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Accenture To Create 15,000 Jobs In US (reuters.com)
Accenture said on Friday it would create 15,000 "highly skilled" new jobs in the United States, as IT services firms brace for a more protectionist U.S. technology visa program under President Donald Trump. From a report on Reuters: The company, which is domiciled in Dublin, Ireland, said the new jobs would increase the company's U.S. workforce by 30 percent to more than 65,000 by the end of 2020. Accenture has more than 394,000 employees, of which about 140,000 are in India. IT services companies have come under the spotlight after Trump said that his administration would focus on creating more jobs for U.S. workers, who had been affected by the outsourcing of jobs abroad. Major IT service companies, particularly those based in India, fly engineers to the United States using H-1B visas to service clients, but some opponents argue they are misusing the visa program to replace U.S. jobs.
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Accenture? Companies still hire them? Seriously?
If you hire companies to 'tell you what you want to hear', you have nobody to blame but yourself.
I'm not sure what skills they are talking about, but they are certainly in the 'soft skills' catagory (AKA bullshiting).
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We were told that globalization is the future, it will increase our prosperity and so on. After decades of this most consumer goods are very cheap and very poorly made. All salaries stagnated. At the same time a whole bunch of folks are out of jobs and can't afford to buy food.
Now we are trying protectionism. Consumer good are still relatively cheap but the jobs are gradually coming back. Salaries ticked up for the first time since 90s.
So could someone explain to me why we hate protectionism?
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Hey, they tried. Circumstances including a tough global economy and unprecedented events, intervened.
I don't expect Trump to get anything done or significantly alter the trade imbalance. I don't expect anything but rhetoric and thwarted policy.
Last I checked, the wealthy globalists like Buffet, Koch, Soros, Bezos, Slim etc. still control the media, congress, and the intelligence agencies (for blackmail).
Nothing is going to change. I expect native born US citizens to continue to get poorer, and die younger.
There will be more profits for Bezos, Gates, and Soros; and that is what matters after all.
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A lot of -1 votes and no reason why. Sad!
Citation Required. Even if it were true, it defies all economic sense that 4 weeks of protectionist policy changes (most of which haven't even been implemented yet) were the cause of a salary rise. Unless you're talking about CEOs giving themselves a raise in preparation for the plundering that's about to commence.
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Even if it were true, it defies all economic sense that 4 weeks of protectionist policy changes (most of which haven't even been implemented yet) were the cause of a salary rise.
You don't really understand how businesses work, do you?
After Trump was elected and laid out plans, businesses can reasonably know that the corporate tax rate will go down - not the precise amount, but at least a 10% drop - that is a lot of money for even small businesses.
They know that is true across to board in America. So that means businesses simps will have more cash to spend.
Given that most companies will be able to spend more, why would you not plan for the future right now? Why would you not hire more now, or give a better salary raise in order to stave off good employees being poached by coming inevitable hiring surges?
As a concrete example, I have my own small consulting business. As a result of anticipated tax reductions, I knew I would have more money this year so at the end of last year I increased charitable contributions.
The details of actual policies do not matter nearly so much as the certainly in broad strokes that something will happen to improve the outlooks for a business.
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Get rid of work visas outright. If a company can't find talent here in the US, they should feel free to sponsor a foreign national for citizenship - and take away the ability to summarily deport the foreign worker when they're through with them. Instead of a revolving door of H1B visa holders, we'll end up with more US citizens - workers who will be incentivized to demand the same pay and working conditions as their peers in the workplace.
I know of a certain international business machine firm that uses (abuses) huge numbers of H1B visa holders precisely because they can get away with it. It's great for their bottom line; they get employees that are willing to accept vastly substandard wages and work unpaid overtime in sweatshop-style conditions because they know that should they even think of standing up to it they'll be shipped back to wherever they came from. Now, if these guys were on the path to citizenship, I'm sure the manufacturer in question could still discharge them (after all, they're only contractors, not employees) - but they'll have a harder time making the case that there's no local talent to be had, because there will be all of these qualified personnel right here working towards citizenship.
