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Microsoft Launches Outlook.com Premium Email Service, Costs $20 Per Year (thurrott.com)

Posted by ryuzaki0 on from the paying-for-emails dept.

Outlook.com Premium email service, which Microsoft began testing in October, is now available to all. You get the following features with this paid service, via a report: Outlook.com Premium provides a number of useful features: (1) Custom domain support for five users.

(2) Information sharing: Outlook Premium helps you easily share calendars, contacts, and documents (via OneDrive) between those five users.

(3) Ad-free inbox: Like Ad-Free Outlook.com, Outlook Premium offers no "banner ads" for a "distraction-free view of your email, photos, and documents."

81 comments

  1. Hmm, marketing dept confusion on the value add? by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, when you hear the Ad people talk it's "we add value by presenting opportunities for consumers" and the deep data mining is justified with "we use data to target unique ads that will delight our users"... ... and now we have a payment plan to not have ads. Admitting "yeah, ads suck so much people will pay us not to show them" Not that MS still won't datamine the crap out of you in other contexts though.

    1. Re:Hmm, marketing dept confusion on the value add? by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Just because they're not showing ads in your e-mail inbox doesn't necessarily mean they're not data-mining you to use information collected about you from your e-mail inbox.

      For example, contents of your e-mail in gmail might be used to target ads against you outside of gmail as your browse the web. I don't use Outlook today, but the ads in Gmail are very minimal, such that, I don't notice them. However, I do notice that ads in my web browser have come from things triggered by e-mails I receive.

      I'd pay to get rid of having data from my e-mails saved to target ads to me- actual ads in my e-mail provider though is almost nothing and not worth paying to get rid of. It's not the ads I mind- it's the fact they're data-mining my e-mail in the first place.

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    2. Re:Hmm, marketing dept confusion on the value add? by Wootery · · Score: 1

      It's not the ads I mind- it's the fact they're data-mining my e-mail in the first place.

      Agree. If I were going to pay for email, I'd want strong assurances.

      Corporations now have such a hard-on for data-mining, they'll likely do it even if it doesn't actually generate revenue.

    3. Re:Hmm, marketing dept confusion on the value add? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We add value by waxing lyrical. Anyone want a crunchy frog?

    4. Re:Hmm, marketing dept confusion on the value add? by number17 · · Score: 2

      Outlook.com supports the encryption tools (S/MIME) that can be used to prevent data mining.

    5. Re:Hmm, marketing dept confusion on the value add? by Penguinisto · · Score: 1

      In that case, I suspect this service is for the rubes, then... or does the ad injection happen in the emails themselves, out of reach of AdBlock/uBlock/etc?

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    6. Re:Hmm, marketing dept confusion on the value add? by OzPeter · · Score: 1

      Just because they're not showing ads in your e-mail inbox doesn't necessarily mean they're not data-mining you to use information collected about you from your e-mail inbox.

      I'm scared to think what MS has mined out of my hotmail account. The one I use for (you know) non-professional email conversations.

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    7. Re:Hmm, marketing dept confusion on the value add? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They forgot
      4. We will be saving and data mining all email sent through the new premium Outlook service and will claim that we are only collecting telemetry to improve the service. Later on we will create a web console so that you have the illusion of having some control over what we collect. Of course the web console will actually do nothing at all.

      Sound familiar? This will be companion spyware to Windows 10!!

      Only Micro$haft would expect people to be stupid enough to actually pay for spyware on their own computers!!!

    8. Re:Hmm, marketing dept confusion on the value add? by s1d3track3D · · Score: 1

      I suspect this service is for the rubes

      This is great news, time to migrate from my current beloved, trusted email service yahoo to outlook.

    9. Re:Hmm, marketing dept confusion on the value add? by ljw1004 · · Score: 1

      I'd pay to get rid of having data from my e-mails saved to target ads to me- actual ads in my e-mail provider though is almost nothing and not worth paying to get rid of. It's not the ads I mind- it's the fact they're data-mining my e-mail in the first place.

