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Google's Allo App Can Reveal To Your Friends What You've Searched (recode.net)

Google's new messaging app Allo can reveal your search history and other personal information when you include the Google Assistant bot in chats, according to a report. From the article: My friend directed Assistant to identify itself. Instead of offering a name or a pithy retort, it responded with a link from Harry Potter fan website Pottermore. The link led to an extract from "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix," the fifth book in J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter series. But the response was not merely a nonsequitur. It was a result related to previous searches my friend said he had done a few days earlier. [...] When I asked "What is my job?" in my conversation with my friend, Assistant responded by sharing a Google Maps image showing the address at which I used to work -- the address of a co-working space, not the publicly listed address of my previous employer. Google had the address on file because I had included it in my personal Google Maps settings. It did not ask my permission to share that.

61 comments

  1. Well Shit by Nidi62 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I guess I shouldn't have done all those searches on "the best way to murder a friend without getting caught"

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    The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
    1. Re:Well Shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With friends like you, who needs enemies?

    2. Re:Well Shit by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      For most people if their privacy is invaded they will not get into trouble. However it doesn't mean that there isn't aspect of their life that they would like to keep private. We have our outward persona and our inner desires. They normally will not fully match up. So you know this guy who it Big Tough Ladies man then you dig around and find that he enjoys chick flicks and Musical Theater, doesn't really show anything that would put him in a compromising position. But steps on how he wants to present himself to the world.

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      If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
    3. Re:Well Shit by Nidi62 · · Score: 4, Funny

      With friends like you, who needs enemies?

      Unfriending people can just get so awkward and uncomfortable though.

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      The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
    4. Re:Well Shit by hyades1 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Probably the "Do sheep enjoy being sodomized?" query wasn't the best idea, either.

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      I've calculated my velocity with such exquisite precision that I have no idea where I am.
    5. Re:Well Shit by GrumpySteen · · Score: 1

      Just do a bunch of searches for midget gangbang porn. Your friends will instantly regret digging into your search history and will abandon it before they find any of the real stuff.

    6. Re:Well Shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I may not need enemies but I do need enemas. Seriously, my butt is full of impacted shit from all the cocks pounding my ass.

    7. Re:Well Shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      huh, midget gangbang porn isn't how you bond with your friends? I'm guessing that's socially frowned upon...good to know....

    8. Re:Well Shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I know everyone has sexual fetishes, but roosters? Really?

    9. Re:Well Shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They don't.

    10. Re:Well Shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hurr hurr. You're a regular Carlos Mencia!

    11. Re:Well Shit by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      ROFL!!!

      Thanks for that vital piece of information. My life is now complete!

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      I've calculated my velocity with such exquisite precision that I have no idea where I am.
  2. On a side note by fredrated · · Score: 2

    does anyone know why Slashdot tries to open other web pages when I come to this site, and without my clicking on anything?

    1. Re:On a side note by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Your computer is pwned.

    2. Re:On a side note by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your computer is pwned.

      This. By Google Allo, obviously.

    3. Re: On a side note by steffann · · Score: 1

      Mine does the same occasionally. It's one of the ads.

    4. Re: On a side note by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Duh. Active ads (i.e. those that anything else than just a gif/jpeg/png) are an effective malware vector. You need to be an idiot to not use an adblocker.

      If slashdot wants me to see ads, they must be a simple image served from their own subdomain tree.

    5. Re: On a side note by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's because slashdot serves up criminally abusive ads with malware.

      Use ad blockers and no scripts on this shithole.

    6. Re:On a side note by Desler · · Score: 1

      It's called you're not using an adblocker and noscript.

    7. Re:On a side note by sinij · · Score: 1

      It's called you're not using an adblocker and noscript.

      This is just unhygienic, and is a technological equivalent of wearing months-old yellow and brown stained underwear.

    8. Re:On a side note by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I saw this I reflexively looked at my ad blocker chrome extension and saw 33. I'm just realizing that there is a whole part of the internet that I don't even see anymore.

    9. Re: On a side note by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think that word means what you think it means.

    10. Re: On a side note by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it's rather telling that the only way to be a regular on slashdot is to use an adblocker to suppress the malware it tries to deliver on a daily basis.

      That is something of a model for today's society, I think. Existence contingent on the hypocritical suppression of those who express our values.

    11. Re: On a side note by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    12. Re: On a side note by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same issue on my mobile, must be some stupid ad-network they are using.

    13. Re: On a side note by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have an ad blocker and I still occasionally get the redrect.

    14. Re: On a side note by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And stupid JavaScript features allow them to break the back button with history replace. Fuck you slash dot and iPad.

