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Republicans Are Reportedly Using a Self-Destructing Message App To Avoid Leaks (theverge.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Verge: Trump administration members and other Republicans are using the encrypted, self-destructing messaging app Confide to keep conversations private in the wake of hacks and leaks, according to Jonathan Swan and David McCabe at Axios. Axios writes that "numerous senior GOP operatives and several members of the Trump administration" have downloaded Confide, which automatically wipes messages after they're read. One operative told Axios that the app "provides some cover" for people in the party. He ties it to last year's hack of the Democratic National Committee, which led to huge and damaging information dumps of DNC emails leading up to the 2016 election. But besides outright hacks, the source also said he liked the fact that Confide makes it difficult to screenshot messages, because only a few words are shown at a time. That suggests that it's useful not just for reducing paper trails, but for stopping insiders from preserving individual messages -- especially given the steady flow of leaks that have come out since Trump took office. As Axios notes, official White House business is subject to preservation rules, although we don't know much about who's allegedly using Confide and what they're doing with it, so it's not clear whether this might run afoul of those laws. It's also difficult to say how much this is a specifically Republican phenomenon, and how much is a general move toward encryption.
The @POTUS account retweeted his Nordstrom tweet, so yes. Plus Kellanne Conway was busy telling people to "Go buy Ivanka's stuff."
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Actually they are. Records must be kept for presidential libraries.
Actually they are. Records must be kept for presidential libraries.
Baloney. The Presidential Libraries acts of 1978 and 1986 allow government records to be transferred to Presidential Libraries, but they do not require presidential communications to use only government channels, or even to be recorded at all. That would require a constitutional amendment.
On a related note, the White House FOIA page is currently unavailable. So much for requesting transcripts of all Trump Administration business done over Confide (just for shits and giggles since there's no chance they'd, you know, comply with the law or anything).
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
One is a non-profit helping people around the world. The other is a for profit helping the President's daughter. How are you blind to this difference?
Time makes more converts than reason
Still feeding the fake news and alternative facts I see. Sorry, you can't rewrite history. If you voted for President Pedophile, you voted for someone who lies and has no problem breaking the law, and if you did it because he made up a claim that his opponent broke the law all the worse. Kelly-Anne Conway just broke the law on Fox News last night by advertising for Ivanka Trump, but I don't see Republicans punishing her either. Most federal employees in the past get suspended or fired for what she did last night, but President Pedophile and Republican controlled congress are the only ones with the ability to punish her, and I don't see either doing anything. President Pedophile actually defended her after she broke the law.
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The Clinton e-mails are one of the biggest lies Republicans, Breitbart, and Fox News told. Nothing was really deleted. Hillary first sent one copy of the hard drives to a law office and had them sort between all the personal stuff and professional stuff. They "deleted" the personal stuff off that copy of the data before handing it to the FBI. The FBI said that wasn't sufficient and issued a subpoena for all the data including the personal data. Then she handed a copy of all the data including the personal stuff. Once requested, the FBI got everything. The quote from the FBI was about "deleted" e-mails was that there were about a dozen business e-mails that hadn't been included with the first set of business e-mails handed over. There wasn't any crime, because nothing was actually deleted. The FBI also decided that the missing ("deleted") e-mails was not criminal because there was no evidence that it was done intentionally and there was nothing incriminating in them (incorrectly sorting 0.1% of the e-mails was probably accidental). It's not like we are talking about paper copies where there is only one copy of the papers and she shredded them. There were multiple copies of the data on different hard drives and backups.
Rice had her aides use personal e-mail accounts to send e-mails for her. Powell used a private e-mail account (believed to be AOL) for his secretary of state e-mails. Republicans only had a problem with Clinton doing the same thing Republicans had done. They also leave out that she requested a secure e-mail option from the NSA twice and was rejected; the NSA told her to send e-mails from her office computer when she spent most of her job traveling. She was just trying to do her job.
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Bill, that's just not true.
