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Samsung Factory Fire Caused By Faulty Batteries (theguardian.com)

A fire that drew out 110 firefighters and 19 trucks to a factory operated by Samsung Galaxy Note 7 battery supplier, Samsung SDI, was caused by discarded faulty batteries, the company has said. From a report: A "minor fire" broke out Wednesday in a Samsung SDI plant in the northern Chinese city of Tianjin and had to be extinguished, according to local emergency services. The fire was contained to a part of the site used for waste processing, including faulty batteries. There were no casualties or significant impact on the operations of the plant, although the local fire department was called, said a Samsung SDI spokesperson. The Wuqing branch of the Tianjin fire department said on Sina Weibo that the "material that caught fire was lithium batteries inside the production workshops and some half-finished products."

71 comments

  1. Yo dawg by subk · · Score: 5, Funny

    I heard you like fires, so we put a fire factory in your factory

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    1. Re:Yo dawg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Somehow, this reminds me of that time that someone fed industrial spies fake capacitor formulas leading to that epidemic of bad capacitors some years back.

      Are Samsung engineers just bad at battery design, or was there something more in play here?

    2. Re:Yo dawg by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      Are Samsung engineers just bad at battery design, or was there something more in play here?

      I am betting on insurance fraud...

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    3. Re: Yo dawg by bobmajdakjr · · Score: 1

      its the song that never ends... yes it goes on and on my friends...

    4. Re:Yo dawg by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 2

      Somehow, this reminds me of that time that someone fed industrial spies fake capacitor formulas leading to that epidemic of bad capacitors some years back.

      Are Samsung engineers just bad at battery design, or was there something more in play here?

      I remember dealing with this issue, it got heavy around 2000 and stayed alive for as long as I worked in PC repair. You had to check everything, video card, MoBo, PSU, and any other component with caps on it. I understood it to be a good job of industrial espionage followed by a bad job of industrial espionage... a copy and paste error was the explanation I heard at the time.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague#Implications_of_industrial_espionage

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    5. Re:Yo dawg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, they had to put all the recalled 7's somewhere...

    6. Re:Yo dawg by magarity · · Score: 1

      Are Samsung engineers just bad at battery design, or was there something more in play here?

      It's in Tianjin. You may recall last fall a couple of warehouses exploded and killed 100 or so and injured who knows how many. Cause: inadequate material handling and storage. Apparently that just means the payments to safety inspectors went up.

    7. Re: Yo dawg by dougdonovan · · Score: 0

      they need to quit buying cheap shit to put in their phones. samsung has become so walmartish.

    8. Re:Yo dawg by Khyber · · Score: 1

      The politically-incorrect term for that is Jewish Fire Sale.

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    9. Re:Yo dawg by b783719 · · Score: 1

      So you can explode Note 7 while you explode Note 7.

    10. Re:Yo dawg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was not the actual story of the bad capacitors. An employee ( industrial spies) stole an incomplete formula for water based electrolyte.

    11. Re: Yo dawg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember a lot of Dell Optiplexes having that issue back then.

  2. Were they holding them wrong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That joke almost fits.

    1. Re: Were they holding them wrong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol. Lets put all these unstable batteries in a big pile!

  3. Dell engineers relieved. by jpellino · · Score: 2

    Film at 11.

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  4. Discarded Headphone Jacks by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

    I guess you can't start a fire from disposing of Headphone jacks incorrectly.

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    1. Re:Discarded Headphone Jacks by itsme1234 · · Score: 1

      What about headphones with batteries?

  5. New Flash - giant hole appears in China by ripvlan · · Score: 0

    Giant fire that can't be put out bores hole through earth to Pacific ocean. China fills with water.

    1. Re:New Flash - giant hole appears in China by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      Do the Chinese always joke that they can dig a hole all the way to America?

    2. Re:New Flash - giant hole appears in China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ocean water would collect at the core of the earth, creating massive steam clouds and solidifying the earth's outer core in the process (the inner core is already solid). This would shut down the geomagnetic dynamo, allowing massive clouds of solar radiation to reach the earth's surface and sterilizing the planet of all life, including humans.

    3. Re:New Flash - giant hole appears in China by omnichad · · Score: 1

      So you can dig that deep and instead of a volcanic eruption, water falls into a giant empty hole? I'm not buying that.

    4. Re:New Flash - giant hole appears in China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Joke? No. They actually do it using child labor.

