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Microsoft Ends Support For Windows Vista; Begins To Roll Out Windows 10 Creators Update
On Tuesday, Microsoft began the roll out of Windows 10 Creators Update, the latest update of the company's desktop operating system. Incidentally, today is also the day Windows Vista, a decade-old OS as well as some parts of Office 2007 hit end of life. Earlier this month we asked Slashdot readers if they would be upgrading their computers to Windows 10 Creators Update. Many people answered with a resounding no.
dont worry it will be.
I somehow suspect that Windows won't exactly give me the option to say 'no' to this update.
Well, you are just in luck, then. The only updates from Microsoft are the forced kind, these days.
Come on, you have to mod this +1 Funny
I'll use XP till it won't run anymore. M$ can go stuff it.
My guess is you don't even use Windows or are lying...
Does it seem like Dell systems have a problem installing the Windows 10 Anniversary update? I had to do a clean install on my own Dell laptop. A friend's Dell desktop can't install the Anniversary update and may require a clean install.
How can Microsoft be so £$%^ing useless as to release a new version of windows but forget to release the Media Pack that THOUSANDS of the their customers need on updating ?
Try some JOINED-UP THINKING, FFS !
Serious question, n ow that the HOSTS file cannot be changed is the Update Servers be blockable? Yes we can all google for answers, but I'm asking here- a real person- hoping to hear of any nuances or tips. Maybe at the modem or router? Maybe apply individual (security) updates and avoid the bloat/spyware?
Thanks!
Or at least +1 Poopy.
I heard that Creators Update requires that all administrator passwords be set to P@ssw0rd
You let your smartphone update. Why not your desktop?
Won't upgrade unless it's forced on me.
Can they do that now?
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
You could at least spam the Anal Vapors story. Look back to around fall '08 FPs.
Game over, man, game over!
T2 is dead
This problem goes way beyond Windows.
Windows is the most popular OS. It has been like this for a couple of decades now. But for many users it has taken a turn for the worse. So if we don't want to use Windows, we have to look to some other OS.
This is where the problems really start to pile up: there really aren't any viable OSes aside from Windows.
macOS is perhaps the obvious choice. But this isn't really an option for somebody who wants to use an existing PC. Yeah, yeah, they could fuck around with building a so-called "Hackintosh" computer, but most people don't want to do that. Besides, if they have to spend more money buying specific hardware, they might as well just get a real Mac of some sort. Again, that's not something they want to do.
After macOS, Linux is the next most common option. But even today, after so many years, it's nowhere near as user-friendly as Windows or macOS are. In fact, the problem with modern Linux is that it has become distinctly user-unfriendly, even for power users. If we go with the major distro defaults of GNOME 3, systemd and PulseAudio, we'll likely encounter odd problems.
If we try to rip out systemd, we'll end up with a fragile installation that probably can't be updated properly. If we try to use a niche distro like Slackware, we end up with a painfully inefficient 1990s-era Linux experience. If we try to use a distro like Gentoo, well, it'll be a week before everything is done compiling. We might have some success using a hacked up quasi-distro like Kubuntu or Xubuntu, but we'll likely run into all sorts of bugs and problems due to them not receiving anywhere near as much testing as mainstream Ubuntu releases.
So Linux really isn't an option for most people.
The *BSDs are the next best option. At least they avoid the systemd problems of Linux. But they're much more suited to power users. They aren't such a good option for regular users who aren't overly technical.
If the *BSDs aren't an option, then we're pretty much stuck dealing with an ultra-niche hobbyist OS like Haiku. That's just not a realistic choice.
At the very bottom of the pile are "operating systems" like Chrome OS or Firefox OS, which probably shouldn't even be considered operating systems. They're just highly restricted Linux systems that essentially only allow a web browser to run. It's all quite dumb.
So unless you can drop a few thousand dollars on a new Mac of some kind, you'll be using Windows, regardless of what Microsoft chooses to do or not do. There just aren't any viable alternative OSes these days. Windows is the only option.
... ended the day it was born.
Not as bad as ME, but a fucking bitch for the workplace.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
Scrottie mcboogers?
Find a program like little snitch. Little snitch is for Mac but they should have a tool that's the same for windows. That's the easy way. The harder way is setting up your own hardware firewall and proxy server. That's the best bet tho.
stand up, have a spine. don't use windows 10.
What is there other than Windows 10, macOS, and Chrome OS? Laptops warranted to run an operating system other than these three aren't shown in showrooms near me. Chromebooks with Crouton have a habit of begging to be wiped (search for "OS verification is OFF"), and System76 currently doesn't offer any laptops smaller than 14 inches. Does Apple deserve a monopoly on compact laptops that run something other than a web browser?
It was the future. I was hyped for years with Longhorn with the Aero Interface. It inspired Linux to invent compiz and Wayland. Windows 7 gets all the credit for Vista's work. I still have my boxed copy of Vista Ultimate. Windows Vista is way better than Windows 10 even today, with disableable updates and less telemetry.
