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Study Suggests Potatoes Can Grow On Mars (phys.org)

The International Potato Center (CIP) has launched a series of experiments to discover if potatoes can grow under Mars' atmospheric conditions, as well as under extreme conditions on Earth. The CIP placed a potato inside a "specially constructed CubeSat contained environment" that simulates Mars temperature, air pressure, oxygen and carbon dioxide levels. They then used sensors and live-streaming cameras to record the soil and monitor the status of the potato. Preliminary results are positive as cameras inside the container show sprouts. Phys.Org reports: "We have been looking at the very dry soils found in the southern Peruvian desert. These are the most Mars-like soils found on Earth." Chris McKay of NASA ARC. "This [research] could have a direct technological benefit on Earth and a direct biological benefit on Earth," says Chris McKay of NASA ARC. From the initial experiment, CIP scientists concluded that future Mars missions that hope to grow potatoes will have to prepare soil with a loose structure and nutrients to allow the tubers to obtain enough air and water to allow it to tuberize. "It was a pleasant surprise to see that potatoes we've bred to tolerate abiotic stress were able to produce tubers in this soil," Amoros said. He added that one of the best performing varieties was very salt-tolerant from the CIP breeding program for adaptation to subtropical lowlands with tolerance to abiotic stress that was also recently released as a variety in Bangladesh for cultivation in coastal areas with high soil salinity. Amoros noted that whatever their implications for Mars missions, the experiments have already provided good news about potato's potential for helping people survive in extreme environments on Earth.

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  1. We know... by hmblcodr · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...Matt Damon already showed us.

    1. Re:We know... by Coisiche · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually, I think people believing a sci-fi movie to be true probably has less impact on the real world than those who believe historical movies to be completely true. It has often been said that history is written the victors, and that may have been true once, but nowadays the history that many know and believe was actually written by Hollywood scriptwriters.

    2. Re:We know... by tomhath · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There's no practical difference between writing a Hollywood script versus an epic poem.

    3. Re:We know... by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's closer to reality than many a holy book, and a remarkable number of people believe that those are true, so there's that.

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    4. Re:We know... by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2

      Wait... Are you saying that Alexander Hamilton DIDN'T break into song about the million things he hadn't done and how he wasn't going to throw away his shot?

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    5. Re:We know... by r0kk3rz · · Score: 2

      Actually, I think people believing a sci-fi movie to be true probably has less impact on the real world than those who believe historical movies to be completely true. It has often been said that history is written the victors, and that may have been true once, but nowadays the history that many know and believe was actually written by Hollywood scriptwriters.

      Not when that Sci-Fi movie includes fictitious science. In the UK I had a conversation about the idea that humans only use 10% of their brain, and upon saying that the idea was basically bullshit and provably so from an evolutionary perspective, I was asked if I had watched Lucy, the Scarlett Johanssen film based upon the premise and that I might find it interesting.

    6. Re:We know... by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 2

      Wait... Are you saying that Alexander Hamilton DIDN'T break into song about the million things he hadn't done and how he wasn't going to throw away his shot?

      Not sure he was Puerto Rican either.

      He was born a little bit east of there, St. Kitts & Nevis...

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    7. Re:We know... by Darinbob · · Score: 3, Funny

      Squirrel!

  2. Much rejoicing in Russia by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Funny

    Colonization of Mars possible now! Vodka available!

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  3. I hate these hype stories by Rei · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yeah, you can grow things in Mars regolith. If you first remove the toxic perchlorates. And the hexavalent chromium. And the general excess of arsenic. And on and on. Basically, if you take a highly polluted natural material and remediate the various pollutants from it, then add water, you can grow plants in it. Well golly gee, whoda thunk that?

    This project is a stunt by a potato council. They're not growing potatoes in Mars regolith or anything similarly contaminated, they're growing them in soil taken from the Pampas de La Joya desert. Interviewed elsewhere:

    The goal is to raise awareness of the incredible resilience of potatoes, and fund further research and farming in devastated areas across the globe where malnutrition and poverty are rife and climbing.

    “How better to learn about climate change than by growing crops on a planet that died two billion years ago?” said Joel Ranck, CIP Head of Communications. “We need people to understand that if we can grow potatoes in extreme conditions like those on Mars, we can save lives on Earth.”

