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Microsoft Claims Windows 10 Saves Enterprises 28% More Than They Claimed Last Year (computerworld.com)
"Microsoft this week boosted by 28% its claim of how much enterprises can save by deploying Windows 10," writes Computerworld. An anonymous reader quotes their report:
The revised estimate came from a Microsoft-commissioned analysis first done in mid-2016 by Forrester Research. Then, Forrester said the per-worker savings over a three-year stretch would be $404. To reach that number, the research firm interviewed four Microsoft customers that had begun moving to Windows 10, then modeled a hypothetical organization with 24,000 Windows devices, and a large number of mobile workers among the 20,000 employees. Using that pretend company, Forrester forecast the difference between running Windows 10 and retaining Windows 7.
Late last year, Forrester interviewed another quartet of Windows early 10 adopters, then added that data to what it had originally. The new per-employee savings: $515 over three years, a jump of almost a third... Forrester's increase in the number of mobile workers -- the total climbed by 460 employees -- was the biggest factor in the changed estimate... The bottom line, said Forrester and Microsoft, was that the migration to Windows 10 would pay for itself -- the breakeven point when savings equal costs -- in 14 months.
The report says IT administrators "estimate a 20% improvement in management time, as Windows 10 requires less IT time to install, manage, and support with in-place deployment and more self-service functions," while because of the OS's security software, "security events requiring IT remediation are reduced or avoided by 33%."
Late last year, Forrester interviewed another quartet of Windows early 10 adopters, then added that data to what it had originally. The new per-employee savings: $515 over three years, a jump of almost a third... Forrester's increase in the number of mobile workers -- the total climbed by 460 employees -- was the biggest factor in the changed estimate... The bottom line, said Forrester and Microsoft, was that the migration to Windows 10 would pay for itself -- the breakeven point when savings equal costs -- in 14 months.
The report says IT administrators "estimate a 20% improvement in management time, as Windows 10 requires less IT time to install, manage, and support with in-place deployment and more self-service functions," while because of the OS's security software, "security events requiring IT remediation are reduced or avoided by 33%."
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"interviewed four Microsoft customers" if that is 4 people .... that is statistically invalid especially if you are going to extrapolate to 24k users.
If that is 4 bussinesses (which tend to use the same hardware across everyone).. it is still invalid as that only means that it works for a certain small subset of hardware.
In short, the intentionally, skewed the data using known happy customers.
"The bottom line, said Forrester and Microsoft, was that the migration to Windows 10 would pay for itself -- the breakeven point when savings equal costs -- in 14 months."
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- Mark Twain
Studies paid for by Microsoft (and its buddies) are of course going to "show" how wonderful Microsoft is. That's what they paid for after all. And that's no reason to report on it as if it were news; it's not news. It's wishful thinking. Along the lines of Big Tobacco's endless stream of studies that "showed" that tobacco is good for you.
Follow the money. If we've learned nothing else in the last few decades, it's follow the money.
We've invested so much staff time into figuring out how to neuter Win 10's bullshit "features" like Telemetry, crappy interface, beefed up UAC (that breaks plenty of applications that we use), broken profile management, and inflexible Windows update....
Only reason we're even touching Win 10 is that 7 doesn't work well on a lot of newer laptops, and come 2020 M$ is dropping all support for 7.
Lawyers, MBA's, RIAA? A jedi fears not these things!
It's saving me quite a lot of money, because I decided not to use it and move over to Debian/KDE instead.
So yep, Win10 has been saving me money ever since it came out. I'm surprised other people are not seeing similar kinds of savings.
Don't be a fool. The talent pool in the US is very deep. Employers don't want great workers that can leave of their own free will. They want indentured servants that have no recourse but to stay in the job they're brought in to do using the H-1B visa. Again, it's not about finding homegrown talent. It's about legally oppressing the workers as much as possible.
Employers want to pay as little as possible for labor. H-1B allows companies to hire indentured servants at a 30% discount to market rates.
Raise the H-1B minimum wage to $150k/year and I'll bet most H-1B visas go unused.
33% savings from security?
If that's the case think how much you could save by using software that is incompatible with the malware that infests the MS platform. There are many other choices now.
Office 360 requires storage of company confidential content - truckloads of it - in the cloud. That is a liability. A huge liability.
It entirely defeats the purpose of things like firewall, security policy, or retention policy.
I expect some pretty large breaches, and pretty huge losses of IP in the form of industrial/trade secrets as well as classified, confidential, and proprietary content.
And without good audits, neither microsoft, nor the victim/user will know they are gone until they pop up in the competitors (China's) products at commodity pricing and with worldwide distribution.
How does that factor into the TCO?
Wasn't there recently a report that went out about IBM switching to Apple due to the savings on support?
The average JoePublic user won't know the name of the application executable.
What if there are several versions (bad systems management) which one do they choose.
IT is fine for geeks but for a non geek? forget it.
The torrents of abuse I've had hurled at me from people who were forced by my old managment onto W10 was enough to make me throw in the towel and quit.
Users don't like change. End Of.
W10 forces a lot of change on the users.
Don't even get me started on the forced updates bricking devices. Two days before I left the above job, an update bricked the CEO's PC.
The rollout of W10 stopped there and then. No amount of cajoling would persuade me to stay on and roll everyone back to W7. I'm done with Windows for good.
I'd rather be riding my '63 Triumph T120.