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Twitter Announces (More) Hate-Speech Fighting Tools (Again) (cnn.com)

Building on anti-harassment tools announced in November, Twitter is now "trying to shake its reputation as a haven for online harassment" with still more new internal algorithms and features, reports CNN. An anonymous reader quotes their report: The changes include preventing serial abusers from creating new accounts, a new "safe search" function and blocking potentially abusive and "low-quality" tweets from appearing in conversations, Twitter's engineering chief Ed Ho said in a blog post. Twitter is working on identifying users that have been permanently suspended and prevent them from creating new accounts, Ho said. This new measure specifically targets "accounts that are created only to abuse and harass others," he said, a problem that has long plagued the platform.

The new safe search function prevents tweets that are abusive, or from blocked and muted accounts, from appearing in users' search results. Those tweets can still be found if people want to see them, but they "won't clutter search results any longer," Ho said. And Twitter will now collapse tweet replies that are potentially abusive or low quality -- like duplicate tweets or content that appears to be automated. But those tweets "will still be accessible to those who seek them out," Ho said.

The blog post announces Twitter's ultimate goal is "a significant impact that people can feel," arguing that freedom of speech for all viewpoints is "put in jeopardy when abuse and harassment stifle and silence those voices."

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  1. lets look to the past by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    âoePolitical correctness is America's newest form of intolerance, and it is especially pernicious because it comes disguised as tolerance. It presents itself as fairness, yet attempts to restrict and control people's language with strict codes and rigid rules. I'm not sure that's the way to fight discrimination. I'm not sure silencing people or forcing them to alter their speech is the best method for solving problems that go much deeper than speech.â

    and

    "Political Correctness is fascism pretending to be manners"

    - George Carlin

    1. Re: lets look to the past by aevan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Political Correctness" is believing "Coloured People" is racist, but "People of Colour" is respectful.

    2. Re:lets look to the past by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I've heard it referred to as "the tyranny of the politically correct."

      I don't envy Twitter....they want to allow free speech, but they also want to suppress the pointless static and harassment that takes place. The problem is that one person's free expression of ideas is another person's harassment, and it's hard to be impartial.

      Everything is fine until the trolls and griefers outnumber the normal users by 10 or 20 to 1... then it all becomes a shit show.

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    3. Re: lets look to the past by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Which group is asking for 'safe spaces'. Which group is trying to silence the other? If you think it is what you call 'conservatives' you are willfully blind or have not been paying attention for the past year or deliberately trying to be a fool.

      You assume I do not want to debate you. On the contrary. I just use your own words against you. You can not pick a stance that is logically defensible. I have a *large* library of so called liberal people saying things that bolster my conservative positions. Your positions are merely hallucinations of cognitive dissonance. You refuse to even consider that your own position causes the very issues you seek to fight.

      "All Democrats are insane, but not one of them knows it; none but the Republicans and Mugwumps know it. All the Republicans are insane, but only the Democrats and Mugwumps can perceive it. The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane." - Mark Twain

      I get the feeling he had little love for politics. But it isn't conservatives that decided to edit Huckleberry Finn.

    4. Re: lets look to the past by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Stupid smelly indo-chimps and sand n1ggers are parasites that suck all juice out of america.

      These monkeys didn't care to build their own countries and now they migrate to not build america. Fucking common sense.
      Exterminate indo-chimp parasites.

      This is the kind of freeze peach that alt-right snowflakes want to protect. Their right to tip the punch bowl, molest the family dog, and shit on the floor without being told that they're not welcome at the party any more until they know how to behave.

      And when someone makes a social media platform that promises that it's OK to tip the punch bowl, molest the family dog, and shit on the floor (gab.ai), they say, "No, we want to be at the Twitter party, or nothing, because shitting on the floor isn't fun unless someone gets upset". This is why nobody gives a good goddamn about their complaints.

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    5. Re: lets look to the past by ClickOnThis · · Score: 2

      Everyone has a colour, though. Except Goths.

      Technically, [whiteface] goths have all colours. But the rest of your point stands.

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    6. Re:lets look to the past by quantaman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      âoePolitical correctness is America's newest form of intolerance, and it is especially pernicious because it comes disguised as tolerance. It presents itself as fairness, yet attempts to restrict and control people's language with strict codes and rigid rules. I'm not sure that's the way to fight discrimination.

