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Roku-Enabled TVs Will Soon 'Listen' To Programs You're Watching To Suggest Streaming Content (variety.com)

Roku-enabled TVs will be receiving a new OS update that will listen to what show or movie you're watching via your cable or satellite set-top or over-the-air antenna, in order to suggest internet-streaming content. "Compatible TVs will use automatic content recognition (ACR) technology to identify the content and then suggest additional viewing options available on via streaming services like Netflix, Hulu or Vudu," reports Variety. From the report: It may seem vaguely Big Brother-ish, but Roku is being careful about ensuring consumer privacy: Users will be required to enable the feature via an opt-in prompt. In addition, the "More Ways to Watch" feature can be turned off at any time (although Roku says viewing information collected prior to the feature being turned off will not be deleted). For now, the "More Ways to Watch" feature is available only in the U.S., and only for Roku-enabled television sets available from Best Buy's Insignia, Sharp, Hisense and TCL. It will be coming first to conventional HDTV models first, followed by support for 4K Roku TV models later this summer.

52 comments

  1. It's a good start by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now it can hook to links and torrent the shows to a connected flash disk then we're getting somewhere!

    1. Re:It's a good start by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh you couchpota.to you.

      I'd be more concerned that they would start keeping track of just how much pirated content is viewed on the device for a court case against you later.

    2. Re:It's a good start by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What? It's legal here.

  2. Oh Boy! by AnotherBlackHat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sure glad I own a stupid TV.

    1. Re:Oh Boy! by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 2

      I call it my smarter TV and my smarter phone. If you have to ask why, you aren't so smart. ;)

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    2. Re:Oh Boy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll see your 'stupid' TV, and raise you a CRT set made in the 1970s, in the USA, even. I have no reason to get a new TV, this one works just fine. In its "old age" it has outlasted a *dozen* LCD monitors on the desktops. How could I possibly expect a new TV to last as long when they're essentially the same technology?

      As far as Roku's new spy-based suggestions? Fuck off, nobody wants that shit.

    3. Re: Oh Boy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Buying a nice flat screen "dumb" TV is one thing.

      Being broke trailer trash and acting like you're really doing it on purpose is another.

    4. Re:Oh Boy! by msauve · · Score: 1

      I like Smarties!

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    5. Re:Oh Boy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    6. Re:Oh Boy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because using them smarts?

    7. Re:Oh Boy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good luck buying a new one of those...

      (But here's an expert trick for smart-tv: don't fucking connect them to the net)

    8. Re: Oh Boy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use a god-knows-how-old 13" CRT that was a giveaway from a relative ten years ago, and I only hang on to that because cable is free in my apartment complex.

      Fuck paying for a big-ass screen to hang on the wall that doesn't do anything my laptop can't, fuck paying for cable AND netflix et. al., and fuck TV and the entertainment industry in general.

      Also, fuck anything and everything in the world that costs money but still displays ads, and fuck you if you think I'll ever buy *any* piece of technology capable of displaying ads but not capable of running software to block them.

    9. Re:Oh Boy! by kitezh · · Score: 1

      Or for those outside the USA, Smarties.

    10. Re: Oh Boy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, you like fucking old equipment.

    11. Re:Oh Boy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thats why I have a TV without any of the so called "smart" features, and a separate Roku device. Most so called "smart" devices are smarter than the dumb fucks that fall for the sales pitch and buy them!

      "Smart" device=device with maximum spying/stalking enabled!

  3. Another reason to dump my Roku by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Getting weary of the poor performance and half ass app builds. Maybe I'll just delete all the apps except for PLEX. At least PLEX porformance is somewhat decent.

  4. There must be a market for dumb TVs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I need to investigate the availability of acquiring stock of dumb TVs for retail sale. There has to be a business model here that can work. The threat to our privacy and security is huge.

    http://www.freestateproject.org/

    1. Re: There must be a market for dumb TVs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cool blog bro.

    2. Re: There must be a market for dumb TVs by thundercattt · · Score: 2

      Usually they're"free for pickup" on sites like Kijiji or Craigslist. Pick up a truck load, setup shop selling.

  5. my crazy uncle was kinda-sorta right by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    but they're not watching you, they're listening.

    1. Re:my crazy uncle was kinda-sorta right by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Loop interesting foreign content all day, set the volume and count the days until the police arrive to do a chat down at the door?

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    2. Re:my crazy uncle was kinda-sorta right by Rockoon · · Score: 1

      Repeat after me:

      How many people do you have to get to repeat it until it actually becomes true?

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  6. Vizio is already doing it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And they got fined by the FCC for doing it without telling the users. They have a prompt to opt in now. I only use the TV to watch Netflix and play video games ... so even if I opted in they are not listening ... yet.

  7. Roku by fluffernutter · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I can't wait until they analyze your sex noises and recommend complementary products and/or services. People around here may be interested in the "Jackin' the Beanstalk" package. Roku knows what you need.

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    1. Re:Roku by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That's why I use a ball-gag on your mom.

  8. Well, well, well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    In Soviet-America, TV listens to you!!!

  9. I guess Roku is off my list now too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, is nobody else concerned about the privacy implications with always on microphones connected to the internet? And don't give me that "I have nothing to hide" bullshit. Privacy is an expectation in your own home.

    Even though I slip and I have the odd bad thing here or there, I prefer to have my setup as functional offline as it is online. My chromecast 1 is dead in the water if it can't connect to google. Forget about the chromecast 2, it has a mic. So far my favourite setup only has 1 exception: Speed. I have a raspberry Pi with OSMC (Kodi/XMBC) on it. Although their recent vouch for wanting to go legit and all this crap, it was the ideal setup. Can use plugins to stream torrents... plex made an app for it so I can browse my plex library nicely with it, and if all that fails and my internet goes out, Kodi will jsut read my digital media and play it just fine.

