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Raspberry Pi Zero W is a $10 Computer With Wi-Fi and Bluetooth (betanews.com)
On the fifth birthday of the original Raspberry Pi, the foundation has announced the Raspberry Pi Zero W, a slightly more capable variant of the miniature computer. From a report on BetaNews: It's essentially a Pi Zero with the addition of the two features many people have been requesting -- wireless LAN and Bluetooth. Priced at $10, the Pi Zero W uses the same Cypress CYW43438 wireless chip as Raspberry Pi 3 Model B to deliver 802.11n wireless LAN and Bluetooth 4.0 connectivity. The full list of features is as follows: 1GHz, single-core CPU, 512MB RAM, mini-HDMI port, micro-USB On-The-Go port, micro-USB power, HAT-compatible 40-pin header, composite video and reset headers, CSI camera connector, 11n wireless LAN, and Bluetooth 4.0.
I still have literally never seen a Pi Zero for sale, except for exorbitant markups that make them multiple times their supposed price. I live nowhere near a Micro Center. I am way closer to a Fry's, and several Rat Shacks, but they can't manufacture enough Pis to sell into those channels.
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...well before the news appeared on Slashdot. It should be in my hands in a few days. I have been thinking about ordering a Raspberry PI zero since some time, but now that they just improved the hardware, I couldn't resist!
You always hear that these new models are priced at $X, but when you go to look for them, they are always sold out, and alternative sources have them for >$X. Then people post picture tear-downs of these awesome-looking builds, but never post actual part numbers so the builds can be replicated, and when you go looking for them the final bill runs into the hundreds of dollars.
I guess I'm just over the various fruit boards. News and anecdotal stories make them sound like an incredible value, but I can never make it pan out in reality.
I've looked for a Raspberry Pi Zero for years... I've never seen one in stock anywhere.
I'm almost of the belief that they're fake, they don't really exist, just a pretend product put out there for the illuminati but never really stocked. Either that or reptilian overlords stole all the Raspberry Pi Zero.
Whatever the explanation- it's an imaginary product. It doesn't actually exist besides on some stores websites with a big red sold-out next to it. If it were real it would occasionally come back in stock.
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Actually, what people want are SATA ports on Pi's.
...and if it had a charging circuit like the C.H.I.P maybe it would be useful for gadget development.
Former you can already get adapters to full sized x16, 3-4 x1 slots, or 1-3 PCI slots. Latter just needs enough devices with NVM to warrant an updated model with a wider bus connection. (They use USB 3 cables from the PCIe bus to the adapter board. 10G USB 3.1 should handle NVM's x4 connection.)
That plus 2-4 gigs of RAM would make a Raspberry Pi 4 the perfect small computer replacement.
A 64 bit model with 8-32 gigs of ram (or a slot option) would make it a complete PC replacement, with a far higher level of freedom than x86 systems have anymore (while the current firmware is proprietary there is a project making a fully open source hardware bringup via the VC4 core (which is MMUless and used as the 'Management Engine'+GPU equivalent on the boardcom chips the RPi is designed around.) Given the MMUless aspect the bringup code and the interface between the VC4 and the rest of the system has to be secure or someone can pwn your system via graphics code, run their own process inside the VC4 and spy on everything in main memory you are doing. On the plus side, unlike Intel and AMD (at least as far as the Pis are concerned.) the bringup firmware has no signature verification enabled so you can fully control all aspects of software on your system given sufficient reverse engineering.
Most geeks who are in the market for a Pi have several bluetooth keyboards, mice and other accessories laying around.
But the point isn't to use it as a computer, as much as it is to use it as a component for which you might not need any dedicated accessories.
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I've been fascinated with the Raspberry Pi (and Arduino, etc.) concept from the beginning. Every time they release a new version I think "I want one!".
Then I try to think about what I would actually do with one ... yeah, I'd tinker, I'd make something fun, novel, but trivial. The one project that I've seen that seems really cool is the brew pi, a controller for brewing/fermenting beer/wine, and that only uses the raspberry pi as a webserver/data logger.
What are some really good uses to put the raspberry pi to?
The OS is free.
Wait...someone SELLS an OS for this thing? Why would anyone pay?
