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Feds: We're Pulling Data From 100 Phones Seized During Trump Inauguration (arstechnica.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: In new filings, prosecutors told a court in Washington, DC that within the coming weeks, they expect to extract all data from the seized cellphones of more than 100 allegedly violent protesters arrested during the inauguration of President Donald Trump. Prosecutors also said that this search is validated by recently issued warrants. The court filing, which was first reported Wednesday by BuzzFeed News, states that approximately half of the protestors prosecuted with rioting or inciting a riot had their phones taken by authorities. Prosecutors hope to uncover any evidence relevant to the case. Under normal judicial procedures, the feds have vowed to share such data with defense attorneys and to delete all irrelevant data. "All of the Rioter Cell Phones were locked, which requires more time-sensitive efforts to try to obtain the data," Jennifer Kerkhoff, an assistant United States attorney, wrote. Such phone extraction is common by law enforcement nationwide using hardware and software created by Cellebrite and other similar firms. Pulling data off phones is likely more difficult under fully updated iPhones and Android devices.

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  1. So, the gist of it is... by Powercntrl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...if you're going to a protest, bring a burner phone. Bonus points if you set the wallpaper to goatse.

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    1. Re:So, the gist of it is... by Shatrat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But the entire point of going to the protest is to put selfies of it up on social media to impress your friends and piss off that one uncle.

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    2. Re:So, the gist of it is... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      or don't bring one at all..

      Then how are you going to coordinate the riot?

    3. Re:So, the gist of it is... by HornWumpus · · Score: 1, Insightful

      That would require intelligence. Remember who we're talking about.

      Losers throwing emotional hissy fits aren't known for well thought out plans.

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    4. Re:So, the gist of it is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      youre almost as insane as the Orange babboon.

      Who won... unlike the losers out in the street throwing a temper tantrum.

      Thanks for demonstrating yet again, how/why Trump won.

    5. Re:So, the gist of it is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Who didnt win the popular vote, and is obviously insane, of course they are rioting, the whole place needs burning down.
      Meanwhile, the right wing scum are violent every day, bit of projecting going on I reckon, btw, I live in a civillised country not a shithole of dumbfuckery like the US, where you only have right and far right, its so amusing you think you have a left wing.

  2. Or just don't violently riot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Or better yet, just don't violently riot because your candidate fairly lost an election.

    Time and time again we've seen recent leftist-organized protests turn violent. This inauguration rioting is just one case. Another notable case is that of the Ferguson rioting that occurred near St. Louis several years ago.

    The Ferguson case is particularly absurd, because there was absolutely no basis for the protests to begin with. A thug violently attacked a police officer who was investigating a violent robbery perpetrated by that thug. The police officer did the only reasonable thing given the circumstances and the violence of the attack, and defended himself using deadly force. Leftists threw an unjustified shit fit over this justifiable act of self defense, they rioted, and serious property damage resulted.

    Another case involved the riots in Baltimore during 2015.

    If leftists chose to practice peaceful, civilized protesting, then they wouldn't devolve into riots so often. If they didn't devolve into riots so often, then these leftists wouldn't find themselves being arrested and their phones confiscated.

    1. Re: Or just don't violently riot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The Ferguson case is particularly absurd, because there was absolutely no basis for the protests to begin with. A thug violently attacked a police officer who was investigating a violent robbery perpetrated by that thug.

      Actually, what has recently been revealed is that no violent robbery occurred, and the police released an edited video just to perpetuate their lies.

      What we did learn, however, is that the Department of Justice was able to present a copious report showing the level of abuses inflicted upon the citizens of Ferguson due to a city government that was not accountable to the people, and a police department that actually induced riots by its hardline stance of oppression.

      Another case involved the riots in Baltimore during 2015.

      You mean after the murder of Freddie Gray by the thugs in blue?

      Another police department with documented abuses of the public.

      Add in the NYPD, the LAPD, Chicago PD, Cincinnati, that South Carolina shooting, and the abuses in the prison system, and you start to think that maybe law enforcement has a severe problem with how it treats the people it is supposed to serve and protect.

      Oh well, at least the worst Sheriff in America was voted out of office. Of course, now we have another one, who insists that pregnant inmates remain handcuffed while giving birth. Don't you feel wonderful about that?

