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This Year's H-1B Visa Applications Look A Lot Like Last Year's (newsweek.com)
"This year's round of H-1B visa program applications was scheduled to launch Monday, and it was largely absent of President Donald Trump's proposed policy changes," writes Newsweek. An anonymous reader quotes their report:
The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services last updated its online page dedicated to the program, which granted visas to skilled foreign workers, Wednesday with the rules mostly similar to those of last year and quotas remaining the same. These requirements were set to launch despite Trump's vow to reform the program on the grounds that companies exploited it to fill jobs once held by U.S. citizens who earned higher wages.
An alleged draft of an executive order was leaked last month and widely circulated, raising fears that the administration was preparing to gut the program. These measures were never announced. "There was a window in which the White House could have made serious reforms," Russ Harrison, head of government relations for the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers-USA, told The Wall Street Journal. "For whatever reason, they decided not to take it."
An alleged draft of an executive order was leaked last month and widely circulated, raising fears that the administration was preparing to gut the program. These measures were never announced. "There was a window in which the White House could have made serious reforms," Russ Harrison, head of government relations for the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers-USA, told The Wall Street Journal. "For whatever reason, they decided not to take it."
Imagine that, trump sold out his voters.
The story is framed as bad but isn't it better that they take some time to craft a reasonable update to the policy? Trump has been president just a bit over two months now!
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Imagine this: you live in the slums in Mumbai. Your father goes thru trash every day, hoping to find tin cans to sell, and your mother tries to sell home-made bread on the market to feed all of your 6 brothers and sisters. Now you get the opportunity to get a three year degree in software engineering and go to the U.S. to work for a tech company. You have no clue about all the politics surrounding H1-B in the U.S., and you don't know that you will be grossly underpaid comparing to your American peers.
Who would not take this opportunity with both hands?
I've worked with many Indian people on an H1-B, and my anecdotal evidence is that they really are just like everyone else. Some are good, some are a bit less. But all share the same hope and dreams of being able to permanently stay in the U.S. and doing it the legal way.
Instead of only discussing those pesky Indians taking American jobs, let's keep this in mind as well. Let's focus on the companies that are responsible for the abuse of the program. Southern California Edison, Disney, etc. Wipro and Infosys committing visa fraud. These are the bad guys, not Balu from Bombai.
I'm not a complete idiot... Some parts are missing.
No. I don't want to keep that in mind. Indians should fix India. I see little reason to give a damn that Indians can't be bothered to take a shot at a first rate society while they leech ours, driving down our standard of living.
The program is repeatedly lobbied for by these companies. It needs to go. That, or these companies should relocate to Mumbai and America should embargo their goods/services and release their patents to the public so that new startups can fill the void. Infosys and friends can see how well SaaS and other insanely overpriced abstract IT rubbish sell to people who can't keep the lights on and who think proper sanitation is shitting in fields and on beaches.
Oh that patronizing response again. I don't remember your side "getting over it" when you were the losers. We got to look at your "Impeach Obama" bumper stickers and the rest of your crap for eight years.
Guess what. We're not going away. So you can just Shut The Fuck Up with your "get over it" crap. We're totally going to be in your fucking face for the next 45 months. Get used to it.
Joke is on you for thinking he would be different. You can't be pro automation and pro free market and libertarian and cry wahaha it's not fair ai have to compete too?
Most Trump voters are none of those things, although most of them they like to claim that they are in favor of a free market. In reality, they want a market which is manipulated in their favor, and the next guy can go fuck himself. Trump voters could not possibly be farther from supporting the free market.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Everybody knows it is not about "better" candidates, it is about "cheaper" candidates. You are nothing but an Infosys, TCS, [fill in any staffing agency here] shill.
STFU
They support the free market unless it applies to them. They want the government to bud out and have open competition and less regulation ... Except at the factory they work at.
But my post was referring to slashdotters who say vote for Trump as Clinton is not on your side on with h1b1 visas. Then in the next story the same posters go on how the free market dictates no increase in minimum wages and that automation increases jobs
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Why do slashdotters hate government clampdowns on freedoms except when it comes to H1B visas? I fucking hate the hypocrisy of it all.
Unrestrained capitalism is frankly an insane idea. What businesses are allowed to do should be well regulated to prevent disastrous outcomes like rivers catching fire. What people want is the government to keep them safe from corporations that frankly wouldn't mind if you died suffering as a direct result of their actions. What people don't want is the government interfering with the civil liberties of individuals.
If you have a problem with H1B tech workers then make yourself a better candidate, FFS.
If you bring the individual worker having to compete on a global scale to it's logical conclusion, it means that Americans have accept the lowest standard of living of any country. That doesn't seem like a good thing for anyone but the rich.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
Why do slashdotters hate government clampdowns on freedoms except when it comes to H1B visas?
Tee hee. You're cute, little guy.
I fucking hate the hypocrisy of it all.
Who the fuck are you?
Our company
What company? You and the other cowards? Cowards 'R Us?
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
No. I don't want to keep that in mind. Indians should fix India.
UK fucks up India
UK spawns another nation
Indians go to that nation for jobs
epyT-R cries about it
Indians laugh.
I see little reason to give a damn that Indians can't be bothered to take a shot at a first rate society while they leech ours, driving down our standard of living.
That is what they are doing. The culture that spawned our culture shit on their culture, and now they're trying to get their shit back together. You can whine about the outcome all you like, but all you're doing is crying about how you can't shit on other people without consequences. You're still profiting from what the UK did to India, and you don't want to see it fixed.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
So it's OK for dad to lie to Americans? And it's OK for dad's supervisors lie to Americans? Your dad isn't alone in taking my wrath. Our pinko and chief has said, "America First." H1B visas put America NOT first. I've worked with Ginness's, they don't need to be "trained" to do their job. But for some magical reason, Disney's mickey mouse managers, and SoCal-Eddy's-Son have to train H1B visa holders, then the trainers are fired/lay-off/what-ever.
Bullshit!!!!!
You haven't actually talked to those Indians about their backgrounds.
All those H1B Indians come from wealthy Indian families. Those dirt poor Indians simply don't have the opportunity to get a degree and get to the USA.
The real "Libtards" are the Libertarians!
I haven't heard of French parents scaling the walls of a school to help their kids cheat in exams.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
they're the Indian middle class. I don't know why it's so hard for Americans to understand that India has a middle class. They're a country of over a billion people.
These aren't refugees from poverty, they're mostly folks coming over here to take advantage of the currency differences with the plan to go back home with fat stacks of cash. A lot don't because they have kids, they kids put down roots and they stay around. But they're not escaping poverty. If you want those guys than ban the Indians are let the Syrians in. They're not just escaping poverty, they're escaping genocide.
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people want the government to keep _them_ safe. Them. No the other guy. The other guy just needs to work harder and stop leaching off them.
The best quote I've heard in years came from a CNN pundit calling Rick Santorum to task over his opposition to Medicaid for the poor. She said Nobody's a Conservative when it comes to their family. She was right, too.
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Perhaps we should focus on why that is and fix it instead of opening the floodgates to people looking for quick handouts, people who hate everything our society stands for (or is supposed to stand for), and those who otherwise have no intention of integrating.