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70 Percent of Young Swedish Men Are Video Pirates, Study Says (torrentfreak.com)

A new study from Sweden has found that just over half of all young people admit to obtaining movies and TV shows from the Internet without paying, a figure that rockets to 70 percent among young men, reports TorrentFreak, citing a study. From the report: According to figures just released by media industry consultants Mediavision, in January 2017 almost a quarter of all Swedes aged between 15 and 74 admitted either streaming or downloading movies from 'pirate' sites during the past month. Perhaps unsurprisingly, the tendency to do so is greater among the young. More than half of 15 to 24-year-olds said they'd used a torrent or streaming site during December. When concentrating that down to only young men in the same age group, the figure leaps to 70 percent.

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  1. Nothing to see here... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 4, Funny

    They're too busy being the next PewDiePie.

  2. Results seem suspect by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you asked most non-technical people if they were using a "streaming site" to watch video, it seems like it would be hard to phrase a question in a way that would properly separate legal from non-legal use... how many would include something like Netflix? Of you said you hand't paid for it, how would they really know if website they used was legal or not? If you ask about specific pirate sites then you might get more accurate results.

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  3. Democracy? by Skinkie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    At what percentage would it be justified in to change the law, and not make it illegal anymore?

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    1. Re:Democracy? by james_gnz · · Score: 5, Funny

      At what percentage would it be justified in to change the law, and not make it illegal anymore?

      Never. That's not an option, because if the world succumbs to piracy, it will fall apart. We must continue efforts to address piracy in four ways:

      • Preventative technical protection measures
      • Monitoring
      • Streamlining prosecution
      • Harsher penalties

      It's not impossible if you're willing to think outside the square. If the figure goes up around 90% we could just drop a nuke. We've got plenty, and we're not using them.

  4. Legal isn't even an option we have by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In Scandinavia, being legal movie user is not even an option we have. Which movies are available when, is determined by some large media giants. Netflix and other streaming services contain a fraction of the movies the American one has. The series networks (ABC / NBC / ....) are not available or extremely difficult to get to because of geofencing. Someone else choose which subtitles are available, and if they are hardcoded.

    Soehh.. I think many of the young men listed here, myself included, would be happy to pay some $10 to $25 a month to LEGALLY watch movies, if that was an option. The audio guys slowly learn: streaming is available everywhere, and people use the services instead of copying MP3 files. Movie guys still don't get it.

    Just 2c from this side of the fence.

  5. Masturbation joke by AK+Marc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    70% are pirates. The other 30% are liars.

    1. Re:Masturbation joke by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 4, Funny

      And the remaining 10% are bad at math.

  6. 70% ? Thats good, but its not good enough by Indy1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We need to strive for 100%.

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  7. Re:TANSTAAFL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe the current model is the problem. If 70% of people can be pirates and movie stars can still make millions more than their equally educated peers then maybe the amount they CHARGE to view the content is the problem.

    Just thinking about entertainers like PewDiePie - He has 53 million subscribers and makes ~$12 million a year. That under $0.25 per person per year for all his content and I think he would say he is doing fine. This is a 100% ad-supported model.

    If people paid just $1 for all his content each year he would make $53 million+ a year (not everyone subscribes)... The point is, the actors and actresses feel the need to make way too much and anyone in economics would tell you they are trying to optimize their profit. The problem with that is it inherently creates people who are not willing to pay the market rate for the content and since it is "free" to copy it - they do.

    Obviously with physical goods you can't just "copy" the good and thus it isn't much of a problem when someone is not willing to pay market rate. They can still try to copy the item but it costs them $ and we don't call that pirating. We don't call it pirating when I take a stick and use it for a marshmallow skewer. We wouldn't call it pirating if I "copied" a patented idea with my own materials.

    This is simply a massive market failure because the middle class / upper middle class see $20 for a movie (for their family of 4) as cheap while lower classes and young see it as very expensive for themselves alone or a couple. The media executives think they have found pricing that generates the most profit but the *necessary* side effect is a market failure for some people. The incorrect thought by these media executive is that the people would ever be paying customers at the current price. It will NEVER happen. The reason they are not paying customers has nothing to do with the ability to pirate and everything to do with PRICING.

  8. How about making your content easily available? by rundgong · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How many of these people are also paying for legal streaming services?
    Nobody is going to pay for one more streaming service, when you already have 2 legal streaming services, and you are really only interested in one show on that third service. Or worse, your favorite show is not available for streaming at all because it is licensed to a cable channel that don't offer streaming.
    When that happens, I think most people feel torrent is a very reasonable alternative.

    We can listen to almost any music on Spotify, Tidal, Itunes or Google Play. Why the hell do we need 5 different streaming services for seeing all TV shows?
    If you want us to pay for your content, then make it easy for us to pay for it!

  9. Not good enough. by SuricouRaven · · Score: 4, Insightful

    70 is good, but how do we get it up to 80?