      Maybe the problem isn't where you think it is.

  3. Re:Two things: by sound+vision · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I can't remember ever borrowing or watching someone open their phone and there wasn't a lock on it. Yes, an actual lock with some kind of code, not just "slide to unlock". Actually, and I'm really really thinking deeply now, I did see one phone without a lock on it. It was a flip phone that was owned by my mother and never used.

    I would wager that the number of unlocked phones at a violent protests is about the same as the number of flip phones. Very low, but non-zero. Will you see one in a sample of 100? Maybe, maybe not.

    Now, what may have happened to skew the sample is that people who unlocked their phones for the cops weren't arrested. Or, their phones weren't confiscated as evidence.

  4. RICO by sycodon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Can we say RICO?

    If they can establish the violence was planned and coordinated, how many years is that?

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    1. Re: RICO by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You can say it, you just have no idea what it actually applies to, because there is absolutely zero chance that there was any racketeering involved. You seem to think RICO is about crowd mobs rather than Italian ones.

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    2. Re: RICO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      " He came to power by forging a sword made of hate, fear, innuendo, lies, manipulation, false allegations, bigotry, and misogyny."

      Clinton tried to come to power by forging a sword made of hate, fear, innuendo, lies, manipulation...
      ...and false allegations OF bigotry, and misogyny.

      It was quite efficient too. She didn't win, but you DID believe her lies.

  5. Define "protest" by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Setting fires to cars and smashing windows is not a "protest".

    You would think criminals would already know to use burner phones...

    But then how would these gangsters be able to adequately send a selfie to Instagram in front of a smashed up store or burning vehicle? The cameras on burner phones suck, not to mention it would't have your Starbucks card loaded.

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  6. Missing operant term by s.petry · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The people arrested didn't seem to be the deluge of selfie taking people. The recommendation should be to simply not be violent at a protest so that you are not arrested, which results in the confiscation of your phone (and generally a good chuck of cash, and perhaps anal virginity).

    I'm probably one of the most pro Free Speech people you will ever meet. Free Speech does not include any form of violence. See the Non Aggression Principle

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  7. Re:What a letdown... by Somebody+Is+Using+My · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I really do not see that much of an issue with this.

    The government got a warrant to search the electronic devices. These devices were seized at the time of arrest. Rather than require the owners to unlock the phones - potentially violating our protected right against self-incrimination - they are using third-party software to hack the devices. The government intends - admittedly, as legally required - to share all gathered information with the defense lawyers - and are pledging to delete any information not relevant to the case.

    You can make the argument that some of the people arrested during the riots are innocent. That may be true, but irrelevant to the issue at hand: that the government is searching these devices. You might argue that the government may use the information gleaned from the devices in ways that are not covered by the warrant, and that is a legitimate worry but there is no evidence that is happening. But given that these people were arrested, we should expect the prosecutors to use all available legal means to build a case against the defendants. That they are searching the phones is as much a story if the police had gotten a warrant to seize the defendants diaries (which is to say, not much of a story) .

    The fact is, there were apparently riots during the inauguration. I am no supporter of Trump but that's just shameful; there's nothing wrong with assembly and protest but some people went beyond that. People were arrested and honestly I would expect the government to try them for their actions. There is a lot I find worrisome about Trump's government, but this is not one of them; this is a case where everything seems to be done legitimately and by-the-book.

  8. Maybe not by dbIII · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Load them up with tantalizing information that wastes a ton of investigation time

    Maybe not.
    Your time gets wasted a lot as well answering questions.
    As an (old) example Steve Jackson Games employees had a lot of trouble over the "GURPS Cyberpunk" game rules after a Secret Service raid despite it being extremely obvious fantasy/SF (1990, so the computer you are using today would have been wild SF let alone cyberpunk stuff).
    http://www.sjgames.com/SS/
    Your obvious fabrication, selectively quoted, could end up resulting in serious prison time for you if it looks like somebody can get a promotion for catching conspiritators.


    Thinking about it as if you are going to be dealing with an ideal justice system is probably a very bad idea. I'd say expect less comic book more Kafka (or similar eastern european writer describing a corrupt justice system).