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Nvidia Titan Xp Introduced as 'the World's Most Powerful Graphics Card' (pcgamer.com)

Posted by msmash on from the top-of-the-line dept.

Nvidia has unveiled its new Titan, the Xp. It features 3840 Cuda cores running at 1.6GHz, and 12GB of DDR5X memory. The card runs on Nvidia's Pascal architecture and comes with a suitably titanic price tag of $1200. From a report: "They made 1080 Ti so fast that they need a new top-tier Titan," says PC Gamer hardware expert Jarred Walton. "It's the full GP102 chip, so just like we had GTX 780, the Titan, the 780 Ti and the Titan Black, we're getting the 1080, Titan X (Pascal), 1080 Ti, and Titan Xp."

69 comments

  1. Vega? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Hope AMD hurries up, Nvidia's going to have to start, "0% financing" just like new cars had to do to get people able to afford their products.

    1. Re: Vega? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't the Tesla M60 faster? It's got more cores (4096) and has 16GB of GDDR5 memory. It also has two active GPUs on it.

    2. Re:Vega? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      New AMD cards are close, and if the leaks are accurate the top end card will be just as good as this, and knowing AMD it will be half the price.

    3. Re: Vega? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The M60 isn't for gaming, it doesn't even have ports to connect a monitor.

  2. Big Lots by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

    How long will it be before this card is available at Big Lots for $5. I might be able to get one then.

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    1. Re:Big Lots by admin7087 · · Score: 1

      Roughly ten years, but you can probably already get it for $50 in about five years.

    2. Re:Big Lots by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

      How long will it be before this card is available at Big Lots for $5. I might be able to get one then.

      Six months and the price will be reasonable fo the technology.

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    3. Re:Big Lots by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      There really isn't much point in doing things like Seti@home with them, as a couple of years down the road, everything you did before with previous cards can be doubled in a few months with the latest ones. 3800 cuda cores? jfc why bother?

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    4. Re:Big Lots by Frobnicator · · Score: 1

      Six months and the price will be reasonable for the technology.

      Yup. And in six months there will be a new card proclaiming to be 'the World's Most Powerful Graphics Card'.

      That's the thing about buying items at the bleeding edge, or buying the pinnacle product: they don't stay in that position for very long.

      Typically it is better to buy one or two items back from the best so you don't get the 'premium item' cost penalty, then keep using it for as long as it works for your needs.

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    5. Re:Big Lots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're not going to find a 8800 GTX for $5 now, nor will you be able to find a GTX 590 for $50. There is no reason to expect that pattern to change in the future. Older enthusiast cards tend to have better performance than recent economy cards, so why would you expect to get them at a better price?

    6. Re:Big Lots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I go around my local CEX shops every weekend asking around for bargains. Got three for the price of one.
      (CEX = computer exchange).

  3. Wow, sounds awesome by ichthus · · Score: 0

    Meanwhile, I'm still rocking a GeForce 7950GTX. Yeah, the newest game I've played is Portal. 1. I'm sure I'll get back to gaming some day -- the Bio Shock games look amazing to me (and I'm sure there are even newer, better games than those). But, right now in life, it just hasn't seemed as important or interesting as it used to.

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    1. Re:Wow, sounds awesome by ichthus · · Score: 1

      ... I've always said that if Half Life 3 is ever made, that'll be the game that gets me motivated to return to the gaming world.

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    2. Re:Wow, sounds awesome by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      I've got a 4790k Intel Core i7 with HD Graphics. It plays 3D games alright, but Hollow Knight struggles. That is to say: Unity 3D games with 2D or 3D graphics and complex, shiny effects can get 24fps at 1900x1080; Unreal Engine games with high-resolution sprites and few real-time effects struggle and stutter at 1200x800 resolution, making platforming nigh-impossible and rendering games unplayable. Not that Hollow Knight doesn't look as good as any Unity 3D game--the art style is fantastic--it's that Hollow Knight doesn't rely on fancy, high-end graphics effects, while many Unity 3D games use complex shaders and real-time lighting and all kinds of heavy shit and still get higher performance and a high-end look.

      I'll never understand the Unreal Engine fetish. Maybe it's just that Unity 3D is easy and a lot of people pick it up and make quick-and-dirty games that don't have a professional feel, while UE has fewer first-time indie devs making Flappy Bird clones and so showcases more recognizable, high-end games. People think they'll be able to do a professional job if only they use the same tool, even though they're about as skilled as the guy who made a half-working, crashy Flappy Bird clone.