      This isn't about restricting or controlling people's language or fighting discrimination, it's about stopping harassment.

      Consider criminal law, assuming you don't care about safety or property or anything besides freedom, then what do you want for a set of laws?

      The easy answer is anarchy, but that's wrong because under anarchy a strongman will come in and take your freedom. The laws that give you the most freedom are also going to protect your safety and property, because if others are free to threaten you then you don't have freedom.

      The same applies to speech, giving people the freedom to harass gives them the power to silence.

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    7. Re: lets look to the past by buss_error · · Score: 2, Insightful
      This is ultimately because the right is deeply ashamed and guilty

      I don't think that is correct. My feeling is that the alt-right is more like the cowardly bully looking behind themselves and blathing "Right, guys!?" in an attempt to cast their broken, intolerant, stark terror of change as a strength and mob approved, rather than the pathetic weakness and fear that it is.

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    8. Re: lets look to the past by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 2

      But it isn't conservatives that decided to edit Huckleberry Finn.

      They'd probably just burn it. Much easier than all that reading and writing stuff that would be needed to edit it.

      As for silencing people, didn't Steve Bannon just tell the press to "keep its mouth shut"?

      More to the point, your arguments are incomplete. Both sides are guilty wanting "safe spaces" because the other side is (at least a little) intolerant and is trying to silence the other side. Trump voters want safe spaces on college campus 'cause Liberals are "mean to them", and Liberals want them to avoid hateful, racist, homophobic speech and other things they don't want to hear -- of course, College is the place one is supposed to be exposed to things that challenge and foster independent thought.

      Lastly, Liberals would rather Conservative stop calling them "snowflakes" for expressing their concerns because, seriously, if *anyone* is a snowflake, it's Trump himself and those around him.

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    9. Re: lets look to the past by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      Except that Twitter actually allows super sick shit. Like literal Islamic Terrorist recruiting and PR accounts.

      Good try, but no. Here's an article from a year ago about Twitter shutting down 120,000 ISIS accounts.

      https://www.theatlantic.com/in...

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  2. Doomed by Wuhao · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Twitter wants to have it both ways: it wants to have a big room where they can put in all the liberals and conservatives, all the Islamists and Zionists, and have them talk about whatever is happening in their world... and then it wants them all to get along. It doesn't work that way.

    To put it more technically, Twitter's problem is that, as a social network, it reflects a connected graph of hundreds of millions of people. A lot of those people aren't going to like each other very much. Now they're making themselves responsible for the safety of their users, and that does two really bad things:

    1) It announces that Twitter is presently an unsafe platform, and
    2) It puts them in the middle of whatever fight any two people might have, equipped with no tools to resolve the underlying conflicts that drive those fights, and only their own subjective morals (with all the attendant biases those bring) to resolve them.

    Twitter is at war with itself here.

    1. Re:Doomed by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Twitter wants to have it both ways: it wants to have a big room where they can put in all the liberals and conservatives, all the Islamists and Zionists, and have them talk about whatever is happening in their world... and then it wants them all to get along. It doesn't work that way.

      If Twitter's actions of late are any indication, it would be more accurate to say that it wants to put everyone in a big room where only the SJW/liberal voices are allowed to talk and everyone else sits quietly out of fear of being banned like Milo.

      There is no such thing as one-way freedom of speech. If you're telling someone else that their speech is hate speech and therefore not allowed, you're ultimately hurting your own freedom just as much as theirs. As Robespierre could warn you, the rules and laws you make to oppress others today will be turned against you tomorrow.

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    2. Re:Doomed by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      You naively believe that there's a separation between those who control the media and those who the media controls.

      Nobody controls the media. You are welcome to go over to Breitbart or Stormfront or gab.ai or whatever fetid underbelly of the Internet the alt-right is currently using.

      Breitbart is media. They even have a White House correspondent. You are welcome there and have the same potential to be heard there as you would on twitter, except there's no character limit.

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    3. Re:Doomed by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      Are you trying to argue that Twitter doesn't need to participate in a homosexual "wedding" if they don't want to?

      Twitter has to allow homosexuals to make accounts. They'd have to bake a cake if homosexual customers came in and asked for a cake (and if twitter were a bakery). But they don't have to host the wedding on their site or be the maid of honor if they don't want to.