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    1. Re:I hate these hype stories by Rei · · Score: 2

      Oh, heck, from the look of it the thing's not even in space.

      Yep, check out the timelapse mode on the livestream - there's clearly people walking by outside. For crying out loud...

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    2. Re:I hate these hype stories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, duh! If you use Wikipedia too look up what's in Mars regolith and you fantasize that plants grow out of water alone, it's obviously easy.

    3. Re:I hate these hype stories by Rei · · Score: 5, Informative

      No information anywhere specifying what pressure (Pa, mbar, psi, atm....) they're using in there, but I can tell you it's not a Marslike ~600Pa / 6mbar / 0.006 atm, because that's below the Armstrong limit, and water can't exist in a liquid phase at those pressures (the "liquid water flowing on Mars" was actually concentrated toxic deliquescent brine). I can also tell you that they're not using Marslike temperatures because it's not exactly a secret that potatoes don't sprout or survive in the winter.

      What a load of hype.

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    4. Re:I hate these hype stories by Rei · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Mars One, seriously?

      That alone is enough reason to discount them, but beyond that, they don't state what simulant they used. There are two main Mars regolith simulants out there. JSC MARS-1 (most recent, MARS-1A) is ash from the Pu'u Nene cinder cone (simply dug up and sieved); and MMS, which is crushed Mojave desert rock. They only match Mars (very, very roughly) in terms of bulk composition, not at all in terms of hygroscopic and toxic compounds (MMS is somewhat hygroscopic, MARS-1A not at all). Mars perchlorates are not just hygroscopic, they're delequescent. And it's packed full of toxic compounds you generally don't find on Earth (outside of superfund sites, at least ;) )

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    5. Re:I hate these hype stories by stealth_finger · · Score: 2

      plants grow out of water alone, it's obviously easy.

      Water? Like out of the toilet?

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    6. Re:I hate these hype stories by Rei · · Score: 2

      Not sure whether this was meant seriously or in snark.

      If actually meant seriously: potatoes, like all plants, exchange gas with air in the pore space at their roots in order to get oxygen. Said air is the same pressure as the outside air. Water vapour exchanges with it at the same rate as it would with air on the surface, with respect to partial pressures. And even if that wasn't the case, the mass of the soil would only add ~1-2 kPa pressure (on Earth, less on Mars due to the lower gravity).

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  4. Now all we need is ... by OneSmartFellow · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... to be able to grow tomatoes.

    Tomatoes ??   I hear you ask.

    Well, of course, you can't eat Fries without Ketchup, can you ?

    1. Re:Now all we need is ... by mwvdlee · · Score: 4, Informative

      Outside of the US, most people prefer mayonaise with their fries.
      We need to raise chickens on Mars.

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    2. Re:Now all we need is ... by fisted · · Score: 2

      Outside of the US, most people prefer mayonaise with their fries.

      True -- inside the US, most people prefer some fries with their bowl of mayonaise.

    3. Re:Now all we need is ... by phayes · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Belgium != the rest of the world outside the U.S.
      Different countries, different tastes. For France mustard would predominate, for Canada gravy & cheese curds, etc.

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    4. Re:Now all we need is ... by silentcoder · · Score: 2

      South Africa is mostly tomato sauce - of the thick and sticky variety (which is similar but I think not identical to what Americans call Ketchup).

      Though cheese sauce has been growing in popularity in recent years - especially in pubs.

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    5. Re:Now all we need is ... by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

      South Africa is mostly tomato sauce -

      I'm surprised anyone can live in a country made up mostly of tomato sauce.

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    6. Re:Now all we need is ... by silentcoder · · Score: 3, Funny

      The struggle is real.

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  5. Critical lack of lack of GRAVITY by wisebabo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Like others who posted here, I'm very disappointed that the "CubeSat" is, in fact, not a "Sat" (Satellite) but just a dummy test environment here on plain old Earth. I guess it would have been nice to think that they had launched the thing into orbit (like on that 100+ satellite carrying Indian rocket) but I guess the cost and difficulty of making it space worthy (let alone human-spaceflight worthy to be sent to the ISS) was far greater than the budget of this marketing stunt. (And it was a stunt, as other posters have mentioned they eliminated so many of the bio-hazardous ingredients known to be on Mars, the soil was hardly an analog of Martian soil.)