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    3. Re:Wow, sounds awesome by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      You won't be disappointed by bioshock. They really are good games. One and Infinite anyway, I've not played Two so can't say on that.

    4. Re:Wow, sounds awesome by Dins · · Score: 1

      2 is ok. Most didn't like it as much, but if you liked 1, I think it's kind of more of the same. Bioshock 1 is a phenomenal game with incredibly atmosphere if you've not played the series.

    5. Re:Wow, sounds awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem with modern games (and even the older games to a lesser
      extent - but their gameplay is usually shorter) is their play length. Some
      of these games take a long time. And I don't have that kinda time - it's a
      game, not a job or task.

      I want to be able to play for 5/10/20 minutes at a time and be able to save
      its state no matter what the character is doing. Right? It's software; these
      types of things should be solved by now.

      CAP === 'against'

    6. Re:Wow, sounds awesome by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      intel gpus were never really meant for gaming.. I don't know why you built a system to do it without an aftermarket gpu.

    7. Re:Wow, sounds awesome by Pascoea · · Score: 1

      Good news then, if you look on the forums people say it'll be out in less than 6 months.

    8. Re:Wow, sounds awesome by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

      Intel graphics increasingly are meant to run games : foremost, if some people upgrade to a 4790K or 6600K it might have the best graphics hardware they ever had, because it beats e.g. geforce 7600GT (~2006) or Radeon 5450 (~2009) and others.
      Then, they got a bit better of their goal of being barely able to run anything. Like, the two cards I mentioned above are deprecated. In fact, look at the low end market and the fact you still can buy geforce 210, Radeon 5450, 6450, R5 230. That's deprecated! (nvidia provides a "legacy" linux driver that you still can use)

      R7 240 and 250 are not deprecated officially (but long in the tooth), but don't have a good linux driver yet.
      So given all the bullshit and museum pieces on the low end graphics market, Intel graphics looks like a good choice. It's good that it sits under the CPU's heatsink.

      There is one usable low end graphics board : geforce GT 710. Although, it doesn't have displayport. Roughly similar to Intel graphics in terms of power, but with a better driver. But getting older already.

    9. Re:Wow, sounds awesome by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      Based on previous recent games, Half Life 3 will probably be a stripped down, console-style FPS with fewer weapons, quick time events or equivalent, and save points. The PC version will just be a port of the console one because build for the console because a near-flop on that will earn more than a hit on the PC.

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    10. Re:Wow, sounds awesome by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      I've been wanting to get back to Diablo 2, Never Winter Nights, and GTA iV for some time now.

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    11. Re:Wow, sounds awesome by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      Pogo games, my wife loves them.

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    12. Re:Wow, sounds awesome by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      I built a system to run a programming environment, and it happened to run games fairly well.

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    13. Re:Wow, sounds awesome by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      Meanwhile, I'm still rocking a GeForce 7950GTX. Yeah, the newest game I've played is Portal. 1. I'm sure I'll get back to gaming some day -- the Bio Shock games look amazing to me (and I'm sure there are even newer, better games than those). But, right now in life, it just hasn't seemed as important or interesting as it used to.

      Translation: I discovered that sex was something I could have with people OTHER than myself.

    14. Re:Wow, sounds awesome by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      I agree they've improved their 3D support quite a bit over the 'intel media decelerators' of the 9xx series, but they don't compare to modern geforce or radeon gpus once you move up beyond bare budget (as you said many of those are based on obsolete designs). However, as the gp said, they still don't run modern engines very well at native resolutions for most panels.

    15. Re:Wow, sounds awesome by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that's fine, but your previous post suggested you were expecting to game with it so I tried to explain after you complained about UE4 not running well. The problem is that intel gpus do not have the raw fillrate (and possibly features) to run modern titles well at high resolutions.

    16. Re:Wow, sounds awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Translation: You replaced one form of endorphin release with another. Go you.

    17. Re:Wow, sounds awesome by Khyber · · Score: 1

      "Intel graphics increasingly are meant to run games : foremost, if some people upgrade to a 4790K or 6600K it might have the best graphics hardware they ever had, because it beats e.g. geforce 7600GT (~2006) or Radeon 5450 (~2009) and others."

      I haven't seen an onboard Intel GPU yet that can top a 7950GT. When the intel can run Street Fighter X Tekken at 40+ FPS like the 7950GT can, then we can talk. Until then, it's not even close to being decent enough for gaming.

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    18. Re:Wow, sounds awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So the IGP taking up 60% of a $250 desktop CPU beats a 8 year old 25W $50 graphics card.
      Yeah, that sure sounds like GREAT value...

