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French Politician Uses Hologram To Hold Meetings In Two Cities At the Same Time (reuters.com)

neutrino38 writes: The French presidential election is approaching fast. One of the candidates, Jean-Luc Melenchon, used a hologram to hold two public meetings at once. With a political program that is mostly socialist and very left leaning, some people pointed out that he used private innovation to stand out from the crowd. Reuters notes that this is "not the first politician to employ such technology," adding that "in 2014, then-Turkish prime minister Tayyip Erdogan used a huge hologram of himself to attract wider support, while India's Narendra Modi trounced the opposition with a campaign that included holograms of his speeches in villages across the country." You can watch part of one of Melenchon's virtual meetings here.

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  1. WTF Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    some people pointed out that he used private innovation to stand out from the crowd.

    Somebody please explain the significance of selected statement here. Does being a candidate of the Socialist Party mean that one should be coy like a little princess? Isn't that equivalent to using alien technology for a politician?

    1. Re:WTF Time by manu0601 · · Score: 2

      This socialist candidate is not running for the Socialist Party. Many people consider the french Socialist Party is not socialist anymore.

    2. Re:WTF Time by ElRabbit · · Score: 2

      This guy is closer to communist than socialist.To put the thing in perspective, he is hanging around telling that big tech corporation are evil on Earth and he wants to tax robots.

    3. Re:WTF Time by Xenographic · · Score: 2

      I don't get this either. What does a hologram really add here vs. normal people holding a gotomeeting/webex/whatever over 3 different continents regularly?

    4. Re:WTF Time by unixisc · · Score: 1

      Where does he stand on Muslim immigration? Same as Hollande, or more similar to Le Pen?

    5. Re:WTF Time by Imrik · · Score: 3, Funny

      Holograms get press attention.

    6. Re:WTF Time by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Funny

      Does being a candidate of the Socialist Party mean that one should be coy like a little princess?

      Please help me Obi Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope.

    7. Re:WTF Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This guy is a communist. He has founded something like the "left party" because social democracy was too far right for him. His party wants to turn France in a democratic socialist republic, like the DDR or North Korea, instead of the western social democracy. Of course those two examples were not the 'real' communism. His version however is 'real'.

    8. Re:WTF Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, a pretty opposite stance on immigration.
      Melenchon does promotes strong secularity but otherwise doesn't care about Islam much at all, preferring to talk about more important topics e.g. he proposes ending wars (get out of NATO) and unfair trade agreements, as the root causes of most of the crap that's going on.
      One other over-arching theme is that of environmentalism, including but not limited to energy and the global climate. You can't combat inequality without tackling these issues. It's not like the lower middle class, working class, underclass (and the 3rd-world-ers) are those who profit the most from poisoning water, rivers, air, land, food, the oceans and so on. In fact, billionaires tend to not like in cancer villages. So, Melenchon or perhaps should we say the left-wing movement call for "ecological planning", as they did last time five years ago.

      Le Pen apes left-wing talking points but otherwise e.g. proposed to deny healthcare to foreigners, and then lately to deny schooling for their children. Not very left-wing to kick children from schools. Anyway, what you're saying is offending and ignorant. It's like saying Trump and Sanders are the same.

    9. Re:WTF Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *billionaires tend to not live in cancer villages

    10. Re:WTF Time by Sam+H · · Score: 1

      Can you back that claim? Because on the other side of the spectrum, Mélenchon has also been criticised for openly praising the achievements of the Dassault companies, for instance, such as their CAD software CATIA (source: http://gauche.blog.lemonde.fr/...)

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    11. Re:WTF Time by zijus · · Score: 5, Informative

      More similar to Lepen. In fact they are close on many subjects, Lepen being extreme right and Melenchon being extreme left.

      Nope.

      To coin it simply : beyond Le Pen on the right side there is... nothing. No other party. So, technically Le Pen is indeed extreme right. Yet the main reason why to tag Le Pen "extreme right" is its fundamental views : ethnic, xenophobic, anti-semitic influences, islamophobic, rather incompetent regarding public policies. These points will be vehemently disputed by this party and Marine Le Pen worked hard to soften the picture. Yet, fundamentally it is correct to state it is extreme-right : it is conceptually and historically. It is also little known yet well analysed this party actually picked-up many political concept from left movement. Yep : you see it is the other way around, Front National try to look acceptable and credible by diverting ideas from the left. Nice tactic isn't it ?! Classic.

