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Microsoft Claims Windows 10 Saves Enterprises 28% More Than They Claimed Last Year (computerworld.com)

"Microsoft this week boosted by 28% its claim of how much enterprises can save by deploying Windows 10," writes Computerworld. An anonymous reader quotes their report: The revised estimate came from a Microsoft-commissioned analysis first done in mid-2016 by Forrester Research. Then, Forrester said the per-worker savings over a three-year stretch would be $404. To reach that number, the research firm interviewed four Microsoft customers that had begun moving to Windows 10, then modeled a hypothetical organization with 24,000 Windows devices, and a large number of mobile workers among the 20,000 employees. Using that pretend company, Forrester forecast the difference between running Windows 10 and retaining Windows 7.

Late last year, Forrester interviewed another quartet of Windows early 10 adopters, then added that data to what it had originally. The new per-employee savings: $515 over three years, a jump of almost a third... Forrester's increase in the number of mobile workers -- the total climbed by 460 employees -- was the biggest factor in the changed estimate... The bottom line, said Forrester and Microsoft, was that the migration to Windows 10 would pay for itself -- the breakeven point when savings equal costs -- in 14 months.

The report says IT administrators "estimate a 20% improvement in management time, as Windows 10 requires less IT time to install, manage, and support with in-place deployment and more self-service functions," while because of the OS's security software, "security events requiring IT remediation are reduced or avoided by 33%."

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  1. Our experience with forced driver updates... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    says the exact opposite. Too many of our Dell laptops won't even boot after an update to the video card driver. We disable it, but it just keeps coming back.

    1. Re: Our experience with forced driver updates... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Even with SCCM, Silverlight (KB4013867) keeps installing itself. We have a crappy internal content management system that shows blank pages if Silverlight is installed so it's a huge problem. We lost an unemployment claim because after we fired someone for not showing up to work for three days, he claimed he didn't know that was our policy since he couldn't get to our handbook.

  2. captain obvious is being obvious again by FudRucker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    and Ford Motor Company claims Ford cars are best
    Chevrolet says their cars are best
    coca cola, vs pepsi etc...
    Haines vs Fruit of the Loom blah blah blah

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    1. Re: captain obvious is being obvious again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, no, no. It's an independent report from that paragon of objectivity, Forrester Research. Microsoft took a huge risk because Forrester's independent and highly ethical analysts could have found that Windows 10 is a security nightmare. But Microsoft's bet paid off when the Forrester analysts found instead that Windows 10 is the best evah.

  3. Alternative summary by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microsoft says that buying their new product will save you more money than sticking with their previous product - so give them more of your money.

    Microsoft also says you could stand a bath.

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  4. Bad statistics are bad... by cb88 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "interviewed four Microsoft customers" if that is 4 people .... that is statistically invalid especially if you are going to extrapolate to 24k users.

    If that is 4 bussinesses (which tend to use the same hardware across everyone).. it is still invalid as that only means that it works for a certain small subset of hardware.

    In short, the intentionally, skewed the data using known happy customers.

  5. Windows 10? Sure it save money! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    On my computer Windows 10 cost my company $2,307. This is because it upgraded my Windows 7 computer without authorisation and fucked it up in the process, making anything dependant on mmc.exe unusable (because the upgrade fucked up the Software Catalog and wouldn't recognize Microsoft's own signature on mmc.exe). It cost my company the equivalent of $2,307 in wages and lost productivity to reinstall Windows 10 from scratch and reinstall all of the development tools that were previously running quite happily under Windows 7.

    I would have much preferred Windows 7 to be reinstalled, but the company is "moving forward" with Windows 10.

  6. I'm calling bullshit by Indy1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We've invested so much staff time into figuring out how to neuter Win 10's bullshit "features" like Telemetry, crappy interface, beefed up UAC (that breaks plenty of applications that we use), broken profile management, and inflexible Windows update....

    Only reason we're even touching Win 10 is that 7 doesn't work well on a lot of newer laptops, and come 2020 M$ is dropping all support for 7.

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  7. I believe it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's saving me quite a lot of money, because I decided not to use it and move over to Debian/KDE instead.

    So yep, Win10 has been saving me money ever since it came out. I'm surprised other people are not seeing similar kinds of savings.

  8. Re:Here's an idea: Increase the H-1B cap by ITRambo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Don't be a fool. The talent pool in the US is very deep. Employers don't want great workers that can leave of their own free will. They want indentured servants that have no recourse but to stay in the job they're brought in to do using the H-1B visa. Again, it's not about finding homegrown talent. It's about legally oppressing the workers as much as possible.

  9. $404 Not Found by tepples · · Score: 5, Funny

    Forrester said the per-worker savings over a three-year stretch would be $404

    says the exact opposite.

    Then I guess the savings are 404 Not Found.

  10. unmentioned liabilities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Office 360 requires storage of company confidential content - truckloads of it - in the cloud. That is a liability. A huge liability.

    It entirely defeats the purpose of things like firewall, security policy, or retention policy.

    I expect some pretty large breaches, and pretty huge losses of IP in the form of industrial/trade secrets as well as classified, confidential, and proprietary content.

    And without good audits, neither microsoft, nor the victim/user will know they are gone until they pop up in the competitors (China's) products at commodity pricing and with worldwide distribution.

    How does that factor into the TCO?

    1. Re:unmentioned liabilities by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And without good audits, neither microsoft, nor the victim/user will know they are gone until they pop up in the competitors (China's) products...

      This is the damning part. Industrial espionage from China is something of a constant thing these days, but when you run your own servers (and haven't outsourced administration to incompetents), you can see the attempts happening and have at least some chance of detecting and stopping a breach.

      When the servers storing your company's most valuable data aren't even yours, you haven't the slightest idea what's happening to them. You may not even know where they are. And even while you may think you know, they may have rearranged things without telling you and you still don't know where they are. Repeat that process a few times and suddenly your entire business (in Ohio) grinds to a halt because of a typhoon in Malaysia. Surprise, Microsoft outsourced an entire datacenter.

      MBA's are goddamned stupid. IT is a core competency of every business now. You either do it yourself and do it well or you will be bitten on the ass, one way or another. Outsourcing IT is like outsourcing your filing system 50 years ago. Insanity.

  11. "Using that pretend company" by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Using that pretend company"...

    Say no more. My pretend company installed Windows 10 and saved over 5 billion percent, and that was just during the first 2 hours.

    Sadly, my other pretend company installed Windows 10 and immediately had 4 data breaches, 12 suicides, and went out of business the next week. 67% of the workers also tested positive for chlamydia.

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