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India Aims To Make Every Car Electric By 2030 In Bid To Tackle Pollution (independent.co.uk)

India's energy minister has unveiled plans for every car sold in the country to be powered by electricity by the year 2030. "The move is intended to lower the cost of importing fuel and lower costs for running vehicles," reports The Independent. From the report: âoeWe are going to introduce electric vehicles in a very big way," coal and mines minister Piyush Goyal said at the Confederation of Indian Industry Annual Session 2017 in New Delhi. "We are going to make electric vehicles self-sufficient... The idea is that by 2030, not a single petrol or diesel car should be sold in the country." Mr Goyal said the electric car industry would need between two and three years of government assistance, but added that he expected the production of the vehicles to be "driven by demand and not subsidy" after that. "The cost of electric vehicles will start to pay for itself for consumers," he said according to the International Business Times. "We would love to see the electric vehicle industry run on its own," he added. An investigation by Greenpeace this year found that as many as 2.3 million deaths occur every year due to air pollution in the country. The report, entitled "Airpocalypse," claimed air pollution had become a "public health and economic crisis" for Indians. It said the number of deaths caused by air pollution was only "a fraction less" than the number of deaths from tobacco use, adding that 3 percent of the country's Gross Domestic Product (GDP) was lost to the levels of toxic smog.

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  1. Re:Power hungry by mspohr · · Score: 3, Informative

    India just opened the largest solar plant in the world and it only took 8 months to build. Much faster to install solar than anything else. (Coal plants take years and nuclear takes forever)
    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/...

    India expects to install 10 GW of solar this year:
    https://cleantechnica.com/2017...

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  2. Range is not the concern there, cost is. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Informative
    Capital is very expensive there. Most people do not drive very long distances in cars like they do in USA or Europe. For long distance travel the trains are very inexpensive and good. A little grimy but good value for money. So the typical 150km per charge technology is good enough for most Indians.

    The main issue is cost. As long as battery car costs more than gas car, it will be difficult to persuade them to buy electric. Second major issue access to charging outlets. Most people park on the street or in apartment car parking spaces. So unless price comes down a lot electric cars will not gain traction there. But, if the imminent inevitable battery technology break through comes through, then they will switch to electric in a hurry. They will find ways to have metered outlets in car parking spaces and even the streets. Third issue is the frequent power cuts and brown outs.

    In fact Tesla's wall battery for residential uses will be more attractive to them. Almost all the homes have a couple of truck lead-acid batteries fully charged to run the fridge, a couple of lights, and the TV during the powercuts. Now a days I see ads for "inverter air conditioners". Air conditioners designed to run on AC power generated by the inverter from a 12 v battery. The wave form is a crudely chopped square wave, and it is brutal on the motors. But these aircon motors are designed to handle it.

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    1. Re:Range is not the concern there, cost is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      >Now a days I see ads for "inverter air conditioners". Air conditioners designed to run on AC power generated by the inverter from a 12 v battery. The wave form is a crudely chopped square wave, and it is brutal on the motors. But these aircon motors are designed to handle it.

      I think you have this wrong. Inverter air conditioners use an internal inverter to generate a PWM to power the compressor. The compressor can thus run at whatever speed makes the most sense.

      I know it seems counter-intuitive at first, but electric air conditioners are most efficient when they don't turn off. The trouble is, then you move an unnecessary amount of heat out of the home (And thus the inefficiency happens: Start/stop cycles). The inverter technology solves this by being able to run the compressor at various speeds and thus adjusting the level of continuous "cooling"---variable BTU heat extraction. Because they don't have to turn off (unless you want very, very little cooling) they save a bunch of money avoiding the start/stop cycles.

      Because the compressor is driven by an inverter-based PWM, dirty power is cleaned up before it reaches the compressor, extending its life. Technically, square waves would be the most efficient power source for one of these A/C units, but I don't know enough of the PWMs design to say if it is advisable or not.

      Anyways, the fact they clean up dirty power is just a side effect of the real reason they exist, which is a combination of keeping temperature at a constant level (because they don't have to cycle on/off) and improving efficiency (because those cycles are wasteful).

  3. Re:What will happen to all those spent batteries? by mspohr · · Score: 4, Informative

    The current Li-ion batteries installed in cars such as the Tesla should last at least 10 years. Of course, they haven't been in the cars 10 years yet but some cars have traveled over 200,000 miles with less than 10% degradation.

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  4. Re:Way to go, India! by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Informative

    most of that electricity that is there comes from coal,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_in_India#Installed_capacity

    India is planning to invest $100B in solar between now and 2022. Most installed capacity is coal, but a much smaller fraction of new capacity is coal.

    the significant bump in demand will mean more coal, so how is this helping air pollution again?

    This point has been beaten to death, but apparently it needs to be repeated yet again: Even when using coal, electric cars produce less CO2 than ICEs. They also produce less other pollution, since a single coal plant scrubber is far more cost effective than thousands of individual catalytic converters on ICE vehicles. Also, the generation can occur outside of cities where far fewer people breathe it.