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Raspberry Pi Zero W is a $10 Computer With Wi-Fi and Bluetooth (betanews.com)

On the fifth birthday of the original Raspberry Pi, the foundation has announced the Raspberry Pi Zero W, a slightly more capable variant of the miniature computer. From a report on BetaNews: It's essentially a Pi Zero with the addition of the two features many people have been requesting -- wireless LAN and Bluetooth. Priced at $10, the Pi Zero W uses the same Cypress CYW43438 wireless chip as Raspberry Pi 3 Model B to deliver 802.11n wireless LAN and Bluetooth 4.0 connectivity. The full list of features is as follows: 1GHz, single-core CPU, 512MB RAM, mini-HDMI port, micro-USB On-The-Go port, micro-USB power, HAT-compatible 40-pin header, composite video and reset headers, CSI camera connector, 11n wireless LAN, and Bluetooth 4.0.

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  1. Will I actually be able to get this one? by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I still have literally never seen a Pi Zero for sale, except for exorbitant markups that make them multiple times their supposed price. I live nowhere near a Micro Center. I am way closer to a Fry's, and several Rat Shacks, but they can't manufacture enough Pis to sell into those channels.

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    1. Re:Will I actually be able to get this one? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      There's this thing called The Internet , you might want to check it out.

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    2. Re:Will I actually be able to get this one? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I still have literally never seen a Pi Zero for sale, except for exorbitant markups that make them multiple times their supposed price.

      There's this thing called The Internet , you might want to check it out.

      That site doesn't work (perhaps it depends on google-analytics, which I am not going to enable) and it doesn't address the fact that it costs more to get a Pi Zero shipped than it does to buy one in the first place, because they chose only to distribute them through vendors which overcharge for shipping. I can get a whole fucking bundle of parts shipped from china for three bucks, but I can't seem to buy a Pi Zero for less than about twelve.

      Let's just check manually since this busted-ass webpage you posted doesn't work. PiHut is sold out. Adafruit's Pi Zero page found with google is actually 404. PiMoroni is out of stock. CanaKit doesn't even load, it just sits and spins. So basically, that was a worthless, broken fucking webpage, and you are a worthless, broken fucking slashdotter.

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    3. Re:Will I actually be able to get this one? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      They do no such thing. There is no restriction on vendors and if you have a decent electronics shop just walk in slap down a few quid and walk out again, or buy from online vendors which offer free shipping over a certain threshold. There are many ways for you to get your zero right now without paying shipping. Your just not even trying.

    4. Re:Will I actually be able to get this one? by allo · · Score: 1

      > but I can't seem to buy a Pi Zero for less than about twelve.
      That's okay. Its worth it. The selling point is not really the price tag, but the format, which is ideal for embedding.

    5. Re:Will I actually be able to get this one? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      You're not willing to spend $12 on something that has this kind of feature set and capabilities?

      I'm willing to spend more, I bought a PineA64+ for example. Even though that's something like eight times the size of a Pi Zero (if you count thickness) it actually costs less to ship. Why is that? It's almost like they're selling it only through the least competent vendors. That makes sense, because they're not competent themselves.

      Something like this would have gone for thousands of dollars 20 years ago.

      It's not 20 years ago. It's today. We're here, please try to catch up.

      Seriously, at $12 a piece, I'd buy like 10 if I had a use for it. That's chump change.

      Chump change for one person is not for another. I'm not as wasteful as you are.

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    6. Re:Will I actually be able to get this one? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      That's okay. Its worth it. The selling point is not really the price tag, but the format, which is ideal for embedding.

      Well, if I cared that much, I guess I should have bought one literally the one time I saw them for sale. The problem is, it was on element14, and those guys are incompetent as shit. I bought my original Pi through them and they lied about stock and then they lied again about shipping (they claimed it had shipped before they actually put it in the mail.)

      I have looked for them dozens of time and never found one in stock since. I'm with the other slashdotters in this thread who don't believe they actually exist.

