'd ever be unhappy about someone you called a friend having a nice experience. Unless it was a shitty vacation or thereabouts, but that's a different thing.

    So, serious question: does social media really have that effect on people? If so it seems ... unhealthy at best.

    1. Re:unhappy about friends' vacations? by CaptnCrud · · Score: 1

      100% positive there is a correlation of those unhappy people being single vs non-single (even more so being childless and single vs families)...which is what facebook whoring seems mostly about.

      I quite in 2010 and never looked back. To depressing if you're forever alone for a long period of time...even if you're happy for the people around you.

    2. Re:unhappy about friends' vacations? by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      100% positive there is a correlation of those unhappy people being single vs non-single (even more so being childless and single vs families)...which is what facebook whoring seems mostly about.

      Could be a chicken and egg thing. A lot of men are choosing to remain single because the cards are stacked against them, and present day young women have been raised on a steady diet of misandry since they were young, and are mostly pretty unpleasant to be around, so it's kind of understandable that men are a little harder to get. My single male friends are either really happy or putting up a big front, and the older single females - not so much. The lament is "Where did all the good men go?" Well - it's like Yogi Berra said, "..if they aren't going to go there, there's no way you are going to stop them."

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      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
  10. Kasperky? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd rather not send my social media credentials to the KGB...

  11. An iOS app already does this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://momentoapp.com/

    I'm sure there's an Android analogue as well, but I'm unfamiliar with Android.

  12. Hey Kaspersky. by pigsycyberbully · · Score: 0

    Kaspersky I am not too happy with them. We had some news about people being arrested for treason?
    My payment system is a Windows system and I had to transfer some money and "Kaspersky Internet security" is working in the background and I am thinking to myself is it safe. I was transferring £5000 not a lot of money but but the account I was transferring it to had a lot of money in it. This Windows payment system has a long standing contract with Kaspersky, I wish they would let people know what is happening. When the licence is near its end they always send you an e-mail reminding you. So where is my e-mail telling me what is happening. Is my money safe? What the fuck is happening.
    Sunday 05/02/17.

  13. Where the copy will be sent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are they gonna save the copy in KGB servers, CIA or Mossad servers? If Mossad I am ok with that. They have all the data already anyways.

  14. Not Social by Princeofcups · · Score: 1

    "Social media" is more like mass advertising than social interaction. It is a form of instant gratification, that takes advantage of people's inherent insecurities. My best friends are ones that I know will hide me from the cops if I arrive at their door covered in blood, not the ones that spend the most time making superficial replies to my random posts. Build strong relationships with a small number of important people. You will be much happier.

    --
    The only thing worse than a Democrat is a Republican.
  15. That's not the tool Facebook really needs by Nova+Express · · Score: 2

    It's a "Block All Political Bullshit" button. Left, right, libertarian, socialist, SJW, vegan, just block it all. Automatically blocks all links to any political sites and anything else enough people tag as political.

    But Facebook won't do that just like they won't honor your endless switching your feed back to Most Recent. Because there's no money in it for them.

    --
    Lawrence Person (lawrencepersonh@gmailh.com (remove all "h"s to mail)

    http://www.lawrenceperson.com/

    1. Re:That's not the tool Facebook really needs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree, places like Facebook don't really work because most people do not have that exciting of life that they need to have such a instant gratification outlet.
      So many tend to use it as a cause, a political pulpit or to complain. Some feel the need to post something or they fear becoming unfriended or ignored. I see social media as little more than clicks which isn't much different than the school time clicks we created in the lunch rooms. Everyone picks their safe zones. Politics used to be something you kept to yourself. Now people shun you just because of who you support. It's incredibly narrow minded of people these days.

  16. Interesting about social media habits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I personally think social media is more about gossip and knowing what everyone else is doing. To me its sort of trying to replace what was once infrequent gatherings with friends to catch up. But I think some of that social media is a bit too much information at times for everyone. It's probably why on average people start off with a social web site frequently visiting and posting and then eventually that enthusiasm and interest fades. But I don't think people stay just because of their personal content. I think they are unwilling to cut the social cord to others for fear of losing a connection.

  17. Who gets the data? by VikingNation · · Score: 1

    Will be data be hosted on the client's machine or on their servers? Will access to information from governments require a warrant?

  18. The link to FFForget in TFS failed for me. by ISBNread · · Score: 1

    Try without "www", it worked for me: https://ffforget.kaspersky.com... .

  19. Kaspersky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Promises that it will only share harvested social networking data with the Russian FSB.

  20. F.... Zuckerberg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not his bleeping product. Say no to Facebook. So no to the walled garden!