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Trump Extends Obama Executive Order On Cyberattacks (infoworld.com)

"U.S. President Donald Trump is extending by one year special powers introduced by former President Barack Obama that allow the government to issue sanctions against people and organizations engaged in significant cyberattacks and cybercrime against the U.S.," according to InfoWorld. An anonymous reader quotes their report: Executive Order 13694 was introduced on April 1, 2015, and was due to expire on Saturday, but the president sent a letter to Congress on Wednesday evening informing it of his plans to keep it active. Significant malicious cyber-enabled activities originating from, or directed by persons located, in whole or in substantial part, outside the United States, continue to pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States," Trump wrote in the letter. "Therefore, I have determined that it is necessary to continue the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13694 with respect to significant malicious cyber-enabled activities."

The executive order gave the U.S. new powers to retaliate for hacking of critical infrastructure, major denial of service attacks or large scale economic hacking. It was expanded in December 2016 to include election-related systems and used to sanction Russian agents and organizations for their alleged role in a series of attacks during the presidential election.

35 comments

  1. Obama backstabs us again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This part "directed by persons located, in whole or in substantial part, outside the United States" means that Obama, and later Trump, can spy on anyone if they claim they think they're directed by someone outside of the US.

    1. Re: Obama backstabs us again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obama used this for good so you can't blame him. He shouldn't have allowed us to become rump-ruled, but no thinking person thought that would happen.

    2. Re:Obama backstabs us again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I've got bad news for you if you think they couldn't spy on you until this executive order came along

    3. Re: Obama backstabs us again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He hates the people. He could have stopped Trump but decided not to because of his hatred for us.

    4. Re: Obama backstabs us again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you think the original EO was a backstab by Obama then you must feel Trump's continued use of it is also a backstab.

    5. Re: Obama backstabs us again by dougdonovan · · Score: 1

      well theres 1 thing obama did right in 8 years that trump caught...do i hear 2 or is that pushing it.

    6. Re: Obama backstabs us again by JustNiz · · Score: 1

      Nope I think you're right. I can't think of one other thing.

    7. Re: Obama backstabs us again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, because that would mean he was wrong. the Donald and his supporters don't admit when they are wrong. It's a sign of weakness.

  2. "Flagged"? by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

    Trump Extends Obama Executive Order On Cyberattacks [Flagged]

    What?

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    1. Re:"Flagged"? by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 1

      Trump Extends Obama Executive Order On Cyberattacks [Flagged]

      What?

      I figure it's an editor thing...
      Submission had too many receivers down field or maybe Roughing the editor...
      Either way it's 15 yards and resubmit story so it will dup...

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    2. Re:"Flagged"? by s.petry · · Score: 1

      What is the date? Ohhhhhhhhh....

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    3. Re:"Flagged"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is the date? Ohhhhhhhhh....

      Still lost.....

    4. Re:"Flagged"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hacker News flags political posts

    5. Re:"Flagged"? by acrimonious+howard · · Score: 1

      Either way it's 15 yards and resubmit story so it will dup...

      What?

    6. Re:"Flagged"? by acrimonious+howard · · Score: 1

      Hacker News flags political posts

      Thankyou! I was about to say, if this is an April Fools joke, a lot of people are in on it:
      http://www.pcworld.com/article...
      https://insidecybersecurity.co...
      https://www.whitehouse.gov/the...

  3. Not an April Fool Joke? by acroyear · · Score: 1

    At first I figured it had to be, since as far as I can tell, this is the first of Obama's executive orders that Trump or Congress HAVEN'T rescinded.

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    1. Re:Not an April Fool Joke? by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      this is the first of Obama's executive orders that Trump or Congress HAVEN'T rescinded

      Other than the fact that's just plainly, factually incorrect ... why wonder if it's a joke? Even Obama took advice from a few people who knew what they were talking about and weren't blowing politically-motivated smoke, and he acted on such things as anyone in that office would do. Being able to drop the sanction hammer on obvious bad actors screwing around with things like massive DDoS attacks and the like is just sensible. Going around the legislature to do some of the things he (Obama) did with immigration or over-reaching via the EPA aren't the same thing.

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    2. Re:Not an April Fool Joke? by chipschap · · Score: 2

      Actually now I'm waiting to hear why something that was good when Obama did it is now bad when Trump does the exact same thing.

      I'm sure I won't have to wait for long.