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    7. Re:Will I actually be able to get this one? by ElizabethGreene · · Score: 2

      I feel your pain. I live in a technology wasteland too. If I need a 1/4 Watt resistor, it's 25 miles for me to one of the few remaining _Radio Shacks_.

      I traveled to Atlanta for work recently and found stacks of the Pi Zero for $5 at the Marietta GA Micro-Center. They had the camera cable in stock too. Unfortunately they didn't have any USB-on-the-go-to-real-USB adapters. Considering how much stuff I bought there, maybe it's a good thing there isn't one in Nashville.

    8. Re:Will I actually be able to get this one? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Come on. If you're the kind of person who would buy a resistor you could make your own adapter from a beer can[1] and a couple of paperclips.

      [1] Protip: an empty one works best.

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    9. Re:Will I actually be able to get this one? by idji · · Score: 1

      I bought them at pihut last year for 4.80£ https://thepihut.com/collectio...

    10. Re:Will I actually be able to get this one? by SimonTheSoundMan · · Score: 1

      You can buy them in most high street electronics shops and even in Tesco or Asda (Walmart).

    11. Re:Will I actually be able to get this one? by Neuronwelder · · Score: 1

      Resistor? No problem!! Go to Ebay.com. search string: resistors assortment --Scroll down for the 130 resistance values! 2,600 pieces @ $12.93..! Example: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2600pc...

    12. Re:Will I actually be able to get this one? by RabidReindeer · · Score: 2

      Something like this would have gone for thousands of dollars 20 years ago.

      Something like this would have gone for millions of dollars 50 years ago.

      Seriously. You can emulate an IBM System/370 on a Pi at speeds equal to or greater than the original hardware ran.

      It's not 20 years ago. It's today. We're here, please try to catch up.

      There are many products where the price of the materials and labor are the smallest part of the price, It's why so much food is so much cheaper per ounce/gram/milliliter/cubix-something in "family packs" than in individual-sized servings.

      Be properly awed that computers are now among this assembly.

      And seriously, we're talking shipping costs. Buy 10 of them. If the shipping is $7.50 for one, it's probably not going to be a whole lot more than that for a shipment of 10, considering size/weight. Just another "family pack". If you don't ever expect to need 10 and don't have enough friends to chip in on an order, buy one, suck up the shipping costs and don't complain. Even for $12, surely by now enough wealth has trickled down to you that you can afford that.

    13. Re:Will I actually be able to get this one? by Neuronwelder · · Score: 1

      If I didn't have so many things on the burner right now, I'd take a slice of that Pi, myself!

    14. Re:Will I actually be able to get this one? by ElizabethGreene · · Score: 1

      I doubt I'm the only one that's ever needed a resistor on a Saturday afternoon and no desire to wait until Tuesday to get it. :D

    15. Re:Will I actually be able to get this one? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Even for $12, surely by now enough wealth has trickled down to you that you can afford that.

      Eh, not really. I have enough other projects going right now that I can't afford to be wasting money on shit I'm not even using. And I have to work for what I get. Nobody is handing me anything. Indeed, many people have their hands outstretched to take things.

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    16. Re:Will I actually be able to get this one? by Guspaz · · Score: 2

      Every single store listed on whereismypizero is either out of stock or broken (CanaKIT returns a 404 if you try to add to cart), and some of those stores are overseas anyhow. Also, whereismypizero is a broken site that just shows "Checking" for everything.

      You're basically just reinforcing his point: the Pi Zero is nearly impossible to actually buy.

    17. Re:Will I actually be able to get this one? by Guspaz · · Score: 1

      Tuesday the following year, if you're buying from eBay. Cheap electronics parts on eBay all ship from China by boat.

    18. Re:Will I actually be able to get this one? by Neuronwelder · · Score: 1

      "To each, their own."

    19. Re:Will I actually be able to get this one? by allo · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it is hard to get one, the whereismypizero site helps. I do not see where you can get it cheap, but for most uses the bigger one is the better one anyway, especially when it did not had wifi and thus could only have lan/wifi or another device attached. Or an ugly fat hub ... which makes it almost as big as a full featured pi.
      So i guess you need to pay $25 for a starter kit + shipping, but then you have a pi, which is small enough to be hidden inside much stuff you may control with it.