      Mélenchon (his movement is currently named "La France Insoumise" or FI or Greek symbol Phi) is a all together different story. Many have a strong interest into shaping this politician as an "extremist" : it would so much easier to discredit him. Yet he is not. At all. That would be as bold as stating Berni Sanders is a dangerous extreme left. Bold and... incorrect. Indeed he severely questions EU and globalisation as also do some... centre party, not only extreme right. That does not make him extreme.

      First item : beyond Mélenchon on the left side in France one can find at least 2 groups : NPA (Nouveau Parti Anti-capitalist) and LO (Lute Ouvrière). So, simply put : no Mélenchon is technically NOT extreme left. Second and more important item : these two party (NPA and LO) are anti-republican (they do not believe in the concept of Republic as a collective type of organisation). They promote armed revolution. Their view is very much labour-class centric. These party (NPA & LO) are technically and conceptually really extreme left. On the other hand Mélenchon promotes an "extreme-republic" (his words) view. He calls for pacific drastic changes in the form of a 6th republic. He cares not only for the labour-class but more importantly for the human-class : the one that is being shredded by necro-liberalism and environmental lunatics. He for example explicitly calls for legalisation on long-term-illegal-workers. He is not maniac about Muslims or other religions (He calls for a clear state-church split. He thinks citizen should believe what they want at home and at church. (He also stresses in France more than 50% is agnostic or atheist)). And so on...

      So Dude wake up ! You may not like Mélenchon or left or far-left or or extreme-left or socialists or your auntie or you name it : fair enough. Yet, you cannot just go banana and disseminate random idiocies. I also notice that for me to give a little context, it takes... this. While for you to libel it is as easy as a one-liner idiocy. This is classic malevolent rhetorical technique : dump a crap-load and force your opponent to waist energy and time on the clean-up. Did that for you.

      Sorry, I don't buy your bullshit.

    12. Re: WTF Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      & UR a Bell-Nd

    13. Re:WTF Time by Gussington · · Score: 1

      This guy is closer to communist than socialist.To put the thing in perspective, he is hanging around telling that big tech corporation are evil on Earth and he wants to tax robots.

      Since pretty much everything is taxed, why wouldn't robots also be taxed also? This argument isn't a very good one...

    14. Re:WTF Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      North Korea is run by a despotic autocrat and the DDR was run by Stalinist bureacracy, They are not directly comparable to each other let alone being communist. Communism being a socioeconomic order based upon the principles common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money,and the state - not a massive all pervasive state bureaucracy.

    15. Re:WTF Time by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Anonymous users of 4chan's /pol/ board are currently trying to influence the French election and get the far right candidate elected. Since most of them don't speak French they are asking French users to help write their copy/paste shitposts so that they can then pull their standard sockpuppet attack on social media.

      It's hard to say how effective they are, but it's also quite worrying. They really have studied that leaked GCHQ guide to social media manipulation well. Hopefully as people get wise to memes and fake news the whole thing will backfire, but it's far from a certainty.

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    16. Re:WTF Time by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      If they can convince people that it's 90% as good as being there, they can get 190% as much effect from a single speech. It's not just what they say, it's that people go there and meet other like-minded people and become motivated to campaign on his behalf.

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    17. Re:WTF Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Links to buzzfeed, and then laments fake news. Awesome.

    18. Re:WTF Time by magarity · · Score: 1

      They are both directly comparable to communism because every nominally "communist" revolution ends up a brutal dictatorship. Communism works great when its about the size of a large farm and everyone there participate voluntarily. Larger than that and, well, More's Utopia pretty much nailed it hundreds of years before Marx was born.

    19. Re:WTF Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since most of them don't speak French

      Why do they care for French elections? Are they trying to become a global international right wing movement? It smells like international communism to me.

    20. Re:WTF Time by Xenographic · · Score: 1

      Honestly, your post should probably be more 'insightful' than funny....

    21. Re:WTF Time by manu0601 · · Score: 1

      This guy is a communist.

