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Seattle Tech Engineers Are More Loyal Than Those in San Francisco, Data Shows (geekwire.com)
An anonymous reader shares a report: Software engineers in Seattle stay at companies an average of six months longer than do their counterparts in San Francisco, according to data from online job search giant Indeed. That may seem like a small difference, but it's actually quite significant when compared to the total time engineers tend to stay with a company. In Seattle, they average 29 months while San Francisco devs stick around for about 23 months. Doug Gray, Indeed's senior vice president of engineering, shared that finding along with other statistics during an event on attracting tech talent, hosted by the Seattle Chamber of Commerce on Thursday morning. "That is another thing that we should be promoting here in Seattle, is that greater loyalty, which leads to the ability for someone to have an impact in their company, for them to actually have greater career development within that company," said Gray.Also see: Scraping By On Six Figures? Tech Workers Feel Poor in Silicon Valley's Wealth Bubble
And if you live in a small village you'll probably stay int he same job for life. Doesn't mean you're more loyal, it just means you've got fewer choices.
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I suspect this says more about San Francisco than about Seattle. Throw some other cities in there.
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Aren't you curious how people at other companies do things?
I find most people who have grown long in the tooth and accepted 2% raises as normal aren't curious about anything.
Sometimes people are satisfied with their job and money isn't their main driver.
"Action without philosophy is a lethal weapon; philosophy without action is worthless."
Aren't you curious how people at other companies do things?
Not enough to give up my 6 weeks of vacation, institutional memory and senior status as "He Who Knows".
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I bet these people are well under age 35.
"I don't know, therefore Aliens" Wafflebox1
Aren't you curious how people at other companies do things?
I find most people who have grown long in the tooth and accepted 2% raises as normal aren't curious about anything.
Curious. I find many people that hop jobs every couple years to be not curious enough to deeply learn about anything, and are mostly just greener-grass folks looking to trade some sweat for money.
Sometimes staying put for a while correlates with a desire to learn something a bit more than superficially. Although trade skills often be practiced anywhere, learning a business and industry enough (to understand how to create value in a business) often takes more than one project cycle and 23 (or 29) months perspective is a pretty short time to see what generates value for customers and what is unimportant... Generally, if you aren't spending VC money, it's better value to companies to have employees know what is important and what is unimportant over the long term. You can only be twice as good as another ditch digger, but good ideas can be 100x better than bad ideas...
Of course there are companies where little can be learned and there's little reason to stay there at all, and maybe you simply stay there 23 months to make it look like you aren't a job hopper. But that's probably 22 months too long IMHO, as there are generally other fish in the sea...
the tech companies to the employees? Do they kick you to the curb when the stock drops $2? When you hit your 35th or 40th birthday? Do they collude with other companies to limit your pay and benefits? Will they hire you if your skin is brown? If you are female?
We keep seeing reports on things like worker loyalty but why don't we see the same on company to employee loyalty?