    3. Re:Not an April Fool Joke? by rtb61 · · Score: 2

      You would think they would at least do an addedum to exclude spoofed or false flag attacks. So apparently this is a new trade scam and corporate competition scam. Having trouble with a foriegn competitor no problem pay a NSA or CIA contractor and they will launch an attack to mimic you competitors and then incompetent FBI will blame them and pet politicians can then sanction them, new US business practice.

      I can image the US sanction the entire rest of the world, country by country and company by company, and then wonder why no one wants to trade with them and don't want their funny money made up dollars.

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    4. Re:Not an April Fool Joke? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While you're waiting, why don't you show us all the research you did that showed that everyone thought it was a good thing when Obama did it.

      You wouldn't want us to think you were throwing out strawman arguments, after all, and a bit of evidence would go a long way toward proving that you aren't.

    5. Re:Not an April Fool Joke? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sorry that you want more lead in your water.

    6. Re:Not an April Fool Joke? by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry that you're a slow-witted anonymous coward.

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  4. Because Trump is NOT a capitalist by shanen · · Score: 1

    Still don't know whether or not it's an April Fool's Joke and whether or not you're some kind of troll, but pretending there was some sincerity under your comment, and trying to treat it as a question, here's why:

    American capitalism has died. Old-fashioned capitalism has now mutated into something that we should call corporate cancerism. The Russians have basically the same thing, though they got there by a different route. Now we are witnessing a battle royale between two strains of economic cancer. #PresidentTweety has no idea what is going on, but his last handler told him this was a good thing to do (or not, in the April Fool's case).

    Corporations win, humans lose. Have a nice day?

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    1. Re:Because Trump is NOT a capitalist by chipschap · · Score: 2

      Actually my comment was quite sincere and not trolling. Now, I did NOT vote for Trump nor did I support him. Neither do I hate him; I try not to hate anyone.

      My intent was simply to point out that at least as I see it, Obama got rather gentle treatment from the public and the press. (I am not making a judgment as to whether that was or was not warranted.) Trump gets very harsh treatment from (much of) the public and the press. (Again, no judgment as to justification.)

      What happens, though, is that objectivity is lost. Everything Obama did is "good." Everything Trump does is "bad." Even if they are one and the same thing.

    2. Re:Because Trump is NOT a capitalist by shanen · · Score: 2

      Now I'm about 75% convinced that you're a troll. There really is an objective reality and it matters.

      Perhaps I'm too tepid a "supporter", but I have never met a supporter of President Obama who thought that everything he did was good.

      Perhaps I'm too tepid an "opponent" of #PresidentTweety, but I have only seen a couple of Trump's actions that were good. Unfortunately most of them were in the category of "Apple pie tastes good." In general, the Donald's grip on such crucial realities as climate change is quite weak, but the sad part to me is that he isn't actually putting ideology ahead of reality. I've concluded that he just doesn't care. Never had to, and isn't about to start now.

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    3. Re:Because Trump is NOT a capitalist by JustNiz · · Score: 1

      >> Still don't know whether or not it's an April Fool's Joke and whether or not you're some kind of troll,

      It's pretty clear that you're the troll here.

    4. Re:Because Trump is NOT a capitalist by chipschap · · Score: 1

      Now I'm about 75% convinced that you're a troll. There really is an objective reality and it matters.

      If you want to think I'm a troll, I can't stop you. But you've perhaps inadvertently supported my point.

      There certainly is an objective reality, but with the polarization of the media, etc., are we really getting to that objective reality?

    5. Re:Because Trump is NOT a capitalist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obama didn't lie his ass off every second of the day, and they lie about it when the world called him on his original lies.

  5. What about the H1B executive order? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought the deadline was yesterday for this year's applications. But maybe talking a good game, w/o doing anything will satisfy Trump's voters again.

  6. Re: Public masturbation of 692889 by shanen · · Score: 1

    Z^1

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  7. Re: Public masturbation of 692889 by JustNiz · · Score: 1

    Thanks for proving my point, troll.

  8. Re: Public masturbation of 692889 by shanen · · Score: 1

    Z^2

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  9. Re: Public masturbation of 692889 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is amazing. It's like that cripple fight episode on south park. you're a troll - no you're the troll. when you two get finished insulting each other - maybe a fight where one slaps the other then you yell for half an hour?

    Thanks for the entertainment jizznuts. You're both trolls. Short, ugly, bad skin, overweight, unshowered, no style, and you hide under the bridge while normal people walk on it.

  10. Cyber? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most countries are migrating to Linux, even Russia. When is the USA going to use a better Operating System to reduce Cyber Threats?