      How do you define communism? He does not advocate dictatorship of the proletariat or collectivization of the whole economy. IMO that rules him out as a communist

    22. Re: WTF Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Brutal dictators have a tendency to take over in lots of places, see France, Chile, China, Kenya, Athens, Thebes, and Sparta, alomg with many more.

      They don't care what the philosophyof the day is, they'll use it.

      Marx would tell you that if you listened to a word he wrote.

      You won't, of course, because you can't imagine what the problem is. You're a perfect tool for indoctrination. Welcome to the Freedom Party.

  2. Hmmm by slick7 · · Score: 1, Funny

    What was he doing, surrendering to two invaders at once?

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    1. Re:Hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, claiming 2 allowances at once!

  3. Private innovation? "You didn't build that!" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's Mine is mine and what's yours is Mine —The State.

    1. Re:Private innovation? "You didn't build that!" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeh, yeh, we get it. Americans don't like sharing.

    2. Re:Private innovation? "You didn't build that!" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > What's Mine is mine and what's yours is Mine —The State.

      World is Mine:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSyWtESoeOc

  4. Left and Right are big by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    What are his specific big issues?

    1. Re:Left and Right are big by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ecology, education, and wealth equality, mostly.

  5. Who else used holograms? by colinrichardday · · Score: 4, Funny

    Has anyone ever seen this guy and Palpatine in the same room together?

    1. Re: Who else used holograms? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, as a matter of fact, I have.

      Alomg with Jerrica Benton, Sharon Apple, Max Headroom, Hatsune Miku and Fred Astaire.

      We were watching Forrest Gump's appearance in Balls of Fury 3X^âsÂ: Steampunk Scooby-Doo.

    2. Re:Who else used holograms? by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      Help me, Robespierre, you're our only hope.

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  6. Typo by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    FWIW, his name is Melenchon, not Melanchon. Is it so hard to copy/paste correctly?

    1. Re:Typo by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      What the hell is copie/pâte?

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    2. Re:Typo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This is /.
      Call me when they will finally figure out UTF8 encoding.

    3. Re:Typo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot is euro-centric enough* that the subset it supports includes the characters needed to write French, if only for such English words as "façade".

      * if only by extension, from being so much US or North America centric.

      mmm.. It's got æ but not "U+0153 LATIN SMALL LIGATURE OE", not that we care too much as everyone is used to writing "oe" on computers.
      I'd like people to write "æsthetic" (in English), you have a weird spelling for that word already, just mash the "a" and "e" together :)

    4. Re:Typo by manu0601 · · Score: 1

      Yes, ISO-8859-1 (aka Latin-1) does not contains the œ and Œ characters. You need ISO-8859-15 (aka Latin-9) to have them. Same for the Euro symbol.

  7. Now Politicians can speak out of both sides... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now Politicians cans speak out of both sides of their mouths, in more than one place at once.

  8. Re:Not the first one by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 2

    Funny how political extremists always seem to be the first to embrace new technologies to further their agendas

    You have survivor bias. An extreme candidate without such an advantage loses and is forgotten. You should also look at the /. story today about how the Brexit vote and Trump used psychometric profiles for similar "new technologies make unexpected outcomes happen".

    That said, I know nothing about this candidate, and have no reason to believe (or disbelieve) he is an extremist.

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  9. Re:Not the first one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If Reuters actually has the balls to call someone "far-left" right in the title of the article, you can rest fucking assured they're an extremist.

  10. Liberté, égalité, fraternité by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    thumbs up-ité

  11. The most transparent candidate ever by raymorris · · Score: 1, Funny

    In his holographic speech, he promised to be the most transparent candidate ever!

    Just kidding, he's a socialist - he promised to send guys with guns to take all your shit, unless you send it to him first.

    1. Re:The most transparent candidate ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just like the banksters send lawyers, CEOs and drones in suits to take all your shit and deny you healthcare.

    2. Re:The most transparent candidate ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another Trumpy has no idea what socialism is, lol. Sad!

    3. Re:The most transparent candidate ever by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Obama's got a lot of criticism for running the most transparent administration in history. Look, if something is transparent, you can't see it. Doesn't anyone use dictionaries any more?

