Slashdot Mirror
18 To 24-Year-Olds Are Hitting the Big Screen at Lower Rates (fastcompany.com)
An anonymous reader shares a report: For data and movie geeks, the MPAA's latest "Theatrical Market Statistics" report is a wealth of information about the health of the movie business. The big picture: 246 million people went to the movies in the United States and Canada last year, a 2% increase from the year before. But dig into the trends and things start to get a little more interesting. For instance, looking at per capita attendance broken down by age group shows 18- to 24-year-olds are hitting the big screen at lower rates than they were in 2012, although they saw an uptick last year.
They're broke that's why.
Ticket prices keep going up with inflation, wages not so much.
Perhaps if there was something worth watching...
Something other than re-hashed comic books perhaps...
1. money. boomers spent a generation ruining any chance of a millenial or post millenials ability to buy anything more than a bus pass.
2. Theaters. Exorbitant fees for tickets and concessions price most of them well outside the range of the 18-24 demographic. the ones that can afford it, generally avoid it and wait for the online/blu-ray. The theatre experience is sticky floors and 30 minutes of capitive audience advertisements for everything from car insurance to taco bell, and its an insult to anyone whos paid actual money to sit down and see a film.
3. films.: six sequels to the fast and the furious? Ten remakes of Cinderella? thats not film, its the conceptual blueprint for purgatory. The average film experience is either waiting for the next release of 17 new and well planned Marvel movies, or enduring a wasteland of film targeted at the fifth grade comprehension level so as to maximize audience range. Pixar used to churn out a good film, but frankly theyre just in it for the toy licensing (Cars 3 anyone?)
Good people go to bed earlier.
The last few times that I went to the cinema, I was very disappointment with the experience.
The last thing I saw was in 3D, so I had to pay an additional 5 bucks. So, 40 bucks for two people. Then 5 bucks for the "small" 200 ounce soda and another 5 bucks for a "small" dumpster full of popcorn.
Then you sit down in the grungy seat and watch the movie. Then notice that the audio is not really calibrated all that well.
Then the movie is over and you try to pry your shoes from the soda glue all over the floor. Maybe you even use the bathroom with the pervasive urine smell and racist comments carved into the doors.
Yeah... Hard to imagine that attendance is down.
I don't know a single gen Z that is conservative, not a single one, and I live in the middle of the red-state midwest.
It's really odd to blame Trump for the current state of the economy. He has been in power for only 2 months. Democrats have been delaying the confirmations of his nominees for various administrative positions, too, which has limited what he had done and can do.
The current economic problems aren't because of the administration that has been in partial control for only 2 months. These are problems thst go back to the last two administrations.
Excuse me for interrupting your "Leftist Hollywood Sucks Bad And Gen Z Rejects It" propaganda broadcast, but precisely WHAT is wrong with films having a "Social Justice" or "Social/Societal Progress" message woven into the narrative? Would you prefer films where all sorts of injustices happen, and those injustices are not corrected by a protagonist or an outraged society or a government? Films where people suffer racism, abuse, discrimination, violence and other injustices, and nobody does anything about it? I would also like you to explain to me what a "Social Justice Warrior" is, since I hear that term thrown around by righties here all the time, even though you haven't used it in your post. Somebody who sees injustice and speaks out or fights against it is a SJW? And that's a "bad thing thing to be" that Generation Z sees right through and won't let happen anymore? Is this your worldview? Do you dream of a world where a "very different" right-leaning Gen Z rejects "social justice" and "being progressive" as "just evil propaganda" and turns into a kind of Hitler-Youth where "might is right" and where if you are mistreated "that's your problem, not society's problem"?
Why did the chicken cross the road? Because Elon Musk put an AI chip in its head.
Most people are posting the same 2 view points (with the 3rd probably being simply the experience sucks because reasons):
1.) Home theater systems are so much better now, mine is amazing and/or there are amazing ones available.
2.) People, especially in the 18-24 yo age group, are fucking poor and can't afford to go to the movies (most of these are ignoring the obvious, that they can't afford the home theater system either).