  3. this is longer a surprise. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    When I asked "What is my job?" in my conversation with my friend, Assistant responded by sharing a Google Maps image showing the address at which I used to work -- the address of a co-working space, not the publicly listed address of my previous employer. Google had the address on file because I had included it in my personal Google Maps settings.

    Look, it's abundantly clear by now. There are companies... Google, Facebook, Yahoo, plenty of others... whose whole business is built on farming as much information about you as they can. What you look at on the web, even if it's a page that seems to have nothing to do with them on the surface. What you buy. Where you travel in real life. Who your friends are. What you say to your friends. What you say to your family. Your politics. Your religion or lack of religion. Your hobbies. Whether you're in the middle of a divorce, or were just diagnosed with cancer. Everything. They have no limits.

    If you continue to feed that machine, it will continue to grow and grow without bounds. It will give you a nice comforting view pretending to be your friend and wonderful helper. It is not your friend. It is not on your side. It does not have your interests at heart, except if they randomly happen to align with its own goal of making money by harvesting data from you. Don't be surprised when you get the world you are voting for.

    Stop supporting these things (and then pretending to be surprised when they go all creepy stalker). Store your data locally. Communicate with friends and family without funneling everything you say through them. Get off their social networks. Block their tracking bugs.

    1. Re:this is longer a surprise. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great idea in theory, and I do agree with you. However, in practice, especially if you are in IT, it's very difficult.

      Anymore, it's almost like we have to pick a feudal lord to live under. Apple, Google, Microsoft. You agree to silo yourself within their "protective walls" and they promise to deliver great tech to "make your life easier". Some people I know have both Apple and Google ecosystems they live within. We are vassals to the feudal lords and this will not get better or easier.

      Sure, you can backup and keep your data local. But local data that cannot be accessed is useless. I want to be able to access my family photos on a whim. I want to be able to grab and perhaps even edit my CV in a browser. G Suite allows me to do all of this. I pay for G Suite, so my legal relationship with Google is one business buying a service from another. The terms are far different for me than for someone who uses a free Google account.

      Also, as you know, local backups are subject to fire, loss, theft.

    2. Re:this is longer a surprise. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anymore, it's almost like we have to pick a feudal lord to live under.

      (Same AC you replied to here). That's a great analogy! Thing is, it's still -- just barely -- possible to live free, instead of under a tech feudal lord. It's becoming less and less convenient all the time though.

      As for local backups, yes, though you can keep them outside your house. I have a safety deposit box I use for the purpose.

  4. Well obviously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you have something to hide, then Google's Allo App is not for you.

  5. ALLO!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That reminds me of my friends Colombian housekeeper. Every time she answered the phone, she said ****ALLO****.

    ANNOYING AS FUCK I TELL YOU.

    ALLO

    ALLO

    All FUCKING DAY.

  6. Who'da thunk it?! by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

    If you hook an AI up to a database that knows "everything" that "everyone" does on the internet, it will retrieve that information upon request!

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    Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
    1. Re:Who'da thunk it?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you hook an AI up to a database that knows "everything" that "everyone" does on the internet, it will retrieve that information upon request!

      It's only a true AI when it starts holding onto the info for purposes of blackmail.

  7. Big Data is Scary... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this is why I don't buy smart TVs nor have a 'google account'. Not a 100% fix, but every bit helps..

    1. Re:Big Data is Scary... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I only buy retarded TVs with dyslexia. That way anything they learn about me will be reported with the message scrambled up

  8. Don't feed it if you don't like the outgoing poop by Elixon · · Score: 1

    > Google had the address on file because I had included it in my personal Google Maps settings. It did not ask my permission to share that.

    Well I like those folks who enter all personal information into... and they whine "nobody asked my permission"...

    Don't you know that if you feed that Internet Beast with your information it will chew it up, swallow it and transform it in a poop that you may not like? And it won't ask if it can poop your precious personal info?

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    Well, I've got to get back to work. When I stop rowing, the slave ship just goes in circles.
  9. This is VERY bad by JustNiz · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I can see this being VERY damaging to society as a whole.

    For example, imagine the trouble that can ensue from Allo revealing what your search history is. For example imagine your discover your wife/husband has been googling lots of articles about divorce. It may actually be because they are finding ways to best help a friend through their problems, but you can imagine the stress discovering just that fact in isolation might cause in a relationship.

    Its also directly encouraging a "N. Korea" type society where you can be judged on your private thoughts. For example you could be a perfectly stable person but just because you googled some stuff about the NRA, your opinions are now perceived as sufficiently alternative from the current pee-cee status quo that you might not even get through any job interview in CA.

    1. Re:This is VERY bad by Desler · · Score: 1

      Then simply don't use Allo. Are you going to die without it?

