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Children As Young As 13 Attending 'Smartphone Rehab' As Concerns Grow Over Screen Time (independent.co.uk)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Independent: Children refusing to put down their phones is a common flashpoint in many homes, with a third of British children aged 12 to 15 admitting they do not have a good balance between screen time and other activities. But in the U.S., the problem has become so severe for some families that children as young as 13 are being treated for digital technology addiction. One "smartphone rehab" center near Seattle has started offering residential "intensive recovery programs" for teenagers who have trouble controlling their use of electronic devices. The Restart Life Center says parents have been asking it to offer courses of treatment to their children for more than eight years. Hilarie Cash, the Center's founder, told Sky News smartphones, tablets and other mobile devices can be so stimulating and entertaining that they "override all those natural instincts that children actually have for movement and exploration and social interaction."

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  1. Sounds like their parents aren't parents, by Blinkin1200 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sounds like their parents aren't parents, they are just the tallest people in the room.

    1. Re:Sounds like their parents aren't parents, by sound+vision · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They are probably on their phones too.

    2. Re:Sounds like their parents aren't parents, by Imrik · · Score: 2

      If the kids are controlling their use at home, they aren't as addicted as the ones the article is talking about. If they aren't controlling their use at home, some parental supervision is warranted.

    3. Re:Sounds like their parents aren't parents, by Joce640k · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I wonder how much "smartphone rehab" costs?

      (as opposed, to, I dunno, just smashing/shooting the phone in front of them if the first couple of talks/slaps don't work)

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    4. Re:Sounds like their parents aren't parents, by geekmux · · Score: 2

      I wonder how much "smartphone rehab" costs?

      (as opposed, to, I dunno, just smashing/shooting the phone in front of them if the first couple of talks/slaps don't work)

      I wonder how much risk is involved with simply ripping the heroin needle out of the addicts arm (as opposed, to, I dunno, proper rehabilitation...)

      Addiction is powerful no matter what created it. So much so that humans have killed other humans in order to get a fix.

    5. Re:Sounds like their parents aren't parents, by sheramil · · Score: 3, Insightful

      consider the difference between addiction and habituation. being addicted to morphine is different to being too lazy to find any other avenues of entertainment or socializing than snapchat or twitter.

    6. Re:Sounds like their parents aren't parents, by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If the kids are controlling their use at home, they aren't as addicted as the ones the article is talking about. If they aren't controlling their use at home, some parental supervision is warranted.

      Yeah as soon as Daddy's off Facebook, and Mom is done playing Candy Crush.

      The smartphone is the perfect little device for today's families. It keeps the kids quiet, and many people have been so inculcated with safety culture that the parents are happy to keep the children inside the house, playing on their phone, instead of going out in the world, where the news cycle has everyone convinced us that as soon as the child steps outside, they will be molested, then kidnapped, then sold into sex traffic slavery, get hooked on meth, and finally be shot in a drive by. So the child may be a hundred pounds overweight, and never grow up to be an adult, but hey - they are safe.

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    7. Re:Sounds like their parents aren't parents, by dontbgay · · Score: 2

      But we're not talking in such simple, pedestrian terms. Addiction can be psychological, physiological, or both. What we're discussing here is a psychological addiction which is manifested in poor impulse control. As such, a parent could remove the device without being an asshole ammosexual while still reaching the intended result. Worked for my 4 year old and my 13 year old. Now screen time is moderated and all device cameras are disabled.

      BTW, people killing over poor impulse control (taking a cell phone away) should not be given mental diability status. Their poor behavior is just a product of their parents doing a shitty job.

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    8. Re:Sounds like their parents aren't parents, by ravrazor · · Score: 2

      In the words of Homer Simpson: “Kids are the best; you can teach them to hate the things you hate. And they practically raise themselves, what with the internet and all.”

    9. Re:Sounds like their parents aren't parents, by StikyPad · · Score: 2

      Addiction is mostly about getting that dopamine hit, and anything that can trigger it can become addictive. In most of life, that hit is moderated by something -- eating has fullness, playing and exploring have physical fatigue, and repeating the same thing over and over (even sex) becomes boring after a while. Addiction can happen when there's little or no moderating factors. Addictive substances continue to provide a hit no matter what (although it may take increasing quantities to achieve the same result). Eating has a physical limit, although some people push that limit as far as they can. So-called adrenaline junkies (really dopamine) take larger and larger risks, sometimes with fatal consequences.