    20. Re:Will I actually be able to get this one? by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      That's not surprising, the "Zero" in the name is its market share, it was rushed out as a panicked response to other sub-$10 devices. So the Zero W is more zero market share, but now with WiFi.

    21. Re:Will I actually be able to get this one? by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      > Limit one per order and no free shipping, though.

      Standard practice to hide your mark-up in shipping&handling costs.

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    22. Re:Will I actually be able to get this one? by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      define 'easily'

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    23. Re:Will I actually be able to get this one? by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      Hey, if people actually give you something for your work, you're one up. I have people who owe me enough money to do major property improvements and I'm not holding my breath. I'm supposed to be Wal-Mart or something, except that even at Wal-Mart everyone expects Lower Prices, not flat-out free work.

      The fact that you don't actually need or want the Pi Zero W bad enough undercuts the force of your complaints. I work with stuff like this, and shipping is just part of the cost of doing business for me. Although the first one I get will probably end up driving a $25 Pi camera as a wireless security monitor.

      Then again, I could buy this device including S&H from just one of my quarterly dividend checks. The joys of being a Capitalist! grunt, grunt, oink!

  2. Just ordered one... by LordHighExecutioner · · Score: 1

    ...well before the news appeared on Slashdot. It should be in my hands in a few days. I have been thinking about ordering a Raspberry PI zero since some time, but now that they just improved the hardware, I couldn't resist!

  3. Meh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You always hear that these new models are priced at $X, but when you go to look for them, they are always sold out, and alternative sources have them for >$X. Then people post picture tear-downs of these awesome-looking builds, but never post actual part numbers so the builds can be replicated, and when you go looking for them the final bill runs into the hundreds of dollars.

    I guess I'm just over the various fruit boards. News and anecdotal stories make them sound like an incredible value, but I can never make it pan out in reality.

    1. Re:Meh... by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      I really like my pi 3 and when you realize that the price is just the board without the power supply case, sd card, cables, case, etc... then you understand why can't build any project without spending more however I've been able to build multiple raspbian/retropie/osmc setups for friends under $100 and they love them. I will grant you that they rarely if ever use raspbian and though one of them copied their dvd collection to a usb hard drive and use osmc a lot mostly they just use retropie chalked full of retro game fun.

  4. Raspberry Pi Zero The Makebelieve Computer by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've looked for a Raspberry Pi Zero for years... I've never seen one in stock anywhere.

    I'm almost of the belief that they're fake, they don't really exist, just a pretend product put out there for the illuminati but never really stocked. Either that or reptilian overlords stole all the Raspberry Pi Zero.

    Whatever the explanation- it's an imaginary product. It doesn't actually exist besides on some stores websites with a big red sold-out next to it. If it were real it would occasionally come back in stock.

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    1. Re:Raspberry Pi Zero The Makebelieve Computer by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      I bought two within a month of its initial release. Maybe you're not looking often enough.

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    2. Re:Raspberry Pi Zero The Makebelieve Computer by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Maybe, I look once every three months or so and when I see everywhere is out of stock, I move on.

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    3. Re:Raspberry Pi Zero The Makebelieve Computer by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      Maybe, I look once every three months or so and when I see everywhere is out of stock, I move on.

      So the question is whether the Pi Foundation is just too incompetent to produce enough stock, or whether Broadcom is too pathetic to produce enough SoCs. Either way, you're an idiot if you design something around the Pi Zero... or its successor.

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    4. Re:Raspberry Pi Zero The Makebelieve Computer by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      The Pi Zero was cheap because Broadcom was inventory clearing and sold the Foundation the SoCs (which they'd stopped making) at a bargain-basement price. I don't know where they're getting the SoCs for this one, maybe they didn't use them all in the initial Pi Zero runs.

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    5. Re:Raspberry Pi Zero The Makebelieve Computer by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      The Pi Zero was cheap because Broadcom was inventory clearing and sold the Foundation the SoCs (which they'd stopped making) at a bargain-basement price.

