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Michael Flynn Resigns As Trump's National Security Adviser (go.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from ABC News: President Donald Trump's embattled national security adviser Michael Flynn, who faced questions about a call to the Russian ambassador prior to the inauguration, has resigned. Retired Army General Keith Kellogg was named acting national security adviser to replace Flynn. ABC News reported Monday that Flynn called Vice President Mike Pence on Friday to apologize for misleading him about his conversation with the ambassador in November. Flynn previously denied that he spoke about sanctions the U.S. imposed on Russia for its suspected interference in the 2016 election, a claim repeated by Pence in January. An administration official later claimed Pence was relying on information provided to him by Flynn. In his resignation later, Flynn cited the "fast pace of events" for "inadvertently" briefing "the Vice President Elect and others with incomplete information regarding [his] phone calls with the Russian Ambassador." You can view Flynn's full resignation letter, as provided by the White House, here.

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  1. So much winning... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is everybody tired of winning yet?

    General Michael Flynn's tenure as NSA adviser is the shortest in US history (24 days). The previous record-holder was 348 days (Reagan's first NSA director). And I guarantee that Reagan's NSA director didn't resign because he was too cozy with and taking money from the Russians.

    So much for "extreme vetting", I guess.

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  2. Re: Whipslash? A suggestion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nerds care about politics when it's this fucked up. Therefore political news is nerd news.

  3. Re:Peaceful transition Obama DOJ gets revenge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, let's see. On the one hand, we had a known philanderer playing "hide the cigar" with his intern. It was the worst-kept secret in Washington; you can't blackmail someone with something everyone already knows. On the other hand, we have a National Security Adviser forced to resign because he himself is a threat to national security. This, after engaging in back-door negotiations with America's competing superpower, and leaving some actual kompromat in the wake of his Moscow visits.

    Yes, totally equivalent situations. ::eyeroll::

  4. Re:slashdot == political paparazzo tabloid by mmell · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Never have we had a President that was so hilarious before. I mean, really - first off, the guy's complexion looks like he's covered in santorum. His pithiest answer to any criticism is name-calling (which seems to be about as well as any of his sycophants can do). He apparently hasn't lived on Earth lately - or at least, has no clue what's really happening here. He's surrounded by people who can't differentiate reality from fiction (and no, calling them "alternative facts" doesn't make them true). His idea of a personal Viet Nam experience was avoiding STD's (not sure how well that went - they guy acts like he has syphilitic dementia).

    I'd go on, but I really suppose I ought to leave the rest up to SNL.

  5. For the US, not for a political party by myid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I voted for Trump, because I can't stand the Clintons. I'm not for Trump, or for the Republican party. I'm for the US - I want good government.

    So even though I agree with most of Trump's positions, I'm glad that the Democrats and the press point out the ways that Trump messes up, like selecting a national security adviser who can be blackmailed. We have to correct problems like that.

    1. Re:For the US, not for a political party by dbIII · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I voted for Trump ... I want good government

      So how's that working out for you?
      Given that it took less than week for him to violate the Constitution how do you rate your chances on getting to vote again?

    2. Re:For the US, not for a political party by mjwx · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I voted for Trump, because I can't stand the Clintons.

      Everything you said after this was bullshit.

      You didn't vote for Trump because he was more qualified. He wasn't.
      You didn't vote for Trump because he had better policies: He didn't.
      You didn't vote for Trump because he was a more stable candidate: He wasn't.
      You didn't vote for Trump because he wasn't dangerous: He is.
      You didn't vote for Trump because you want good government: He was always the worst candidate.

      You voted for Trump because you hated something else. Don't pretend he was the better candidate, every act and objective measure demonstrates that to be false. At least be honest, you voted for him because you care more about seeing your team win politics than about your country.

      You are what is broken in a democracy.

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    3. Re:For the US, not for a political party by MobyDisk · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Since you are the first potentially rational Trump supporter, I honestly want to understand your positions. Do you want a wall between the US and Mexico, and if so, why? Do you want to forgive Russia for the annexation of Crimea? Let's see..what else.... do you support ending the child care tax credit? Do you believe in global warming?

    4. Re:For the US, not for a political party by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I voted for Trump, because I can't stand the Clintons. I'm not for Trump, or for the Republican party. I'm for the US - I want good government.

      So even though I agree with most of Trump's positions, I'm glad that the Democrats and the press point out the ways that Trump messes up, like selecting a national security adviser who can be blackmailed. We have to correct problems like that.