      Rehab is all about finding different ways to find enjoyment, which really boils down to less self-destructive dopamine hits. Bonding with others in healthy ways, engaging in physical activities, creative projects, and then cementing those behavioral changes with first external and then internal reinforcement. Addiction isn't a flaw of character, it's an inherent vulnerability in our dopamine-motivated existence.

  2. It gets worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If they think it's bad at 12-15, just wait until that endless stream of messages and emails is coming from management outside of normal work hours, and they'll be looking for another job if they don't answer it.

    There's some very vested interest in keeping us hooked on these things.

    1. Re:It gets worse by lucm · · Score: 5, Informative

      There's some very vested interest in keeping us hooked on these things.

      There's also some opposition to that, like in France where they banned work email after 6pm.

      http://www.bbc.com/news/magazi...

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    2. Re:It gets worse by TWX · · Score: 2

      Or they just realized that you are a poor candidate and aren't bothering to respond to you.

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  3. Re:I understand. by TWX · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I had problems with BBSing and later with Warcraft II.

    When I was grounded from the family 486 I would dig out the Compaq Portable that I had in my bedroom, and use the 2400 baud modem to dial out to BBSes and to the public library so that I could get on Usenet, usually after everyone else went to bed. My parents knew I had the computer but didn't know that the old four prong telephone jack in my bedroom was actually live. Took a couple of years to get caught; I'd gotten careless and started using it earlier and earlier in the evening.

    It's funny really. I used that 8088-clone with 128K RAM for essentially the same function as I use modern equipment for, which is reading and posting on other computer systems. We really haven't come as far as people would like to pretend.

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  4. I can't get behind this concept. by Hylandr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This behavior really hasn't changed since I was a child. My Dad bitched about how much TV I watched, or how much time I spent outside, or this thing or the other thing that was my passion at the time. Too much sports ( Expensive ) Not enough sports ( anti-social ) This tired old argument and the argument for drugging children into submission boils down to to the need for a false sense of control when parents feel out of control of their own lives or when money is tight.

    They need rehab from the Ritalin, Xanax and other psychotropic medication ( Drugs ). As a parent if I think the child has had too much 'device time' I will take it away. If they want it back they have to have their chores done. It works pretty well.

    Additionally, don't fight the desire your child has, it may be the passion that fuels his income when they are adults. Ever have that conversation with your child "What do you want to do when you grow up?" They are showing you. If you tell them that's not viable because all you see is the money you spend on it, you fail to see the money that they could be making from it. Instead as a society their desires are beaten from them and can only answer when asked what they plan on doing with their lives: "I don't know" ( Because I was told the thing I love is worthless because it cost you money )

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    1. Re:I can't get behind this concept. by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This behavior really hasn't changed since I was a child.

      This isn't some generalisation of parents bitching about their kids. It's an actual problem. There are people so incredibly addicted to certain things (smartphone included) that they start displaying withdrawal symptoms when separated.

      If your child uses their phone a lot, it's not a problem. If your child starts getting incredibly aggressive or freaking out at the thought of not having it that's a different story. If you go out and the phone gets left at home for the day and your child starts crying, throwing a tantrum, demanding everyone goes home, is agitated or agressive because they can't {insert phone thing like facebook here}, then you have a real problem.

      As a parent if you can remove your phone from your child as a form of mediation, then this isn't for you and your child doesn't need treatment for addiction.

    2. Re:I can't get behind this concept. by Hylandr · · Score: 2

      your child starts crying, throwing a tantrum, demanding everyone goes home, is agitated or aggressive

      Quelling this behavior is parenting 101. This is never allowed to fly from day one from any of my children. I have 8, and have been a parent for 24 years with the same wife. I think I am qualified when I call bullshit.