    I'm really concerned about today's requirements to tie everything to the internet. IoT is a crock of shit and I wish more people valued being off the grid a little more than we are these days.

  10. Let's be realistic by OYAHHH · · Score: 1

    Roku only wants to know what you watch away from it's box to know what advertisements to send to you.

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  11. What an "interesting" development by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

    Roku-Enabled TVs Will Soon 'Listen'

    Not sure what the scare quotes are for... that is pretty much exactly what it's doing.

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    1. Re: What an "interesting" development by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Machines can'tâ listen, duh.

  12. What I watch? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It sounds this could work better for finding porn than even Bing or Google.

  13. Device ownership by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    It pisses me off that I paid for this device and then it spies on me without my permission so the manufacturer can make more money. What's missing from a lot of the modern world is a concept of device ownership. I paid for my cell phone/laptop/etc. and I damned well want to control what it does and does not do. And I want it working for me, not some advertiser.

    The tragic thing is: I NEVER NEVER NEVER buy the shit that behavioral ads think I want. It's all a waste of time and effort for them.

    1. Re:Device ownership by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You apparently didn't even read the f'ing summary. The listening feature is opt-in only and can be opted-out of at any time.

    2. Re:Device ownership by EmeraldBot · · Score: 1

      It pisses me off when people don't even bother to read the summary. What's missing from a lot of the modern world is a concept of understanding before you shout in caps, because it's stated quite clearly that it's entirely opt-in.

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    3. Re:Device ownership by Some_Llama · · Score: 1

      fyi opt-in = needs your permission.

    4. Re:Device ownership by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can select or deselect an option all you want, but only the programmers know if the code is even checking your selection before gathering up any data and sending it back.

      Sure someone will probably check to see if the op-out option is being obeyed. At least, in the weeks after this starts up.

      Will they still be checking a year from now, after Roku quietly updates their software to ignore whatever the user selected and do whatever they please?

  14. Sell your TV. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Enough of this shit.

  15. Are they going to require a CC to activate your TV by future+assassin · · Score: 1

    Like Roku units?

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  16. Re:Are they going to require a CC to activate your by Chrontius · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Append "/nocc" to the Roku activation link. It'll activate without a credit card. Normally you have to call support for that...

    CAPTTCHA: Keyhole

  17. Re:Are they going to require a CC to activate your by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

    I use Paypal and then after I pass that, I deactivate the Paypal authorization. Once deactivated, that link cannot be used to charge your account anymore. The only way to reactivate it is create a new link which requires logging into your paypal account again.

  18. Re:Are they going to require a CC to activate your by PingSpike · · Score: 1

    I used a prepaid VISA rebate card that had 5 cents left on it to activate mine. I agree its irritating though.

  19. Where should I get my brain mush from by jimbolauski · · Score: 1

    Amazon stores everything I say to alexa
    Roku now records my viewing habits
    All the ISPs record my browsing history and soon will sell it
    Satellite with a disconnected set top box looks like my only option to watch awful television with no fear of being judged.

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  20. Roku is being careful about ensuring consumer by hughbar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    To quote but Roku is being careful about ensuring consumer privacy. I love it when those little pigs fly with such elegance.

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    1. Re:Roku is being careful about ensuring consumer by Some_Llama · · Score: 1

      nice way to change the actual quote:

      "but Roku is being careful about ensuring consumer privacy: Users will be required to enable the feature via an opt-in prompt."

      that's a : not a . makes a big difference when what you are complaining about is actually opt-in by default.

  21. Opt-in by tepples · · Score: 1

    Roku is being careful about ensuring consumer privacy: Users will be required to enable the feature via an opt-in prompt.

    Seriously, is nobody else concerned about the privacy implications with always on microphones connected to the internet?

    The summary states that the feature is opt-in. Are you concerned about a software defect causing the feature to turn on by itself? Or are you concerned about "required to enable" meaning "this device will cease to function until enabled"?

  22. This industry is trying hard to flip me by Sloppy · · Score: 1

    So.. in the past I have advocated in favor of "smart TVs" because even if you don't use the features, they're basically "free" (as in beer). Some processing power is already going to be there anyway, and it's not like the chips are expensive. The price of Raspberry Pi should give you a good idea of the most it could possibly cost, and even that is a pretty pessimistic estimate.

    But that position was based on the assumption that "utterly and completely worthless to me" was the lower bound of what the user would get out of it.

    If the software is going to be hostile, such that the value of a smart TV over a dumb TV might actually be negative, then I have to retract my thumbs-up.

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  23. Why does Roku even still exist? by hackel · · Score: 1

    Roku should either be dead, or adopting Android TV. It's obnoxious to have yet another incompatible, proprietary platform out there. Just like Nokia finally came into the Android fold, so should Roku. Their software leaves much to be desired.

    1. Re:Why does Roku even still exist? by Some_Llama · · Score: 1

      Roku was the first platform, and is currently the biggest. so maybe you meant andriod should be adopting Roku?

    2. Re:Why does Roku even still exist? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Roku should either be dead, or adopting Android TV. It's obnoxious to have yet another incompatible, proprietary platform out there. Just like Nokia finally came into the Android fold, so should Roku. Their software leaves much to be desired.

      Huh. Sorry to hear it sucks to be you.

      My Roku is small, low power, with a simple interface, and it "just works" for all tasks I want it to do.

    3. Re: Why does Roku even still exist? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're delusional. Do you work for Roku?

  24. Re:Are they going to require a CC to activate your by future+assassin · · Score: 1

    I didn't buy the device for the fact I had to register it, luckily I read that on the reviews before I bought it. WTF is that? How come they don't say that at purchase time, oh yah their sales would tank as most people would say WTF?

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