      You "would" pay? Then do so!

      With Office365 for Business their advertised rate is $5/month for one user. You can use your own domain. It's their business product, so there's no data mining. What I and my family have found nice is that, being standard Exchange, it's well supported by most mail apps.

      (I'm a bit confused about the price though... I'm paying $8/month/user for "Exchange Online Plan 2" to get completed unlimited email storage, and I'm paying $4/month/user for "Exchange Online Plan 1" for my parents. But the Office365 website quotes $5/month/user with a 50gb capacity limit.)

    10. Re:Hmm, marketing dept confusion on the value add? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's their business product, so there's no data mining

      My, my, aren't you a trustworthy soul.

      What makes you think the first automatically excludes the second ?

      Money is money you know, and making an extra buck by double-dipping isn't really uncommon in commercial circles.

    11. Re:Hmm, marketing dept confusion on the value add? by zugmeister · · Score: 1

      I'd bet data mining a business would be different from data mining an individual. Imagine what you'd get if you data mined email to a company that made commercials. How about a reseller or an importer? Then comes the question of how do you know who in a company to advertise to. And of course you've just shit all over your own brand by abusing it. I'm not saying it couldn't be done and I'm by no means defending MS, but wouldn't it be easier for them to just charge a reasonable price for their service and leave all the data mining to the free / nearly free stuff?

    12. Re:Hmm, marketing dept confusion on the value add? by smokescr · · Score: 1

      Hi Oswald, I work on Outlook.com and just wanted to clarify that Microsoft and Outlook.com does not mine your email content to offer up content-based ads unlike other email services you mentioned. You can find that commitment here: https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-US/ "No content-based targeting: We will not use your email, chat, files or other personal content to target ads to you."

    13. Re:Hmm, marketing dept confusion on the value add? by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Great! Thanks for the update- that is very useful to know!

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  2. Connected accounts (for the poor) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Custom domain support already works if you use email forwarding ("connected accounts") and use the SMTP server of your domain provider. It feels like a native custom domain and the end-users can't see the difference (even when you check the headers).

    1. Re: Connected accounts (for the poor) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you do this, then you generally have to pay your domain provider for the forwarding service. I'd say it's better to pay one provider than two. Also there is only one vendor to complain to when something isn't working. If you have two, they can just blame each other when things aren't right.

    2. Re: Connected accounts (for the poor) by Ravaldy · · Score: 1

      Why?

      One is an expert at domains while the other is an expert at emails. I've never had trouble with dealing with separate domain and web/email providers. The setup is so simple that someone with little domain knowledge can set it up.

  3. Too late by The-Ixian · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I waited for quite a while for this service to become available.

    I really wanted the multi-domain support without having to buy a business edition O365 plan which would then come with all the business versions of the apps.

    Instead, I found fastmail.com and I haven't looked back. I am super pleased with those guys and I am glad I didn't wait.

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    1. Re:Too late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have also been super pleased with fastmail (been a paying customer for three years now); but, I'm looking for an alternative when they disable their plain html web interface this summer.

    2. Re:Too late by Ravaldy · · Score: 1

      Been using Rackspace.com.
      $1 per POP3/IMAP and their support is very responsible. I can actually vouch for them as we have 50+ email boxes with them and we've only had 1 hours of down time in 7 years.

      We are however looking at migrating towards Exchange. I really don't want to but the hosted exchange servers are far too expensive for our user count.

    3. Re:Too late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not just run your own? Even a sub $100 mini-computer can handle 50 users with ease. Then you have fine-grained control of everything to make it exactly what your business needs. Do you not have anyone on staff that has the skills?

    4. Re:Too late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not just run your own?

      Hardware/hosting cost. Time cost of installation/configuration/keeping software up to date. Time cost of dealing with spam (you are _not_ as good as a professional host). Time cost of dealing with fucktard blacklist nazis. Time and money cost of having a proper backup and DR plan in place.