      So it's the first one, then. Even by using the shitbags at Sony (who I really don't want to give my money to, which is what happens when you buy a Pi they manufactured) they still couldn't get enough production to meet demand? Or couldn't fill the channel fast enough? Either way, I'm underwhelmed by their performance. The Pi Zero has been useful primarily as a marketing exercise. Meanwhile, I have to wonder what percentage of them are just sitting in a drawer somewhere. I'm sure it's considerable, just like the prior model. They put out a lot of buzz about it, then people buy them, then only a percentage of them get used and a percentage of the people who want to do something with them get shafted.

      Well, fuck them. I'll buy Beaglebones, CHIPs, Pines and other devices which I can actually get my hands on.

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    6. Re:Raspberry Pi Zero The Makebelieve Computer by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      Before Christmas I saw that the micro center near me had them on special near the check-out lanes for $0.99 each. I thought about buying some then but then tried to think of what I would do with them and decided that I didn't need to impulse buy something that would get left in a desk drawer and forgotten about as I don't have a good use for it.

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    7. Re:Raspberry Pi Zero The Makebelieve Computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Dude, they're in stock at Pimoroni *right now*.

      https://shop.pimoroni.com/

    8. Re:Raspberry Pi Zero The Makebelieve Computer by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      The Pi Zero was intended to be a limited edition run to use up excess SoC stock. This was even announced publicly at the launch. I'm not sure where the vitriol comes from.

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    9. Re:Raspberry Pi Zero The Makebelieve Computer by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Ordered one for work today from Pi Hut: https://thepihut.com/products/...

      They have stock, shipping is reasonable.

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    10. Re:Raspberry Pi Zero The Makebelieve Computer by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Awesome, not in a place to buy right now, but shall... hopefully still in stock in 3 hours time.

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    11. Re:Raspberry Pi Zero The Makebelieve Computer by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      from the whole hype they created about the 'new revolutionary platform' while it's not a revolution, it's a quirk - a one-off short run that won't happen again anytime soon because the whole shebang is based on a single end-of-life sale of an obsolete chip.

      You can't base production around rpi0. You can't base a long-term system on it as replacements will be impossible. It won't last, it won't expand. It's not sustainable.

      It's like you claiming "I have found a new revolutionary method to get rich quick; $6600 per hour!" - when in fact you found a single $10 note on the street, 5 seconds of work, the end.

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  5. Actually, by DivineKnight · · Score: 1

    Actually, what people want are SATA ports on Pi's.

    1. Re:Actually, by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      FWIW if you just need a low-power ARM with SATA you can buy the Pogoplug V4. It's got 2xUSB3, 1xUSB2, 1xSDHC (which is where I put debian) and 1xSATA. It has a case and a wall wart and a patch cable and a reasonable price tag.

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    2. Re:Actually, by hairyfeet · · Score: 3, Interesting

      They removed shell access to the Pogoplug starting in Sept of 2016 so you are stuck with the shit OS they come with unless you break out a soldering iron so I'd avoid the Pogoplug unless you know for a fact its an old one. This is why they are currently selling for $9 on Amazon, once word got out the only way you could flash Linux on them was to break out solder the buyers dried up, they can't give 'em away now.

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    3. Re:Actually, by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      This is why they are currently selling for $9 on Amazon, once word got out the only way you could flash Linux on them was to break out solder the buyers dried up, they can't give 'em away now.

      Well, that's quite shit of them, but I guess it's an opportunity for me since I own a soldering iron. Do I have to do anything special besides hook up to the serial pads? I presume it's 3.3 volt. USB to CH340G is like two bucks, it's cheap enough to just leave it installed. What kind of noob doesn't have a soldering iron, anyway?

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    4. Re:Actually, by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      One possible: customers breaking their devices through shell and then demanding warranty repairs.

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    5. Re:Actually, by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      Nope just solder a couple of wires to the serial on the board to enable debug, that's about it. If you don't mind doing that? You basically have an Rpi style device with USB and SD card support for $9.

