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French Politician Uses Hologram To Hold Meetings In Two Cities At the Same Time (reuters.com)

neutrino38 writes: The French presidential election is approaching fast. One of the candidates, Jean-Luc Melenchon, used a hologram to hold two public meetings at once. With a political program that is mostly socialist and very left leaning, some people pointed out that he used private innovation to stand out from the crowd. Reuters notes that this is "not the first politician to employ such technology," adding that "in 2014, then-Turkish prime minister Tayyip Erdogan used a huge hologram of himself to attract wider support, while India's Narendra Modi trounced the opposition with a campaign that included holograms of his speeches in villages across the country." You can watch part of one of Melenchon's virtual meetings here.

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  1. WTF Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    some people pointed out that he used private innovation to stand out from the crowd.

    Somebody please explain the significance of selected statement here. Does being a candidate of the Socialist Party mean that one should be coy like a little princess? Isn't that equivalent to using alien technology for a politician?

    1. Re:WTF Time by manu0601 · · Score: 2

      This socialist candidate is not running for the Socialist Party. Many people consider the french Socialist Party is not socialist anymore.

    2. Re:WTF Time by ElRabbit · · Score: 2

      This guy is closer to communist than socialist.To put the thing in perspective, he is hanging around telling that big tech corporation are evil on Earth and he wants to tax robots.

    3. Re:WTF Time by Xenographic · · Score: 2

      I don't get this either. What does a hologram really add here vs. normal people holding a gotomeeting/webex/whatever over 3 different continents regularly?

    4. Re:WTF Time by Imrik · · Score: 3, Funny

      Holograms get press attention.

    5. Re:WTF Time by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Funny

      Does being a candidate of the Socialist Party mean that one should be coy like a little princess?

      Please help me Obi Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope.

    6. Re:WTF Time by zijus · · Score: 5, Informative

      More similar to Lepen. In fact they are close on many subjects, Lepen being extreme right and Melenchon being extreme left.

      Nope.

      To coin it simply : beyond Le Pen on the right side there is... nothing. No other party. So, technically Le Pen is indeed extreme right. Yet the main reason why to tag Le Pen "extreme right" is its fundamental views : ethnic, xenophobic, anti-semitic influences, islamophobic, rather incompetent regarding public policies. These points will be vehemently disputed by this party and Marine Le Pen worked hard to soften the picture. Yet, fundamentally it is correct to state it is extreme-right : it is conceptually and historically. It is also little known yet well analysed this party actually picked-up many political concept from left movement. Yep : you see it is the other way around, Front National try to look acceptable and credible by diverting ideas from the left. Nice tactic isn't it ?! Classic.

      Mélenchon (his movement is currently named "La France Insoumise" or FI or Greek symbol Phi) is a all together different story. Many have a strong interest into shaping this politician as an "extremist" : it would so much easier to discredit him. Yet he is not. At all. That would be as bold as stating Berni Sanders is a dangerous extreme left. Bold and... incorrect. Indeed he severely questions EU and globalisation as also do some... centre party, not only extreme right. That does not make him extreme.

      First item : beyond Mélenchon on the left side in France one can find at least 2 groups : NPA (Nouveau Parti Anti-capitalist) and LO (Lute Ouvrière). So, simply put : no Mélenchon is technically NOT extreme left. Second and more important item : these two party (NPA and LO) are anti-republican (they do not believe in the concept of Republic as a collective type of organisation). They promote armed revolution. Their view is very much labour-class centric. These party (NPA & LO) are technically and conceptually really extreme left. On the other hand Mélenchon promotes an "extreme-republic" (his words) view. He calls for pacific drastic changes in the form of a 6th republic. He cares not only for the labour-class but more importantly for the human-class : the one that is being shredded by necro-liberalism and environmental lunatics. He for example explicitly calls for legalisation on long-term-illegal-workers. He is not maniac about Muslims or other religions (He calls for a clear state-church split. He thinks citizen should believe what they want at home and at church. (He also stresses in France more than 50% is agnostic or atheist)). And so on...

      So Dude wake up ! You may not like Mélenchon or left or far-left or or extreme-left or socialists or your auntie or you name it : fair enough. Yet, you cannot just go banana and disseminate random idiocies. I also notice that for me to give a little context, it takes... this. While for you to libel it is as easy as a one-liner idiocy. This is classic malevolent rhetorical technique : dump a crap-load and force your opponent to waist energy and time on the clean-up. Did that for you.