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    4. Re:The most transparent candidate ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look, if something is transparent, you can't see it. Doesn't anyone use dictionaries any more?

      You obviously don't since that's not what transparent means.

    5. Re:The most transparent candidate ever by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      The thing is, politically, does it matter that he employed this technology? Does this bit of spectacle make his political positions any more valid or attractive? It shouldn't, because that would be incredibly shallow and superficial. It's just flash and bling. People are too easily mesmerized by shiny things. But then again, it works for Hollywood celebrities, so maybe he's on to something.

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  12. Pepper's Ghost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Can we go easy on the word 'Hologram'? This is likely a pepper's ghost effect; as is 90%+ of what's being called a 'hologram' these days.
    It's a neat effect, and the Reuters image reveals a great reference for the setup (particularly interesting lighting rig), but lets reserve the h word for real examples of the phenomenon.

    1. Re:Pepper's Ghost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not sure why so many comments seem to say that. It's a real hologram, as you can see on this video. The image was real 3D, with people standing next to him, etc.

      Seems like it's one of the first uses of a live hologram too.

    2. Re:Pepper's Ghost by BradleyUffner · · Score: 1

      Pepper's Ghost easily allows other "real" actors on stage at the same time. Its just an angled piece of glass (that you can easily see the frame for in the video) that reflects an image from below the stage. On-stage actors are visible in front of, or behind the glass, with perspective tricks used to make them line up.

    3. Re:Pepper's Ghost by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      There's nothing holographic about it. It's a reflection. The image is not 3D; it's flat.

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  13. Loves me some Sharon Apple by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    Was Hatsune Miku there too? How about Yandere-chan? The neighbor in Hello Neighbor?

    1. Re: Loves me some Sharon Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, they sang a duet to President Bobby. I think Wilson was there, but I'm not sure, I never saw his face.

  14. Oops, you did mention Hatsune Miku by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    How could I have missed that? Glitch in the Matrix?

  15. Re:Capital, means of production by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    You are generally allowed to keep your personal effects and such, which is why socialism has any popularity.

  16. Re:Capital, means of production by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes but you're not allowed to put advertising on your personal blog because that would be private wealth production. And we all know absolutely everyone's income in the social economy comes from monetizing a blog so socialism is totally fucked.

  17. That's it! by Arkh89 · · Score: 0

    When the technological revolution is here to serve the communist revolution...
    Frickin' soviets...

    1. Re:That's it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What you talkin' 'bout Willis?
      When the robots are here taking your jobs and the factory owners take your money, and your dumb Yank ass is dying slowly 'cause you can't afford health insurance, then you'll have time to look at what socialism attempt to provide. Either that or you bald monkeys will have voted for more fascism and we'll all be bombed back to the caves.

    2. Re:That's it! by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      Socialism attempts to provide universal poverty, except for those holding the reigns of power. Granted, that's not what socialism claims to provide, but I thought you lefty's were ever-so-adept at picking out lies in advertising.

      As regards medical care, there are 3 choices. You can save your own money, and have 100% of it to pay for your medical expenses. You can buy insurance, and the company will rake off at least 30%, leaving you with 70% to pay your medical expenses, averaged over the population. You can have the government replace the insurance companies, in which case the rake-off:remainder is closer to 50:50.

      Health insurance is not medical care.

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    3. Re:That's it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hell no.

      1. You can save your own money, say $1000 a year, $4000, whatever. A decade or less later you have an accident or something, or a very small health problem and the bill is 500% of your savings. You buy an adequate length of rope instead.
      2. You can have social security health insurance. The social security rakes 10% off, leaving your with 90% to pay your medical expenses, averaged over the population.
      3. You replace social security with 100% private insurance. They will rake off at least 50%, leaving you with the reminder. Well, your family had a history of testicles cancer or something like that, so when you apply for insurance you're denied anyway. Your 12-year-old son has a fatal but preventable disease. The hospital tells you he has to go home and die. You have a small and inconsequential chronic cough, but this has been going on and off for five years and your back is not that great but you're a rough and tough man!
      Your second wife agrees - first wife died in childbirth, but not everyone is equal and she got what she deserved. People that are unhealthy like that should question their choices.
      Well, the time has come where you really can't ignore that tooth in the back of the mouth! You ask your wife : "Honey, you know your way with a fine pair of pliers like that one, right?". After your tooth is extracted, some more years pass. Then, bam! Congratulations, you're dead at age 49! Thanks for playing.