      Et cetera, et cetera.

      It might be worth it if you think the NSA really cares about your subscription to newsletter@midgethorseporn.biz, but frankly, with backbones almost certainly compromised, they already know.

    5. Re:Too late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The shit I'm *not* as good as a professional host - I get MAYBE one spam email every other month. Of course, I'm also careful about who actually GETS my email address, and then I make sure I use different addresses for many companies so that when one of my addresses gets "out in the wild" it can be easily corrected without having to update my entire contact list.

      What I find hilarious about this is that Yahoo! tried the same thing about 15 years ago and we can see how well that worked for them (they were leveraging POP access of course, but essentially the same service).

      For those of you that trust "just because", you're idiots.

    6. Re:Too late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even a sub $100 mini-computer can handle 50 users with ease.

      I really doubt there's any such thing as a sub $100 minicomputer.

    7. Re:Too late by atomlib · · Score: 1

      I've been using domain.yandex.com and still can't find anything better. Even paid mail servers have less features.

  4. First post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seems like a solution using a problem.

    No real sysadmin is going to use a $20 a year account just to (maybe) rely on onedrive. You're either rolling your own exchange server or renting email from google or office 365.

    1. Re:First post by Penguinisto · · Score: 1

      Seems like a solution using a problem.

      No real sysadmin is going to use a $20 a year account just to (maybe) rely on onedrive. You're either rolling your own exchange server or renting email from google or office 365.

      TBH, in a small enough operation you can skip even that... a simple Postfix/Dovecot/Spamassassin rig with IMAP enabled will do the job just as quickly, and for far less money (the entire thing can be parked on an old cast-off *nix server with a decent amount of disk space, or on a small AWS instance if that's how your small business rolls.)

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    2. Re:First post by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

      >> thing can be parked on an old cast-off *nix serve

      Unless email's just for fun at your business, you'd probably want a little more reliability than that.

      >> small AWS instance

      By the time you consider that, you're probably >$20/month for <=5 users.

      Trust me - the people setting cloud pricing know about alternative solutions, and $250/year for reliable small-business email is essentially market price right now.

    3. Re:First post by InvalidsYnc · · Score: 1

      Mom and pops that know they need/want email that's more robust than something they could do themselves with their lack of technical know how, and don't have a geek to help them out (and not talking about Geek Squid), will probably be interested in something like this. Not everyone is smart enough to roll their own.

    4. Re:First post by sglewis100 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Seems like a solution using a problem.

      No real sysadmin is going to use a $20 a year account just to (maybe) rely on onedrive. You're either rolling your own exchange server or renting email from google or office 365.

      It's 1 domain, $20/year, 5 users. It's not for sysadmins at a small company. It's for a family. Or a small time single consultant. Or a tiny non-profit.

    5. Re:First post by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 1

      Or a nerd. I have my own domain because I like having it. There are two addresses on the domain. It's my permanent contact address. I'm grandfathered in on the free Google Apps plan, but if that ever ends, I'd pay MS $20 a year to do my mail hosting for sure.

    6. Re:First post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's 1 domain, $20/year, 5 users. It's not for sysadmins at a small company. It's for a family. Or a small time single consultant. Or a tiny non-profit.

      It's for whoever's dumb enough to use it, and it's part of something a whole lot bigger: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Big_%28police_procedure%29

    7. Re:First post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or instead of paying someone to administer that you can get office365 for less than what you'd pay them.

      And get (weather you like it or not) what is considered the industry standard buisness communcation suite (Outlok/exchange/activesync)

      And you don't have to worry about having an always available connection

      And you don't have to worry about getting statics from your ISP

      And you don't have to worry about your email getting shitlisted on RBLs because your IP comes a block allocated to ISP

      And you don't have to worry about securing your webmail solution.