      Sorry, I don't buy your bullshit.

    7. Re:WTF Time by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Anonymous users of 4chan's /pol/ board are currently trying to influence the French election and get the far right candidate elected. Since most of them don't speak French they are asking French users to help write their copy/paste shitposts so that they can then pull their standard sockpuppet attack on social media.

      It's hard to say how effective they are, but it's also quite worrying. They really have studied that leaked GCHQ guide to social media manipulation well. Hopefully as people get wise to memes and fake news the whole thing will backfire, but it's far from a certainty.

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  2. Who else used holograms? by colinrichardday · · Score: 4, Funny

    Has anyone ever seen this guy and Palpatine in the same room together?

  3. Re:Not the first one by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 2

    Funny how political extremists always seem to be the first to embrace new technologies to further their agendas

    You have survivor bias. An extreme candidate without such an advantage loses and is forgotten. You should also look at the /. story today about how the Brexit vote and Trump used psychometric profiles for similar "new technologies make unexpected outcomes happen".

    That said, I know nothing about this candidate, and have no reason to believe (or disbelieve) he is an extremist.

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  4. Re:Typo by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

    What the hell is copie/pâte?

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  5. Pepper's Ghost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Can we go easy on the word 'Hologram'? This is likely a pepper's ghost effect; as is 90%+ of what's being called a 'hologram' these days.
    It's a neat effect, and the Reuters image reveals a great reference for the setup (particularly interesting lighting rig), but lets reserve the h word for real examples of the phenomenon.

  6. Not a hologram by Solandri · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Marketers seem eager to abuse and misuse establish terms for advertising purposes. First "hoverboard", now "hologram".

    As best as I can tell (TFA is devoid of details), this is a glorified version of the system used at Hatsune Miku" concerts - a simple rear projection onto a glass screen. A slightly more sophisticated version uses multiple cameras surrounding the person whose image is being broadcast, and switches between them depending on where the observer camera is positioned. That creates the illusion that the observer can move around the image in 3D, but the illusion only works for the observer being tracked. Anyone else sees a 2D image which rotates depending on where the designated observer moves, not based on where they themselves move.

    A true hologram is not conveyed as an image. It is conveyed as an interference pattern created by taking a Fourier transform of a 3D light field. When you take another Fourier transform of that interference pattern (e.g. shine onto it coherent light equivalent to the light that originally created the pattern), it reconstructs the original 3D light field - a hologram.

    1. Re:Not a hologram by Trogre · · Score: 2

      That was the capture stage.

      There was no interference pattern from coherent light.

      Watch the last two seconds of that video. It was a flat, front projection onto glass. Nothing more.

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  7. Re:Capital, means of production by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    you americans should stop calling someone socialist, unless you understand what socialism is, and what the difference with communism is, and why the USSR was fascist (more examples : see trump), not communist.

  8. In a related news: by LordHighExecutioner · · Score: 2

    It has been discovered that candidate Jean-Luc Melenchon exists only as a hologram. No traces of his life on Earth have been discovered up to now, and he exists just under the form of a computer bot that once in a while interacts with real world through holograms. Further investigations are casting doubts about the reality of other politicians in the world: the lack of connections between politics and world problems is makes a strong evidence for the case. Is the world actually managed by an algorithm ? More at 11.00.

    1. Re:In a related news: by OneoFamillion · · Score: 2

      Damn that Jean-Luc, a man in his position, always playing around in the holodeck...

  9. Holography vs. projection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I hoped that this is technical web and the first comment will be about word 'holography' misuse. But all just arguing that some politicians use videocalls for whatever reason.

    To clarify: These are not holograms. Hologram is a capture of light field in given plane. Such recording holds intensity of light (like classical photography) + Phase of the light wave. And yeah we are speking of capturing in units of nanometers per hologram element (like pixel). When reproduced, uniform coherent light (LASER apparently) is casted on that recoding you, as a wacher, have a perception of the scene behind the capture plane as if you would be there with all benefits of real life like stereoscopic vision (depth perception) and looking arround the corner when move a bit or a lot (visibility). You can even rotate your head and won't lost the stereoscopic vision, unlike in 3D cinema. If we assume full colored hologram, it is indistinguishabe from reality. For naked eye and for camera.

    Those politicians are just poor bluescreen capture projected on thin cloth so the rest of the theatre scene is real. This is trick like from the beginings of cinematography just spiced by starwars popularized word [hologram] misuse.