    5. Re:New Flash - giant hole appears in China by suutar · · Score: 1

      Could be. The antipode of Tianjin is in Buenos Aires, Argentina...

    6. Re:New Flash - giant hole appears in China by NatasRevol · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Interesting that it's solid, not liquid, iron because of the pressure, even though it's ~5000F.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    7. Re: New Flash - giant hole appears in China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please don't let Al Gore read this thread....

    8. Re:New Flash - giant hole appears in China by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Joke? No. They actually do it using child labor.

      We need to build a wall under America to stop the Chinese from sneaking into the US that way.

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    9. Re:New Flash - giant hole appears in China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We need to build a wall under America to stop the Chinese from sneaking into the US that way.

      Great, before we could at least tunnel out of the damned prison, now they are building a CONTAINER to put 'Merria in.... On second thought, do you take cash or credit?

    10. Re:New Flash - giant hole appears in China by ripvlan · · Score: 1

      Well, I don't know. But Americans say they can dig a hole to China. So I guess I should have worded it as "hole appears in America" --- but I know that digging through the USA won't get you to China (unless you go very sideways).

      Or it appears in DC and swallows up everything - setting fire to the President's lying pants :-P (liar liar pants on fire)

  6. Hashtag Irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NT

    1. Re: Hashtag Irony by shortscruffydave · · Score: 1

      I think it's actually lithiumy

  7. Karma by kkoo · · Score: 1

    Nuff said.

  8. Can there be anything more Funny? by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 5, Funny

    The jokes just write themselves, don't they?

    1. Re:Can there be anything more Funny? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow dude, you're on fire today!

    2. Re: Can there be anything more Funny? by mmell · · Score: 2

      Not redundant, recursive.

  9. Methinks that Samsung. . . by Salgak1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    . . .may have a new product line in the offing: Note7 Incendiary Grenades. MUCH better than Aperture Science Incendiary Lemons.

    And 110 firefighters and 19 trucks is a **MINOR** fire ??

    1. Re:Methinks that Samsung. . . by lq_x_pl · · Score: 2

      Well, relative to the Tianjin fireworks a couple years back, this barely even registers as a fire.

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    2. Re:Methinks that Samsung. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Factories with explosive growth!

    3. Re:Methinks that Samsung. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm a firefighter, but not a firefighter where there factory is, so I don't know their SOGs. A small fire in an apartment building in an average city standing at first alarm will get one or two engines plus a ladder truck, each with a crew of 5 or perhaps 6 depending on the truck seating configuration. Each level of alarm after that will add two or three trucks, depending on command call for assistance. I can't imagine an SOG that would call for 19 trucks for less than 5 alarms, even at a hazardous site like a battery factory - definitely not a minor fire. The largest fire I was ever at personally was a lumberyard which went to 6 alarms and ultimately was fought by 90 firefighters in 22 trucks.

    4. Re:Methinks that Samsung. . . by grep+-v+'.*'+* · · Score: 1

      And 110 firefighters and 19 trucks is a **MINOR** fire ??

      That was actually my first thought -- but if it really IS a minor fire, then (a) they're bored, and (b) it gives them a valid excuse to get out (c) and socialize and (d) watch two guys actually put out a fire.

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    5. Re:Methinks that Samsung. . . by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      . . .may have a new product line in the offing: Note7 Incendiary Grenades.

      Too late, someone has already thought of that.

    6. Re: Methinks that Samsung. . . by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      but not a firefighter where there factory is...

      If you were a firefighter in China, you wouldn't know how to spell "there" incorrectly. ;)

    7. Re: Methinks that Samsung. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you were an asshole everywhere....oh wait.

    8. Re:Methinks that Samsung. . . by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      And 110 firefighters and 19 trucks is a **MINOR** fire ??

      Quite possibly. The strength of the response is often related to the possibility of escalation not the actual size of the fire. If you're a facility handling hazardous chemicals then the response is huge even if a smoke detector is simply set off by a cigarette. I remember a refinery I worked at, 12 firetrucks showed up one evening. No fire, just a wet-gas compressor tripping due to a faulty flow transmitter resulting in excessive flaring. But people over the hill saw the glow in the sky and assumed there was a fire at the refinery, the fire department assumed that meant the refinery was burning down and they sent everyone available on that night shift.

    9. Re:Methinks that Samsung. . . by hey! · · Score: 1

      Well, a fire at a lithium battery factory may be one of those things that has the potential to escalate faster than you as an incident commander can escalate your response.