      Yeah, you can hos it on AWS and fix a lot of the above but really once you're done tallying up the costs, including qualified administrator man-hours, you're not getting exchange (Your boss cares about this even if he has no idea what exchange is. Trust me. He'll ask for something that needs it. Be it calendaring or activesync or something like that) and you're probably not saving any money.

      Host your own exchange server? Jesus fuck no. That's for fucking chumps.

    8. Re:First post by JazzXP · · Score: 1

      Exactly what I was thinking. The current Google Apps is more than I'm willing to pay for it, but $20 per year is reasonable. I'm just glad I'm grandfathered.

  5. every h1b will have the needful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sanjeep will expect job offer in paid microsoft inbox because microsoft email address is signal that Sanjeep is serious about doing the needful.

  6. WOOT!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't wait! /sarcasm

  7. just another slashvertisement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    btw, price will increase to $50 per year soon

    1. Re:just another slashvertisement by corychristison · · Score: 1

      No mention of how much storage space. Doesn't clarify if you have to pay the fee for each mailbox on a custom domain or if that yearly fee gives you all 5 mailboxes. No real information anywhere.

      I did read in the comments below the article that if you buy a domain through them, Microsoft owns it and you can not transfer it out.

    2. Re: just another slashvertisement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're an idiot. 5 users is 5 mailboxes. $20 for 5 in total.

  8. PUSSY!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    GRAB ME!!!!v!!!!

  9. Egg, bacon and ... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

    ... SPAM. Which I seem to get from random outlook.com addresses.

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  10. (3)... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't see no stinking ads in the free version. But then I use scriptblock and UblockOrigin, and only use Hotmail for a junkbox email.

    1. Re:(3)... by corychristison · · Score: 2

      ... or use an e-mail client (desktop, mobile) instead of their web based mail client? I'm not sure if Outlook supports plain old IMAP and SMTP, though.

      Back when I used Gmail for a brief period, that's what I did.

      Now I pay for e-mail through a service provider... though I'm working towards putting together an e-mail cluster of my own.

  11. Lol, ummmm, NO by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    "(1) Custom domain support for five users.
    (2) Information sharing: Outlook Premium helps you easily share calendars, contacts, and documents (via OneDrive) between those five users.
    (3) Ad-free inbox: Like Ad-Free Outlook.com, Outlook Premium offers no "banner ads" for a "distraction-free view of your email, photos, and documents."

    1) Lol, custom domain support, whoop-de-fuckin'-do. Just get your own domain and have as many users as you want.

    2) "Information sharing", Oh yeah, I'll bet there'll be "information sharing", just not the kind you expected. We'll scan all your email for data to mine and sell, and why? Because FUCK YOU, that's why.

    3) Ad-free inbox: You mean like when I use an ad-blocker? Because that works pretty well for me.

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    1. Re:Lol, ummmm, NO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1) Lol, custom domain support, whoop-de-fuckin'-do. Just get your own domain and have as many users as you want.

      Okay, I have my domain. Where do I sign up for unlimited users? google charges $5/user/month, zoho has 25 user limit, haven't checked others.

      Oh, you mean run my own server? For under $20/year? Highly available? Maybe that's how you want to spend your time.

    2. Re:Lol, ummmm, NO by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      Oh, you mean run my own server?

      Add to your list, firewall protection, spam filtering, filtering out file extensions in attachments, checking for relays ...

      Just "No."

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  12. Outlook.com premium Email service? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds like delicatessen dumpster.

  13. No scanning? by archer,+the · · Score: 2

    I'd only be interested if they didn't scan emails for data mining. Scanning for malware would be ok.

    1. Re:No scanning? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too bad it's all the same thing.

  14. And for this price, ... by loranger · · Score: 2

    ... do you get the right to some privacy, at least?