    19. Re:Wow, sounds awesome by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      My point was that modern titles with OpenGL shaders, real-time lighting, and the like run at around 30fps for many games, notably games written in Unity 3D; while you'll hit games with hardly anything technically-impressive (e.g. Hollow Knight) that can't run at low-resolution without straining to get more than 4fps during action scenes. As a general rule, a Unity 3D game will run with much less resource consumption and a higher frame rate to provide similar visual effects of technical complexity to a really slow, choppy, resource-intensive Unreal Engine game.

      It's not even just Unity. Things with custom engines, things on Cardboard or SDL, things that aren't UE seem to just run fine. Granted, anything that's got huge amounts of visual effects, highly-complex shaders, particle fields, and 16x anti-aliasing is going to go way, way past what my Intel HD graphics can handle; I just expect that to be the tone. It shouldn't be luck whether or not a game with comparable visual effects requires a $6,000 graphics card or not.

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  4. XP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now there's a name I've not heard in a long, long time

    1. Re:XP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm still running XP. I don't want Windows 10 crap.

  5. El Shabazz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    El Shabazz
    El Shabazz
    El Sha Mutherfucken bazz!

  6. 12 tera-ops, 250W, 16 nm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    About 13% improvement over their previous model

  7. Titan Xp by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Funny

    Future versions: Titan Vista, Titan 7 ...

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    1. Re:Titan Xp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'll wait for Titan 3.11 for workgroups.

    2. Re:Titan Xp by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      I'm waiting for the Titan :) as it should be much nicer than Titan Xp.

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  8. GOD DAMN IT NVIDIA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People were already calling titan x (pascal) "xp", now you just HAD to release another one with that name.
    I swear Intel, Nvidia and AMD have NO IDEA what good naming schemes are.

    1. Re:GOD DAMN IT NVIDIA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You need a binky.

    2. Re:GOD DAMN IT NVIDIA by KlomDark · · Score: 1

      They are following Microsoft naming schemes. XBox, XBox 360, XBox 1, WTF?

  9. A big middle finger by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2

    To both AMD and to those who are just waiting on their 1080 TIs and those who got their 1080s a few months ago.

    With Vega coming out in 72 hours gamers will see not only that it doesn't beat the 1080ti and Titan XP they will giggle shrug shoulders and pretend AMD is irrelevant now. Shame.

    In am alternative universe without AMD both the ti and Titan XP wouldn't exist. They exist solely to screw AMD because Nvidia was aware of launch date. What PC gamers don't realize this harms the platform and makes console peasants more attractive. Ha! $700 for a GPU??! My whole PS4 is $399 ...Giggles. :-(

    Nvidia is doing everything they can to take Mindshare and money from gamers at anyway possible.

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    1. Re:A big middle finger by sexconker · · Score: 1

      With Vega coming out in 72 hours

      Nope.

    2. Re:A big middle finger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Comparing a GPU that costs $700 (or $400, for the sake of price equivalence) with a console makes as much sense as comparing a bike with a car.

      Let people that think a bike is ok buy the damn bike and be happy with it. There's (almost) no shame in that.

    3. Re:A big middle finger by Dins · · Score: 1

      To both AMD and to those who are just waiting on their 1080 TIs and those who got their 1080s a few months ago.

      I just got my 1080 (not Ti), but it was $540, not $1,200. So I'm good, thanks...

    4. Re:A big middle finger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is this a middle finger to anyone?

      This card is like a concept car. It's the "because we can" or "what if" model.

      Like the first Titan, they don't realistically expect a lot of people to buy this because the price-performance ratio is crap. It will probably only be marginally better than the current top consumer model (1080ti), while costing twice as much.

      If you can afford it, go for it, of course, but I think that if you are spending more than €600 for a graphics card, you are being robbed. You can already get decent performance in the ~€300 range. And even if you are extremely tight on cash you can still get passable performance with much less (even some integrated GPUs).

      tl;dr, you aren't supposed to buy this (but you can anyway).

    5. Re:A big middle finger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Titan X Pascal was backordered for months (mostly by Deep Learning researchers). I have 2x 1080 Ti's now humming away for the same reason.

    6. Re:A big middle finger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TYL some people use their GPUs for work not playing videogames.

  10. UNTIL THE NEXT ONE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...that is! Usually less than a year betweenst.

  11. Yeah, but... by Dins · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...will it run Crysis?

    1. Re:Yeah, but... by Voyager529 · · Score: 0

      ...will it run Crysis?