      Now this is where you get to pretend you don't see the distinction. Proceed.

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  3. Hate Speech by _KiTA_ · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Let me give you an example of "Hate Speech" that I have been harassed and attacked over saying, including on this very website.

    "There are only two genders. Male and Female."

    Which pretty much sums up the problem with fighting "hate speech." The regressive left has co-opted and twisted the meaning of the already meaningless term "hate speech" -- along with other terms like "racism" or "nazi" -- to the point that they've lost all semblance of meaning.

    But "Twitter announces more [UnAmerican Political Censorship] tools (Again.)" doesn't have the same kick to it, I guess.

    1. Re:Hate Speech by Z80a · · Score: 2

      Sorry, he can't read your answer because he got banned by twitter.
      Now he will go elsewhere, spread his message around and then ten of those people will come and say the same thing.

    2. Re: Hate Speech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Ars Technica recently banned over 30 users because they referred to Bradley Manning as "him". No trolling, insults, or even hostility. Just using the wrong word.

      SJW is a mental illness and a plague. They are fascists in the literal meaning of the word.

    3. Re: Hate Speech by Cederic · · Score: 2

      Some people use 'him' to describe Chelsea Manning and their intentional use of the term is hostile and indeed trolling in itself.

      Bradley Manning is more complex.. Technically he was representing as male, so I'd call him 'him'. Chelsea though is a no-brainer. Just use female pronouns with her.

      That's a courtesy some people seem to find beyond them though. I can understand Ars Technica choosing to remove rude trolls from their site.

  4. The real brownshirts propagate on Twitter by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Insightful

    After banning (and shadowbanning) quite a lot of Trump supporters, it seems like the Brownshirt alliance of Anti-Trump fascists is now only allowed to persist, but to prosper.

    Ask the people in Berkely who just wanted to hear Milo Yannopolis speak but were assaulted with flagpoles instead just who are the violent brownshirts of today...

    But I guess you consider it OK to beat women with flagpoles because they are just Trump supporters, right?

    Watch that video, I dare you to come back and say that Trump supporters are the brownshirts.

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  5. Re: Left and further left by hackwrench · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I recently came to learn what Left and Right used to mean, and when that definition is applied, the main difference between what the so-called left and right is what they want the government to tell the people they have to do. Right apparently used to mean that a person didn't want the government telling people what to do.

  6. Point proven by _KiTA_ · · Score: 2, Informative

    "There are only two genders. Male and Female."

    Disproved by genetics. Your own science disagrees with you. You must be some kind of ignorant idiot. Go educate yourself.

    Ignoring your textbook SJW stupidity... (Genetically XX and XY are the two genders. Everything else is a birth defect.)

    See everyone? Point proven.

    1. Re: Point proven by _KiTA_ · · Score: 2

      Birth defect? Who decided what was a birth defect and not an evolutionary trait? I say you and your entire backwards good old boy conservative species is a birth defect. Do I win because you demonstrate yourself to be?

      Every life form on the planet that reproduces sexually has two genders. Male and female.

      Humans are a life form that reproduces sexually.

      We have two genders.

      Male.

      Female.

      No amount of semantics will change this fundamental fact of our species. You can argue what it means to be male and female -- that's healthy and everchanging -- but trying to make up stupid bullshit like "agender" or "thirdgender" is completely pointless.

    2. Re: Point proven by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Funny

      Umm... your point being?

      Yes, there are animals that can change their gender. In the end, you still have two distinct genders among them. They don't create a new gender that does ... what exactly during procreation? Watch and rate the act?

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  7. What will SJW allow? by AHuxley · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Blasphemy reporting about a faith or cults reaction to cartoons? No cartoons posted, links to cartoons? SJW approved news sites about cartoons that might show cartoons then also get banned?
    Communist party officials don't like been reminded of any terms surrounding Tiananmen Square and the use of numbers like 1989?
    Whats left on the site that teams of SJW approve of?
    Celebrities posting about events or their new projects? Only happy movie reviews are allowed by teams of SJW?
    Governments posting "fictional" accounts of tourism in their repressive nations?
    No mention of human rights issues or import/export deals to support wars?
    SJW approved officials promoting their city or town projects can be helped to trend?
    People posting real news or comments about such policies are removed and reported to their own governments?
    Everyone fun or interesting expecting freedom of speech and freedom after speech will just follow the fun people to real US sites offering real freedoms.
    Been banned and reported on by gov workers from other nations, by SJW and other groups does not make interesting people want to stay with any brand offering social media.
    Censorship by a SJW in the name of a faith, gov, political party is not a selling point that attracts users.