Further, courts since Nixon have upheld this provision of the law. Presidential records must be preserved. As Sean Spicer would say, "period".
Now, presidents have issued executive orders attempting to countermand this provision (Reagan, Bush I and Bush II), in an effort to circumvent it and to keep their evil-doing secret for as long as possible, but as recently as 2007, the courts have said, "Nah, fuck that". If you want to keep something from the public, you better classify it. That's how we got to the point where so much of what our government says and does is classified. The recent discussion of Trump's horribly botched raid in Yemen is an example of this. We know the target was missed, we know 30 civilians died (including an 8 year-old girl), we know that a Special Services soldier died and an aircraft was lost, but when asked why the administration was calling the raid a great success, the answer was, "It's classified".
You are welcome on my lawn.
He flirts and hits on 10-15 year old girls regularly (often enough that there are multiple tapes of him doing it). He liked walked in on underage teenage girls naked changing and bragged about being the only man allowed to do it on the Howard Stern show. He had his staff try to encourage the underage teenage girls that were naked to flirt with him saying they were more likely to win the contests if they did. He talked about wanting to sleep with teenage girls on the Howard Stern show. In my opinion, that makes him a pedophile.
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These are records that have been created, the fact that they're subsequently illegally destroying them does not make the records any less created. If they don't want to created public records, then they shouldn't create public records.
Deleting things after the fact is what got Nixon run out of office. Considering the shady shenanigans that we've seen out of the GOP the last few years, I can only imagine how bad the stuff is that they don't want the public to see. Stealing a SCOTUS nomination was pretty low.
You are on Slashdot. You should understand deleting one copy of data isn't actually deleting it when other copies exist. You are doing exactly what Trump, Fox News, and Brietbart did by using the term "deleted" when referring to one copy of the data to imply that data was lost. The first sentence was a misquote. I said "Nothing was really deleted" because other copies of the data existed; thus no crime. When handing over the business only data Hillary was very clear about what had been done and that she had a law office sort the data.
There is no cover-up or conspiracy here. Republicans managed to make one out of thin air. I do have to credit them with managing to convince so many Americans that a crime was committed when one wasn't.
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FYI your top source is banned at Wikipedia for making things up
A pedophile is attracted to a person under the age of 14 years, that is, someone pre-pubescent. In many respects, he was an employer of these teen girls and his behaviour was blatant sexual harassment and even 'grooming for sex': Serious crimes in any country.
By the way, someone attracted to teenagers is called an Ephebophile; since breasts don't arrive with a "do not open" sticker, that means a lot of people treat naked teens as adults. If you complain about that, then you should be complaining about the prick-teasing clothes sold to teen girls too.
What was actionable: The 150+ Emails containing classified information that were on her unclassified private server. Each email constitutes a count of either failure to protect/negligent mishandling or intentional security compromise. Both charges are felonies, the first though has no requirement of Intent. Each count is worth 5 to 10 years in Prison and $10,000 or higher fine. How is that for actionable and quantifiable "what"?
Everybody entrusted with classified information is held to the same legal standards, many a lessor person has faced decades in Jail for such a crimes. She could get lucky and be charged with the negligent mishandling charges for all the emails she sent. (she is not liable for emails sent to her that might have contained such info, but then the FBI should be going after whoever sent those to her), but as Classified information, is stored on physically separate networks and machines, the act of transferring the data, especially the Top Secret info that was on some of the emails, is a deliberate act so she should face the slightly more severe deliberate security compromise charges.
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Comey lied when he said that. Mishandling classified information via negligence is still a felony that has no intent requirement. The act of being negligent with classified information is a felony crime.
Please cite the actual ties to Russia that you claim Trump has. He's complimented Putin a few times for being a real leader as opposed to Obama. But I've seen no evidence of any actual ties.
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USC 18 793. Her crimes specifically fit sub paragraphs (e) or (f). If (e), it's often referred to as deliberate security compromise, if (f) it's failure to protect/mishandling of Classified Information. (f) is most likely to be charged as it requires no intent. You mishandle classified information, you have violated this law.