  15. But my email is already snooped on by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 0

    Why should I pay Miscreant-o-soft $20 per year to snoop on my email, when Comcast, the FBI, the NSA, the CIA, and for all I know, the DIA (and other nosy government agencies who don't even have three-letter designations) already does that for the tax money the government extorts out of every paycheck I get?

    1. Re:But my email is already snooped on by geek · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Oh shut up. If you don't want it dont pay for it but don't whine like a fucking bitch about it. FFS

    2. Re:But my email is already snooped on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Found the Fed.

    3. Re:But my email is already snooped on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck you.

    4. Re:But my email is already snooped on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does Miscreant-o-soft pay you by the word, or by the comment, or is it a flat monthly amount? I've always wondered how the 'paid shill' gig is structured.

    5. Re:But my email is already snooped on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Woke up on the wrong side of bed hey Mr Grumpypants?

  16. Full encryption and I am in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If Microsoft guaranteed full encryption at rest and in transit of my email on outlook then I would pay $20 a month for that. But as it is now why pay at all? They will hand over your data to the highest bidder or the government at any moment.

  17. How much storage space for email? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why cant I find this most basic piece of information?? God damn it slashdot

    1. Re: How much storage space for email? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I LOL, it was a long fight 8 years or more but I have maintained my Hotmail account. Just before the change I had forwarded my mail to Gmail. 8 years I had no access to the account but my email continued.

  18. MS secret codes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why does MS insist on naming all its products with names that are like secret codes used by spy agencies that tell you nothing about what the product does:

    Outlook -- What, lets you see outside your computer?
    Bing -- A better way to buy cherries?
    Powerpoint -- Ball point pens for dictators?
    Excel -- Helps you win gold medals in track and field?

  19. US-only by CanEHdian · · Score: 2
    Before getting all excited, from TFA: "The bad news? It’s still offered only to users in the United States."

    Would've been nice to add that little tidbit in the summary.

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    1. Re:US-only by Kryptonut · · Score: 1

      Before getting all excited, from TFA: "The bad news? It’s still offered only to users in the United States."

      Would've been nice to add that little tidbit in the summary.

      If only they could have run it on some sort of cloud platform hosted in multiple countries.....

  20. I pass! by yooy · · Score: 1

    Outlook as bad as Gmail. Besides privacy issues, outlook always blocks my email. I live in China, use VPN, Outlook und Gmail always block my Thunderbird IMAP access. If you have bad luck with Gmail, it can happen that you never can access your account again. Try calling google. Good luck! Get email in Switzerland (Non EU, Non US jurisdiction) with your own domain here: infomaniak.ch or use gandi.net (Email included)

    1. Re:I pass! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Huh? It's The Great Firewall Of China blocking gmail:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Websites_blocked_in_mainland_China

      If you want to complain, complain to Chinese government.

  21. Outlook.com has the worst mobile UI by scorp1us · · Score: 1

    I have seen a lot of mobile UIs in my time, but it is the worst. The interface fails to load half the time. The time that it does, it takes multiple taps to get it to do something. Multiselect is an exercise in futility, you'll get about 3 selected, then on the next select, it'll drop the previous ones, meaning you never select more than one reliably.

    And they want to charge for it?

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  22. Ad Free! by SeaFox · · Score: 1

    Just like when I use it in Thunderbird.

  23. Re:I simply don't understand... by sglewis100 · · Score: 1

    Ublock is great. I don't think it addresses calendar sharing, custom domain support, etc.

  24. Re: Hmm, marketing dept confusion on the value add by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Would strong assurances that it's not hosted by Microsoft do?

  25. Hotmail user since 1998 beta by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    Hosts add speed (via hardcodes/adblocks), security (vs. bad sites/malware/poisoned dns), reliability (vs. dns down), & anonymity (vs. dns requestlogs/trackers).

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  26. Ublock = inferior inefficient imitation vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    UBlock can't do these as well as (or @ all) hosts do 4 speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnet C&C's
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    17.) UBlock now uses hosts (no DNS benefits vs. dns issues) - poor imitation = "sincerest form of flattery"

    Hosts = native vs. illogically "Bolting on 'MoAr'" & not ClarityRay blockable like addons.