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    10. Re:Methinks that Samsung. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am an engineer who has worked in China. One standing joke was "what do you call a Greyhound bus with a box on the back?" A pickup with a crew cab.

    11. Re:Methinks that Samsung. . . by Tintivilus · · Score: 1
  10. will the shipments have armored trucks as isis or by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    will the shipments have armored trucks as isis or others may want some old note 7's.

  11. Obligatory xkcd quote by LordHighExecutioner · · Score: 1

    Here, it seems designed right for this!

    1. Re: Obligatory xkcd quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just what we need, smoke alarms powered by Samsung batteries.

  12. Fire! by thunderclees · · Score: 0

    So we heard you like fire so we put fire in the factory that makes the battery that puts the fire in your phone.

  13. They probably overloaded... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...the iRONY circuits, they are only rated for up to one giga-nelson...

  14. Good thing the poster didn't read the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If they had, they'd have seen that

    "[the] material that caught fire was lithium batteries inside the production workshops and some half-finished products"

    Doesn't sound like discarded waste to me.

  15. Which factory is this? by avandesande · · Score: 1

    Is this where they were disarming all the Note 7's the customers returned?

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  16. Samsung is a company on fire by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 1

    They are going to blast the competitors with all those explosive devices that they come up with. Why, my money is already burning a hole in my pocket.

  17. makes you wonder by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    Anyone else wonder how they shipped all these phones and batteries back to the factory in the first place? What carrier would agree to transport them?

    1. Re:makes you wonder by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      Didn't Samsung send out fire resistant packaging to put the defective devices into prior to shipping?

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  18. Samsung is so hot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The product is literally exploding off the shelves before it ever gets packaged.

  19. Maybe Trump is behind it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Samsung, you're fired!

    1. Re:Maybe Trump is behind it by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Samsung, you're fired!

      Somebody took it literally

  20. Man in Tree by SeattleLawGuy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes, that's one of several things going on here. A fire at the Samsung factory is *interesting*, so more first responders show up. Seattle had a man climb a tree downtown and they had dozens of people involved--but it's a guy in a tree occasionally throwing pine cones. People showed up because it was a diversion, not because they needed more people.

    Second, responses to commercial properties tend to be somewhat faster and definitely more staffed than responses to individual homes. The potential for massive damage to inventory or danger to the public is usually significantly greater (especially in retail spaces). Something big like a Samsung factory might also bring substantial money into an area, and losing factories has a ripple effect in a community.

    Third, if you hear you have a potential chemical fire at a factory and you don't know how big it is yet, you WANT to err on the side of caution and have all of the capability there that you need, and then some.

    Fourth, if you had a Samsung factory in your country, mightn't you want to use it for espionage?

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    1. Re:Man in Tree by ArylAkamov · · Score: 1

      I miss TreeKing, it was a pretty fun event.

  21. Industrial espionage/sabotage? by erapert · · Score: 2

    Hypothetical:
    You're a smartphone manufacturer who wants to unseat Samsung.
    All you gotta do is capitalize on the PR fiasco surrounding the Note 7.
    Just slip a guy into the factory who sets off a fire.
    Now you've just magnified the Note 7 fiasco into a... firestorm... and Samsung loses a huge amount of mindshare and thus markshare.
    For a very low cost you gain some room to grow.

    I expect some Chinese phone maker to suddenly start launching cool products and eating Samsung's lunch.

  22. Re:Slashdot is gay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm hoping for snappy uniforms.

    Trump! Trump! Trump!

  23. Divert Attention by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What better way to say that the Samsung Note 7 was never the problem, than for a bunch of batteries to catch fire on their own... Samsung can just say - look, the Note 7 is not the problem - we are great designers...The batteries are the problem...

  24. Tomorrow's headline by ravnous · · Score: 1

    Fire At Landfill Used To Dispose Of Faulty Samsung Batteries

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  25. It was my staplar!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I schaid I was cerious this time and I'd burn down that place. The batteries were convenient. Next time they won't fuck my paystub. GTG, my pina colada is here and there is some sweet bikini babe that needs to ask me something... Peace bitches!

  26. Fire sale??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Was this a Galaxy 8 fire sale ? Damn, I missed it!!!

  27. Real problem with Note 7? by mschaffer · · Score: 1

    Samsung suggested that one of the problems with the phone was that they did not leave enough space in the phone for the batteries to expand. So, what happened here? I doubt that Samsung was disposing of the phones with the batteries.
    Hmmmm....

  28. Exploooosion! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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