Both (e) and (f) carry a fine of up to $10,000 and a sentence of up to 10 years. She should face a count for each email sent from her account. For any emails containing classified information originating from someone else, that person faces the same charge and she could face another count of (f) for failure to report a violation.
The law is clear the penalties are clear and those punished for such crimes? Many, some much more egregious as hers due to being intentional attempts to spy. But here is a list of some so prosecuted for violating this law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage_Act_of_1917#Soviet_spies.2C_late_20th_century
If you continue from that point down to the 21st century you find Kenneth Wayne Ford, who never transmitted to an unauthorized person but simply retained classified information. I have a much more detailed list of individuals convicted at home but am at work currently.
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https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793 (paragraphs e and f) Marked or unmarked is irrelevant. As is intent. She signed a SF 312 Non-Disclosure agreement that outlined quite clearly her obligation to protect the classified information she was entrusted with due to her position. Your claims of alternate facts are the only thing Alternate. Everyone granted a security clearance signs the same NDR form and faces the same penalties for failure to comply. And as per 18 793 (f) intent does not matter, negligence is still a crime.
Others have addressed your falsehoods about deleting the emails.
Now that we have a new AG, I expect charges to come soon. Though the super citizen protections she seems to enjoy might still prevent them.
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Sen. Joe Manchin III (D-W.Va.) criticizing Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.).
Or
Kerry's terrible speech were criticized by a number of Democratic lawmakers, including incoming Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-NY., as well as Sens. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., Ben Cardin D-Md., Chris Coons, D-Del., Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., Chris Murphy, D-Conn., House Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer, D-Md., and Reps. Rep. Eliot Engel, D-NY. and Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla.
Or
Democrats in New Jersey's Monmouth County have taken issue with a press release made by gubernatorial candidate Assemblyman John Wisniewskiâ(TM)s campaign last week.
do you need more? There are lots more.
'Liberals' are acting like brownshirt fascists sense the election. I see no criticism from their 'side', just excuse making.
I am so tired of Conservatives that do not know what a facisit is or what a communist is, or what a socialist is. Hint: Those are not words you use just because you don't like what someone has to say. Words have power. Words wound. The blatant proof if that is Edi Amin DaDa. Hitler. Stalin. Ceausescu
Your sides willingness to accept blatant criminality from Hillary along with cover from Obama's executive branch, makes you a big fat liar.
Hmm. I don't recall President Obama being investigated for any crimes. I do happen to have lost count of the more than 13 congressional investigations of Secretary and First Lady Clinton. Can't seem to recall any actual convictions, though I do recall the last Bengahzi investigation cost 12.7 million dollars. I don't remember what each of the previous other 12 investigations cost, but I'm sure it wasn't significant. I do recall that there has never, not one, been a conviction. Even in a hyper partisan Republican investigation.
You should wait a year or so before making such outrageous claims,
As my grandmother used to say, "If a shirt is dirty, it's dirty." In other words, if something isn't right, waiting a year or more to criticize it is hardly going to make it any less wrong.
people's memory is bad, but not that bad.
No, some refuse to live on planet consensus reality. For example, President Trump's repeated claims that Mr. Obama was not eligible to be president, repeated claims that his inauguration had the biggest crowds ever, and that there were more than five million fraudulent votes cast in the 2016 election.
Look, I'm happy that you are happy that you "got your guy". I get the fact that if any Democratic party member suggests even the most brilliant idea ever articulated by a human being that Republicans will instantly denounce it as a fraud, a scam, and a crime. I get that. I also get the reverse of that is true. What I'm saying is that it has come to the pass that the US can no longer afford this partisan folly. If we do not stop it, the US will not be the best place in the world to live. And President Trump is going to make that fall happen. It may not be complete, but it started two decades ago, and it's speeding up.
Time to put the adult pants on and get the foolish petty politics out.
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.