I'm not in either of those 2 categories (more like the 3rd, without the money or inclination for a huge home theater, apartment dweller and not rich with a deep loathing of crowds), but this seems like a poll worthy topic (no I didn't check to see if it already exists) with "Cowboy Neal is my projectionist" as a 4th?
To paraphrase a German comedian, I need money, not an occupation. I can keep myself busy just fine, don't worry about that.
Working is the necessary evil to get money. Just as much as the employee is the necessary evil to profit (as is the customer, by the way). Stop dancing around the subject and celebrate the "always working" idiot.
Working is the necessary evil, not the goal.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Your vehicle numbers are way off.
A 2017 Ram 1500 base truck is about $26,500 MSRP, which probably means it can be had for $25,000 at the dealer if buying off the lot. If you want the base as a 4x4 it's about $31,500 MSRP, which can probably still be had for under $30,000 out the door.
A Ram Promaster 1500 (based on the large Fiat van chassis) is around $30,000 MSRP. The 2500 model is $33,000 MSRP and the 3500 is about $36,000 MSRP, all as cargo configurations. The passenger variants, only availabe as a 2500 chassis and a 3500 chassis are $34,500 MSRP and $38,500 MSRP respectively, and given that there are a lot more parts on the passenger versions this $1500-$2500 markup isn't unreasonable.
Now, if you want the Laramie package, or you want all leather, or you want the megacab with the 8' bed and the Longhorn custom interior with the Katzin seats, yeah, you're going to be spending quite a bit more. Thing is, you don't really need that stuff. You might need a stronger engine in the base model truck, but those modern V6 engines that all three domestic automakers use are quite good, better than their entry-level V8s were only a generation ago. You probably don't need that upgraded configuration.
If your numbers are coming in $60,000 for a cargo van and $45,000 for a pickup truck, it's because of standards that you set.
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
Regal in my area is adapting quite well aiming for the older crowd. They've changed their seating out for reclinable seats. You can order your ticket online and reserve your seat, so no fighting in line to get the best seats, just order online a week in advance and you're guaranteed your spot. The Seats are huge. https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.... https://s3-media1.fl.yelpcdn.c...
A bit more expensive than I would like, but for the few times I go see the movies I'm okay paying ~$9.50 on a matinee ticket and ~$15 on 3D ticket when I know I'll be comfortable.
Do you Gentoo!?
Not the original poster, but social justice warrior is someone who takes a look at something and defines it in terms of social injustice, almost always without looking at it very deeply, and feels the compulsion to fix that injustice no matter the cost.
For example:
A company has 5 entry level workers, we'll call them A,B,C,D,and E. A (male with 10 years experience, and the best worker) gets paid $15/hr, B and C (one male one female each with 8 years experience) $14 and hour, D (3 years experience) is paid $13 and hour, and E (15 years experience, but mentally retarded) is paid $10 an hour. The SJW boss comes in and "fixes" the social injustice (C was female and should be paid equal pay, D was discriminated by age or whatever the latest fad is, E should be paid just as much because they have the same job regardless of productivity) by taking the average $13.20. Feeling awesome at fixing this social injustice he goes and celebrates. 2 weeks later, employee A leaves the company because a competitor gave him a raise to $20 an hour as he was been grossly underpaid given his skills. A couple weeks after being overworked, employees B & C leave the company because they can't keep up with the workload now that A has left, and they can't perform at the level he was. The company is now left with one employee who is just out of college has no industry experience and continues to make mistakes that A, B, or C never would have. The company while trying to find replacements for A, B and C can't find any except new college graduates. Product quality suffers, quantity production is in the toilet, and a month later the company goes bankrupt. Employee D loaded with college debt, takes the first job he finds at $12 an hour, and Employee E is out of work, back on social programs, and lives the life as a hermit in their 10'x10' apartment.
SJW moves on to the next company, touting how awesome of a job he did at his previous employer right before they went out of business.