I tried installing a few times over the weekend and get a BSOD during the update process on a pretty modern PC I use for gaming. Getting the Anniversary update working well from a clean install was a painful as well. Pre-anniversary Win 10 worked fine on that PC, so it isn't a hardware issue. Microsoft needs to get their hands dirty and fix the core issues with the OS. Getting Gears of War 4 to install ridiculously difficult, too 5 or so tries to finally get it installed without resetting the download. I'm waiting for an update to nuke the install and download the around 100GB game again...
Needless to say I have selected the "Defer feature updates" checkbox on my work PC, wait for a few patches to smooth out the updating issues.
Don't let the door hit your fat ass (a statistically likely assumption) on your way out.
Many security issues in Windows can be mitigated by just using a plain user account without admin rights, but the problem is that many aspects of maintaining your system requires admin rights.
* Some software requires admin rights to install, if you run the software and then authorize with an admin account, the software will not install for your user account, but for your admin account.
* Some of Microsoft's own software, f.ex. the help viewer inside Visual Studio, will fail during installation of new material if you're a user, authorizing as admin.
* Many important settings will not be available in the UI to you as a user. Again, you're required to be admin to see them.
Currently, it seems that when you authorize as admin, you're actually switching to the admin account before proceeding, which is why everything fails in true Microsoft style.
Authorizing shouldn't switch accounts, it should temporarily raise the rights of the user account, but until Microsoft manages to figure this out, and fix it without breaking everything else, Windows will remain broken and insecure by forcing most "non-grandma" users to run as admin.
So far, doing good. I installed by mounting the iso and just upgrading.
Some notable changes:
Open Source Java Web Forum with LDAP authentication
You won't be upgrading, huh? Isn't it an unstoppable mandatory update?
With more Spying!
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--If you have an old Vista rig that has a 64-bit CPU, at least 1-2GB RAM and would like to make it more useful... Turn it into a ZFS+Samba file server
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== WolfriderV6 == I'm willing to admit that *I just might* be wrong... Are you??
Won't upgrade unless it's forced on me.
Can they do that now?
Not sure if asking a rhetorical question, or truly doesn't know...
Posting from a Dell XPS 13 (a chassis smaller than most 13" machines because of their tiny-bezel screens) that's run Lubuntu flawlessly since the day I got it.
Which is why the ONLY Windows 10 install I run is a Virtualbox VM with the Linux host running a firewall that blocks ALL the MS sites. If/when *I* decide to update the VM, the firewall on the Linux host is temporarily stopped, then restarted afterwards.. Just had to say it.. FUCK YOU MS!!
THANK YOU, Edward Snowden!! Americans owe you a debt of gratitude (whether they know it or not..)
It blocks some of the holes Eastern European hackers have used to penetrate into your slutty systems with Windows 10 Anniversary Edition and before.
And there's the douchy neckbeard attitude that ensures that Linux will never be a mainstream success.
BUTTERS?!?! YOU'RE GROUNDED!
"Prediction: within 10 years, Windows will be a Linux distribution." Me, 7-6-2016
Incidentally, today is also the day Windows Vista, a decade-old OS as well as some parts of Office 2007 hit end of life.
There's a letter missing. Here's how it SHOULD read:
Incidentally, today is also the day Windows Vista, a decade-old POS as well as some parts of Office 2007 hit end of life.
FTFY.
but if you're not qualified to slap a copy of Mint on some generic hardware
Last I checked, Debian and its downstream projects, such as Ubuntu and Mint, have historically had serious problems running on Bay Trail kit, with Bluetooth, audio, camera wireless, suspend, and more broken or missing. It's improved over several years, but a lot is still broken on a T100TA.
Service pack 4 for Windows XP was a big hit. I hope someone provides all the available updates for Vista, too.
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Installing on isn't something that one should expect to be a walk in the park. Never tried it, but as I understand it trying to install macOS on a random windows laptop would be an even bigger pain in the ass.
It seems you are waging a war that nobody will notices. Why do you think anyone at Microsoft would care if you firewall off the updates? It will just make your network less secure. Why do you even have Windows 10 if you dislike it so much?
If you can't change hosts file, they just broke a bunch of stuff (raid management, VM management, etc).
Unless you didn't mean that you can't change hosts file, just that you can't bypass Microsoft servers.
Two very different things.
This guy is a retired admin. I'm surprised he didn't bring it up again for the millionth time.
He makes such a big deal of Windows 10 spying, that I get the impression he's a Sandusky type.
How will it make his network less secure? You don't seem to understand either the concept of network security or virtual machines.
You know what will make your network less secure, guaranteed? Running Windows 10 on bare metal. It has been proven time and again to contain massive amounts of malware, spyware, adware and strips the user of control over fundamental security settings.