Oh, the firm I'm not-so-subtly talking about? They don't pay US citizens very well, either. What should have been at least a $70,000/year salary gig for me ended up being a $24.04/hour job - contractors will be paid better, but they will end up providing unpaid overtime to make up for it (I know; I went down that path with them as well). In the end, I'm not saying we should prevent immigrants from finding work here in the US. I'm saying we should prevent visitors from allowing large enterprises to degrade compensation and work conditions for employees in the US.
Didn't see a post on it yet, but yet another Trump job creation victory! Seems like we'll be hearing a lot more like this in the coming four years.
I wonder what Trumps re-election prospects will be given a dramatic rise in jobs and economic growth is pretty much assured at this point, due to the administration before holding the economy down for so long... the geologic concept of elastic rebound applies here I think.
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Any company that does consulting should be automatically ineligible for H1B as their business model is to provide labor directly on a speculative basis. H1B is meant to fill existing jobs that no one in the country can/will fill, and this does not meet the description of any job in a consulting business model.
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Accenture makes it money off outsourcing. There's a lot of companies out there that do outsourcing and consulting business. No matter who the consulting company is the market rate is the market rate for a position. Let's say the market rate for an IT position is $100/hour. If I work for a big company like Accenture I'll see maybe $50/hour for that work. If I work for a smaller local company with less layers of management I'll see $80-90/hour.
If you're a competent developer, you should avoid companies like this. Bad hours, lots of travel, and substandard pay. Of course, they don't plan on staffing it with competent developers.
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Because Trump is breaking campaign promises as rapidly as he can.
That's funny; I thought all of the fashionable panic was because he was keeping most of them.
But even the most negative outlook on promises kept has to acknowledge a drop in the corporate tax rate is coming (remember, the subject at hand? Do keep up). Trump has said one is coming shortly. The house has announced they are drafting a plan. Trump right after the election noted he was going to reduce corporate tax rates as part of the 100 day plan - and at that point you are not talking about a dubious campaign promise, but something he takes a risk announcing ahead of time if he does not deliver.
Lastly you confuse Trump for the average politician, which he is obviously not... a commiserate rise in meeting promises compared to professional politicians is therefore not unexpected.
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I don't have mod points so can't correct the bad moderation, but I thought it was a good snarky comment. At least I hope it was intended as snark.
It's good news jobs are continuing to grow under Pres. Trump but HQ in ireland? Tax evasion haven "double-irish" style
After working as a developer for 20 years, the company I had worked for "shifted focus" on new endeavors, so I had to find a new job. Most all jobs posted today are through some contracting company. I ended up having to "prove my value" for about 8 months until they hired me. As a contractor, I made about the same money, minus benefits, and paid time off, and no 401k. Very risky for a person to go through this, even if they are good at what they do. In the end it all worked out... but honestly... they should have just given me a job with benefits and PTOs. The labor market for IT is just brutal.
.. all of those 15K jobs with H1B slaves they import from India.
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The unemployment rate has been on a steady decline for the last 6 years.
That Fake News was form when they were trying to get Obama and Hillary elected. What has been dropping is the number of unemployed looking for jobs, once they gave up and stopped looking they no longer add to the unemployment rate...
Most people know better, including Sanders...
If the REAL unemployment rate were actually dropping, Trump would not have been elected.
The "good" news is that now with a Republican in power the media will start reporting the real unemployment rate, which we will start to see dropping in about a year (once all the people who had stopped looking start again causing a momentary rise in the unemployment rate).
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"Accenture said on Friday it would create 15,000 "highly skilled" new jobs in the United States"
I'll believe it when I see it.
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I don't mean to be pedantic, but don't regular companies create the jobs, not Accenture? Maybe the article means Accenture will open up these new centers in the US, so that they can hire 15,000 people to do the jobs that regular companies created.
Hopefully the new 15,000 Accenture employees will be Americans. The article hints at that, but doesn't clearly state it.
Donald Knuth himself couldn't get hired by these guys as a programmer because he doesn't have X years experience in the latest fad programming language.
Accenture is about trained code monkeys.
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COULD be? Does anyone really have any doubt??