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  8. Re:limitations of the platform by hackwrench · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I was writing a lengthy response that contained observations and conjectures about social media, when I hit upon one important factor. For some reason YouTube and Twitter seem to have sort of "media darlings", and that factor more than any other seems to indicate whether harassment happens.

  9. Re: The funny thing about protection... by hackwrench · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't really care for the content of that post to be protected, but I know that if I start drawing lines, it will only encourage people to draw lines that endanger speech that I think should be protected.

  10. Well.. by s.petry · · Score: 2

    Twitter allows you to follow and block people. That alone seems like "Free Speech" to me. I don't believe you gain much by 140 characters and links, and quite frankly never thought it would be as popular as it is. I thought it would be Nagios channels for everyone who needed it. That said, you don't have to read things you dislike and can sign up for things you like.

    Twitter got into trouble by blocking Free Speech. Many people stopped using it or went on the offensive because of Twitter blocking people who Twitter's board and execs didn't like politically. People banned from Twitter were all of the same political view. Same crap as we see on campuses with claims of "violent speech" so that physically attacking people and damaging property are justified, "violent" and "hate" speech were used to justify banning people. Death threats, calls to violence, calls to riot, and personal attack abound targeting conservatives. Twitter laughs them off as "those people are just joking". They have continued to ratchet up the political blocking instead of looking at why their platform has turned to crap. Twitter is extremely averse to ban people who are abusive on the left.

    Yeah yeah, Twitter is not the Government so they don't have to protect first amendment rights and all that. Food for thought: Remember when a teenager went to jail for saying on Facebook that he'd like to shoot President Obama? Well how many people have gone to jail for threatening to shoot Trump exactly?

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  11. Death threats against Trump are fine by walterbyrd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think there is still an #assassinatetrump tag.

    Thousands of such threats are posted all the time.

    On the hand, Twitter has recently disabled the account of a cartoonist, with 1.3 million followers, because he offended a feminist.

    Any kind of anti-white hate is fine. Okay for Muslims to post hateful tweets against Jews, or anybody else, but it is not okay to offend Muslims.

    1. Re:Death threats against Trump are fine by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why do you never post links to these incidents? Which cartoonist are you referring to? There was the fake news about that Trump-as-a-baby cartoon being banned, maybe that?

      When you look at these cases in detail, they are never as simple as "Twitter banned someone for ideological reasons" or "because a feminist was offended". As usual, my .sig applies.

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  12. Re: The funny thing about protection... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't really care for the content of that post to be protected, but I know that if I start drawing lines, it will only encourage people to draw lines that endanger speech that I think should be protected.

    Oh, it's protected. It's just not protected in my fucking house. Or in Twitter's fucking house.

    And the person posting that does not have a right to demand there are no consequences. Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.

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  13. Escalation of Terms to Justify Censorship by Kunedog · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Disagreement is now harrassment.
    Mockery is now hate speech.
    Offense is now trauma.
    Criticism is now abuse.
    Compelling criticism is now violence.
    Anyone who talks about subjects the MSM wants to suppress is now a troll.
    Anyone at random is a racist/sexist/white supremacist/nazi/etc if they say so.

    The use of this alarmist (and usually, simply wrong) language is ubiquitous and deliberate. It's all a pretense to justify a disproportionate censorial "response," especially when they know no response is warranted at all. It's also a brazenly transparent tactic, especially since Twitter/Reddit/etc rarely seem to use it against users that properly align with their politics.

    This video is an excellent illustration of how the media lies about "online abuse" (and how even the crumbs that are true are exaggerated for false impact):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    P.S. It's also entertaining as Hell cuz Milo's a riot.

    1. Re:Escalation of Terms to Justify Censorship by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Insightful

      He's so full of self hate now that he's even become homophobic?