      Lol America!!!

  18. Not a hologram by Solandri · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Marketers seem eager to abuse and misuse establish terms for advertising purposes. First "hoverboard", now "hologram".

    As best as I can tell (TFA is devoid of details), this is a glorified version of the system used at Hatsune Miku" concerts - a simple rear projection onto a glass screen. A slightly more sophisticated version uses multiple cameras surrounding the person whose image is being broadcast, and switches between them depending on where the observer camera is positioned. That creates the illusion that the observer can move around the image in 3D, but the illusion only works for the observer being tracked. Anyone else sees a 2D image which rotates depending on where the designated observer moves, not based on where they themselves move.

    A true hologram is not conveyed as an image. It is conveyed as an interference pattern created by taking a Fourier transform of a 3D light field. When you take another Fourier transform of that interference pattern (e.g. shine onto it coherent light equivalent to the light that originally created the pattern), it reconstructs the original 3D light field - a hologram.

    1. Re:Not a hologram by locater16 · · Score: 1

      Also known as a variation of "Pepper's Ghost" which has been a stage trick for over a century. That being said I was watching an episode of Futurama from 2012 where Nixon promises to build a border fence (it's a wall) along Mexico and another presidential candidate uses holograms to make public appearances in different places simultaneously. This shit is why the only sci-fi anymore is sci-fantasy or post apocalyptic. Cause as soon as you come up with something sci-fi like that's realistic it's actually just reality 5 years later.

    2. Re:Not a hologram by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's an explanation from the company who handled it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIZzltJqW20

      It was a real hologram, with people standing next to it at times, and being 3D from any point of view.

    3. Re:Not a hologram by Trogre · · Score: 2

      That was the capture stage.

      There was no interference pattern from coherent light.

      Watch the last two seconds of that video. It was a flat, front projection onto glass. Nothing more.

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    4. Re:Not a hologram by chihowa · · Score: 1

      A true hologram is produced by recording (and then illuminating) the interference pattern created by coherent light interacting with an object.

      In the vernacular, however, the word "hologram" is used to describe any planar or volumetric "image" that is projected onto "empty space" (where "empty space" is anything that is sufficiently insubstantial, like air, a cloud of water droplets, or even a really really clean pane of glass that you almost can't tell is there).

      You're technically correct (the best kind of correct), but you're tilting at windmills by getting pissed about politicians and the media incorrectly using technical terms. That way lies madness.

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  19. India too? by unixisc · · Score: 1

    India's Narendra Modi trounced the opposition with a campaign that included holograms of his speeches in villages across the country.

    He did? I thought he ran a campaign that was high on constant texting to citizens everywhere, and during the time that he was banned from the US, he used video-conferencing to attend the places he was invited to, but this is the first time I'm reading about him in a hologram image

  20. "private innovation"? by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 1

    According to the wik, "The development of the laser enabled the first practical optical holograms that recorded 3D objects to be made in 1962 by Yuri Denisyuk in the Soviet Unionand by Emmett Leith and Juris Upatnieks at the University of Michigan, USA." Commies and socialized public universities gave us the hologram.

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    1. Re:"private innovation"? by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      The techniques used in this case have nothing to do with holography. It's a reflection of a flat projection.

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  21. Re:Not the first one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's the dumbest thing I'll read today, thanks for "innovating" lol

  22. He's a HobNob by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    HobNob:

    Holographically Originated Being, Negotiating Official Business.

  23. Re:Not the first one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What about your lack of balls to define someone beyond a 1-word label, lol?

  24. Re:Capital, means of production by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    you americans should stop calling someone socialist, unless you understand what socialism is, and what the difference with communism is, and why the USSR was fascist (more examples : see trump), not communist.

