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Major Banks and Parts of Federal Gov't Still Rely On COBOL, Now Scrambling To Find IT 'Cowboys' To Keep Things Afloat (reuters.com)

From a report on Reuters: Bill Hinshaw is not a typical 75-year-old. He divides his time between his family -- he has 32 grandchildren and great-grandchildren -- and helping U.S. companies avert crippling computer meltdowns. Hinshaw, who got into programming in the 1960s when computers took up entire rooms and programmers used punch cards, is a member of a dwindling community of IT veterans who specialize in a vintage programming language called COBOL. The Common Business-Oriented Language was developed nearly 60 years ago and has been gradually replaced by newer, more versatile languages such as Java, C and Python. Although few universities still offer COBOL courses, the language remains crucial to businesses and institutions around the world. In the United States, the financial sector, major corporations and parts of the federal government still largely rely on it because it underpins powerful systems that were built in the 70s or 80s and never fully replaced. And here lies the problem: if something goes wrong, few people know how to fix it. The stakes are especially high for the financial industry, where an estimated $3 trillion in daily commerce flows through COBOL systems. The language underpins deposit accounts, check-clearing services, card networks, ATMs, mortgage servicing, loan ledgers and other services. The industry's aggressive push into digital banking makes it even more important to solve the COBOL dilemma. Mobile apps and other new tools are written in modern languages that need to work seamlessly with old underlying systems. That is where Hinshaw and fellow COBOL specialists come in. A few years ago, the north Texas resident planned to shutter his IT firm and retire after decades of working with financial and public institutions, but calls from former clients just kept coming.

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  1. The language isn't the issue by reginaldo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From what I've seen, the issue in finding developers for these codebases isn't in the language knowledge (i.e. COBOL), it's in the knowledge of the poorly-documented legacy software. Sure, you can get a developer to learn COBOL fairly easily, but when the software is full of dead ends, spaghetti code, and unknown business logic and workflow logic, their knowledge of COBOL won't help. Instead you need to hire someone who knows the system, and was probably complicit in creating this mess, to do anything. Either that or bite the bullet and start a huge replacement project that costs several magnitudes more than exorbitant hourly rates.

  2. Re:Translator by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    probably significantly less complicated than the languages that are around today

    COBOL has been around long enough to be a victim of featuritus. I has a lot of built-in operations and short-cuts that are great if you know them, but could trip up a newbie.

    But the hard part of a typical COBOL job is probably learning your way around many thousands of lines of existing programs. I've always found writing code simpler than reading code written by somebody else, especially if it's poorly structured, documented, commented, etc.

    The language and syntax the business logic is written in is secondary to that issue. Readable code can be written in any language, but so can crazy pasta.

  3. memory allocation errors, gone. by goombah99 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One of the nice things about f77 and i presume cobol is that memory is allocated in a fixed way at compile time. so no mallocs and no deallocs and thus no null pointers. string buffer sizes are known. and relatively speaking, its harder to find cases where typos are not also syntax errors. for exapmle typing = instead of ==.

    now for many things this memory issue is the pits which is why we like those other laguages. it makes object oriented styles impossible though for a fixed maximum number of objects you can fake it. but for a lot of things its all you need. and the block memory structures of multi dimensional arrays make data contiguous in memory and enable very efficient parallel optimizations. so there are advantages to giving up features.

    if you are wanting very reliable code its not a crazy choice,

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    1. Re:memory allocation errors, gone. by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Everything in life is a tradeoff.

      When the developer avoids allocation headaches by using fixed-sized strings and data structures, users are often saddled with arbitrary truncations and the need to make up funky abbreviations all throughout their data sets. This can be a major source of errors in itself.

  4. Re:Just offer more money by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Easy to learn, fairly easy to read. However, the Lords of Cobol are masters at programming in a way that most people today can't think. it is a quite literal programming language.

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  5. Re:Translator by bws111 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Haha! IBM is making a 'killing supporting old systems'? IBM comes out with NEW mainframes about every two years. The current system (z13) is from all the way back in 2015. And you won't find 'better hardware' anywhere. Cheaper? Certainly. Better? No.

  6. Re:Milk Them by swillden · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I hope all these COBOL programmers are smart enough to charge outrageous rates. Minimum $250/hr. They've got the banks over a barrel, any time the situation is reversed the banks don't hesitate to screw us.

    $250 per hour is a pretty normal rate for an experienced professional, hardly outrageous at all. When I worked for IBM Global Services, they billed me out at $300 per hour. Granted that IBM commands a premium due to their marketing channels, but I'm sure I could have gotten $200 per hour on my own and my expertise is far from as rare as deep COBOL experience. I'd expect people like the one mentioned in the article to cost more like $500 per hour, if they're actually aware of their own worth, and I wouldn't consider even that outrageous.

    If I were in the position of those programmers, I would probably try to avoid quoting an hourly rate at all. Instead I'd do it all as piece-rate work, based on detailed specifications -- especially if I'm working on a system that I know, so I have a good idea of what sorts of obstacles I might run into. Then I'd try to set my price based on the value of the work to the business, rather than on the time it would take me to produce it. That could easily result in contracts that work out to many thousands of dollars per hour.

    A friend who is a lawyer told me that the best piece of career advice he ever got from his father, also a lawyer, is "Take the money, son." He didn't mean to take money for unethical work, but just that one shouldn't balk at accepting high fees just because they seem too high. If the customer is willing to pay, take the money. That attitude should absolutely be applied to doing contract work for banks.

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