      I'd think about getting one for myself but frankly I have an entire bucket filled with Intel Atom netbooks over in the corner so if I need a cheap HTPC or file server? Well ya really can't top $0 and they don't even need a HDD (just boot puppy off an SD Card) so they are completely silent and lets be honest, an Atom dual really doesn't pull enough juice to really worry about the difference between it and an ARM device and with the netbook I can always pop open the lid if I need to do some tweaking.

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    6. Re:Actually, by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I'm using the pogoplug where the power consumption difference is relevant, on a dinky little UPS alongside my wireless router. I just need a spare, really.

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  6. Nice... by Freischutz · · Score: 1

    ...and if it had a charging circuit like the C.H.I.P maybe it would be useful for gadget development.

    1. Re:Nice... by dave420 · · Score: 2

      Plenty of other people seem to have managed to get one... You frequently make a lot of sense on Slashdot, but this time something seems to have flipped in your head :) You sound unnervingly similar to a kid complaining about their favourite Pokemon being sold out...

    2. Re:Nice... by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You frequently make a lot of sense on Slashdot, but this time something seems to have flipped in your head :)

      Your statement only makes sense if you ignore all the other comments in this thread exactly like mine. I am far from the only one who can't get his hands on a Pi Zero for a reasonable price. My biggest complaint, honestly, is the ongoing characterization of the Pi Zero as a "$5 computer" since it is clearly nothing of the sort for the majority of people. It costs more than twice that, shipped, if you can even find one. This new device will be the same story all over again.

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    3. Re:Nice... by Racemaniac · · Score: 1

      seriously, did you bother to look?
      i'm from europe, and when the original zero came out, i got 2 from the second batch that arrived at pihut & pimoroni (both UK retailers selling them at 4£, about 6$, so pretty much the advertised price (do mind that that is including tax).
      After this announcement i checked pihut, and this pi zero with wifi is right now available there at 9.6£. also e very correct price (as again it includes tax).

      And since atm the UK is still part of the EU, and they ship to the EU at reasonable prices, that's atm still the EU covered right now at announcement at the advertised prices.

      so i really don't get what you're bitching about... you indeed can't find it in every electronics shop at that price, but if you did a bit of effort it shouldn't be that hard to find shops that do sell it at that price.

    4. Re:Nice... by radish · · Score: 2

      They're in stock at canakit right now. Stop arguing and go buy one :) And yes, you have to pay for shipping, but when isn't that the case?

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  7. Re:Nice 10$ computer.... by popo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Most geeks who are in the market for a Pi have several bluetooth keyboards, mice and other accessories laying around.

    But the point isn't to use it as a computer, as much as it is to use it as a component for which you might not need any dedicated accessories.

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  8. Re:Best uses? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

    The Raspberry Pi is used in a lot of media boxes and arcade machines.

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  9. Re:Best uses? by CeasedCaring · · Score: 1

    Mine drives my 3D printer via "Octoprint"

  10. Re:Best uses? by hipp5 · · Score: 1

    I made a photo booth for my wedding.

  11. Re:Best uses? by Camembert · · Score: 1

    With infant twin kids around, I don't have enough free time to truly dedicate myself to a raspberry pi project. However a few projects seem interesting:
    - find an antique furniture style radio and convert the interior to an internet radio. This was not my own idea, it is a documented project.
    - with some luck my fossilised macintosh 512k with 2 floppys (how I loved that machine!) is still in the basement of my parents. I thought it would be fun to replace the interior with a pi 3, and use an lcd screen instead of the crt of course.
    - a diy picture frame style screen that displays all kinds of info from different feeds in separate areas of the screen. Weather, news headlines, picture of the day etc

  12. Re:Best uses? by Pascoea · · Score: 1

    What are some really good uses to put the raspberry pi to?