Right, wrong, or indifferent, that is what a SJW is -- looking for social injustices, finding them where they don't really exist, and fighting to get the fixed, no matter the cost or if they should be.
From what I know about Rightists and Alt-Rightists this is their view on Social Justice and SJW:
"Social Justice" is a set of petty, morally bankrupt and often contradictory ideas presented as a justice that all people should follow and believe. Like giving certain groups of people more rights than others for the sake of correcting discrimination, in their view that is unfair and just another form of discrimination.
"Social Justice Warrior" is a person indoctrinated by this ideology and who fights to spread it.
Also, I would like to say something that is my own opinion: avoid accusing or implying a group of people have a connection or agree with Adolf Hitler's ideas, even if not totally unfounded. I say it because:
-It generally doesn't bring them or others to agree with you if they don't already
-it is a problematic tactic that can make you look desperate and/or aggressive
-You might force the other side of the argument to be completely hostile to you, turning a discussion into a fight when that could be avoided by exerting moderation.
4- long movies.
Seeing a movie is part of a night out with friends/family/date, it shouldn't be the entire night.
Slashdot social media options: AIM, ICQ, Yahoo, Jabber and Mobile Text. Why no MySpace?
Old guy here, I rarely go to movie theaters because most films don't interest me (last film I saw was Hidden Figures, before it was The Aviator), it is a PITA to get to the theater (even on weekends driving in Silicon Valley with so many stoplights and heavy traffic), and it seems I have so many other activities that taking 3 to 4 hours to go watch a movie is a good chunk of time. It probably is same for many other generations, it seems theaters are not as packed as it was years ago (back in the days large parking lots were full and huge long lines for tickets). So while everyone argues political reasons, what another offtopic discussion such as "Hollywood Accounting?" You know where there are huge gross revenues, actors making millions, and Hollywood says they are losing big money due to piracy or various movies didn't make much profits (i.e. Harry Potter).
mfwright@batnet.com
Have you considered that Mainstream movies - which are watched around the world - have a big impact on people who don't read or think much, or don't have a good education, or have been indoctrinated into holding socially destructive views? I have an education that steered me away from engaging in racism, intolerance, prejudice and so forth from a very young age. But there still is a shitload of racism, intolerance, prejudice, sexism and other nastiness in the world. Hundreds of thousands of people in different countries and communities around the world encounter it every day. THAT is what the "social justice" message in movies is all about. You are showing people who actively engage in injustice loud and clear that injustice isn't something good or tolerable. And you are sending a message to victims of injustice that they are not alone, that injustice can be fought if you stand up to it and fight it. I see nothing wrong with such a message. What I DO see as wrong is arguing that these themes should be removed from the movies - that the problems addressed will simply "fade away by themselves" if nobody talks about them or makes films about them. Problems don't "go away" if you stop talking about them or pretend they don't exist. In fact, injustice would quickly become "normalized" if you didn't address it in films, on television, in books and journalism. Anybody could do whatever they want to another person, and nobody would make films or TV programs about it, or report on it anymore. That isn't the kind of world I want to live in.
Why did the chicken cross the road? Because Elon Musk put an AI chip in its head.
"Promotes unsustainable ideals" you say. I see... So if a blatant injustice happens to someone, they shouldn't "scream out loud" or expect that injustice to be redressed in any way, because that would be "unsustainable ideals" at work. May I ask: Precisely WHAT are the ideals you hold dear, and how are THEY sustainable, while other ideals are not?
Why did the chicken cross the road? Because Elon Musk put an AI chip in its head.
The Ford Raptor is a beautiful beast, though.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Terms like "Social Justice" are selected because they have the ability to end arguments without ever having one. When some, like the OP, here the term justice they immediately assume that anyone agrees with the position is right, and anyone who disagrees is unjust, and wrong. Since no thought is ever given to the underlying idea, it is very easy for harmful or even evil ideas being as "Justice".
