Leaked Document Reveals UK Plans For Wider Internet Surveillance (zdnet.com)

The UK government is planning to push greater surveillance powers that would force internet providers to monitor communications in near-realtime and install backdoor equipment to break encryption, according to a leaked document. From a report on ZDNet: A draft of the proposed new surveillance powers, leaked on Thursday, is part of a "targeted consultation" into the Investigatory Powers Act, brought into law last year, which critics called the "most extreme surveillance law ever passed in a democracy." Provisions in proposals show that the government is asking for powers to compel internet providers to turn over the realtime communications of a person "in an intelligible form," including encrypted content, within one working day. To that end, internet providers will be forced to introduce a backdoor point on their networks to allow intelligence agencies to read anyone's communications.

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Its ok, we're in the EU

[Anonymous Coward]

That's OK. Being part of the EU means us Brits can take it to the European courts and even if that doesnt work we can up sticks and move to another EU country if we don't like how our government is behaving.
Hang on, someone's whispering something in my ear......
This just in, we're f*cked.

Re:Its ok, we're in the EU

[number6x]

Including backdoors is the government helping criminals ripp-off citizens. Encryption, block chain and other security measures will be needed more and more if we want to continue e-commerce in the future. Any law that forces backdoors to be included in code is a law that is creating an opportunity for hackers to bypass security and exploit the backdoor.

These laws should always be grouped under the idea: 'Your government helping criminals steal your money and ruin your credit'. Some of these criminal groups also fund terrorism, so these can also be grouped under the idea: 'Your government helping fund terrorism'.

These are exactly the kind of laws politicians should be supporting if they want to harm citizens, promote crime and financially support terrorist organizations. In the long run, the more we can do to strengthen encryption the more we will protect people from harm.

Democracy? Really?

[JudgeFurious]

I'm thinking that if you are making things like this legal then you're well on your way to losing the right to call yourselves a Democracy.

Re:Democracy? Really?

[whoever57]

Actually, since the devolution of powers to the Scottish Parliament, the situation is reversed.

Why do Scottish MPs in Westminster vote on matters that only affect England?

Even before Devolution, English MPs did not (by custom) vote on matters that affect only Scotland.

Google the "West Lothian question"

Re:Democracy? Really?

[myowntrueself]

Actually, since the devolution of powers to the Scottish Parliament, the situation is reversed.

Why do Scottish MPs in Westminster vote on matters that only affect England?

Even before Devolution, English MPs did not (by custom) vote on matters that affect only Scotland.

Google the "West Lothian question"

I thoroughly support independence for England. And, no, thats not because I'm pro-English.

Brexit was a farce, so far as everyone but England was concerned. There was never any point in the Scots, Irish or Welsh even going out to vote. The English cynically use democracy (by popular vote, not talking about the activities of MP's) to control the entire nation. "Oh look, the *majority* of people in the UNITED kingdom voted for this so thats what we'll do then". Fuck that. At least places like Canada, if theres going to be a major constitutional change, all the provinces had better be in agreement.

And hilarity ensues

[al0ha]

This is hilarious and just goes to show how ignorant these lawmakers really are regarding technology. Pass whatever secret surveillance laws you want, you won't be breaking RSA-4096 anytime soon, and when you can, cryptographers will have devised something better. What a utter and ridiculous law. Tools of the oligarchs...

Re:And hilarity ensues

[Anonymous Coward]

I think that's dangerously overconfident. By passing laws they can in fact make tech companies add backdoors and vulnerabilities. That will make the vast majority of the population, outside a tiny number of people who take extreme and possibly now illegal measures, even more subject to mass surveillance. It also grants permission for any level of governmental snooping, and can criminalize people found in possession of "circumvention technologies". Possession of GPG can be criminalized with the stroke of a pen, if it interferes with mass surveillance.

Furthermore it normalizes the entire idea that people should be allowed no privacy. A whole generation grows up with that as "normal". Do not underestimate the capacity of human beings to normalize reprehensible things.

It's foolish to think that just because there exists some encryption technology where the math can't be broken, that everything is OK. Everything is not OK.

US citizen here, not a Brit, but I am under no illusions. On this side of the pond we have just as many in our government who look at Orwell's warning as a thing to aspire to, rather than to avoid. If UK citizens allow this to stand, it's only a matter of time before it comes here too. Our countries have a long and rich tradition of adopting each other's worst and most harmful ideas. (We had American knockoffs of the Spice Girls, for instance).

Cat and Mouse

[fustakrakich]

Tally ho!

The ISP is the weak link. We need a solution to render them obsolete.

One word missing

[Teun]

which critics called the "most extreme surveillance law ever passed in a once democracy."

It is NOT a "democracy"

[Anonymous Coward]

"most extreme surveillance law ever passed in a democracy."

Why do people keep referring to modern governments as "democracy"??? Have YOU voted on the issues? NO! Democracy is where We The People actually VOTE on issues.

Current modern governments are representative, and the problem is: We The People are NOT being represented. The best fix is to FIRE the bastards. We need much more frequent elections: I propose at least twice a year.

And we need either a People's Lobby, or shut down ALL lobbying.

Re:It is NOT a "democracy"

[Farmer Tim]

...or just arranging the candidates in a suitable odor of preference.

An apt typo, given how much modern politics in general stinks.

The psychology of Privacy

[geekmux]

Why is it that social media addicts post everything you never wanted to know about their lives online for all to see, and yet if you were to demand to see their internet history, they would run around and scream like a rabid monkey, totally offended over such an invasion of privacy.

Either give enough of a shit about your privacy to try and stop the destruction of it, or don't give a shit about any of it. Fucking pick one already.

Eric Arthur Blair (aka George Orwell)

[Kernel Kurtz]

...was British.

Coincidence? I think not!

He just got the date slightly wrong.