      You voted for a racist motherfucker who spearheaded the Birther movement, why that God-awful racist attempt to delegitimize the first African-American president of the United Status. Since it was no longer fashionable to call Obama a n*, the best option was to call him a Muslim (as if that was a bad thing) born in Kenya (which was patently false.) And Trump spearheaded that, to deny an US born American citizen his birthright of being, you know, a US born citizen.

      And this ape went on to call Judge Curiel, a US born judge, a "Mexican", questioning Curiel's ability to do his job because his parents were Mexican.

      A man who to this day blames those poor black guys known as the Central Park Five for a crime they did not commit.

      A man who stated the majority of illegals were murderers and rapists, with some he magnanimously assumed, being good people.

      A man who pretty much promised a Muslim ban, a ban based on faith.

      That man, Trump, is a fucking bigot (or played one for the bigoted masses, of which there is really no difference.)

      And you looked the other way and voted for him.

      That's who you are.

  6. Re: I'm sure he had nothing to hide by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There is no need to placate the Russians. They have a GDP lower than Italy and their military power is a shadow of what it used to be. Yes, they have nukes, but they, like all the other nuclear powers, have no intention to use them other than to maintain territorial integrity. So the real issue here is why Trump seems so keen to placate Russia, when the US's military and economic might literally dwarfs Russia's abilities.

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  7. Emails by friedman101 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Remember when like 70% of slashdot thought that it was a good idea to put this buffoon in power because Hillary was too "establishment" and was a dumbass about classified emails?

    Any regrets yet?

  8. Re: I'm sure he had nothing to hide by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So the real issue here is why Trump seems so keen to placate Russia, when the US's military and economic might literally dwarfs Russia's abilities.

    That is a really backwards way of looking at it. We do indeed have all the power in the bilateral relationship, but how should we use that power? The Russians are a very paranoid people, who think the whole world is out to "get them". By trying to push them down, we are playing into their paranoia, and making them turn inward. But the end result will not be good. They are going to keep Crimea and Donbas no matter what. So should we accept that and move on to other issues? Or should we try to "punish" them, and end up with a frozen conflict and instability in Ukraine, and continued military tensions with Poland and the Baltic countries, while the war in Syria goes on and on, and more and more refugees pour into Turkey and Europe? The Russians have had a bad couple decades, and they feel like the West, and especially America, is bullying them. Treating them with some respect may go a long way. This is not a zero-sum relationship.

  9. Re:Time to start the pool on #PresidentTweety? by dbIII · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Trump's not senile. He just never grew up and has been a whining trust fund baby his entire life.

  10. Yeah he should have just said "of course we talked by raymorris · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah I agree the problem is lying about it. He's the incoming national security advisor. He should have said "yeah, I talked to the Russian ambassador, and I'm preparing my recommendations and report for the President based on those discussions". Just blow it off as doing his job, albeit prematurely, before the inauguration.

    In theory he might have violated the Logan Act, but in
    200 years nobody has ever been prosecuted under the Logan Act (one person has been indicted). As a member of the incoming administration's foreign policy team, it's not *that* weird that he would talk to diplomats from other nations and start getting to them and their positions.

    Not that I'm saying it was hunky-dory to have those conversations at that time, but he certainly could have made it seem like no big deal, if he didn't lie about it.

  11. Re:That's not why he resigned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Fake news had a very specific meaning, which is propaganda consisting of outright lies masquerading as real news to influence public opinion in a given way. We're not talking about traditional media (many people now believe the majority of the MSM are "fake news", which is in itself a triumph of fake news) We know most of it comes out of Eastern Europe, and is supporting Russian moves to destabilise and break apart the west. And it appears to be succeeding. You'll notice I've not mentioned Trump even once in that, because this story has been around for a couple of years *before* the US elections, and I've been following it. What the alt-right has done is taken the term "fake news" when applied correctly to articles supporting their cause, and turned it around to mean "any news I don't like", be it real or fake.

  12. Re: I'm sure he had nothing to hide by skam240 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Jesus, you could pass for Chamberlain in a heart beat.

    "So yeah, Germany has had it rough lately and isnt getting any respect (the The Treaty of Versailles was not kind to them). So what if they invaded a few countries? Let's just pretend we all didnt see it and know that nothing bad could possibly come from just letting Germany invade a little bit."

    I'm sure anyone living in the Baltic states felt very reasured by your post.

