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Debian Developer Imprisoned In Russia Over Alleged Role In Riots (itwire.com)

An anonymous reader writes: "Dmitry Bogatov, Debian developer and Tor node admin, is still being held in a Moscow jail," tweeted the EFF Saturday. IT Wire reports that the 25-year-old math teacher was arrested earlier this month "on suspicion of organizing riots," and is expected to be held in custody until June 8. "The panel investigating the protests claims Bogatov posted several incitory messages on the sysadmin.ru forum; for example, one claim said he was asking people to bring 'bottles, fabric, gasoline, turpentine, foam plastic' to Red Square, according to a post at Hacker News. The messages were sent in the name of one Airat Bashirov and happened to be transmitted through the Tor node that Bogatov was running. The Hacker News post said Bogatov's lawyer had produced surveillance video footage to show that he was elsewhere at the time when the messages were posted.
"After Dmitry's arrest," reports the Free Bogatov site, "Airat Bashirov continue to post messages. News outlets 'Open Russia' and 'Mediazona' even got a chance to speak with him."

Earlier this month the Debian GNU/Linux project also posted a message of support, noting Dmitry maintains several packages for command line and system tools, and saying their group "honours his good work and strong dedication to Debian and Free Software... we hope he is back as soon as possible to his endeavours... In the meantime, the Debian Project has taken measures to secure its systems by removing Dmitry's keys in the case that they are compromised."

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  1. Polonium Putin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Meanwhile the man they're protesting about, Putin, rigs elections, poisons people with polonium, shoots opposition leaders, throws journalists off buildings....

  2. Re:it's the Linux legal problem by Lordpidey · · Score: 2

    Yeah, no. You only have to make the source code available if you make the binaries available. Further, things produced by a GPL program aren't necessarily GPLed.

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  3. This is about control by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is not about him or what he may or may not have done. This is about scaring others so that they think twice before hosting a tor node or any other kind of communication outside government control.

  4. Two mutually orthoganal comments by Nutria · · Score: 2

    1) Yay for pervasive CCTV!
    2) A computer nerd that can't figure out how to automate a web post isn't a true computer nerd.

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  5. Re:it's the Linux legal problem by grumpy_old_grandpa · · Score: 2

    This is the right answer. However, the "legal problem" for FOSS he talks about still persists (even it it's probably a made-up story). Because of this misunderstanding, Linux, FOSS has lost mind-share and goodwill. He and his team could have been proponents of free software, but instead they're now disappointed and muttering about some GPL license clause they don't understand the first thing about.

    The solution is better information and education. However, FOSS has a long way to go here. Even within the community, there's ludicrous claims as to what the various licenses means, and what developers and users are entitled to. Richard Stallman's "Free Software, Free Society" is probably some of the better layman's texts on the topic. In addition to actually reading the license in question itself - they are usually no more than 10 pages of rather clear language.

    Various FOSS components and systems have reached tremendous market share over the last 15 years. However, when it comes to this "legal problem", we're still in the early 90s as far as developer understanding and opinion goes.

  6. Incredible by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 3, Funny

    I knew the war over Debian switching to Systemd was intense but I had no idea it had gone this far! ;)

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  7. From an *exit* node? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "but when HE posts messages"???

    Why would he post messages from the exit node he runs, that's dumb it makes no sense. It's to use TOR is a way that bypasses TOR. (!)

    Likewise the authorities know its not him, its the TOR exit node. So the arrest is clearly timed.

    There's anti Putin protests in St Petersburg, lots of people are being arrested, they want Putin to step down and stop rigging elections. Opponents are being killed, poisoned, the press is suppressed. This is clearly related to the insecurity Putin feels at the moment.

  8. Re:Good since he supports systemd... by Xtifr · · Score: 4, Informative

    Are you using Fedora or something? Debian configured systemd to leave /var/log/messages working just the way it always has.

  9. Re:Good since he supports systemd... by gweihir · · Score: 2

    You can still get rid of systemd in Debian, but it seems to be getting harder to do so and you lose more and more core functionality. Now it seems you lose Python3 apt integration.

    It seems to me that "choice" has left Debian a while ago, and the authoritarians in control are hard at work to remove what is left of it.

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  10. Re: Good since he supports systemd... by gweihir · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There is a difference between things that are better and things that are advertised as "better" using massive propaganda. I just had to remove the systemd-fail from a laptop to get a serial adapter working again. This thing has no advantages in most situations but compromises stability, usability, simplicity and security. Really a shining example of how not to do it.

    What astonishes me though is that two morons with known bad personalities and a bad track-record with their software can compromise most of the Linux community. I would have expected it to be more resilient, but apparently not.

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  11. Re:Good since he supports systemd... by jellomizer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wow such lack of love for humanity. Here we have a guy imprisdoned for trying to make the world better and speaking out on what he thought was an injustice. Who probably very scared and currently powerless.
    As you from your comfortable location applauding this because he happened to make a technical decision to use a different software set with different features tradeoffs which you have the option to not use at all or just spend a little time to learn better and perhaps change the default configuration.
    What's next? Hanging the engineers who decided to take the headphone jack from the iPhone. Or the person who made the final decision to make their distribution start Linux in xwindows by default?
     

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  12. Re: Good since he supports systemd... by CronoCloud · · Score: 4, Informative

    It doesn't actually "drop" them, it just doesn't send them to the syslogs by default. You're supposed to use journalctl to read them! The logging behavior of systemd is a configuration option

    All systemd logging can be forwarded to syslog in plain text format, standard feature enabled by a single edit in: /etc/systemd/journald.conf

    It can also be enabled on a per boot basis with a simple addition to the kernel boot parameters


        ForwardToSyslog=, ForwardToKMsg=, ForwardToConsole=, ForwardToWall=
                                                Control whether log messages received by the journal daemon shall
                                                be forwarded to a traditional syslog daemon, to the kernel log
                                                buffer (kmsg), to the system console, or sent as wall messages to
                                                all logged-in users. These options take boolean arguments. If
                                                forwarding to syslog is enabled but nothing reads messages from the
                                                socket, forwarding to syslog has no effect. By default, only
                                                forwarding to wall is enabled. These settings may be overridden at
                                                boot time with the kernel command line options
                                                "systemd.journald.forward_to_syslog=",
                                                "systemd.journald.forward_to_kmsg=",
                                                "systemd.journald.forward_to_console=", and
                                                "systemd.journald.forward_to_wall=". When forwarding to the
                                                console, the TTY to log to can be changed with TTYPath=, described
                                                below.

  13. Re:Good by PPH · · Score: 2

    Yeah. My heart goes out to those poor violent criminals.

    Bloods vs Crips animosity is nothing compared to init vs systemd.

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