      Probably. Crysis was a game that required a Geforce 8800 to run suitably in 1080p, even with things sorta-high. However, the GPU in my current laptop mops the floor with it in specs, it wasn't the highest end GPU I could have chosen at the time, and it's over a year old. For that matter, the GPU of my last laptop largely outpaces it. I have no issues running Crysis at 1080p on ultra mode. Meanwhile, CryEngine has gotten more optimizations; the system requirements for Crysis 2 were similar but the performance was measurably better on similar hardware. Crysis 3 was a different kettle of fish.

      So, unfortunately (or fortunately), we're at the point where even the higher end Intel Integrated GPUs can playably run Crysis (albeit at modest settings) - which is to be expected since the game is ten years old now. We need a new game that pushes the limits of GPUs again. My experience is that Mass Effect Andromeda has pushed my GPU pretty heavily, but I don't think it's quite 'it' yet.

  12. "Most powerful..." by lionchild · · Score: 1

    ....until next quarter or the second half of the year, when we get an even more powerful graphics card!

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  13. I hope it can handle by tgibson · · Score: 1

    ncurses.

    1. Re:I hope it can handle by mccalli · · Score: 1

      It can. Emacs, on the other hand...

  14. Kinda unusual ... by Artem+S.+Tashkinov · · Score: 1

    that the usual reviewers/tech websites got wind of the news like everyone else (from the official NVIDIA website). That doesn't happen too often.

  15. wait they already spy on you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    so shouldnt it be called titan 10

  16. Compatibility by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will it be compatible with Windows XP?

    1. Re:Compatibility by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. They stopped releasing XP drivers when the OS hit EOL.

  17. This is the second Titan XP by Misagon · · Score: 2

    This is getting weirder and more confusing now ...

    As the top of the "Maxwell"-architecture 900-series, NVidia released the "GeForce GTX Titan X" in March 2015.
    Then in August last year, as the top of the "Pascal"-architecture 10-series, NVidia released a new Titan ... this time calling it "Titan X".
    This new name did not contain the "GeForce GTX" prefix, but who the Elle says the entire long product name every time, right?
    So several high-profile reviewers started calling it "Titan XP" - with the "P" for "Pascal", to distinguish it from the previous "Titan X" in the Maxwell generation.

    And now, NVidia has released a new card with the official name "Titan Xp". I think there is no way that they would not be aware of the older card being called that.
    Even worse. both cards called "Titan XP" (and the "GeForce GTX 1080 Ti") are the same GPU (NVidia GP102) with different binning - I.e. some units switched off on the cheaper cards.

    The GP102 chip is also used in the top of their Quadro line of workstation graphics cards ... My guess is that the better-binned chips they had intended for Quadro cards did not sell as well as they had thought and therefore saw an opportunity to sell them at a high price as their new top consumer card.

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    1. Re:This is the second Titan XP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds exactly like the story of the X-box. About 15 years ago Microsoft released their gaming console, and called it the X-box. Some years later they released the X-box 360. When referring to the older X-box console, people would call it the X-box 1 to distinguish it from the newer X-box 360. Then X-box calls their next console "X-box One".

      There is no way Microsoft was not aware of the older console being called that. Unless they are really, really oblivious.

      It's like these companies are intentionally trying to confuse their customers so much that they throw up their hands and say, "Forget it, what I have is fine. I'm not upgrading today."

  18. Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hopefully we won't be stuck with it for a couple of decades like Windows XP.

    1. Re:Windows by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      I'd rather be stuck with xp than the interface grafted onto windows 10.

  19. Re:Fir57 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    better upate

  20. Titan XP can haz driverz for WinXP? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So even hardware vendors have seen the light and decided to continue to support real Windows versions instead of the latest spyware/drm/metro shit...

  21. Meh by cheesybagel · · Score: 1

    Such a bland card. Twice the money of a GTX 1080 Ti for 10% more FLOPS. It does not even use HBM. The half precision and double precision performance is still nerfed. It's got like 1/4 the DP FLOPS of a 2013 GTX Titan. The card is only good for SP FLOPS. So it is useless for a power user which wants to do something other than gaming.

  22. Leaks are not accurate. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How do you even know they are real leaks and not purposeful marketing?

  23. no need for middle finger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Xp is whaling: it is a product designed to part fools and their money.

    But it does have secondary effect: even people who do not buy Xp still may go for some nVidia card because of Xp. Call it single tracked mind if you will. The decision on brand and the decision on model are 2 different decisions. Xp may coerce people to choose nV after which they start deciding on model.

    Some people are stupid that way and marketing depts know and exploit it. You can see it for yourself: the people with the best, fastest, flashiest and most expensive stuff are rarely Einsteins.