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As it happens, the US government collects statistics by gender of how much time is spent on which activities in the home. The relevant table is on page 9. I'll reproduce the relevant bits on housework here.
Hours per day, Average
Total: 1.84
Men: 1.43
Women: 2.23
Average percent engaged in the activity per day
Total: 76.4
Men: 67.0
Women: 85.2
Average hours per day for persons who engaged in the activity
Total: 2.41
Men: 2.13
Women: 2.61
I end up with the majority of the cooking and cleaning tasks; the girlfriend's ability to cook is pretty minimal. We're working on it. Anyway, for the average person it's not anything like a full-time job, but 2-3 hours per day, six days per week is definitely one of the larger components of human activity -- looks like the list goes sleeping, leisure, working, housework, eating.
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Worst IT company cozies up to alt-right usurper. Who woulda thunkit?
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We should drone strike their CEOs and ban them from doing business in the US. MAGA.
They didn't say anything about hiring Americans for these jobs..
Usually the way it works after these announcements is they just stamp out another 15,000 H1B's..Americans don't get hired..
14,999 H1Bs and a janitor.
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Sorry for the Beavis and Butthead remark, but with a name like that, come on.
Anyone who's worked with Accenture or similar companies more than once knows the business model:
- Partner and "A-Team" expert consultants sell a dream to the executive who called them in.
- Project begins, A-Team replaced with C-Team of fresh college graduates and maybe one or two "adults" running things
- C-Team is only the PowerPoint presenters -- if any "work" is done it's done by low-cost "delivery centers" in India or the Philippines or similar
- C-Team bills and bills for months on end, flying everyone in from all over the place and charging it all to the company
- Project either succeeds and the executive gets an ironclad "CYA PowerPoint" absolving him of any blame, or it fails miserably and a new project is put in place...
An announcement like this pushes the right buttons, because Accenture is probably one of the biggest employers of business degree new graduates. I've worked with people who were employed with them, and the orientation is basically an indoctrination -- the entire career path is laid out exactly like a continuation of school. It's apparently like mini-MBA bootcamp -- you learn how to dress, how to talk, which buzzwords to use, etc. to ensure you don't embarrass the firm too much. 23-year old college grads go from eating ramen to flying to client locations 40 weeks out of the year and billing thousands on hotels and meals to the clients. I don't want to perpetuate their business models, but it would be funny if something like this reduced the number of students complaining about paying student loans. Don't get me wrong - it's good to employ new graduates, but I'd prefer they were doing something useful.
I have a relative who's an "experienced hire" with them, and he confirms the business model...they are paid ungodly sums to either give CYA to executives or make whole departments of companies roll up into a monthly check they cut.
Accenture To Create 15,000 Jobs In US
They never say that those 15,000 jobs will go to U.S. citizens -- only that they will be created in the U.S.
Also, how many jobs does Accenture create, on average, in the U.S. Given how quickly employees turn over in body shops like Accenture, couldn't this just be their normal yearly hiring level?
It's all in the cleverness of the wording.
I thought tech companies have been saying for years that they can't find any decent job candidates in the U.S.
If you are saying that you can, indeed, fill 15,000 positions in a single year using only candidates only from the U.S. labor pool, doesn't that contradict your previous statements and invalidate the tech industry's arguments for the H-1B program?
Doesn't it suggest that you could have easily hired U.S. citizens in the past? That the only reason you didn't do so was economics? That the only reason you are doing so now is the threat of regulations, fines, tariffs, or sanctions?
So, were you lying then, are you lying now, or do you just lie all the time, depending on which way the wind blows?
That Fake News was form when they were trying to get Obama and Hillary elected. What has been dropping is the number of unemployed looking for jobs, once they gave up and stopped looking they no longer add to the unemployment rate...
You are talking about two different things. The definition of "unemployment rate" hasn't changed. It's not Fake News, it's called statistics, and they clearly define what they are measuring. Nothing fake about it. What is fake is people who make up things to push their position on something, and pretend they know what they are talking about. Like saying unemployment is something different than what it is. Saying people stopped looking for work is fine and may be true (no real stats to back that up though) - but saying the government is making up unemployment stats is patently false - or alternative facts, whichever term you prefer.
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