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    2. Re:Escalation of Terms to Justify Censorship by Shane_Optima · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They aren't even listening to what they're saying any more. I repeatedly heard that Trump was dangerously transphobic after he said openly that he wouldn't have a problem if Caitlyn Jenner wanted to use the womens' restroom in one of his buildings and also saying that he's in favor of letting the states decide on transgender laws (which sure, that's not ideal, but for a Republican that's as good as it gets.) And Majiid Nawaz and Tarek Fatah get called out for being Islamophobes. And yes, a gay jew who has black boyfriends is routinely labeled a homophobic, white supremacist Nazi.

      I had some faint hopes back in November that this would be a time of reflection for the left, but I guess Trump is just too good of a troll.

      This is going to end badly. People rejoicing now at a "leftist version of the Tea Party" are in for a rude awakening. The American left can't out-stupid the right. They're just going to end up alienating most of the centrists and intellectuals that are usually on their side.

  14. Re: Left and further left by PSXer · · Score: 2

    If the government doesn't get to tell people what to do, why even have a government? Just let people do whatever they want and see what happens.

  15. Re: Left and further left by ClickOnThis · · Score: 2

    Liberal: "Hey, let's try this new thing!"
    Conservative: [sound of door being slammed] "Sorry, we're closed now."

    -- Steve Martin

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  16. Re: Left and further left by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Right means conservative. Left means liberal. Conservative means "let's do the things we have always done." Liberal means "let's change how we do everything"

    That has never really been true, and it certainly isn't true today, when many liberals want go back to the social policies of the 1960s and the economic policies of the 1950s.

    I think the main difference between right and left is not the policies, but the justification for the policies. The right justifies their policies by saying they are good for the country, while the left says their policies are good for the citizens. The actual policies are not that different. Donald and Bernie have much more in common with each other than either has with moderates.

  17. Re: Left and further left by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Donald and Bernie have much more in common with each other than either has with moderates.

    If you truly believe that, then you have your head up your ass.

  18. Re:Strange days. by Orgasmatron · · Score: 2

    Nope, sorry. You already lost that argument when your side bankrupted a bakery that tried to implement "my business, my rules".

    We've read Alinsky too, and we are perfectly happy mocking you for failing to live by your own rules.

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  19. Re: Left and further left by buck-yar · · Score: 3, Informative

    1791 - The Democratic-Republican Party is formed by James Madison and Thomas Jefferson against Alexander Hamilton’s Federalist Party. The Democratic-Republicans strongly opposed government overreach and expansion, the creation of a national bank, and corruption.
    1804 - Andrew Jackson purchases the plantation that will become his primary source of wealth.
    1824 - The Democratic-Republican Party split. The new Democrats were supported by Andrew Jackson and Martin Van Buren, and the National Republicans were supported by John Quincy Adams and Henry Clay.
    1828 - Andrew Jackson is elected President of the United States.
    1830 - Andrew Jackson signed the Indian Removal Act, whereby the Cherokee and other native tribes were to be forcibly removed from their lands.
    1831 - Cherokee Nation v. Georgia, whereby the Supreme Court ruled that Cherokee Nation was sovereign and the U.S. had no jurisdiction over Cherokee lands. Andrew Jackson had already started to enforce the removal of the Choctaw.
    1832-33 - The Whig Party is formed in opposition to Jackson’s government expansion and overreach in the Nullification Crisis and the establishment of a Second National Bank. The Whig Party successfully absorbs the National Republican Party.
    1838 - Many Indian tribes had been forcibly removed. Under Jackson, General Winfield Scott and 7,000 soldiers forced the Cherokee from their land at bayonet point while their homes were pillaged. They marched the Cherokee more than 1,200 miles to the allocated Indian territory. About 5,000 Cherokee died on the journey due to starvation and disease.
    1854 - The Whig Party dissolves over the question of the expansion of slavery. Anti-slavery Whigs and anti-slavery democrats form the Republican Party with their sole goal being to end slavery.
    1861 -The election of President Lincoln spurs the beginning of the Civil War.
    1862 - Lincoln writes a letter where he declares he wishes to preserve the union regardless of the morals on slavery. He issues the Emancipation Proclamation, whereby all slaves in Union territories had to be freed. As states came under Union control, those slaves too had to be freed.
    1863 - Frederick Douglass, former slave and famous Republican abolitionist, meets with Lincoln on the suffrage of emancipated slaves.
    1864 - Lincoln revised his position on slavery in a letter to Albert G. Hodges stating “If slavery is not wrong, nothing is wrong.”
    1865 - Confederate General Robert E. Lee surrenders at the Appomattox Courthouse to Union victory. After Lincoln’s Assassination, Democrat President Johnson issues amnesty to rebels and pardons the slave owners of their crimes.
    1865 - The 13th Amendment which ended slavery passed with 100% Republican support and 63% Democrat support in congress.
    1866 - The Klu Klux Klan is formed by Confederate veterans to intimidate black and Republicans through violence, lynching, and public floggings. They gave open support to the Democrat Party.
    1866 - The Civil Rights Act of 1866 is vetoed by Democratic President Andrew Johnson. Every single Republican voted and overturned the veto.
    1868 - The 14th Amendment which gave citizenship to freed slaves passed with 94% Republican support and 0% Democrat support in congress. The first grand wizard of the KKK, Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest is honored at the
    1968 Democratic National Convention.
    1868 - Representative James Hinds who taught newly freedmen of their rights is murdered by the KKK.
    1870 - The 15th Amendment which gave freed slaves the right to vote passed with 100% Republican support and 0% Democrat support in congress.
    1871 - The violence of the KKK grew so savage that congress passed the Enforcement Acts to repress their influence.
    1875 - Democrat Senator William Saulsbury speaks out against the Civil RIghts Act of 1875, claiming it will allow “colored men shall sit at the same table beside the white guest; that he shall enter the same parlor and take his seat beside the wife and daughter of the white man, whether