    APK

    P.S.=> Hosts (1st resolver) do MORE w/ less in fast kernelmode & before slow usermode addons

    Hosts ~3mb vs. UBlock = 64MB -> http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte...

  27. For the best possible hosts file? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NEW version APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-7 32/64-bit https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=%22APK+Hosts+File+Engine%22+and+%22start64%22&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1/

    Ads & malware rob speed/security/privacy

    Hosts add speed (via hardcodes/adblocks), security (vs. bad sites/malware/poisoned dns), reliability (vs. dns down), & anonymity (vs. dns requestlogs/trackers).

    Less power/cpu/ram + IO use vs. DNS/routers/addons/antivirus + less security bugs/complexity & faster vs. addons/routers/remote dns!

    Avoids DNSChangers in routers/IP settings & dns redirects (99.999% of ISP DNS != patched vs. it) + lightens DNS load & resolves faster from local system RAM!

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    1. Re: For the best possible hosts file? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck off, spammer.

  28. So, ads are a distraction, then? by dwywit · · Score: 1

    Ads are something that detracts from the user experience, and we think you'll pay $20/year to be ad-free (at least on Outlook.com).

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  29. Easy answer by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Why not just run your own?...Then you have fine-grained control of everything to make it exactly what your business needs.

    Indeed, I find the same to be true with the gasoline I refine myself, or the cotton I grow to form into my own clothing. So much simpler! And I get any octane I like, though people look at me funny when I mention my sweaters are 98 octane.

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  30. Re: Hmm, marketing dept confusion on the value add by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Would strong assurances that it's not hosted by Microsoft do?

    Of course not, what kind of stupid question is that? Whether your mail is hosted by Microsoft or Google or Apple or whoever makes no difference. If you are sending unencrypted mail over the public net then naturally you are susceptible to data mining. It was recently demonstrated how easy it is to even track users that use different browsers and of course how simple it is to unmask Tor users. The answer is to encrypt your communications, anything else is just a TSA level of security theater.

  31. ffs by grimfate · · Score: 1

    "... is now available to all." To all? *eye twitch* It's US only! Why would they make this US only?! Why is my non-US money never good enough for them?

  32. Be ad-free by getting back to POP3 and a local... by Slashdot+Junky · · Score: 1

    Be ad-free by getting back to POP3 and a local email client. The ads are there, because web mail is used. I pull 180+ mailboxes into Outlook on my Windows box and have been doing so without ads just fine for a long time. The domain is mine with email services provided along with its hosting. My iPhone is configured to use a few of these so that I have mail on the go, and I could add more. For those that must have the option of web mail as a client, use IMAP instead so that the mail remains on the server until deleted by a client. Perhaps I am the exception and that today's mainstream user has a real need to check email on many devices, and this is why web mail makes sense.

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  33. Re: Hmm, marketing dept confusion on the value add by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Without checking, it could be monthly vs annual pricing, or with or without office 365 online (word, Excel, etc).

  34. Why? I get GREAT REVIEWS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & this from a former "naysayer" of mine (as I "change hearts & minds" using facts/truth) https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10255867&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&pid=53882945/ Something "your kind", UNIDENTIFIABLE TROLL WEASELS have no comprehension of (truth/facts) - I truly pity you. Either you 'hide' behind a FAKE NAME online for your FAKE LIFE or troll me unidentifiably (either way it proves I have utterly FLOORED you before & you're butthurt).

    * LMAO @ U, Coren22 (yes, I know it's you, you JEALOUS little "ne'er-do-well" w/ a LIMITED DEFECTIVE BRAIN (literally)).

    APK

    P.S.=> Face facts - you WISH you were me (but you never can be as you're admitted defective mental product & a genetic aberration (assburger boy))... apk