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  13. Re:Okay - that was quick. by admin7087 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, let's face it. The real problem is that neither Flynn not Bannon are remotely competent national security advisors, neither is Rex Tillerson a sufficiently unbiased foreign minister (in the light of past attempts to secure billion dollar oil deals with Russia), or Betsy DeVos a competent education minister, not to speak of the abominable choice of attorney general. Despite all this partisan chatter and division, Republicans should be able to realize that there are plenty of Republicans or independents with higher integrity who would have been better suited for these posts. I feel sorry for guys like McCain who nowadays have to worry about their own folks more than about the opposition.

  14. Re:Okay - that was quick. by Billly+Gates · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Tea Party did the same to Obama. Remember those angry townhalls to block health care which ultimately handed the houses to the same Republicans today? They cried against executive orders. Now they have no problem with them and are outraged Democrats are doing the same back

  15. Re:Okay - that was quick. by neilo_1701D · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is like a presidency on amphetamines.

    This is like a presidency at amature hour.

    The really stupid thing is that for all the shaking-up that has been done to world leaders, the One China policy remains; Israel is still scolded; refugees are still being accepted; and there is no replacement for Obamacare on the horizon. For all the bravado, he has achieved nothing at the cost of the US's image and brand. Put another way, far from being the anti-Obama he portrayed himself to be, he has arrived at exactly the same policy positions.

    The #1 thing he could do right now to show some statesmanship is to get to California, stand by the Oroville Dam and declare US infrastructure be his priority. Forget the Great Wall of Mexico. Here is a genuine crisis that is symptomatic of a deeper problem, and here is a genuine crisis handed to him on a silver platter. He want to build? Build. He wants a short-term sugar high on jobs? Employ people to build. Yes thre is a cost; but what the heck; borrow the money. He could probably borrow enough to do most of this work and still be able to say he didn't raise the national debt as much as Obama did.

    But instead, he tweets about Nordstrom and how unfair they are to Ivanka.

  16. Re: I'm sure he had nothing to hide by JoshuaZ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The difference is how recent the event is. And that's important. A major reason the last 50 years have been relatively peaceful is that post World War II a general norm has been established that taking territory based on revanchist claims is not acceptable. The events by Russia seriously undermine that norm.

  17. Replace it... with what? by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...And, sorry, Obamacare actually *is* something to oppose. It's amazing how many of my friends lost their insurance and are now paying double or triple for less coverage. And this was all fully predictable to anyone paying attention....

    I would think it would be prudent to wait to hear what the politicians who are cancelling it tell us what they are going to implement instead.

    So far, it's a pig in a poke-- they're saying "we'll come up with something much much better, trust us, it will be great"-- but they don't seem to have any idea what this "better" system is going to be or how it will work.

    Sorry, but I'm skeptical: I want to see some details before I'm convinced.

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    1. Re:Replace it... with what? by kqs · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Right. I mean, I can imagine those Republicans are so stupid that they'll come up with something and then say "duh, but, der, we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it". That'd be just like a stupid Republican, amiright?

      I love that quote; it's an easy way to separate idiots from people who care about facts. Intelligent people listen to the two sentences before it and realize what Pelosi was saying. Idiot partisans just assume it means "we won't show you what's in this bill before we pass it, neener neener", and of course never look deeper because they're idiots.

      I encourage you to look up the whole quote. Then think about where you first heard about this quote, and ask yourself why they lied about the meaning, and why you accepted it. Also ask yourself if listening to that source is a good idea. You won't, but since this country would be better off with fewer sheep and more thinkers, I feel that I should at least encourage you.

  18. Re:Okay - that was quick. by b0bby · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's amazing how many of my friends lost their insurance and are now paying double or triple for less coverage. And this was all fully predictable to anyone paying attention.

    Can you elaborate on this? I'm truly curious, because most of the times I've come across stories of people blaming Obamacare for rising costs, it turns out that they weren't actually using Obamacare and that their increases were pretty much in line with the trend which has been going on for decades. Are these people who were using high deductible plans which were phased out, or did their employers drop coverage, or what?

  19. Re: I'm sure he had nothing to hide by Fire_Wraith · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm pretty sure we don't need to worry about the Baltic states invading anyone.

    As to why we should worry about someone (Russia or otherwise) invading the Baltic states, do I really need to explain why we believe that countries shouldn't be allowed to just invade other countries? That's the core reason WW2 was fought, and why the UN was created - to basically outlaw aggressive war. Yes, I realize that hasn't eliminated war entirely, but every conflict fought since then has at least made some sort of excuse of operating within the UN framework. We do not want to go back to the pre-1914 world order where might makes right.