    Mine, a Rev B I believe, makes a really good paperweight. I bought it to control a pile of WS2812 pixels, but it's not particularly useful for that task, as you need an RTOS to do that properly. I tried using it as a Plex (Maybe it was Kodi, I don't remember) player, but it was under-powered. I imagine it would work really well to drive digital signage. A lot of people use them for retro-gaming. But to be perfectly honest, most of the tinkering I do is driven off Arduino.

  13. Unobtainium by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    AdaFruit - out of stock.
    CanaKit - slashdotted to hell.
    MicroCenter - Yeaaa! I get to put one in my shopping cart. Go to check out...shopping cart mysteriously empty. Repeat...same deal.

    Buy $4 WiFi dongle - connect to regular $8 Pi Zero == $12 Pi Zero W.

    I guess I can wait.

  14. Re:Best uses? by hughbar · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here's what I've made:

    1. A system to monitor local aircraft noise (Decibel meter + receiver for aircraft transponders + some integration software)
    2. My community currency software https://sourceforge.net/projec... + mobile phone dongle to make a mini bank-in-a-box with SMS payments
    3. OpenCV + the little camera module to make a (flakey) computer vision experiment
    4. Used a Pi3 as a slow desktop when my main desktop was hosed (by me, unhappily)

    OK, I accept that I am old & sad & totally friendless, but these little things are great fun. Some kind of energy analysis for the house is probably the 'next thing'. Hope that helps with some ideas.

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  15. Why the HDMI port? by mellon · · Score: 1, Insightful

    What frustrates me about a device like this is that there's virtually zero value in having an HDMI port, but an additional USB port would be very useful. These are basically IoT devices, not desktop computers. An RS-485 interface would be handy too. :)

    1. Re:Why the HDMI port? by bigmo · · Score: 1

      It's true that you usually wouldn't need to connect a monitor to one of these, but during development sometimes it's handy to just hook up to it like a small desktop and poke around. It really has to be hdmi because there are no monitors around that support composite any more. As long as you can somehow disable the ports/pins/resources that the hdmi uses when you're done, I don't see any harm in it. Just my 2 cents though....

    2. Re:Why the HDMI port? by PReDiToR · · Score: 2

      .
      I have a collection of Raspberry Pi devices, including one of the first 10,000 run.

      My two RasPi Zeros have Kodi on them, I'm going to get a Zero-W for the same reason. They quite happily output 1080 movies on LibreELEC and are powered from the USB port on my TV.
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  16. Like a CHIP with No Built-In Storage by Feneric · · Score: 1

    So it's a lot like a slightly more expensive CHIP only without its built-in 4GB storage and mini HDMI instead of composite output?

    1. Re:Like a CHIP with No Built-In Storage by petes_PoV · · Score: 1

      So it's a lot like a slightly more expensive CHIP

      More so than you would imagine. getchip.com has been reporting CHIP as being unavailable for months, too.

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  17. Only available 1 per order by petes_PoV · · Score: 4, Informative
    In the UK there is one place that sells them - if they haven't sold out. But they only permit Pi Zero (W) to be ordered 1 at a time.

    Since these devices are component level products, limiting their availability (presumably because of limited production runs) makes them next to useless. I don't want a single unit to merely flash a few LEDs. I want one in EVERY hobby device I build. Selling them singly and then having none available for months makes them useless to me - as close as it's possible to get to vapourware without actually being non-existent.

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  18. In the US, MicroCenter by redelm · · Score: 1

    After the first month or so, MicroCenter has had good stock of ZEROs (w & w/0 camera).

  19. Re:Best uses? by pjt33 · · Score: 2

    I also connected mine to a camera, but rather than for a photobooth it was to control my Nikon D40 from my phone, using wifi to talk to the Pi and USB from the Pi to the camera. It functions both as a remote trigger and as a way to quickly preview photos on a higher resolution screen than the one built into the camera.

  20. Re: Best uses? by Mike+Blakemore · · Score: 1

    We're adding a Pi Zero to our Desktop Satellite Antenna project for magnetic declination calculations and storing TLEs: hyperplaneinteractive.com

  21. Re:The Only Important Thing by Immerman · · Score: 1

    Probably not, so it should pass that test.

