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The First Practical Use For Quantum Computers: Chemistry (technologyreview.com)

"The first quantum computer to start paying its way with useful work in the real world looks likely to do so by helping chemists," writes MIT Technology Review, "trying to do things like improve batteries or electronics." An anonymous reader quotes their report: So far, simulating molecules and reactions is the use case for early, small quantum computers sketched out in most detail by researchers developing the new kind of algorithms needed for such machines... "From the point of view of what is theoretically proven, chemistry is ahead," says Scott Crowder, chief technology officer for the IBM division that today sells hardware including supercomputers and hopes to add cloud-hosted quantum computers to its product line-up in the next few years...

Researchers have long used simulations of molecules and chemical reactions to aid research into things like new materials, drugs, or industrial catalysts. The tactic can reduce time spent on physical experiments and scientific dead ends, and it accounts for a significant proportion of the workload of the world's supercomputers. Yet the payoffs are limited because even the most powerful supercomputers cannot perfectly re-create all the complex quantum behaviors of atoms and electrons in even relatively small molecules, says Alan Aspuru-Guzik, a chemistry professor at Harvard. He's looking forward to the day simulations on quantum computers can accelerate his research group's efforts to find new light-emitting molecules for displays, for example, and batteries suitable for grid-scale energy storage.

Microsoft is already focusing on chemistry and materials science in its quantum algorithm effort, saying a hybrid system combining conventional computers with a small quantum computer "has great promise for studying molecules." Meanwhile, the article argues that breaking encryption, "although a genuine threat, is one of the most distant applications of the technology, because the algorithms involved would require an extremely large quantum processor."

42 comments

  1. So... we use a quantum computer to simulate... by cpotoso · · Score: 2

    So... we use a quantum computer to simulate... a quantum computer? LOL

    1. Re: So... we use a quantum computer to simulate... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um no, that would be more like physics, not chemistry.

    2. Re:So... we use a quantum computer to simulate... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So... we use a quantum computer to simulate... a quantum computer? LOL

      You laugh, but that's exactly how it works.
      Any quantum system is basically a quantum computer, but usually one for which we can't control the inputs or the "program".
      Like a Turing machine for classical computers, one quantum system can be used to exactly replicate another quantum system.
      And that other quantum system is one that will be programmable.

    3. Re: So... we use a quantum computer to simulate... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do you know the "outer" quantum system is not programmable too? :-)

    4. Re:So... we use a quantum computer to simulate... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      exactly and when we get an advanced dna computer its first practical application will probably be quantum mechanics.

    5. Re: So... we use a quantum computer to simulate... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It could be, but probably not by the "code" running inside it...

    6. Re:So... we use a quantum computer to simulate... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just install the quantum qemu.

  2. Always happy to hear about hardware progress by quax · · Score: 3, Informative

    But nothing report here is particularly new. It has been known for quite some time now that breaking encryption takes a lot of qubits, whereas quantum chemistry can be accelerated with relative modest qubits amounts, assuming they can implement universal QC gate model operations.

  3. So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It'll be like that 'Fringe' episode where the terrorist uses a quantum computer to create a toxin from three (four?) chemicals? I think it made the skin cover up the eyes, nostrils, and mouth.

    What I really want to see is a drug with the painkilling potency of fentanyl, the high of marijuana, the alertness from meth, and the ability to remain cognitively and physically functional (like nicotine), and none of the negative side effects. With a price of $0.05 per pill, and available at your friendly CVS and Walgreens, over-the-counter. Bonus points if it has a 12-24 hour half life with a rapidly increasing tolerance, preventing serious abuse.

    I mean, people will try to abuse it, but... wouldn't this be a nice type of drug to have after work?

    I was tempted to suggest adding LSD, but there can be... unpleasant consequences if too many people are using it at the same time. It's not good when too many people (hundreds of millions) are perceiving reality in non-standard ways.

    1. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not good when too many people (hundreds of millions) are perceiving reality in non-standard ways.

      Ummmm, have you tuned in to Fox News recently?

    2. Re: So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's those on the left who are always pushing for 'change'. They're the ones trying to redefine reality. On the other hand, those in the center and on the right deal with reality as it is.

    3. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not good when too many people (hundreds of millions) are perceiving reality in non-standard ways.

      Ummmm, have you tuned in to Fox News recently?

      You so funny. Not.

      And I bet you think the RUSSIANS!!!! are why Trump beat HilLIARy!, right?

      You fucking brain-dead twit.

    4. Re: So... by Streetlight · · Score: 1

      Seems to me the folks on the right, particularly the far right, want to go back to a time that never was or worse than now, than we have now. I'd rather be in the now and a better future given some of the problems of the past that have been solved, though the solutions haven't reached everywhere. I'm thinking particularly about SMOG in such places as southern California but not Beijing, health insurance in Germany or Sweden than the confusion we have in the US, and other situations. There's always the situation where new problems show up and need solutions, but ignoring them won't solve them.

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    5. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like I hit a nerve. Keep living in your Fox delusion bubble; we'll see which one goes to prison -- my money's on the Russian money launderer, pathological liar and grifter. Sad thing is, even THAT won't wake up people like you to the fact you've been played.