People tend to be very excited to sign on to "justice" causes, until it effects them personally. For example, a typical SJW maybe very much in favor of rules that help the poor, especially when that means someone else needs to give them money for something. After all, what kind of heartless ass does not want to help the poor? If they got it, and you don't, you should get some too..... But, if you point out the SJW that they are in fact very rich, being a member of the Western world, and they should perhaps give up 30% of their money and things to help someone in the developing world, they seldom are in favor of doing so. It does not matter if you can point out that statistically and materially the SJW who has the internet, abundant running water, and iPhone, transportation, a luxurious (by the standards of the third world) apartment etc. is as wealthy to their third world counterpart as they are compared to a "rich" person, they have no interest in hearing this. Rich is always other people. Justice is always something someone else must sacrifice for. Why? Because it is not justice in the real sense of the word.
To the credit of generation Z( or whatever you are calling them), they are starting to notice that the very narrow world view propagated by the ruling class politicians and mass media is not matching with reality. They are actually thinking, observing, and reading more sources. Trying to win arguments by mere labels or tribal grunting is wearing thin. For the first time in a while, there might be hope of having honest discussions and attempting to solve problems instead of having policy be slogan.
"Liberalism is a very noble idea, currently controlled by some very bad people. Be sure you do not get the two confused.
, I want stop complaining about Trump. He's neither a conservative nor Republican,
He's not establishment conservative nor Republican. He's very much channeling the political will of the American working class, plus those of us fed up with the corruptness and political theater of the "establishment-media complex".
Establishment Republicans, Democrats, and the old-school media (but I repeat myself) are all utterly dismissive of a very large chunk of voters in this democracy, talking down to them, calling them ignorant and racist, and in general saying "let them eat cake". A sentiment frequently repeated by Slashdot posters, I might add.
Fuck that. Trump may be far from my ideal candidate, much like Bernie was, but the vast hatred for him by the establishment, and all the self-described elite who think they're just better people than those working class brutes, demonstrates he's a "good enough" choice. I'm not a big Trump fan, but I loath the modern hipster-pseudo-intellectual progressive crowd, so: you go Trump, kick some ass.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
> I would also like you to explain to me what a "Social Justice Warrior" is
Replace the words with:
Stupid
Juvenile
Whiner
and you'll start to understand it what it means.
SJW is (typically) a dumb Gen Z with a pet peeve over some perceived bullshit "injustice" -- basically anything that doesn't agree with THEIR myopic philosophy. Now instead of actually _doing_ something AFTER careful analysis of BOTH sides of the issue, because issues are almost never black and white, they would rather have a knee-jerk reaction and whine about it instead.
For more information see the book:
SJWs Always Lie: Taking Down the Thought Police
There is no reasoning with these irrational people. They believe their POV (point-of-view) is the ONLY right one and blindly ignore facts. The classic attack is the ad hominem using labels as misogynist, trigger, microagression, etc. They are so insecure with their immaturity that they have to attack everyone else who doesn't agree with them. It is the ultimate Political Censorship gone wrong.
South Park poked fun of their stupidity in Season 19 by calling them Pussy Crushers
* Truth and Advertising
* PC Principal or DailyMotion
The only valid tactic is to ignore these whiney cunts -- because they make the classic Internet Trolls look like Saints in comparison -- otherwise you are just wasting your time.
You can fix ignorant.
You can't fix Stupid (Juvenile Whiners.)
My Presidential vote history:
Reagan, Bush, Perot, Dole, Bush, Kerry, Obama, Obama, (Sanders) well, fine. Clinton. Since I have no choice. Dammit. At least its not Trump.
Your affiliation may change as you learn more. Which way it goes depends on how you feel about what you learned. Conservatives used to be about being fiscal conservatives and small government, hands off on the rest. Now they are about social conservative and HUGE government. They say small government, but their vote history is always HUUUUUUGE military and corporate control and the rest gutted to make the military even more HUUUUGE and corporate control more profitable. Fuck that, I am no fascist. Time to reign this runaway horse back toward the middle, and maybe a little left of there.