AdaFruit - out of stock.
CanaKit - slashdotted to hell.
MicroCenter - Yeaaa! I get to put one in my shopping cart. Go to check out...shopping cart mysteriously empty. Repeat...same deal.
Buy $4 WiFi dongle - connect to regular $8 Pi Zero == $12 Pi Zero W.
I guess I can wait.
Windows 10 runs fine with 1GB, so 512MB is not that crazy.
640K should be enough for anyone: http://www.computerworld.com/a... Now (please) get off my lawn.
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What frustrates me about a device like this is that there's virtually zero value in having an HDMI port, but an additional USB port would be very useful. These are basically IoT devices, not desktop computers. An RS-485 interface would be handy too. :)
So it's a lot like a slightly more expensive CHIP only without its built-in 4GB storage and mini HDMI instead of composite output?
Some people crying about it not being exactly $5 must be forgetting about the laws of supply and demand. Currently the supply is low and the demand is high, so obviously RPi Zeros that are available will be sold for more than there 'estimate retail value' of $5.
So they add on a few toys to their most useless model.
Yet they don't see a machine with USB3. If you could build a viable FreeNAS box around the RPi, that could make all other uses combined look like a sales blip. But there's no way to connect storage at a decent speed.
Since these devices are component level products, limiting their availability (presumably because of limited production runs) makes them next to useless. I don't want a single unit to merely flash a few LEDs. I want one in EVERY hobby device I build. Selling them singly and then having none available for months makes them useless to me - as close as it's possible to get to vapourware without actually being non-existent.
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After the first month or so, MicroCenter has had good stock of ZEROs (w & w/0 camera).
When you buy NOOBS from one of the Raspberry PI vendors, you're not really paying for the OS itself; you're paying for the microSD card it comes on. And since you need a microSD card for the OS and data anyway...
I've never been able to buy this 10$ computer. It's never in stock. Never.
Probably not, so it should pass that test.
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What's the shipping on those pennies, though?
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Can you run Windows 10 on it?
I know you are joking by turning the "can it run Linux" meme around, but the Raspberry Pi org's download page carries a link to "Windows 10 IOT Core". No experience with it though.
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That's nice. It's almost like the Orange Pi Zero, only with a single core instead of quad, and only running at 1GHz instead of 1.2.
I only mention this as I recently wanted to become more acquainted with the RasPi ecosystem, and this looked like a cheaper option than the Revision 3 Model B, albeit still sufficient for my purposes, so I picked an OrPi up just today.
At least the included networking should make either Zero board easier to set up in a headless configuration than the plain Zero.
Costs in my locale are still crazy, about 30 USD for the Orange Pi Zero and around 60 USD for the Raspberry Pi 3B. There are some other boards (and clones, and stuff like PcDuino) around, but these 2 seemed to me the most likely for my purposes, prices are usually even steeper than those given.
Free, as in your money being freed from the confines of your account.
Half the reason I'd like a device like this is so that I can Bluetooth enable all my old audio gear on the cheap. However, I found decoding bluetooth mp3 streams to be so sluggish (a2dp-sink) on Pi 2 and Pi 3, that it's unusable. I'm not sure what it is about the hardware / software that makes it this way, but it's sad.
If you are after a small, embeddable Linux+ARM device I'd recommend you forget the Raspberry Pi and get an Orange Pi Zero. They exist, you can buy them of AliExpress, and they work just fine.
Surely you're aware that Windows IoT isn't Windows, right?
I have yet to see a regular zero in the wild. I keep seeing images, but never the real thing in my hands. Tried ordering until my fingers were blue.. Finally gave up.
Will this actually be available to us regular folk?
: that it is not in amazon, so it does not exist. This is fake news then, or who is supposed to get the message?
To address the short supply issues the Foundation added several new vendors this time. I guess their idea is to back the shops which are closer to the makers, instead of big chains.
Here's a shop in Germany for instance and they have stock. Shipping prices in Germany are ok, but international shipping is quite expensive. They also have a 30 x Pi Zero W kit for universities etc.
The Pi Zeros can't be that limited then, right?
Here's their kits:
https://buyzero.de/collections/raspberry-pi-zero-kits