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    3. Re:I can't get behind this concept. by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In the Triassic, when I grew up, there was exactly the same pearl-clutching about television. It was addictive, it kept the kids indoors, and all they could do was stare at it passively and in isolation. The only thing missing was describing the situation in the terminology of the drug rehabs that so many of today's parents have gone through.

      Because today's devices are at least interactive, tech-aware parents can show their kids the full potential of their devices: online interaction with their school friends, GPS for hiking, helping Mom navigate by car, Yelp for road trips, Pocket Universe to identify what they see in the night sky, step counters to quantify their physical activity, games that build various skills, and all the different search options that are available for finding out anything they want.

  5. Root cause; Social media narcissism. by geekmux · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Today it seems that everyone must rush to create an online identity in order to create a presence in the social media universe. Parents are often to blame for initiating this, finding it "cute" that their 4-year old has their own Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram accounts (yes, I'm talking to you too, Hollywood). Naturally, child social media stars don't merely shut their look-at-me channels down when they get to the ripe old age of 10 and get their own smartphone, which comes with the added bonus of also being able to surf hardcore porn. (Given the lack of concern regarding internet filtering, this apparently means porn is no longer damaging, illegal, or harmful to minors.)

    Chances are we're not solving for some odd addiction to artificial light or "screen time" here. When looking at the real reason behind smartphone addiction, I'm willing to bet a lot of it is tied to an addiction to social media, and the narcissism it creates. Tie the YOLO mentality to the FOMO concept, and it creates that constant need to be attached, online, and updating all the fucking time.

    The true addiction to cure for many, is an addiction to narcissism. The kind that social media has created. Perhaps it's time to re-think the religion of social media, and realize just how damaging it can be.

  6. Re:Screen time is not the problem by its self by dk20 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As a parent of three kids, I tend to agree with most of what you wrote.. but Smartphones are slighly different then say nintendo DS's of the past.

    How many times has some mindless zombie kid almost walked into you as they are walking and using their phone at the same time, clueless of their surroundings? i dont recall kids walking and playing their DS's.

  7. Some of it's real, some made up by ErichTheRed · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just like every new technology changes culture, the smartphone era has its positive and negative changes in how people behave. We went from computers being nerd toys and business machines, to absolutely everyone having a computer in their pockets 24 hours a day, and it's only been about 9 or 10 years. Those of us working from the higher side of the tech spectrum have had to deal with apps that are dumbed down far enough that a non-computer user can mash the screen and use them, and of course we have kids using them as the new TV. I know my kids are heavily into YouTube, etc. The positives in my mind are this -- it's super-easy to find information when you need it now, and even though 99.99999% of the communication is junk, it does provide limited opportunities to connect with others. Another negative is that people are expecting insanely complex business applications to act exactly like their consumer phone apps, making life in IT extra-fun.

    As for "smartphone addiction" I have seen tantrums, etc. but I don't know about withdrawal symptoms. My kids love watching YouTube videos and playing games, but they know that when it's time to shut it of, it's time, and complaints get the phone put away for a while. I'm sure there are parents who don't care and park their kids in front of phones whenever they're not doing something. I've felt guilty lately because we're in the middle of moving and renovating a house, eating almost all our non-working lives -- and yes, I've been relying on it more as a tool so I can get some of the work done. (The kids are 3 and 6, their version of "helping" doesn't help at this stage.) But, I would hope most parents are remembering back to their days of being in front of the TV, or the Atari/Intellivision//NES/PlayStation. My poison was Intellivision and the VIC-20 back in the day -- I showed my older son some games in an emulator and he was...not impressed. :-) My mom and dad would just take it away when I'd had enough and make me go outside or do something non-tech related. I think most phone usage can be controlled in this way -- you're the parent, and you're paying the phone bills. Even if it's the kid's phone, it's still "yours" and they should remember that.

    Just like everything, there has to be a balance. I'm not sure how much I like the narcissistic social media crap, but we're not at that stage yet. They don't get Facebook for quite a while. I'm sure YOLO/FOMO have something to so with why people are reporting addiction symptoms though. I've seen adults who can't wait on a train platform for 10 minutes without instinctively picking up their phones. Actually, try 10 seconds -- nobody talks anymore, or stares out into space daydreaming, or god forbid has a conversation with a stranger.