  25. In a related news: by LordHighExecutioner · · Score: 2

    It has been discovered that candidate Jean-Luc Melenchon exists only as a hologram. No traces of his life on Earth have been discovered up to now, and he exists just under the form of a computer bot that once in a while interacts with real world through holograms. Further investigations are casting doubts about the reality of other politicians in the world: the lack of connections between politics and world problems is makes a strong evidence for the case. Is the world actually managed by an algorithm ? More at 11.00.

    1. Re:In a related news: by OneoFamillion · · Score: 2

      Damn that Jean-Luc, a man in his position, always playing around in the holodeck...

  26. Re:Not the first one by jandersen · · Score: 1

    Funny how political extremists always seem to be the first to embrace new technologies to further their agendas. Hitler for example used the latest magnetic tape recording technology of his days to appear as if he was doing live broadcast in a city while he was in another.

    Yes, and Trump uses Twitter to redefine reality in a way never seen before. There's definitely a pattern going on there. OMG!! That means Trump must be a Socialist!!

  27. Holography vs. projection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I hoped that this is technical web and the first comment will be about word 'holography' misuse. But all just arguing that some politicians use videocalls for whatever reason.

    To clarify: These are not holograms. Hologram is a capture of light field in given plane. Such recording holds intensity of light (like classical photography) + Phase of the light wave. And yeah we are speking of capturing in units of nanometers per hologram element (like pixel). When reproduced, uniform coherent light (LASER apparently) is casted on that recoding you, as a wacher, have a perception of the scene behind the capture plane as if you would be there with all benefits of real life like stereoscopic vision (depth perception) and looking arround the corner when move a bit or a lot (visibility). You can even rotate your head and won't lost the stereoscopic vision, unlike in 3D cinema. If we assume full colored hologram, it is indistinguishabe from reality. For naked eye and for camera.

    Those politicians are just poor bluescreen capture projected on thin cloth so the rest of the theatre scene is real. This is trick like from the beginings of cinematography just spiced by starwars popularized word [hologram] misuse.

    1. Re:Holography vs. projection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please, why are you saying this when you obviously haven't even investigated what you're saying?

      This isn't the 80's anymore, this one was a real hologram, like what you are describing. It's not anything new either, the innovation here is it was live instead of being a recording.

    2. Re:Holography vs. projection by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      All the holograms I've seen suffer from speckle. That's hardly "indistinguishabe from reality."

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    3. Re:Holography vs. projection by Godwin+O'Hitler · · Score: 1

      He's probably saying it because, like me, he saw "the making of".
      There was a detailed, graphical explanation of the method on French TV by the company doing it.

      It was a back projection. No holography involved at all. "Abus de langage" as the French say.

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    4. Re:Holography vs. projection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My appologies. The "indistinguishabe from reality" phrase is of course the math definition of hologram. I also produced high quality holograms that suffered various problems. It is long run to achieve the "indistinguishabe" quality. However, we can form a scene and take a shot of it that would be indistiguishable from reality. Like white non glossy object lit by red light in a box covered with a glass. If you use the glass as a plane of hologram, then remove the object and lightning and cast red laser on that hologram, the result is so good you would have a very hard time to tell whether the object is under the glass or not. So there are proff it is possible but generaly we are far from it.

  28. What are the odds by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    What are the odds that he claimed two lots of expenses?

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  29. Re:Not the first one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's far left by American standards, but just regular left by French ones.

    The far-left in France is occupied by communists, and those called "socialists" in France (and Europe generally) like this guy or the current president, aren't what Americans call socialists.

  30. Comment On Subject by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Spider Jersualem will sort them out.

  31. Re: Capital, means of production by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    To an American conservative "Socialist" means all the worst parts about the USSR combined with anything they don't like. Actual socialism as practiced in Europe has nothing to do with it. They couldn't describe it even slightly accurately, because that would require genuine knowledge of the subject.

  32. Re:Not the first one by zijus · · Score: 1

    He's far left by American standards, but just regular left by French ones.

    The far-left in France is occupied by communists, and those called "socialists" in France (and Europe generally) like this guy or the current president, aren't what Americans call socialists.