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  22. Pennies are heavy... by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

    What's the shipping on those pennies, though?

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  23. Re:The Only Important Thing by codeButcher · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Can you run Windows 10 on it?

    I know you are joking by turning the "can it run Linux" meme around, but the Raspberry Pi org's download page carries a link to "Windows 10 IOT Core". No experience with it though.

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  24. Re:Best uses? by Sir+Holo · · Score: 1

    Here's what I've made:

    1. A system to monitor local aircraft noise (Decibel meter + receiver for aircraft transponders + some integration software)

    Very cool and useful. Have you posted or shared the code and/or parts list anywhere on the net?

    What was the total component price?

    Calibration?

  25. Cool, almost like by codeButcher · · Score: 1

    That's nice. It's almost like the Orange Pi Zero, only with a single core instead of quad, and only running at 1GHz instead of 1.2.

    I only mention this as I recently wanted to become more acquainted with the RasPi ecosystem, and this looked like a cheaper option than the Revision 3 Model B, albeit still sufficient for my purposes, so I picked an OrPi up just today.

    At least the included networking should make either Zero board easier to set up in a headless configuration than the plain Zero.

    Costs in my locale are still crazy, about 30 USD for the Orange Pi Zero and around 60 USD for the Raspberry Pi 3B. There are some other boards (and clones, and stuff like PcDuino) around, but these 2 seemed to me the most likely for my purposes, prices are usually even steeper than those given.

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  26. But will a2dp sink still be choppy? by jason.fuller1830 · · Score: 1

    Half the reason I'd like a device like this is so that I can Bluetooth enable all my old audio gear on the cheap. However, I found decoding bluetooth mp3 streams to be so sluggish (a2dp-sink) on Pi 2 and Pi 3, that it's unusable. I'm not sure what it is about the hardware / software that makes it this way, but it's sad.

  27. Re:Supply and demand by green1 · · Score: 1

    Considering that their $35 Pi3 is well over $50 anywhere I can get one... I just assume that the prices quoted for any Pi product are pure fiction.
    I've never seen any of them anywhere near the quoted prices at any place I can actually purchase.

  28. No such device - vapourware product by slincolne · · Score: 1
    The idea behind these devices is that they are a cheaper version of the Raspberry Pi, however they are never available at the listed price. You can get the Zero's - as part of a bundle with a range of marked up peripherals you probably already have, so it's likely to be just another PR stunt.

    If you are after a small, embeddable Linux+ARM device I'd recommend you forget the Raspberry Pi and get an Orange Pi Zero. They exist, you can buy them of AliExpress, and they work just fine.

  29. Re: Best uses? by johnsie · · Score: 1

    Used one to monitor plcs at a hydroelectric project, another one to monitor the status of a compressor at a different site and another. Also had several different sites monitoring the up/down status of Lan devices and reporting back to the main server.

  30. Re:Best uses? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    I have Kodi running on one as a media server.
    I have Volumio running on one built into my sound system to make it a wireless UPNP endpoint.
    I have another recording power temperature indoors and outdoors and logging it all.

  31. Re: Proves RPi is not serious. by Jason1729 · · Score: 1

    Sounds like you're just posting the same thing. It's not a serious computing device. You're just offering a reason why.

    They could easily add a USB3 host controller, but you're right they never will because RPi is just a cheesy toy.

  32. Re:Best uses? by hughbar · · Score: 1

    Thanks, just briefly (sorry busy):

    1. Pi3 + 16Gb MicroSD + Ubuntu Mate 2. Noise meter: http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/sis.... (this isn't super accurate, not expensive either)
    3. ADS-B USB Dongle (R820T) incl. Small Indoor Antenna from jetvision.de
    4. https://github.com/antirez/dum... to read the transponder
    5. https://github.com/fiddyspence... to read the noise meter

    And some ugly glue code that 'joins' the two readings and sticks them in a one-table database. Obviously this is correlation, it will record cars if you point it in the 'wrong' direction. I haven't published the glue code, because it's in a terrible state. Hope that helps.

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