    2. Re:This is VERY bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just another move towards making sure that you have no privacy at all. Google needs to keep feeding its voracious appetite for personal information which they use to sling adverts at you. With this, they can also target your friends.

          Billy Bob liked this so we think that you will too....

      Cue lots more broken marriages or worse.

      Google is pure EVIL. Don't feed their dragon or it will come and devour you in one gulp.

    3. Re:This is VERY bad by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      " judged on your private thoughts"

      If you are searching on the public internet, then it isn't your private thoughts. The Internet is NOT private, and not secure either. It is a public network.

    4. Re:This is VERY bad by JustNiz · · Score: 1

      No you missed my point. Sure the internet isn't private but now you can be judged on whatever people interpret as your private thoughts behind the searches you conduct.

    5. Re:This is VERY bad by JustNiz · · Score: 1

      Of course not, but the fact that Allo can do this indicates the existence of other avenues/approaches that can and therefore will be abused.

    6. Re:This is VERY bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Internet is NOT private, and not secure either.

      It's as private and secure as your actions on it dictate.

      That choice in your hands. It is secure if you use end to end encryption with uncompromised endpoints. It is somewhat private if you do not route information through malicious data collectors like Google, and much more private if you use onion routing to deny attackers information on communication paths.

    7. Re:This is VERY bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you missed 110010001000's point. The internet is the high tech equivalent of going to your friends and asking them questions. If they misinterpret what you were thinking to ask such a question, remember you're the one who opened your mouth and asked it. If I don't want people asking questions about what I'm thinking, then I keep my mouth shut AND I don't ask it on twitter AND I don't google it.

      The internet hasn't really changed the way interpersonal relationships worked, people only think it has. We had the same reading-between-the-lines problem 3000 years ago.

      Just remember using Google is like talking to a police officer. You are being watched, everything is being recorded, and anything you say can and will be used against you.

  10. This is terrible.... by technomom · · Score: 4, Funny

    For the ten people who use Allo to chat with other people.

    1. Re:This is terrible.... by geekmux · · Score: 2

      For the ten people who use Allo to chat with other people.

      ...a service that is owned and operated by Google. Also known as that not-so-small company.

      Gee, I can't wait to see more examples of don't-be-evil capitalism. Sure is a good thing they've got such an ethical motto to follow.

    2. Re:This is terrible.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A quick look at the install numbers at the Google Play store show tens of millions of installs. Ditto the Duo app.

      Most IT guys I know are Android users, not iPhone users. Now, this says nothing but about those in my own limited circle, but still, over 80% of the world's mobile phones run Android.

    3. Re:This is terrible.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You're conflating downloads with install base.

  11. Crossover by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    "Hey man, want to see a movie this weekend"?

    @Google Assistant @: I can tell from recent searches you are into hairy men, would you be our guest at a viewing of Beauty and the Beast?

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  12. Trust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You handed your house key to Google and then relied on its AI to determine what it should do. Now you are shocked that its AI made some bad decisions.

    This is not just with Google, but anytime you use a software which you trust most. This includes OS, Browser, Device drivers on PC, and even all downloaded apps as well (if you are always logged in with admin privilege account).

  13. A Logic Named Joe by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    Reminds me of this story:

    http://www.baen.com/chapters/W...

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    "When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
  14. Home and work addy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To be fair, you don't have to put your home and work address. Gmaps does this for you if you spend 9-5ish in one place predominantly and other times at home.

    You don't need Allo or your friends for this.

    1. Re:Home and work addy by green1 · · Score: 1

      I work primarily from home, when I do go in to "the office" it's random times and durations, and one of about a dozen different physical locations.

      If you asked me to give one specific location I wouldn't have been able to... but google still picked one, and as it turns out upon review, it really is the most appropriate of the locations.

      It's rather frightening when you realize that Google knows where your office is better than you do yourself.

  15. Depends what you call friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone with a master key to our Google search history is not my friend. Though, you should know better than to use Google anything.

  16. Wishfulthinking by aglider · · Score: 1

    Are you leaving your footprints on the internet?
    Forget about privacy!

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    Sent as ripples into the electromagnetic field. No single photon has been harmed in the process.
  17. allo I have a massage from Mich... by Idisagree · · Score: 1

    it says "Shut up, you silly old bat!"

    but seriously why is this a 'feature'? who needs this 'functionality'?

    ok google we know you are evil, but try not to be sadistic!

  18. Next up: jobs demand Allo history by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You read it in the headline

  19. You are not the customer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are the product. Never expect Google, or any entity to respect your privacy. I was about to say commercial entity, but then I remembered that non-profits are some of the worst traders in contact information.

  20. Business competition? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google and Microsoft are having a competition to see which company can be most abusive?

  21. Allo off the list of "apps to install" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Allo=spyware == true
    Allo installation preference == false