    However, this stupid marketing stunt did remind me of one thing that really needs to be examined, how does GRAVITY and the (partial) lack thereof affect our LONG-TERM prospects in space and throughout the solar system? Because except for maybe the clouds of Venus (and Saturn!) there will not be anywhere else in the solar system where we can find a remotely habitable environment that shares 1G. Will humans be able to become pregnant, bring babies to term, give birth and have them develop normally in a non-1G environment? If not in zero G what about on the moon (1/3 G) or Mars (1/6 G)? That is a huge question for which there has been no definitive research because it is very hard (impossible?) to mimic a less than 1G environment (even if you float an animal its internal organs are still subjected to 1G).

    So what to do? Well I heard there WAS a plan to put a large centrifuge on the space station which could simulate various G levels for long periods of time. If so, while I'm sure it wouldn't have been large enough for humans to use (without massive disorientation due to the short radius), it would've been fine for mice and other small animal studies. This would've given us CRITICAL information on whether mammals at least would be able to reproduce on the moon or mars.

    Without this data, the first colonists to go to the Moon and Mars are taking a tremendous risk with their most precious of possessions, their descendants. Unfortunately, their experiment (using their own families as subjects) and pioneering this new biological frontier could end in a terrible tragedy not just for them but for mankind.

    1. Re:Critical lack of lack of GRAVITY by Baron_Yam · · Score: 2

      >this stupid marketing stunt did remind me of one thing that really needs to be examined, how does GRAVITY and the (partial) lack thereof affect our LONG-TERM prospects in space and throughout the solar system?

      Yep. We have lots of data on 1G and a lot on ~0G, but nothing significant on 0.16g (the Moon) or 0.38g (Mars).

      That's why I'd really like to see us send a couple of experiment modules to Mars to see a few generations of mice and a few generations of plants under low-g.

  6. in fact its cold as hell by rossdee · · Score: 3

    It gets too cold to grow stuff on Mars.
    You'd have to have a heated, pressurized greenhouse.

    1. Re:in fact its cold as hell by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's why Mars ain't no kind of place to raise your kids. Not to mention that there's no one there to raise them if you did.

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  7. Condiments by sjbe · · Score: 2

    I can understand Aioli, but straight mayo? Ew.

    Sure, straight mayo works on fries though that's rather boring just like ketchup is boring. Tartar sauce and aoili are great. So are all kinds of salad dressings. Honey mustard is tasty. BBQ sauce works. Melted cheese is great too. Honestly though if you wouldn't eat the fries plain (just salt) without dipping them in something first then they are crap fries not worthy of consumption. Whatever you are dipping fries into should make already good fries better. Same with hot dogs or other sausages - if you won't eat them plain then eat something else. Condiments should enhance the flavor not be the flavor. If all you want to taste is the condiment then why not just eat the condiment and save the calories for something better?

    Poutine sauce is what belongs there.

    "Poutine sauce"? The word you are looking for is gravy because that's what it is. Poutine is fine but in my opinion highly overrated. I've spent loads of time in Canada and I've seldom had poutine that was actually good. Mostly it's a cheap crappy thin gravy with some not very tasty cheese curd thrown in on top of some badly done fries. It's a dish that is WAY more popular than the taste should justify. I'm sure it can be done well but that's not what is usually sold.

  8. School Children in the year 2200 by DarkOx · · Score: 2

    School Children in the year 2200 will probably be reading about the Martian Potato famine.

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  9. Learn something new everyday by IWantMoreSpamPlease · · Score: 2

    that the "International Potato Center" is a real thing.

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  10. Re:The Irish had better consider radiation by fyngyrz · · Score: 2

    Data from the Chernobyl incident:

    No deleterious effects of radiation could be observed in locations where radiological doses were less than or equal to 5 rad/year. Where doses between 5 and 400 rad/year were received, radiation effects were 'ecologically masked,' meaning that adverse effects on individual organisms were observed but no changes in populations or ecosystems occurred. Where doses were >400 rad/year, damaging effects on populations and communities occurred.

    Cited source

    Average yearly (300 mars days) radiation levels GCR dose rate at Gale Crater on Mars: .21 mGy*, (.021 rem) per day, or (365 * .021 to account for our reference which is per earth year) = ~7.6 rem/earthYear.

    *Cited source

    Handy conversion calculator

    So yeah, if I put all that together properly, not as much of an issue as I'd thought at all.

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