  20. FTFY by s.petry · · Score: 2

    Unfortunately for you, a majority of SJWs are racists.

    SJWs calling conservative black people "Uncle Tom" (Larry Elder, Ben Carson), calling Asian conservatives "Traitors to their race" and "Self hating $*&@" (Michelle Malkin), etc.. has been normalized by the left. They are a religion, and has become far more dangerous to the US than other Religions. Hell, the Westboro Baptist Church was 16 wackos yelling slurs at people and was demonized by Media and largely ignored. The Left has exponentially more people and the Media treats them like heroes.

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    -The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.

  21. A large enough minatorily matters by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    Oh, so we're judging ideologies by how a minority of supporters behave?

    We do when the majority it does not condemn, and mostly cheers violent action... it was not a minority of people cheering on that "nazi punching" video. That's all great until people realize you are the Nazi... good luck with what you have normalized and deemed acceptable.

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  22. Huh? by s.petry · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Arbitrary? Really?

    You either have XX or XY chromosomes in every cell of your body if you are a normal human. Even if you go through hormone therapy and sexual re-assignment surgery your cells contain the same chromosomes.

    Everything else is a birth defect and considered a syndrome. (Turner's syndrome, Klinefelter's syndrome, etc..)

    Like you are doing, that group you mentioned in the 1930s didn't like science much either when it hurt their ideology. Your pathetic appeal to emotion does not counter facts.

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    -The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.

  23. Re: Left and further left by racerx509 · · Score: 4, Informative

    You seemed to have left out the Southern Strategy and the War on Drugs, which went a long way towards splitting the parties.

    Conveniently towards the end of your timeline, Nixon during his 1968 campaign appealed to many dixiecrats who were upset about the passage of the civil rights act, stating it was a form of government encroachment on their lives. This in turn led to a party shift where former dixiecrats turned republicans and in time, the former republicans turned progressive. Once the parties flipped, you've got the War on Drugs for the 1970s and 1980s that heavily criminalized communities of color and anti-war liberals. Or as John Erlichman said it "We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news,"

    Blacks, who were outright demonized by the right, turned to the left, which accepted them because who would not turn down the free vote. The left still treats black voters in a passive-agressive manner, knowing they can reliably count on the black vote, but the relationship is not as antagonistic as what is seen on the right.

    So many right wing people love to crow about how Republicans freed the slaves and were responsible for most progressive legislation early on in this country. All that is true, but the conveniently leave out the part where Nixon and Lee Atwater flipped the parties, and when both Reagan and Bush used race based fear mongering to further drive the republican base whiter and more conservative.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/23/...

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  24. Re:The same biased Wikipedia? Riight. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

    Don't take Wikipedia's word for it, follow the links to the two references and read them yourself.

    In fact, why not just ask Milo himself on Twi... Er, where ever she shitposts these days. He won't deny it, he's quite open about his views.

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