    • The far-left is: NPA (Nouveau Parti Anti-capitaliste) and LO (Lutte Ouvrière) : these are calling for armed revolution, and "grand soir" and so on.
    • Then come : Communists.
    • Then : Left parties : Front de Gauche, Gauche Unitaire, Partis Radical de Gauche, Ecological party. Mélenchon is trying to aggregate from this domain.
    • Then : Socialists (PS) : In France PS is not any more "socialist". It's kinda rubish social-liberal proxy for openly right opinions.
    • Then : Center parties
    • Then : Right...

    So to call Mélenchon a Communist is incorrect. Not only because he is not tagged so, but also for fundamental divergences.

    For example : PC in France keeps promoting productivisme (producing a lot) and internationalism (free movement for workers). While Mélenchon calls extremely loudly for less & better production, and for joint-protectionism : we may exchange things, services and workers but with solidarity. Not at he expense of environment, local workers neither remote. So... see: these are not minor details. On the contrary : it makes Mélenchon's position quite different from extreme left and communists. And it makes Mélenchon's position simply socialist unlike those of PS in France.

  33. Re:Capital, means of production by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At the root "Socialism" here is a tag for someone that will take more money from me and give it to someone who didn't end up with a high paying job in technology.
    Is that definition inaccurate for this candidate?

  34. Re:Capital, means of production by operagost · · Score: 0

    You Europeans should stop thinking that your state-run schools told you the truth.

    I agree that the USSR and Nazi Germany had many things in common. They have little in common with the liberal democratic republic headed by Donald Trump.

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  35. Re:Capital, means of production by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

    American English is a dialect with differences from English elsewhere. If you want to communicate with us, use our language.

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  36. Re:Capital, means of production by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Leftards love to use the word "fascist" but you do not know what it means.

  37. Re: Capital, means of production by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Socialism works in smaller groups, where the populace stays aligned for a common goal and individual contributions are genuinely necessary and appreciated. In a large society, as history has proven time and again, it simply fails miserably when a certain number realizes they can consume more than produce, and the producers in turn notice they're stuck contributing more than is fair. The divide continues to grow until the socialism model deteriorates and ultimately fails.

    Heck, even communism can work in extremely small communities. That is, if the populace agrees with their leader and the leader truly has the best interest of the commune. Scaled up it too fails miserably.

    Leftists love to think they're the brightest, the most well educated, most insightful bunch in America. If that were true, why are they the group bitching about everything yet doing nothing but destroying things in 'protests'? These are people who perceive themselves enduring huge amounts of personal struggle, yet fail to succeed on their own. For every setback or failure, there's always an external influence keeping them from achieving what is "rightfully" theirs. They believe in guarantees, in safety nets, in pacification, and above all admiration for their 'specialness'. The fact of the matter is this type of person tells themselves they can't, so of course they can't. But then it's got to be someone else's fault, because accepting failure means you're a failure, and nobody likes "feeling" like a failure, right? Meanwhile the portion of the populating they denigrate and reject as "inferior", the people they will openly call names and label, are out there building a life for themselves. American Liberals are imploding under the sheer weight of their own bullshit, and it's funny as hell to watch.

    Sincerely,

    One of the labelled :)

  38. And the Celebrity Apprentice by raymorris · · Score: 1

    > t's just flash and bling. But then again, it works for Hollywood celebrities

    Flash and bling worked out pretty well for the Celebrity Apprentice too. :)

    I've noticed that it's very difficult to predict how well a candidate will do once after are elected and become president or whatever. Candidates that look pretty good turn out to be ineffective leaders, candidates that seem unqualified sometimes turn out to be very effective. I hope that pattern repeats in US.

  39. "hologram" as in projection. by Lumpy · · Score: 1

    Not a hologram, It's simply projection onto a surface on the stage. Just like how Gorillaz does their live performances.

    Notice how they made sure NO photos of the projection are shown....

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  40. Re: Not the first one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He is still a communist, an opportunist communist, but still a communist.

  41. A politician eh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That must come in handy for someone used to talking out of both sides of his mouth at the same time

  42. Re:Not the first one by drew_kime · · Score: 1

    You should also look at the /. story today about how the Brexit vote and Trump used psychometric profiles for similar "new technologies make unexpected outcomes happen".

    Which story was that? Not sarcastic, that actually sounds interesting but I can't find it.

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