    6. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, Trump was a registered DUMBOcrat before he switched for the election. Either way, we would've ended up with a lieberal... the worst part is that Trump PAID TAXES in 2005. Oh, the indignity of it all!!

    7. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, you & the geniuses in YOUR party of mouth-breathers chose a one-year tax-payin' Democrat with many Russian ties to be your leader??
      But you were all bitching about Obama "not one of us"? Yah. GTFO & FOAD.

    8. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the fuck is wrong with you when seeing exciting, new technology immediately causes your mind to evaluate its usefulness for maximising degeneracy? We've got too much of it already. If anything, quantum computers should be used to research the most optimal way of using right wing death squads to hunt down and eradicate degeneracy and immorality from our society.

  4. Re: So... we use a quantum computer to simulate.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Physics is just a subset of chemistry. Matter, energy, and the forces between them are the fundamental topics of chemistry. Physics just applied them at a larger scale.

  5. not counting you know who by frovingslosh · · Score: 1

    So I guess we are not counting the NSA's code breaking quantum computer. Why not? I might be classified as secret, but it's hardly secret.

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  6. Classical physics had it easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Back in the days of classical physics, the state of an electron could be represented by a single point in six dimensional space. But, thanks to quantum physics, we now need a point in infinite dimensional space to represent the state of a single electron.

    1. Re:Classical physics had it easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can use six dimensions with quantum physics too, and still get a description that doesn't work.

  7. Re: So... we use a quantum computer to simulate.. by newcastlejon · · Score: 3, Informative

    Physics is a superset of chemistry.

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  8. The usual shameless Microsoft plug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    Slashdot is probably thoroughly greased by the foul Redmond beast.

  9. Another use by aglider · · Score: 1

    Simulating quantum computers, of course!

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  10. Cool, now we just need a quantum computer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am becoming increasingly worried that qubits are vaporware. We have yet to see any "real" quantum hardware, just stuff like DWave which appears to be interesting but superconductive magnetic bonding rather than quantum entanglement. Now that some of the big players like Intel are getting into it, we'll find out what's real.

  11. Re: So... we use a quantum computer to simulate. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is backwards. Physics encompasses it all. Physics isn't just baseball trajectories and planetary orbits, it is also the subatomic realm, and all the forces including those that are responsible for chemical interactions.

  12. Re: So... we use a quantum computer to simulate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chemistry focuses at the molecular level. Physics is everything else. Sort of...

  13. Re: So... we use a quantum computer to simulate. by Crashmarik · · Score: 2

    This is backwards. Physics encompasses it all. Physics isn't just baseball trajectories and planetary orbits, it is also the subatomic realm, and all the forces including those that are responsible for chemical interactions.

    It's all just a special case of mathematics

  14. Re: So... we use a quantum computer to simulate. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's all just a special case of mathematics

    Which is just one branch of science.

    captcha: forked

  15. Not that kind of chemistry by PPH · · Score: 1

    Slashdotters will still have to rely on Tinder.

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  16. Re: So... we use a quantum computer to simulate. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mathematics is just a way to describe reality. It's just a language, essentially. It isn't reality itself, though. An English description of a dog isn't the dog itself. Likewise, the mathematical equations describing a physical phenomenon aren't the phenomenon itself. Physics and chemistry use mathematics to describe reality. But the maths aren't reality.

  17. Starting to..? by Niobe · · Score: 1

    This has been the idea from the beginning.

    1. Re:Starting to..? by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      This. Source: R. P. Feynman: Simulating Physics with Computers, Int. J. Theor. Phys. 21 (1982) 467.

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  18. Yet another article.. by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    to allude to the concept of bits and making logic gates second class citizens not to be mentioned.

  19. Re: Right and left by hackwrench · · Score: 0

    The left wants others to change and as a YouTuber calling himself Sargon of Akkad noted refuse to change themselves. The right, ascribe to outdated notions of the what reality is. I, on the otherâ hand, attempt to learn about reality as it really is and use that information to make changes I prefer.

  20. Re: So... we use a quantum computer to simulate.. by BitterOak · · Score: 1

    Physics is a superset of chemistry.

    I guess that depends if you're talking to a physicist or a chemist.

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  21. Re: So... we use a quantum computer to simulat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's nuclear and particle physics which is working with subatomic particles, elements and isotopes.

    Basic physics involves rules of motion, energy exchange including photons and electrons.

    Basic chemistry involves working with molecules and atomic bonding.

    Astrophysics involves astronomy and stellar processes, so that involves both nuclear physics and chemistry.

  22. Not the first. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

    The first practical use of quantum computers was scaring cryptographers and causing them to invent post-quantum cryptography to protect our information. The amazing thing is that they managed to do this without physically existing.

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  23. Re: So... we use a quantum computer to simulate.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  24. Maybe a Beowulf Cluster of Quantum Computers ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Erf.

  25. Re: So... we use a quantum computer to simulate. by tsa · · Score: 1

    No. Mathematics is used to make models that describe reality. But those models are not reality. Reality is not mathematics.

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  26. Re: So... we use a quantum computer to simulate. by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

    Really ? you seem very certain of that.